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F6Mauz
22-09-2008, 12:17 PM
I recently saw a person who had an Auto Taser. It's a wheel lock which is electrified and when someone tries to remove it they get shocked with 50,000 volts.Are we allowed to use it in this country? Can we get sued if someone breaks in to your car and gets electrocuted with it? These are from the US so i wonder if they'll pass customs?


YouTube - Auto Taser electrified steering wheel lock 1 of 2 - DAY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLLngF_FyL4)

YouTube - Auto Taser electrified steering wheel lock 2 of 2 - NIGHT (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ9_EHizFVc)

SCiFiRE
22-09-2008, 12:33 PM
Very, very, very illegal.

seedyrom
22-09-2008, 12:37 PM
Do they do a wiper blade model?

No more parking tickets :)

johno5.7
22-09-2008, 12:44 PM
LOL - well done seedyrom

F6Mauz,
you'll find yourself in court facing assault and possibly worse charges if it all went south, not to mention then the civil court....

they won't get past customs as they are an illegal item as no person is allowed to possess them unless your states relevant statute authorises particular persons, via exemption, to carry them, ie police, defence forces, certain security guards etc...

although they are a good idea, should be wired into the door handle, but i bet the car owner would get zapped more often than a car thief.

NQCalais
22-09-2008, 12:49 PM
Hahaaahahaha, thats great. I can see someone getting zapped, then passing out on the steering wheel to continue their shock therapy until the batteries run out. Your floormats would then look like the ground under a Bug-zapper......

Knawful
22-09-2008, 12:50 PM
ICan we get sued if someone breaks in to your car and gets electrocuted with it?


Not if you bury the body before he has a chance to get to report it.

seldo
22-09-2008, 01:26 PM
I'm in shock - that's revolting. I think there's currently ample devices around to short-circuit the thefts and provide some resistance. Any impedence is good however , although I don't know wire we should be cable of such electrifying devices - it could be terminal.
Sorry - that was shocking
:hide:

SCiFiRE
22-09-2008, 01:30 PM
I'm in shock - that's revolting. I think there's currently ample devices around to short-circuit the thefts and provide some resistance. Any impedence is good however , although I don't know wire we should be cable of such electrifying devices - it could be terminal.
Sorry - that was shocking
:hide:

:rofl: oh dear,,,,....

VXSS346
22-09-2008, 01:33 PM
Sounds like a great idea. :goodjob:
Gauranteed it'll reduce car theft too. :idea:

Laws aside (laws never make sense anyway) if someone trespasses into someone elses property, as far as I'm concerned, they deserve everything they get.
Sounds like common sense to me.

My 2c. :)

VX2VESS
22-09-2008, 01:33 PM
if tasers are not allowed here then these won't be.

Knawful
22-09-2008, 01:57 PM
Sounds like a great idea. :goodjob:
Gauranteed it'll reduce car theft too. :idea:

Laws aside (laws never make sense anyway) if someone trespasses into someone elses property, as far as I'm concerned, they deserve everything they get.
Sounds like common sense to me.

My 2c. :)

Pummel them with an "organic carrott", drag them out onto the nature strip, pour cheap wine on 'em (you dont wanna waste good stuff) then call the cop's saying theres some drunk guy's fighting on your nature strip can you come and move them along...Sorted!


Yeah, it work's.

C4B
22-09-2008, 02:01 PM
You wouldn't be collecting $200 (or passing go) if you were caught with one of them in your car.......

F6 381
22-09-2008, 02:04 PM
Well if we can't use it on the car maybe one could hook it up to the door bell and nail those pesky mormons that come ringing your door bell early on Sunday Morning.

Surely you wouldn't get in trouble for that :eyes:

vz6.0
22-09-2008, 03:39 PM
i believe the charge is described as "man trapping"

Better off with a big bottle of c02 in the boot, and an arrangement that deadlocks the doors and opens the valve.

Thief falls asleep in your car, you call the police and wind down a window.

Very hard to detect since theres a fair bit of it around naturally.

Just need to time the gas release, a little too much gas, or a little too much exposure and the authoritahs may not appreciate your ingenuity.

Call it a fire prevention system, they do the same job.

Hope this helps :)

nang3
22-09-2008, 03:50 PM
I'm in shock - that's revolting. I think there's currently ample devices around to short-circuit the thefts and provide some resistance. Any impedence is good however , although I don't know wire we should be cable of such electrifying devices - it could be terminal.
Sorry - that was shocking
:hide:

Ohm my god, that was terrible !! :goodjob:

zorro
22-09-2008, 04:14 PM
I know of a certain someone who rigged up a shocker system on their gauge pods when they were sitting externally. worked a treat. Illegal who cares, they shouldnt be in the car in the first place, what are they going to do report it to the police?

CeeVee8
22-09-2008, 04:23 PM
Ohm my god, that was terrible !! :goodjob:

Yep Seldo that was so bad it HERTZ

Grommz
22-09-2008, 04:31 PM
Yep Seldo that was so bad it HERTZ

i would of said it was Shocking

:lol:

daVEss
22-09-2008, 04:51 PM
theres a story flowing around the electrical industry of an electrician who had devised a way to liven all his light switches in his house from a cb in his switchboard,... goes on to say that someone broke into his house when he wasnt home, flipped a switch got 230 volts and a decent amount of amps to leave him looking like a charcoaled chicken. The electrician was charged with man slaughter and is apparntly serving a life sentance.

not to sure of the credibility of the story, but always hear the old guys mention it

also reminded me of stick death i used to watch when i was younger


YouTube - Anti Auto Theft Devices - 2004 Models (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knBqRuNotbA)

heavychevy
22-09-2008, 05:50 PM
What about a Trunk Monkey from Suburban Auto Group?

