R8 Clubby Towing Boat [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

blowski

15-08-2008, 01:37 PM

Blown 540

15-08-2008, 01:43 PM

It will do it easy.

But i wouldnt take my clubsport within 100 metres of a boat ramp.

No way.

Find somebody with a four wheel drive to launch it .

masonv0lume

15-08-2008, 02:01 PM

I have a 2008 VE R8 in manual with an aftermarket 3000kg towbar and pull my 2000kg boat piece of cake. If the drawbar is long enough the car wheels wont even touch the water.

hsv-105

15-08-2008, 02:07 PM

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 02:13 PM

Mate you will near on pull the arse out of your VE trying to tow a Malibu.

I've got exactly the same boat and I tow that with a Turbo Diesel Cruiser and even that struggles at times.

Put for blokes in the car,all the ski gear,esky,fuel etc and the weight will be well over the legal limits.

Your quoted weight of 3600lb is only 1650kg and the wakesetter on a trailer will weigh a lot more than that.

Good luck with it but it's a sure way to fa#rk a good car all for the sake of a bit of wank factor. WTF, the guy was simply asking for some advice, why the reference to wank factor??

Perhaps he could borrow your Barina... Wank factor x 10!

Only part worth reading was your advice stating that ur TD Cruiser struggled, hence his car more than likely will too.

Brettly-2008

15-08-2008, 02:18 PM

Mate you will near on pull the arse out of your VE trying to tow a Malibu.

I've got exactly the same boat and I tow that with a Turbo Diesel Cruiser and even that struggles at times.

Put for blokes in the car,all the ski gear,esky,fuel etc and the weight will be well over the legal limits.

Your quoted weight of 3600lb is only 1650kg and the wakesetter on a trailer will weigh a lot more than that.

Good luck with it but it's a sure way to fa#rk a good car all for the sake of a bit of wank factor.

I could be wrong but aren't these things (V8 Holdens) supposed to tow caravans and the like?

I tow and launch my heavy, 18ft half cabin cruiser with a VZ Storm ute and it pisses it in, even on a sandy ramp. It gets a bit wet sometimes and it occasionally gets a little bogged, but hey it still does it and after a hose down it's back to normal.

hsv-105

15-08-2008, 02:21 PM

WTF, the guy was simply asking for some advice, why the reference to wank factor??

Perhaps he could borrow your Barina... Wank factor x 10!

Only part worth reading was your advice stating that ur TD Cruiser struggled, hence his car more than likely will too.

Hey leave me Barina out of this mate it's a cool car.

My dads Cruiser does a :goodjob:

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 02:24 PM

WTF, the guy was simply asking for some advice, why the reference to wank factor??

Perhaps he could borrow your Barina... Wank factor x 10!

Only part worth reading was your advice stating that ur TD Cruiser struggled, hence his car more than likely will too.

You idiot!

I agree its a great way to wreck a brand new clubby

Why doesn't your mate tow it with his car?

exploder

15-08-2008, 02:25 PM

Hey Guys,

A mate of mine owns a 2005 VLX Malibu Wakesetter, think its 3600lb, so about 3900 with the fuel and gear.

Question is would the clubby be able to launch it? or has anyone done so in there ss or similar or hsv its a manual thanks in advance guys, just dont want to go and try launching it to find out the car follows it in.

Our ramps are concrete, freshwater slight incline have no idea maybe 45-60 degrees? and i guess the back tyres would just be in the water to get the trailer deep enough.

The tow capacity of a manual R8 and any manual V8 Commodore since the VT is 1600Kg, regardless of which tow bar you fit. The maximum tow capacity of an auto is 2100kg.

So yes whilst I think you could probably do it a piece of piss, my VYII SS had no probs with a double horse float, you wouldn't be legal and you will kill a standard clutch.

Keep in mind you need to subtract the downward weight on the tow ball from the cars carrying capacity as well so at top weight and a couple of passengers the boot needs to be empty.

I have a 2008 VE R8 in manual with an aftermarket 3000kg towbar and pull my 2000kg boat piece of cake. If the drawbar is long enough the car wheels wont even touch the water.

So in an emergency situation the heaviest part of this combination is the trailer...

Quinny5.7L

15-08-2008, 02:34 PM

My uncle used to tow his 28ft boat with his VTII Clubsport 6 speed - never had any issues. Not sure on the weight, but it would have been more than 1600kg.

