Wet Wheel Spin

[HSV2BE]

hi guys iv have an issue when the roads are wet. I am persistent to ensure i take off and accelerate at an appropriate and slow rate for the conditions but the wheels almost always spin and i dont like getting stare downs by old mate next to me.

I have checked the tyres the read is good.

BTW i drive a vt automatic.

regards,

Hsv2be

[KPWISHN]

Are you serious? Maybe trade it for a camry. :lol:

[NickS]

Your tyres are shit (having tread doesn't mean they will grip) or your giving it too much ... no other explanation.

My car has over 400kW at the treads and it drives fine in the wet. My wife's car has over 260kW at the wheels and we never have a problem with that one either. There isn't anything magical about loss of traction.

[2 cylinders shy]

excesive rear camber?

[HSV2BE]

^^^ actually when i got it checked at the mechanics a while back he mentioned something about that but said it would be fine for a while yet. i will have it rechecked.

cheers guys.


Actually i have been told the tyres arnt the best brand. The tyres were almost brand new when i bought the car with them on. They are 2 Nexens and 2 BFgoodrich

[VX2VESS]

what are the tyres?

[HSV2BE]

what are the tyres?

^^^^^^

i know some are nexen and some are bf Goodrich with the rears being nexen.

[phantom_ss]

Ive got nexens on my SS and they are fine in the wet, alot better than the nangkangs i had on it before these

[Mozz]

I suggest a combo of cheap tyres and lots of rear camber is the issue.

Better tyres + installation of rear camber kit will help but not eliminate the vehicle characteristics - then it's up to the driver.

[HSV2BE]

Yeah iv got to save some money to buy the camber kit. Anyway at the end of the day probably a stupid topic.

[VX2VESS]

not really stupid topic if your trying not to spin the wheels and they do all the time you have a problem. you can't drive like its dry however.

perhaps also the lsd is not working.

i find at some intersections when wet you can go a slow as possible and they spin, while most other don't. could be oil on the road or something just at those ones.
did it this morning in the usual spot. took off slow expecting it to spin, started to spin a a little, lsd locked and it reduced spin, at the same i backed of a little more and it gripped. No traction control btw...

only the one intersection did this today, the usual one that always does in the wet. it is worse when its not rained for a while, roads have more crap on them, they get better the longer it rains

[zorro]

me smells a heavy right foot

my work car, BF Falcon XT peg legger holds to the road very well in the wet

[Peter B - CV8]

Put some fuel in it - will give you some extra weight over the rear axle.

[DaveHAT]

hi guys iv have an issue when the roads are wet. I am persistent to ensure i take off and accelerate at an appropriate and slow rate for the conditions but the wheels almost always spin and i dont like getting stare downs by old mate next to me.

I have checked the tyres the read is good.

BTW i drive a vt automatic.

regards,

Hsv2be

I've seen this problem before on topgear ... the cure is once you get in the car to head off of a morning ... get someone to seal the doors with 100mp/h tape.

Once sealed ... insert a fire hose through a partially opened window and fill.

Once the water level reaches the bottom of the steering wheel ... your traction problems should be solved and you can head off to work.

That or just try some "better" tyres and control your right foot ... probably less admin that way. :jester:

[Blown 540]

I've seen this problem before on topgear ... the cure is once you get in the car to head off of a morning ... get someone to seal the doors with 100mp/h tape.

Once sealed ... insert a fire hose through a partially opened window and fill.

Once the water level reaches the bottom of the steering wheel ... your traction problems should be solved and you can head off to work.


Thanks dave spat me smoko all over the screen :lmao::lmao::lmao::bravo:

[Souljah]

I have checked the tyres the read is good.
Have you actually gotten undernieth your car and checked the insides of the rear tyres? If it's running a fair bit of rear camber the insides of the tyres will be shagged whilst the outsides will look near new.

[dracer]

tyre factory tyres!!! all i can say lollllllllllll

[Mungrel]

ya either got way too much camber on the rears, or you're just being too heavy on the throttle.

270+rwkw, through a 6speed and twin plate clutch which can be a pain in the dry i might add, and no real issues in the wet unless a hill start is required...
btw my rear tires have plenty of tread but are old and hard...

Throttle control is they key IMO

[clubbie]

Guys this is a serious question although I see the funny side.

I can tell you from experience that any lowered vt v6 or v8 is deadly in the wet good tyres or bad due to the camber setup at the rear. It can also make the car very nervous and tiring at highway speeds on anything but perfect tarmac. The solution is to take out the SSL springs and stick in SL springs. At the same time put in a (four point - I think) rear camber kit.

Stops the rear tyres spinning and the car darting all over the road and increases rear tyre wear from 5,000km to 20,000km. Well worth it and not expensive to do. Parts about $300 install and wheel align approx $200.

Clubbie

[Jbird]

hey man its ur traction control, when i was driving a vt i use to keep it off for well... u get the picture. T/C makes a big difference

[JezzaB]

hey man its ur traction control, when i was driving a vt i use to keep it off for well... u get the picture. T/C makes a big difference

You should be able to drive a car in the wet without wheelspin with throttle control. Ive got 327rwkw in a ute with no traction control and my tires are getting down and i can take off and drive normally in the wet. No crazy wheelspin unless I decide to induce it.