YouTube - Suburban Auto Group Trunk Monkey #4 - Thrown off a Bridge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geynA-JYDHE)

Mungrel
22-09-2008, 06:19 PM
I know of a certain someone who rigged up a shocker system on their gauge pods when they were sitting externally. worked a treat. Illegal who cares, they shouldnt be in the car in the first place, what are they going to do report it to the police?

The only prob with that Ash, is that previous cases show that the offender can - and has - gotten away with it in the past leaving the real victim pennyless and with the criminal record...

Me personally, my only concern about this particular form of prevention, is i'd probably forget and electrocute myself :bawl:

planetdavo
22-09-2008, 06:22 PM
you'll find yourself in court facing assault and possibly worse charges if it all went south, not to mention then the civil court....

Hmmm, I wonder if you could plead ignorance, and claim it must be "static electricity"..? :rofl:

johno5.7
22-09-2008, 06:29 PM
Pummel them with an "organic carrott", drag them out onto the nature strip, pour cheap wine on 'em (you dont wanna waste good stuff) then call the cop's saying theres some drunk guy's fighting on your nature strip can you come and move them along...Sorted!


Yeah, it work's.

spoken like a man with experience...:goodjob:


Hmmm, I wonder if you could plead ignorance, and claim it must be "static electricity"..? :rofl:

u could try, but unfortunately the law recognises that 'ignorance of the law affords no excuse', to those that offend against it...

macca33
22-09-2008, 06:41 PM
Not a real flash idea - especially if your son/daughter decided to have a look (touch) of your shiny wheel nuts one day.....

And yes - definitely illegal in Victoria at least.

Cheers,

Macca

Noisy
22-09-2008, 06:56 PM
When my Grandad lived in Malaya during the 50's his old Dodge, not so old then i guess! kept getting stolen by the communist rebels ( they lived right on the edge of KL where it just turned to jungle at the back fence) so he disconnected the battery and wired the car up to the house mains at night. After the first guy got zapped it never got stolen again.

smokey777
22-09-2008, 07:18 PM
When my Grandad lived in Malaya during the 50's his old Dodge, not so old then i guess! kept getting stolen by the communist rebels ( they lived right on the edge of KL where it just turned to jungle at the back fence) so he disconnected the battery and wired the car up to the house mains at night. After the first guy got zapped it never got stolen again.

ya i know someone who did that to his fence cause the horse kept scratching itself on it. after the first time it never done it again

Mozz
22-09-2008, 07:22 PM
In sunny qld it's against the criminal code 1899:

327 Setting mantraps
(1) Any person who sets or places any spring-gun, mantrap, or
other engine calculated to destroy human life or to inflict
grievous bodily harm, or causes any such thing to be set or
placed, in any place with the intent that it may kill or inflict
grievous bodily harm upon a trespasser or other person
coming in contact with it, or sets or places any such thing in
any such place and in any such manner that it is likely to cause
any such result, is guilty of a misdemeanour, and is liable to
imprisonment for 3 years.
(2) Any person who knowingly permits any such spring-gun,
mantrap, or other engine, which has been set or placed by
another person in any such place and in any such manner that
it is likely to cause any such result, to continue so set or
placed in any place which is then in, or afterwards comes into,
the person’s possession or occupation, is deemed to have set
and placed the gun, trap, or engine, with the intent aforesaid.
(3) This section does not make it unlawful to set any gin or trap
such as is usually set for the purpose of destroying vermin; or
to set any spring-gun, mantrap, or engine, at night in a
dwelling house for the protection of the dwelling house.

HSVREDSLED
22-09-2008, 07:24 PM
Do they do a wiper blade model?

No more parking tickets :)

Good idea to detract those sqeeugy guys who clean your windscreen at the lights too!

jmc04
22-09-2008, 08:07 PM
are they legal?


depends where you leave the body :p

nang3
23-09-2008, 09:52 AM
spewin, another great idea made illegal in case the poor little thieves get an owie while ripping off hard working law abiding citizens !!!!

SS Enforcer
23-09-2008, 10:09 AM
I can't see the problem with em actually as there is a sign on them and the system gives a warning before arming itself . It isn't strong enough to kill but will give a big zap to someone.

If theses were legal I bet they would be targetted by the thieves , they could also be used by them for unlawfull purposes.

cheers

VX2VESS
23-09-2008, 10:18 AM
just hook up a coil to zap em

Blown 540
23-09-2008, 10:31 AM
Our electric fence unit is 9000 volts and that is enough to wake you up , it has got me a few times ,stuck my finger in the junction box (accidently)on the horse shed the other day while putting some new wall sheets up and it was numb for about half an hour.Had a packet of self drilling screws in my hand ,they went everywere.Lots of swearing.
So i reckon 50,000 volts would deff hurt.

nang3
25-09-2008, 09:39 AM
I can't see the problem with em actually as there is a sign on them and the system gives a warning before arming itself . It isn't strong enough to kill but will give a big zap to someone.

If theses were legal I bet they would be targetted by the thieves , they could also be used by them for unlawfull purposes.

cheers

yeh i cant see the problem with a warning either ;

"Oi O2 thief, if you try and steal this car you will get zapped instead of just a useless siren and easy to bypass immobilizer"

then if they continue to break the law then they get instant punishment instead of slapped on the wrist by the courts.

as for theives targetting these, i'd rather a shock than being stabbed or shot in the face