Fastest NA ls1??

[ls1lunatic]

Hi Guys

Just been looking around and can't seem to find a list of naturally aspirated ls1 times and was wondering if anyone knows what are the quickest times in Australia. A mate asked me to find out as his ute ran 9.5 at 140 normally aspirated with no nitrous

[Lambda Kebab]

I know one ute that has run 10.7 and I was told it was the worlds fastest.

Your mate obviously has the fastest car in australia.

[SS Enforcer]

What were the specs engine size etc etc.

Do you have a slip.

cheers

[Lambda Kebab]

My above post "may" have been in jest.

If someone is catching Higgins, Im sure we will hear about it from a workshop, not "My mate wants to know if he is the quickest?" :)

[STATIE]

Unless your mates name is Nathan Higgins - I call :bs:

Let me guess - the car is a "cam only"?:lol:

[SOBSE]

He would be close but i think higgins has run in the 9.2's. I dont see why members on here get all funny when blokes ask a question about times etc. Workshops are NOT the only ones building fast car's and there are a shit more workshops then what gets talked about on this forum. Anyway if you ask me there aint that many realy fast N/A cars that have come from to many workshops on here........:hide:

[MADLS1]

your mate could me 0 - 140 in 9.5?? :confused:

or like statie said... your mates name must be Nathan

[STATIE]

He would be close but i think higgins has run in the 9.2's. I dont see why members on here get all funny when blokes ask a question about times etc. Workshops are NOT the only ones building fast car's and there are a shit more workshops then what gets talked about on this forum. Anyway if you ask me there aint that many realy fast N/A cars that have come from to many workshops on here........:hide:


:rofl:

Mainly because everyone has 'a mate' that says his car runs 8's on street tyres but lost the time slip and can't prove it.

In fact I have a mate that says he runs 9's NA in Darwin with just a cam & is the fastest LS1 in the NT.

[SOBSE]

Maybe his mate does have a slip and was simply asking a valid question??

[STATIE]

Maybe his mate does have a slip and was simply asking a valid question??


Well in that case I apologise profusely - the times to beat as far as I know are 10.5 for an NA 346 & 9.1 for an NA stroker.

Both utes - both black & both built/tuned by forum sponsers on here.:D

[WLDLS1]

Well in that case I apologise profusely - the times to beat as far as I know are 10.5 for an NA 346 & 9.1 for an NA stroker.

Both utes - both black & both built/tuned by forum sponsers on here.:D
hey greg. i thought nathans was a 427 as with tims. they are not LS1 thats for sure i think that makes you the man dosent it?
i cold and have know to be wrong.lol
taken from nathans web site.
Australia's first naturally aspirated LS1 to make a 9 second pass, the Higgins Race Developments ute showcases the best of what HRD have to offer. With its 427ci N/A combo, the ute is running a a current best of 9.1 @ 151mph. The ute also set the Australian record for a n/a 346 ci LS1, tearing down the quarter mile in 10.5 seconds @ 131MPH, proving Higgins Race Developments leading performance, no mater what the engine capacity

Taking a slightly different route, Tim Holmyard's VXSS is powered by a Higgins Race Developments built 427 ci, but with the addition of NOS has a current best time of 8.8 @ 161mph.

[SS Enforcer]

I think most of us are aware that there are other workshps running some good times and not just those mentioned here. I would like to add though that if a ls1 runs a notworthy number there is probably someone from this forum there unless it is a private track hire to witness it.

There are forum members at every race meeting in this country and whilst it's possible a record time could slip through unnoticed it is probably quite unlikley.

I am pretty sure there is a shop in the states claiming a low 9 for a NA 346.

cheers

[XR4TED]

hey greg. i thought nathans was a 427 as with tims. they are not LS1 thats for sure i think that makes you the man dosent it?
i cold and have know to be wrong.lol
taken from nathans web site.
Australia's first naturally aspirated LS1 to make a 9 second pass, the Higgins Race Developments ute showcases the best of what HRD have to offer. With its 427ci N/A combo, the ute is running a a current best of 9.1 @ 151mph. The ute also set the Australian record for a n/a 346 ci LS1, tearing down the quarter mile in 10.5 seconds @ 131MPH, proving Higgins Race Developments leading performance, no mater what the engine capacity

Taking a slightly different route, Tim Holmyard's VXSS is powered by a Higgins Race Developments built 427 ci, but with the addition of NOS has a current best time of 8.8 @ 161mph.

I think you will find that it was previously an ls1 stroked 402.

[WLDLS1]

yeah your right it was a 402. so nathan holds it.