[BLACK 346]

Guys this is a serious question although I see the funny side.

I can tell you from experience that any lowered vt v6 or v8 is deadly in the wet good tyres or bad due to the camber setup at the rear. It can also make the car very nervous and tiring at highway speeds on anything but perfect tarmac. The solution is to take out the SSL springs and stick in SL springs. At the same time put in a (four point - I think) rear camber kit.

Stops the rear tyres spinning and the car darting all over the road and increases rear tyre wear from 5,000km to 20,000km. Well worth it and not expensive to do. Parts about $300 install and wheel align approx $200.

Clubbie

It doesn't stop at VT, goes all the way through to VZ if they are
lowered and not set up correctly.
fwiw, our BF auto work wagon will light the tyres with ease in the wet if you turn the traction
control off.

[Oldmate83]

i dont like getting stare downs by old mate

Hsv2be



well i don't like u spinning your wheels...

[WH Captain]

haha what a topic.. mate i hat a 99VTII ex pursuit with 400 RWKW Gen3 Auto with cut springs droped on its guts with the worst camber in the world rolling on 205 15inch suit rims... and i could still ease on the throttle and not have to spin . . either your car is a doorslammer or your on the noise too much

[SII_Turbo]

So your car breaks traction in the wet without any issues???? and this upsets you?

id be more worried if you couldnt break traction in the wet!

[macca33]

You should be able to drive a car in the wet without wheelspin with throttle control. Ive got 327rwkw in a ute with no traction control and my tires are getting down and i can take off and drive normally in the wet. No crazy wheelspin unless I decide to induce it.

I've only got 295rw and I can accelerate rather briskly without inducing wet-weather tyre slip - it is called throttle control. If I'm really nasty in the missus' Magna (maybe 120fwkw???), I can get the front wheels slipping - through excessive acceleration.

Not rocket science, it all comes down to the driver. :yup:

Cheers,

Macca

[DJC-346]

haha what a topic.. mate i hat a 99VTII ex pursuit with 400 RWKW Gen3 Auto with cut springs droped on its guts with the worst camber in the world rolling on 205 15inch suit rims... and i could still ease on the throttle and not have to spin . . either your car is a doorslammer or your on the noise too much

your my hero...:fewl:

[FG Turbo Ute]

it is possible the car has been bent and the weight is not even on all wheels.

[iamhappy46]

You should be able to drive a car in the wet without wheelspin with throttle control. Ive got 327rwkw in a ute with no traction control and my tires are getting down and i can take off and drive normally in the wet. No crazy wheelspin unless I decide to induce it.

I am in the same boat, throttle control with boost coming on before 2000rpm and it still hooks up in the wet. Considered taking off in 2nd gear?

[Blown 540]

. . either your car is a doorslammer or your on the noise too much


:lmao:Funny thread this one .:rofl:

[LS2_307]

:lmao:Funny thread this one .:rofl:

Agreed:rofl:

is it about his wheel spin issue or how powerfull everyone elses car is....:1peek:

As it has been said, VT's have an issue with inside tyre wear(rear) get a camber kit and drive to the conditions.

Otherwise, just enjoy the fun..

[GCCS]

Ok, you have an issue with wheelspin in the wet. why not apply less throttle and not stab the accelerator? i can drive much more powerful cars and still get traction, even with bald tyres.

Perhaps you need more experience behind the wheel

[TAKEITEZ]

raise it, get a camber kit, get some decent tyres...
you'll be able to use 50% throttle on take off in the wet if you get the geometry and grip factors right...

ditching my SSSL rear springs and Nankang tyres was the best thing i did...
best yet, full throttle launches in the dry with no spin till it chips slightly into 2nd and you're gone...
i could never that with shitty boots, a slammed car, and no camber kit...

[nang3]

^^^ actually when i got it checked at the mechanics a while back he mentioned something about that but said it would be fine for a while yet. i will have it rechecked.

cheers guys.


Actually i have been told the tyres arnt the best brand. The tyres were almost brand new when i bought the car with them on. They are 2 Nexens and 2 BFgoodrich


ive got some nexens on at the moment and have no traction problems unless i want them, which is 90% of the time haha

OP - your just a reckless hoon is all mate!! :bow:

[eldan89]

It doesn't stop at VT, goes all the way through to VZ if they are
lowered and not set up correctly.
fwiw, our BF auto work wagon will light the tyres with ease in the wet if you turn the traction
control off.

I have an EF Falcon for a work car and that thing is down right dangerous in the wet. I've never driven a car that lights up the tyres so easily without trying.

[payaya]

WTF?

If you almost always spin then obviously you dont know how to drive period. Seriously I have many friends with LS1's with massive camber and they have no issues with wheelspin.

I have not met one person in my life who consistantly cannot keep their wheels from spinning in the wet.

:confused: