View Full Version : HSV Clearence is this the start of the end?
Brisbane Sunday Mail is showing many dealers advertising clearence deals on VE HSV models. (although I paid the advertised price driveway in 06 for a man/R8.) They are still very attractive deals $58800 driveway. Cheap interest rates as well 5.99%.
Is this the start of the end of VE?
Or as it has been discussed before, is this just clearence of stock because of the current market pressures?
I have sold my 06 R8 and want to buy again, but instinct says VF might be closer than has been reported. Everyone enters the market at some point, but it is a bigger decision with a model change around the corner and you want the latest and greatest, which I do.(at least i'm honest)
There are some very imformative people on these forums and I would except to hear something thru these channels, seems quite.....
Older VF threads have stated mid 2009 and even 2010 but the papers might indicate different? Something is stiring.
:hmmm:
planetdavo
21-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Pretty much covered within the last week..
Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=106149)
Pretty much covered within the last week..
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=106149
So it seems, thanks.
But I'm really just stiring the pot on VF.
LSX-438
21-09-2008, 01:40 PM
So it seems, thanks.
But I'm really just stiring the pot on VF.
were these $58k drive away deals for LS3 or LS2 models?
DioXidE
21-09-2008, 02:33 PM
ahh ferk....
and to consider I just ordered a SS-V for $51500 @ 10.6% :(
FLI355
21-09-2008, 03:30 PM
Yep good deals to be had. Obviously Suttons at Roseberry aren't in a hurry to sell any cars though as they tried to sell me a demo SS-V with 4700km on the clock for $63,300 this morning. They must think people are idiots. Oh well strike that dealer off the list.
Auto Ls1
21-09-2008, 04:08 PM
Yep good deals to be had. Obviously Suttons at Roseberry aren't in a hurry to sell any cars though as they tried to sell me a demo SS-V with 4700km on the clock for $63,300 this morning. They must think people are idiots. Oh well strike that dealer off the list.
I agree with you there, I gave them my name and phone number 8 months ago because I wanted to buy a red vz r8 HSV & never heard from them again.
LSX-438
21-09-2008, 04:14 PM
Suttons Rosebery just suffer from being so big. They probably have all sorts of inpersonal systems and procedures in place - first of which would be to quote 100% FULL retail upfront. Perhaps try a smaller dealership like Homebush; probably same systems but they'll be hungier for it.
[Mitch]
21-09-2008, 04:36 PM
Would love to upgrade to a VE HSV but somehow i think i will be disappointed if i were to trade in my VZ :(
HOWQUICK
21-09-2008, 05:27 PM
Yep good deals to be had. Obviously Suttons at Roseberry aren't in a hurry to sell any cars though as they tried to sell me a demo SS-V with 4700km on the clock for $63,300 this morning. They must think people are idiots. Oh well strike that dealer off the list.
Just tell them what you have seen elsewhere with the ads and se what they will do. Be upfront from the beginning....the worst they can say is NO....
goes the same with any business dealings.
Pickles
21-09-2008, 05:44 PM
That is a MUCH better price than the previously quoted figure from FTG Holden in Melb.
Look, there's no doubt things are tough, & some people in these times, would, at the very least, defer the purchase of something like an HSV, until the economic climate in Aus becomes clearer. Of course it won't just be car sales that'll slow, but other non essential items as well.
But, it's for sure, there'll be some SUPER deals out there.
I guess it'd be a good idea if you keep advising of these "Driveaway" deals-because it will greatly assist those who are going to buy, in these "opportunistic" times.
Cheers, Pickles.
CDUCTV
21-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Brisbane Sunday Mail is showing many dealers advertising clearence deals on VE HSV models. (although I paid the advertised price driveway in 06 for a man/R8.) They are still very attractive deals $58800 driveway. Cheap interest rates as well 5.99%.
Is this the start of the end of VE?
Or as it has been discussed before, is this just clearence of stock because of the current market pressures?
I have sold my 06 R8 and want to buy again, but instinct says VF might be closer than has been reported. Everyone enters the market at some point, but it is a bigger decision with a model change around the corner and you want the latest and greatest, which I do.(at least i'm honest)
There are some very imformative people on these forums and I would except to hear something thru these channels, seems quite.....
Older VF threads have stated mid 2009 and even 2010 but the papers might indicate different? Something is stiring.
:hmmm:
Did it state what dealer was offering that price with a fixed 5.99% interest rate attached?
Even here, dealers selling GTS with only a few hundred km on it and offering 4.99% interest just to move them
http://www.carsales.com.au/new-cars-demo/HSV/GTS/details.aspx?Cr=13&__Ns=pCar_DemoStatusSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price _Decimal%7c0&__Nne=20&State=All%20States&distance=25&silo=1001&seot=0&RegionID=&Region=All%20Regions&state_id=0&__N=4294965530%200%204294965529%20%201216%20834%20 287&__sid=111768B2E200&Model=GTS&Make=HSV&R=6182714&trecs=40
GTR_069
22-09-2008, 06:22 AM
Just tell them what you have seen elsewhere with the ads and se what they will do. Be upfront from the beginning....the worst they can say is NO....
goes the same with any business dealings.
Go see Suttons Waitarra near Hornsby, have a great deal of stock and very felxiable, put a price on table and dont move they will flex we got a SS for the price of a SV6 no lie, we were not paying a cent more $38000 on road with extras, They also had some new old stock of HSV's as well be careful on the 4000 k ones we got our with just 25k's and there are plenty more delivery mile cars, the one with higher K's are the one folk flog on test drives and sales reps lol
GTR
!!COOKY!!
22-09-2008, 08:37 AM
That is a MUCH better price than the previously quoted figure from FTG Holden in Melb.
Look, there's no doubt things are tough, & some people in these times, would, at the very least, defer the purchase of something like an HSV, until the economic climate in Aus becomes clearer. Of course it won't just be car sales that'll slow, but other non essential items as well.
But, it's for sure, there'll be some SUPER deals out there.
I guess it'd be a good idea if you keep advising of these "Driveaway" deals-because it will greatly assist those who are going to buy, in these "opportunistic" times.
Cheers, Pickles.
I wouldn't have thought so. If you priced $55555 plus orc I think you may be suprised if it does not end up better....
Don't forget it is under LCT and would only incur 2.5% stamps......
SHANESVZSS
22-09-2008, 08:47 AM
altho not a HSV , but theres a voodoo ve ss ute , with 22inch wheels for $120 a week , not to sure the total amount probly around the 39k.
Pickles
22-09-2008, 09:18 AM
I wouldn't have thought so. If you priced $55555 plus orc I think you may be suprised if it does not end up better....
Don't forget it is under LCT and would only incur 2.5% stamps......
If you do the sums, I think you'll be surprised, & that the $58k price is way ahead. It's terrible how many "add ons", dealer delivery, taxes, & stamp duty, GST, etc etc there are.
Cheers
!!COOKY!!
22-09-2008, 09:50 AM
If you do the sums, I think you'll be surprised, & that the $58k price is way ahead. It's terrible how many "add ons", dealer delivery, taxes, & stamp duty, GST, etc etc there are.
Cheers
$55,555
$1495 dealer delivery
$57050
$1425 Stamp Duty
$645 Registration
$59120 as opposed to the $58800 mentioned here. Doesn't sound much cheaper....
Caprice270
22-09-2008, 10:06 AM
Yeah you'd prob walk in and FTG Holden would be like, "oh that will be 62k thankyou very much, now pull down your pants and bend over while I get all the boys lined up" and then you'll be back in a dog fight trying to get the deal you were expecting.
!!COOKY!!
22-09-2008, 11:30 AM
Yeah you'd prob walk in and FTG Holden would be like, "oh that will be 62k thankyou very much, now pull down your pants and bend over while I get all the boys lined up" and then you'll be back in a dog fight trying to get the deal you were expecting.
Guess you would never know unless you gave it a crack.