[LS1TOY]

Using an ls2 block:lol:
Jake,

[WLDLS1]

Using an ls2 block:lol:
Jake,
hey jake. are you australias fastest bolt on. would have to be close. why did i type that in here. idiot. now all hell will break loose.lol

[LS1TOY]

hey jake. are you australias fastest bolt on. would have to be close. why did i type that in here. idiot. now all hell will break loose.lol

Not yet! :lol: i need to beat 11.07 i think.
Jake,

[WLDLS1]

Not yet! :lol: i need to beat 11.07 i think.
Jake,
kool. at the rate that car is going and that gun tuner looking after you i would say its not far away. good luck mate. catch up soon.

[SOBSE]

hey greg. i thought nathans was a 427 as with tims. they are not LS1 thats for sure i think that makes you the man dosent it?
i cold and have know to be wrong.lol
taken from nathans web site.
Australia's first naturally aspirated LS1 to make a 9 second pass, the Higgins Race Developments ute showcases the best of what HRD have to offer. With its 427ci N/A combo, the ute is running a a current best of 9.1 @ 151mph. The ute also set the Australian record for a n/a 346 ci LS1, tearing down the quarter mile in 10.5 seconds @ 131MPH, proving Higgins Race Developments leading performance, no mater what the engine capacity

Taking a slightly different route, Tim Holmyard's VXSS is powered by a Higgins Race Developments built 427 ci, but with the addition of NOS has a current best time of 8.8 @ 161mph.
:confused:

hey jake. are you australias fastest bolt on. would have to be close. why did i type that in here. idiot. now all hell will break loose.lol
:eek:
:lol:
LS..........

[boyley]

Hes talking about an engine, not necessarily a vehicle.

Wack a worked LS1 in a light weight chassis and you'd have a bullet. I would imagine 346 cubes would be the regulation.

[HYMEY]

Allan Futrals car here. Has done a 9.93sec. I think they are going quicker than that now though. That is a stock stroke 346ci no nitrous and 136mph. In general
the LS1 brigade are still being toasted by RB30s and rotaries, which is a bit of a shame, and while 9 sec is quick, it is still quite slow in drag racing terms. Lot of budget built 9 sec cars out there. The weight is what slows down the commodores.

http://www.futralmotorsports.com/fms_event_346record.asp

[SOBSE]

Allan Futrals car here. Has done a 9.93sec. I think they are going quicker than that now though. That is a stock stroke 346ci no nitrous and 136mph. In general
the LS1 brigade are still being toasted by RB30s and rotaries, which is a bit of a shame, and while 9 sec is quick, it is still quite slow in drag racing terms. Lot of budget built 9 sec cars out there. The weight is what slows down the commodores.

http://www.futralmotorsports.com/fms_event_346record.asp

And the IRS dont help a heap.
Dont know about your comment on 9 sec being slow in drag racing terms?????

[STATIE]

Allan Futrals car here. Has done a 9.93sec. I think they are going quicker than that now though. That is a stock stroke 346ci no nitrous and 136mph. In general
the LS1 brigade are still being toasted by RB30s and rotaries, which is a bit of a shame, and while 9 sec is quick, it is still quite slow in drag racing terms. Lot of budget built 9 sec cars out there. The weight is what slows down the commodores.

http://www.futralmotorsports.com/fms_event_346record.asp

Dont forget that there are cars in Aus that run 133 ish with 346's NA & while they are relatively light compared to a factory commodore are 6-700 lbs heavier than the heavy hitter yank cars - also the yank rear end setups let them run ridiculous 60 footers in the 1.3 range without even trying.



Dont know about your comment on 9 sec being slow in drag racing terms?????

Exactly - put some of our motors into a car that weighs 1000 KG's with tubs & a 4 link and see what times they run.

[SOBSE]

Dont forget that there are cars in Aus that run 133 ish with 346's NA & while they are relatively light compared to a factory commodore are 6-700 lbs heavier than the heavy hitter yank cars - also the yank rear end setups let them run ridiculous 60 footers in the 1.3 range without even trying.



Exactly - put some of our motors into a car that weighs 1000 KG's with tubs & a 4 link and see what times they run.

I have to agree with you there statie. I would love to stick the combo that im doing into a little Lj torrie with a nice set of boots in the arse end. Give those buzz boxes a little touch up!

[HYMEY]

And the IRS dont help a heap.
Dont know about your comment on 9 sec being slow in drag racing terms?????