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 02:39 PM

You idiot!

I agree its a great way to wreck a brand new clubby

Why doesn't your mate tow it with his car? Why doesnt my mate tow Blowski's mates boat with his car? Is that a serious question?

He wasnt asking if it was going to wreck his car, he asked if it was capable of towing the boat.

I'm sure there are plenty of blokes here with their HSV's towing similar weights.

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 02:42 PM

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 02:57 PM

Yeah its serious! I wouldnt me towing any of my mates boats with my new HSV! I'm sorry, but it wouldnt even cross my mind

Your going to back the arse of a brand new clubby into the water at a boat ramp, I dont think so!

Just my 2 cents worth I just asked him, he said he was worried his VE GTS wasnt powerful enough, not to mention water tight. He'd feel more confident if he drove a Series 2 VY SS.

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 03:00 PM

I just asked him, he said he was worried his VE GTS wasnt powerful enough, not to mention water tight. He'd feel more confident if he drove a Series 2 VY SS.

Its not about that clown! :flipoff:

Its not even your thread but your taking it personally!

Shows how closely you are reading the thread doesnt it, he owns a clubby!

CarlFST60L

15-08-2008, 03:00 PM

Why doesnt my mate tow Blowski's mates boat with his car? Is that a serious question?

He wasnt asking if it was going to wreck his car, he asked if it was capable of towing the boat.

I'm sure there are plenty of blokes here with their HSV's towing similar weights.

WTF, the guy was simply asking for some advice, why the reference to wank factor??

Why are you getting so cut over people talking to your bf? :hide:

I have no problem towing my 18ft fishing boat with after market clutch. weighs 1400kg loaded.

Bloski
1. Its illegal to tow the boat your talking about based on weight, check your car's owners manual, then take the boat over the pits, I am pretty sure that boat is over the car's rated limits
2. Slipper boat ramp + very heavy boat = funniest home video moment

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 03:02 PM

Why are you getting so cut over people talking to your bf? :hide:

Gold! :goodjob:

Blown 540

15-08-2008, 03:05 PM

Kicks back ,feet up, popcorn ah there it is --:popcorn:

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 03:05 PM

Its not about that clown! :flipoff:

Its not even your thread but your taking it personally! My stance is that if he wants to tow his mates boat in his new HSV, then so be it. He wasnt asking if he should or shouldnt, he was asking if it would be capable of doing so. Some have stated that although it could, they wouldnt take their cars that close to the water etc etc, which is fair enough, as it may well lose grip when backing in/getting out etc, hence there could be a disaster.

You can decide if you do/dont want to tow a boat, when and if you do own a HSV. But for now, thats not what he is asking.

xploit

15-08-2008, 03:06 PM

Ladies Ladies!!! :confused:

In short blowski,

Theoretically you could do it, and yes it would probably handle it..

But ill give you a similar situation,

We have a 4.2 98 patrol which tows a 19ft riviera cruiser with a long draw bar..

Even in four wheel drive, when you back onto the boat ramp, if there has been high tide etc the ass of the fourby may not be anywhere near the water but you slip and slide something chronic (at times)

ive even had it losing traction on all four wheels on the ramp trying to stop the boat from pulling the fourby under with it. and my guess is that the 19ft cruiser weighs less than your malibu. Has only happened say 2 times out of 200 in the last 2 - 3 years..

But,

Put simply, are you willing to risk a brand new clubby to launch a boat? if so then go for it, nothing may happen but it may go terribly wrong..

in short its up to you.

dave

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 03:08 PM

Why are you getting so cut over people talking to your bf? :hide:

I have no problem towing my 18ft fishing boat with after market clutch. weighs 1400kg loaded.

Bloski
1. Its illegal to tow the boat your talking about based on weight, check your car's owners manual, then take the boat over the pits, I am pretty sure that boat is over the car's rated limits
2. Slipper boat ramp + very heavy boat = funniest home video moment

Ive always been over protective Carl, i was like that too when i was dating your old man... That is until you came into the picture... :jester:

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 03:09 PM

He could probably tow a truck with it! Doesnt mean he should!

Sorry for asking why you would want to tow a boat with a brand new HSV

:rolleyes:

xploit

15-08-2008, 03:11 PM

Ive always been over protective Carl, i was like that too when i was dating your old man... That is until you came into the picture...