HBDCalais
22-09-2008, 11:54 AM
Yeah you'd prob walk in and FTG Holden would be like, "oh that will be 62k thankyou very much, now pull down your pants and bend over while I get all the boys lined up" and then you'll be back in a dog fight trying to get the deal you were expecting.
Mate i rang up Friday and was offered one on road for $59,200 with in five minitues in the color and transmission i was after.:)
Yeah you'd prob walk in and FTG Holden would be like, "oh that will be 62k thankyou very much, now pull down your pants and bend over while I get all the boys lined up" and then you'll be back in a dog fight trying to get the deal you were expecting.
In my experience FTG are (were?) on the most competitive dealers around Melbourne. I bought a new (back in 07) SS over the phone for $42,700 drive away. Other dealers I called wouldn't give me anything below RRP over the phone. Wanted me to come in and see them. I asked them for the sharpest price to do a deal (I had $42,500 in my head) and he came back with $42,700. I was quite happy I didn't even quibble over the $200!! Other dealers at the time were quoting $44k plus ORC!!
Pickles
22-09-2008, 12:53 PM
$55,555
$1495 dealer delivery
$57050
$1425 Stamp Duty
$645 Registration
$59120 as opposed to the $58800 mentioned here. Doesn't sound much cheaper....
You're right--both are bloody good prices--it would be interesting to hear, if anyone's done better.
Cheers, Pickles.
seldo
22-09-2008, 01:10 PM
$55,555
$1495 dealer delivery
$57050
$1425 Stamp Duty
$645 Registration
$59120 as opposed to the $58800 mentioned here. Doesn't sound much cheaper....I think you will find that if anyone really is serious about buying, and is actually ready to do so, that you can still buy better than this price.
If I was ready to buy a new one, having already done my homework on colours, RRP etc, I would go into a dealer on the last day of the month, ask to see the sales manager (don't settle for a sales-person) and just lay your cards on the table. Say to him that you want to buy a eg 6M R8 Clubsport in Sting Red and you are ready to sign an order and pay a deposit NOW, (produce cheque book at this point), but this is the deal you want... Maybe $55k plus actual reg/stamp costs - refuse to pay Pre-Delivery Fee- it's a bullshit cost - they may as well just call it "Extra Margin Fee". You will be surprised what you can do, particularly as they are trying to clear stock atm, and also as the year draws to a close, prior to all their stock effectively having a birthday on 1st January. They may even show you their price-list which will show their actual cost (but there is also what they call "hold-back" where the factory sends them a bonus every 3 months which is based on volume and is effectively an extra margin based on achieving target volumes.
Having spent 30 years in the business I will give a few tips:
Do your homework first - prices, colours, options, option costs
Show you are genuine - introduce yourself - offer your business card or name, address and phone no.
Ask to see the sales-manager, not a sales-person. "I know exactly what I want - I just want to discuss a deal".
Get your finance pre-approved so that you effectively become a cash buyer.
Shop in the last week of the month
Level with them - they like honesty and are experts in bullsh detection and have heard it all before. Go to all the dealers wihin a reasonable radius and ask for their best price ("I am ready to buy today/tomorrow - give me your best drive-away price for a cash-sale on an R8 6M in Sting Red with these (brand) options fitted"). They will ask you what is the best you have been offered, but don't bullshit to them, just say that you won't divulge that, and you won't divulge their price either, but you will buy a car this week/tomorrow from the dealer who gives you the best price. You won't be coming back for another try - give me your best price now, and if it is good enough you will be back tomorrow to place the order. Ask them to either give it to you in writing, or email it to you "so we both have no misunderstanding."
If there is a trade-in involved, make sure that all you are interested in is how much it will cost you to change-over and drive away. Don't let them sway you with seeming to give you more trade-in$ but charging a higher price. Change-over is all that matters.
