vz senator?

[ls1dan]

I currently own a vy ss ute. which i am preparing for sale.

I just wanted to know what peoples general impressions were of the vz senator?
Is it worth the the money over a clubsport?

I know the little extras you get in the senator. (ie interior).

What other benifits are there.

I have been doing a little reseach in to them but i know there are certain spec's i don't know.

So if any one can shed some light it would be great. cause it is a bit of a financial adventure.

I am plannig to bring all the mods on my ute over to the vz. plus building a bullet proof A4.

Any help and advice is welcome

Thanks.

DAN

[macca33]

The extras are the opulence and the fact that compared to the Clubby, they are very understated and not too common. Well worth the $$$ I reckon.

Cheers,

Macca

[macca_779]

Agree with Macca on this.. Surprise Surprise. A Senator is well worth the extra over a clubby. Basically mate you will get all the Calais equipment and quite a few HSV only extra's too.

[CSP]

Agree with Macca on this.. Surprise Surprise. A Senator is well worth the extra over a clubby. Basically mate you will get all the Calais equipment and quite a few HSV only extra's too.

I don't know about earlier models, but my Clubby has Calais equipment. I'd guess because it's based on the Calais :D

Like I said though, don't know about earlier models.

[macca_779]

I don't know about earlier models, but my Clubby has Calais equipment. I'd guess because it's based on the Calais :D

Like I said though, don't know about earlier models.

Yeah it was different in the older models mate. You can pick it in the early ones because the VIN had the X for Calais spec in it. Back in VT-VZ I know for a fact that only Senator's rolled into HSV as X spec cars.

For VE its going to be a different story as a Calais is more of a Berlina these days and a Calais V would be the old Calais if you get my drift.

[CSP]

Yeah it was different in the older models mate. You can pick it in the early ones because the VIN had the X for Calais spec in it. Back in VT-VZ I know for a fact that only Senator's rolled into HSV as X spec cars.

For VE its going to be a different story as a Calais is more of a Berlina these days and a Calais V would be the old Calais if you get my drift.

WTF? Calais is still a Calais. There's just a higher spec'd one, the Calais V. There aren't a lot of differences between the two.

[brentonsav]

senators are auto-only so that may or may not be a show stopper for ya mate.
i like the senators though. more understated than a clubby but have plenty of features.

[The Brock]

There was a manual VY II Sen Sig in Perth Auto Trader a couple of weeks ago...

[macca_779]

WTF? Calais is still a Calais. There's just a higher spec'd one, the Calais V. There aren't a lot of differences between the two.

Not really, If that was the case you would think that a VE calais would loose no equipment to that of a VZ. Old Calais' had 8 way seats as an example and now you have to go up to Calais V to get that. Put it this way. Even my 1999 Model Senator has equipment that a new Calais/Clubby doesn't. Things like Auto Level Suspension, dual 8 way seats, electromicronic rear view mirror. Its all stuff that only a Calais in the old days and a Calais V would get now.

[edit]Actually I don't even think Calais' ever got the mirror or the suspension.. But the seats are a good example none the less.

[gto0079]

i say go for it very understated not as look at me as a clubsport good sleeper cars and you get looots of different interior options. Put it this way if i didn't find my gto then thats what i was gunna get. Just remember it your cash your car ure decision

[OPTIMUS]

love the senators... so much i put the rear spoiler on my SS

[iloveholden]

I more of a GTS man but if its between a Senator and a clubby, i think the higher spec senator is the way to go. They can be real sleepers or pimp mobiles haha

[hyper 8]

I went from a vx ss to a vx belina 5.7 wagon and now own a vz senator. This is the best car i have ever owned. For a stocker it shit all over my other cars that had bolt ons to make them go hard and handle the windy stuff. As for the senator only being an auto i quite like this one over the auto in the wagon which had been played with. The only thing is it reavs a bit hi on the open road, im am looking into changing the 4 speed to the 6 speed auto. Have been told it is a straight swap, just need to check out if the computer can been changed to suit. But when i did a trip to melbourne she dropped down to 9 ltr-100 average with a bit of WOT. All in all the next car will now be a new senator just love them.


Dave

[macca_779]

Computer is no problem mate. VZ LS2's run two comps. An E40 for the engine and a T42 for the trans.. You just ditch the T42 for a conversion and remap the E40 to suit.

[HSVQUE]

The only thing I see that is better in a calais V compared to a normal calais are the seats.. flip down screens suck(IMO)..Would prefer headrest screens like the caprice/grange.. you would get aftermarket wheels or option the supersports so the 18's over the 17's are not that great.. you get a badge couple of extra bits of chrome and Umm.. Heated mirrors? oh and front parking sensors.. Standard Calais only has year.

I see the value and luxury of a Senator.. Its worth the Extra over a clubsport for sure.. and im guessing would have better resale.. Clubbys are dime a dozen.. Senators are something abit more special..

Rob

[Vulture]

If you want an auto then there is no contest: Senator all the way.

[badnews]

yeah i wouldnt mind a VZ senator. the VZ senator looks completely different to the VZ clubsport whereas the older ones where just a different kit and a bit of chrome (in essence). in canberra you rarely see VZ senators getting around, i might even go as far to say "they are as rare as rocking horse shit"

[macca33]

.................... the VZ senator looks completely different to the VZ clubsport whereas the older ones where just a different kit and a bit of chrome (in essence).................

Huh??????? Have you actually looked inside, or studied the specs of an 'older' one?

[badnews]

Huh??????? Have you actually looked inside, or studied the specs of an 'older' one?

i meant asthetically, my brother has a series II vy signature so i understand the differences. should have been a bit clearer with my initial post. I actually wanted a senator in the first place but couldnt afford it :(