Well.. theres something you dont hear everyday :lmao: :lmao:

:goodjob:

Doesnt boating just bring out the best in people???

Dave

CarlFST60L

15-08-2008, 03:11 PM

Ive always been over protective Carl, i was like that too when i was dating your old man... That is until you came into the picture... :jester:

As long as I dont get your sloppy seconds, im cool.

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 03:12 PM

As long as I dont get your sloppy seconds, im cool.

Ur my number one Carl.. shame the reference to FST in your username isnt in regards to your car, moreso urself.. not to worry, still the best 2 minutes ive ever had... MWAH!!! :jester:

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 03:13 PM

By the time blowski reads his thread it will just be full of bad jokes and angry boredom fueled comments

GODSMACK

15-08-2008, 03:14 PM

By the time blowski reads his thread it will just be full of bad jokes and angry boredom fueled comments LMFAO, he'll probably start a new thread, same title....

CarlFST60L

15-08-2008, 03:16 PM

By the time blowski reads his thread it will just be full of bad jokes and angry boredom fueled comments

At least it will be exciting than a thread thats all about big noting one self about their car and the boat they want to tow.

iloveholden

15-08-2008, 03:16 PM

Yeah i think it can be done but i wouldnt be taking my clubby any where near the water, big no no in my books :1peek:

matthewfnorbert

15-08-2008, 03:17 PM

Hey Guys,
Our ramps are concrete, freshwater slight incline have no idea maybe 45-60 degrees?

:rofl::rofl::rofl: 60 degrees! i think a hummer would have given up around there

S2VYSS

15-08-2008, 03:19 PM

LMFAO, he'll probably start a new thread, same title....

Pretty much, my friend has an ocean liner and I was wondering if my ferrari F430 would tow it! :rofl:

At least it will be exciting than a thread thats all about big noting one self about their car and the boat they want to tow.

Very true! :smilesandbanana:

:rofl::rofl::rofl: 60 degrees! i think a hummer would have given up around there

No way! I didnt notice he said that!

blowski

15-08-2008, 03:42 PM

Well i guess its sorted than the clubby shall not be towing the boat, thanks for the help, glad i didnt make the mistake

FatBoy

15-08-2008, 09:48 PM

Yep, better off finding a true "tow car" mate...

My Haines half cab is only a baby (maybe 1200kgs loaded) and the SS struggles on sh!tty ramps. I'd hate to have four heavy guys, loaded eskies etc as well...

redvxr8clubby

15-08-2008, 11:02 PM

Hah if a Vee Dub can tow a Jumbo Jet, a Clubby can tow a little ol boat (just not my Clubby). Weights are a big worry - if the weight of the boat is more than the car, you could have big trouble, the boat may well start to push the car around (not withstanding electric brakes) - control in adverse conditions could definitely be a serious problem. A heavy 4WD is really the ticket. If anyone is considering something like this, especially on a Commodore, the best weight distribution hitch you can get would be a must (I think Hayman Reece is about the best around). Definitely consult a tow shop about this. Personally I don't think Commodores are an especially good tow car, big powerful engine or not, I don't think the chassis is really up to it. A number of 4WD's now are rated around 3 tonnes towing capacity (not sure if actually legal), as said already in this thread 2100 Kg max for Commodore. At least the Clubby has got good brakes though.

masonv0lume

04-10-2008, 07:10 AM

6 Speed Manual - 300RKW - Pulls my 2000KG 6.41m boat perfectly. Never had a problem at boat ramps - the length of the boat means the rear wheels of the car don't go anywhere near the water.

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg132/masonv0lume/DSC_3108.jpg

Blown 540

04-10-2008, 08:26 AM

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redvxr8clubby

04-10-2008, 08:29 AM

Does anybody have problems with transmission overheating - I can't even get a box trailer with a bit of a load in it from Sydney to Newcastle without the transmission overheating and spewing fluid - this is in my VS exec (V6 auto). If I need to do anything like that again I figure I need an transmission cooler, but I have been told twice VS doesn't need it, but there are kits for it. I have had this problem twice - of course if you reduce your speed this helps, but certainly can't drive at normal highway speeds over a distance without problems. I have changed fuid after having the problem both times - fluid was burnt - not red anymore. No problems with transmission otherwise, just can't tow a load at highway speeds over a distance. I have a towbar on the clubby, but I don't use it tow.