Do not use their finance arm unless it compares favourably with your own financier, and don't just compare monthly payments - also residual/balloon values, early payout penalties, and above all, do the calculation of 48 x $565.32pm plus residual value of XX = what it will have cost you by the end of the finance. Compare theirs with yours. BTW, it can become a big deal clincher if you DO use their finance, but just make sure that it is on the same terms. Use this as a lever - say to them - "Provided you can offer the same finance terms, I'm happy to put it through you". (It is very important to the dealership to use their finance source).
Be prepared to walk away politely - Thanks, but no thanks - I can do a lot better than that.
Do the deal, and be honest and ethical about it.
Refuse to pay a Pre-delivery fee - it's just an extra margin.
DO NOT buy anything from the "after-sales" person who will try to flog you rust-proofing, paint-protection, floor-mats and every other add-on doodah known to man. Most people drop their guard having just done a great deal on the car purchase, and this is where the dealers rely on making a profit, and they often go pretty hard on the $$$. Big volume dealerships (and if some immature wanker uses the term stealership, I'll snot him...) are often prepared to sell cars for no margin at all, purely to get the after-market add-ons, finance and insurance deals.I could go on and on but this is too long already.
jaykay
22-09-2008, 01:18 PM
$55,555
$1495 dealer delivery
$57050
$1425 Stamp Duty
$645 Registration
$59120 as opposed to the $58800 mentioned here. Doesn't sound much cheaper....
And what do they do for that ???? :confused:
nudenut
22-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Having spent 30 years in the business I will give a few tips:
That's a great list seldo - thanks, might bookmark it for my next car search in a year or two.
Pickles
22-09-2008, 01:25 PM
SELDO- A "wise" post, some good info there.
The only point that I would make, to simplify the "Finance" aspect, is simply to make sure you know the TOTAL AMOUNT PAYABLE, or "T.A.P" as we used to call it, with respect to any Finance Contract that you may sign.
Interest rates, payments, term, residuals, balloon payments etc etc etc, can all be "manoeuvred", to disguise how things really are, but the bullshit stops with the T.A.P., which tells you how much you're REALLY paying, over the term of the contract.
Cheers, Pickles.
NonSense
22-09-2008, 02:14 PM
I think you will find that if anyone really is serious about buying, and is actually ready to do so, that you can still buy better than this price.
If I was ready to buy a new one, having already done my homework on colours, RRP etc, I would go into a dealer on the last day of the month, ask to see the sales manager (don't settle for a sales-person) and just lay your cards on the table. Say to him that you want to buy a eg 6M R8 Clubsport in Sting Red and you are ready to sign an order and pay a deposit NOW, (produce cheque book at this point), but this is the deal you want... Maybe $55k plus actual reg/stamp costs - refuse to pay Pre-Delivery Fee- it's a bullshit cost - they may as well just call it "Extra Margin Fee". You will be surprised what you can do, particularly as they are trying to clear stock atm, and also as the year draws to a close, prior to all their stock effectively having a birthday on 1st January. They may even show you their price-list which will show their actual cost (but there is also what they call "hold-back" where the factory sends them a bonus every 3 months which is based on volume and is effectively an extra margin based on achieving target volumes.
Having spent 30 years in the business I will give a few tips:
Do your homework first - prices, colours, options, option costs
Show you are genuine - introduce yourself - offer your business card or name, address and phone no.
Ask to see the sales-manager, not a sales-person. "I know exactly what I want - I just want to discuss a deal".
Get your finance pre-approved so that you effectively become a cash buyer.
Shop in the last week of the month
Level with them - they like honesty and are experts in bullsh detection and have heard it all before. Go to all the dealers wihin a reasonable radius and ask for their best price ("I am ready to buy today/tomorrow - give me your best drive-away price for a cash-sale on an R8 6M in Sting Red with these (brand) options fitted"). They will ask you what is the best you have been offered, but don't bullshit to them, just say that you won't divulge that, and you won't divulge their price either, but you will buy a car this week/tomorrow from the dealer who gives you the best price. You won't be coming back for another try - give me your best price now, and if it is good enough you will be back tomorrow to place the order. Ask them to either give it to you in writing, or email it to you "so we both have no misunderstanding."