Maybe I explained myself incorrectly, I am not by any means knocking anyones efforts. 9 sec is very quick for a heavy weight commodore. But just thinking that 10 years back, 9s were virtually impossible to achieve and yet now VL turbo owners change the intake manifold and fit an off the shelf turbo and they run 9s with ease,seams to be the cult drag car in Aus atm. Looking outside the LS1 scene there are many 9 sec budget drag cars with half the hp
of most blown LS1s.

Including many LJ toranas (as previously mentioned) there are a tonne of them running 9s. We have a LJ torana up here running 9.4 with a turbo 202 of all things!

As far as the yanks are concerned, There cars are lighter but they still produce big power, and with never ending budgets always will. But drag racing is not all about power, its about car setup and weight reduction too, At the end of the day(putting all the many LS1 records aside) its who crosses the line first wins.Ls1 classes and records makes competition fun amongst the LS1 brigade(and VL turbo brigade) As much as competition is fierce in the LS1 fraternity, we all have the same thing in common.

[SOBSE]

Maybe I explained myself incorrectly, I am not by any means knocking anyones efforts. 9 sec is very quick for a heavy weight commodore. But just thinking that 10 years back, 9s were virtually impossible to achieve and yet now VL turbo owners change the intake manifold and fit an off the shelf turbo and they run 9s with ease,seams to be the cult drag car in Aus atm. Looking outside the LS1 scene there are many 9 sec budget drag cars with half the hp
of most blown LS1s.

Including many LJ toranas (as previously mentioned) there are a tonne of them running 9s. We have a LJ torana up here running 9.4 with a turbo 202 of all things!

As far as the yanks are concerned, There cars are lighter but they still produce big power, and with never ending budgets always will. But drag racing is not all about power, its about car setup and weight reduction too, At the end of the day(putting all the many LS1 records aside) its who crosses the line first wins.Ls1 classes and records makes competition fun amongst the LS1 brigade(and VL turbo brigade) As much as competition is fierce in the LS1 fraternity, we all have the same thing in common.

Ask a VL driver that runs 9's and quicker how long there engine last??
I think you will find that as time goes on you will also see some so called budget 9's ls1's around to . How old is the lsx engines???

[HYMEY]

More than likely will see more and more 8 and 9 sec LS1s in dedicated drag cars. I think you are right with turbo engines needing more maintenance, but there are a few high km VLs running 9s . And The 2JZ is also an engine worthy of mention in the drag racing scene. There are 7 sec 2Js using factory rods and crank with forged pistons and factory Toyota rings,There is a cressida from Newy that runs 9s with a 2J and it has 100s of passes on the stock bottom end. While I love LS1s they aren't be all end all, but a great everyday street car that cut decent times with streetable manners. While there are those out there that are one eyed, I myself am not and will respect anything that goes hard. One of my favorites is Jason Ghillers XE falcon with a 250 crossflow turboed that runs 9s on LPG. I love ITSMAD the twin turbo LJ torry, thats a weapon, seen it run at WSID and willowbank what a handful.

Getting back on topic, do we have a list of quickest LS1s on the web, including the likes of Higgins car and Dales TT car, also C &V turboed beast.

cheers

Joel

[SOBSE]

More than likely will see more and more 8 and 9 sec LS1s in dedicated drag cars. I think you are right with turbo engines needing more maintenance, but there are a few high km VLs running 9s . And The 2JZ is also an engine worthy of mention in the drag racing scene. There are 7 sec 2Js using factory rods and crank with forged pistons and factory Toyota rings,There is a cressida from Newy that runs 9s with a 2J and it has 100s of passes on the stock bottom end. While I love LS1s they aren't be all end all, but a great everyday street car that cut decent times with streetable manners. While there are those out there that are one eyed, I myself am not and will respect anything that goes hard. One of my favorites is Jason Ghillers XE falcon with a 250 crossflow turboed that runs 9s on LPG. I love ITSMAD the twin turbo LJ torry, thats a weapon, seen it run at WSID and willowbank what a handful.

Getting back on topic, do we have a list of quickest LS1s on the web, including the likes of Higgins car and Dales TT car, also C &V turboed beast.

cheers

Joel
Im not one eyed ls1 thats for sure....only decided to build one a few months ago as i was going to do a sbc torrie but the lsx gear is good shit! and will only get better. I kind of see were you are coming from and i also dont:confused:
There is a line on how far you want to go as far as maintaining your engine and chassis setup.

As far as the US goes and you do spend some time on ls1tech , look at there cars and setups. Check out the sams and sixspeedinc cars as there the quickest all motor LSX in the states

TUFSS3 has run 8.87 with 427ci and 300hp of gas i think. IRS rear and he has mini tubs but could do with more tire i would think.