If there is a trade-in involved, make sure that all you are interested in is how much it will cost you to change-over and drive away. Don't let them sway you with seeming to give you more trade-in$ but charging a higher price. Change-over is all that matters.
Do not use their finance arm unless it compares favourably with your own financier, and don't just compare monthly payments - also residual/balloon values, early payout penalties, and above all, do the calculation of 48 x $565.32pm plus residual value of XX = what it will have cost you by the end of the finance. Compare theirs with yours. BTW, it can become a big deal clincher if you DO use their finance, but just make sure that it is on the same terms. Use this as a lever - say to them - "Provided you can offer the same finance terms, I'm happy to put it through you". (It is very important to the dealership to use their finance source).
Be prepared to walk away politely - Thanks, but no thanks - I can do a lot better than that.
Do the deal, and be honest and ethical about it.
Refuse to pay a Pre-delivery fee - it's just an extra margin.
DO NOT buy anything from the "after-sales" person who will try to flog you rust-proofing, paint-protection, floor-mats and every other add-on doodah known to man. Most people drop their guard having just done a great deal on the car purchase, and this is where the dealers rely on making a profit, and they often go pretty hard on the $$$. Big volume dealerships (and if some immature wanker uses the term stealership, I'll snot him...) are often prepared to sell cars for no margin at all, purely to get the after-market add-ons, finance and insurance deals.I could go on and on but this is too long already.
LOL! i had a good chuckle when i read this....
There are some good bits and bad bits to this post...
The bit about asking for the manager made me LOL when i hear that at work i cant help but laugh.... your going to deal with the best negotiater in the joint instead of the salesman who just wants anysale that he can get.
When there is a advertised price they account for the dealer dellivery....
eg, advertised price is $55,555 instead of $57,050 is just a way of getting people in the door.
You are misleading people by telling them "dont pay it and you wont cop it" cuase they will get kicked out of the showroom!!!
If you have been in the game for 30 years you should know better than that!
Last day of the month is rubbish, you need to pick the car up buy the last day of the month! or its just another carry over into next month deal.
/end post!
seldo
22-09-2008, 02:39 PM
LOL! i had a good chuckle when i read this....
There are some good bits and bad bits to this post...
The bit about asking for the manager made me LOL when i hear that at work i cant help but laugh.... your going to deal with the best negotiater in the joint instead of the salesman who just wants anysale that he can get. The salesman has to run the deal past the sales-manager anyway - it just simplifies the process and gets past having to deal with smart-arse salemen....
When there is a advertised price they account for the dealer dellivery....
eg, advertised price is $55,555 instead of $57,050 is just a way of getting people in the door. You were obviously too busy being clever to have read the example given where they were also charging PDF on top of the quoted price
You are misleading people by telling them "dont pay it and you wont cop it" cuase they will get kicked out of the showroom!!!I simply said don't pay it - nothing at all about not copping it . Maybe your obviously high-grade establishment might kick them out, but a professional business won't.
If you have been in the game for 30 years you should know better than that! I sure do....How long have you been in it....5 minutes?
Last day of the month is rubbish, you need to pick the car up buy the last day of the month! or its just another carry over into next month deal.
Ahh - you got me! Correct on one count! I missed that slip-up in my long post in the main copy, but got it right in the bullet points...sorry, you seasoned old trooper you. Did I upset you by making life a bit harder for you...?
NonSense
22-09-2008, 03:10 PM
The salesman has to run the deal past the sales-manager anyway - it just simplifies the process and gets past having to deal with smart-arse salemen....
Your assuming this now... NOT all salesman are smart-arse's.
You were obviously too busy being clever to have read the example given where they were also charging PDF on top of the quoted price
Yeah i flicked through that part, So yeah might have a wire crossed.
But relax ACCC laws required all fees to be printed next to the before ORC in the same size font now anyway. So they cant.
I simply said don't pay it - nothing at all about not copping it . Maybe your obviously high-grade establishment might kick them out, but a professional business won't.
Your missleading people here... EVERYONE pays a dealer delivery fee.
How do you get out of paying it? GM employees, GOV'T, National Fleet Companies they have to pay it... (reduced amount) but it is still there!!! and they would buy more cars than you ever will...
I sure do....How long have you been in it....5 minutes?
What times is it? might be 10 minutes :)
seldo
22-09-2008, 03:45 PM
Your assuming this now... NOT all salesman are smart-arse's. Agreed. But all salesmen have to run every skinny deal past the sales-manager, don't they! Nod your head.
Yeah i flicked through that part, So yeah might have a wire crossed.
But relax ACCC laws required all fees to be printed next to the before ORC in the same size font now anyway. So they cant. So I was right again? Nod your head.
Your missleading people here... EVERYONE pays a dealer delivery fee.
How do you get out of paying it? GM employees, GOV'T, National Fleet Companies they have to pay it... (reduced amount) but it is still there!!! and they would buy more cars than you ever will... Not so. I didn't pay it last time a bought a new car (18mths ago) because I refused to. As you well know, it is nothing more than a nice little revenue earner and is simply another profit margin for the dealership. There is absolutely nothing that requires anyone to pay it. The only reason that fleets and govt purchasers do so is because the industry has been so clever in adopting levying it nationally that we are all used to it. When the dealer is asked to justify it, the usual response is that it covers the mechanical Pre-delivery inspection (5 minutes to count that it has 4 wheels and an engine), detailing (okay, 30 minutes), registration and affixing plates (5mins), plastic plate frames advertising the dealership (0.90c) petrol (usually enough to get you to the driveway of the nearest servo), and....and....ummmmh.....other stuff....
Any reasonable person would think these should be absorbed as part of the sales margin as a cost of sale. It's a bit like a cabbie saying the fare is $10.50 plus $1.90 for fuel (Mind you, that won't be too far away)
BTW - did I charge delivery fees in my business..? Damned right I did - because people were silly enough to pay them.
What times is it? might be 10 minutes :) :lol: OK.
Excellent
22-09-2008, 03:45 PM
Your missleading people here... EVERYONE pays a dealer delivery fee.
How do you get out of paying it? GM employees, GOV'T, National Fleet Companies they have to pay it... (reduced amount) but it is still there!!! and they would buy more cars than you ever will...
I was under the impression the DDF was indeed negotiable? First time I've heard it's compulsory! Are you for real?
NonSense
22-09-2008, 03:57 PM
Look at the End of the Day its there,
If its not written on the paperwork they still have allowed for it, Simple as that.
Agreed? Nod your head!
seldo
22-09-2008, 04:09 PM
I was under the impression the DDF was indeed negotiable? First time I've heard it's compulsory! Are you for real?No - he's been brain-washed by his boss because it represents a fair bit of their retained margin - he's dreaming.
Geez, All I wanted to do was find out if any new info was around on VF:eyes:
But a good read anyway:)
NonSense
22-09-2008, 04:31 PM
2010.
Some dealers are just over stocked
!!COOKY!!
22-09-2008, 05:17 PM
Dealer delivery does certainly seem steep at $1495. Agree with you on that one Seldo.
Obviously being in the industry you would know though that sometimes the dealer delivery charge is costed into the plus on road price to square it up in a reduced SALE price.
Ie: a car owes a dealership $50,000 on their book. It will be advertised for $48500 plus ORC. In this situation you would have an issue not paying the dealer delivery fee because the dealer would be losing out.
In this case you actually got your predelivery charges for free but the contract will show $1495.
It is not the best way of advertising but you have to make your price look competitive against the opposition and unfortunately this is a standard.
There are some good tips in your post however the only suggestions I would add is deal with a large dealer as they can be more aggressive and try to match up a good deal with some good service. These are great cars and it is nice to have dealt with someone that treats you respectfully before and after the sale to make the experience a whole lot better.
In regards to HSV, I think you will find most HSV specialists are quite experienced and will get you the right deal, maybe even squezze the sales manager a little harder for you than you can to get the deal..
Any ways, the good news is that there seems to be some great deals going around for some great cars. Hopefuly some lucky punters can pick some up with a smile.
GTR_069
22-09-2008, 05:38 PM
SHOP AROUND AND YES GO IN WITH YOUR LIST OF WANTS
I too went in the last week of month and said I wanted the list of options and only wanted to pay x amount, $37500, on road, got him to $38500, I said $38000 and we got a nod minus options, from manager, then on days before collectiong I said what about the options lol, he said he couldnt do deal, I sort of said i respect that but for $500 worth of options you might loose the deal completely, we got them on car, then slipped my mind it was a business rego which is more money on top, but to be honest they wore it, and still through in the complimentry Travel Rug, Golf Umbrella, and Sun Shade as well as 3 years car wash and free first 3 years service and 3 years extended warranty
Coudlnt have got a nicer genuine dealer, I can honestly say be genuine no tyre kicking, have what you want in head a figure and be prepared to walk away,
As for the VF's I couldn't be happier in my VE, I will wait a few years and upgrade, I think most dealers are way over loaded as when we was shopping around there yards and stock piles were full, and no waiting for most cars
Thanks GTR
matthewfnorbert
22-09-2008, 05:44 PM
SHOP AROUND AND YES GO IN WITH YOUR LIST OF WANTS
I too went in the last week of month and said I wanted the list of options and only wanted to pay x amount, $37500, on road, got him to $38500, I said $38000 and we got a nod minus options, from manager, then on days before collectiong I said what about the options lol, he said he couldnt do deal, I sort of said i respect that but for $500 worth of options you might loose the deal completely, we got them on car, then slipped my mind it was a business rego which is more money on top, but to be honest they wore it, and still through in the complimentry Travel Rug, Golf Umbrella, and Sun Shade as well as 3 years car wash and free first 3 years service and 3 years extended warranty
Coudlnt have got a nicer genuine dealer, I can honestly say be genuine no tyre kicking, have what you want in head a figure and be prepared to walk away,
As for the VF's I couldn't be happier in my VE, I will wait a few years and upgrade, I think most dealers are way over loaded as when we was shopping around there yards and stock piles were full, and no waiting for most cars
Thanks GTR
good experience :goodjob: where did you buy it?
GTR_069
22-09-2008, 06:02 PM
Suttons at Waitarra, top people and Suttons generally have what you want no waiting, the other thing I liked,
Oh as for best bang for buck for finance was St George no one could get near them for the rate and for the TAP, best rate going noone could go near it and end of day its banking institution thats be around not a fly by the night or over priced finance company
There is a Crunch one sittng there also waiting for similar deal
maybe less
GTR
CDUCTV
22-09-2008, 06:37 PM
what have people found as far as dealerships offering 4.99% and 5.99% to finance these cars, which is WAY below what the banks will offer for finance.
Is there any catches or is it that dealerships are wanting to move the stock that much they are prepared to take such low interest rates
BEARWOOD
23-09-2008, 12:23 PM
what have people found as far as dealerships offering 4.99% and 5.99% to finance these cars, which is WAY below what the banks will offer for finance.
Is there any catches or is it that dealerships are wanting to move the stock that much they are prepared to take such low interest rates
Would be good to know this as it's atleast half the rate of what banks offer.
R8tourer
23-09-2008, 12:59 PM
what have people found as far as dealerships offering 4.99% and 5.99% to finance these cars, which is WAY below what the banks will offer for finance.
Is there any catches or is it that dealerships are wanting to move the stock that much they are prepared to take such low interest rates
I think you'll find the amount of time you pay it for... will all add up compared to a bank.
With the finance being offered being lower than the current cash interest rate, there's going to be a residual amount for sure or they would be losing money.
If you're unfortunate enough to have to finance any sort of car, do it through a financial institution that's not going to be losing money on the cash interest rate and where there's no residual.
Just my 3.5 cents.
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