steering control arm snapped and damged the car

[italiano23q]

Has anyone out there had an issue with the control arms breaking I was driving the car on a straight road tonight the road was a lil wet from the drizzle as i was driving all of a sudden the back end slid hard to the right and and did a 180 and hit the gutter the car locked up and slammed the rear wheel into a gutter destroying the wheel and other part. had a quick look the control arm has ripped straight through the crossmember. need to have a look later to see all the damage to it. no body damage at least.

to make thing worst someone had reported it to the police and they came out and now are charging me for neg driving on double demerit weekend as well. which i find bshit seeing i couldnt help wat happened, he accused me of being a lier because he thinks i was speeding

has any1 else had this problem b4

[seldo]

Has anyone out there had an issue with the control arms breaking I was driving the car on a straight road tonight the road was a lil wet from the drizzle as i was driving all of a sudden the back end slid hard to the right and and did a 180 and hit the gutter the car locked up and slammed the rear wheel into a gutter destroying the wheel and other part. had a quick look the control arm has ripped straight through the crossmember. need to have a look later to see all the damage to it. no body damage at least.

to make thing worst someone had reported it to the police and they came out and now are charging me for neg driving on double demerit weekend as well. which i find bshit seeing i couldnt help wat happened, he accused me of being a lier because he thinks i was speeding

has any1 else had this problem b4You were just driving along quietly minding your own business and this happened....? :rolleyes: Give us a break....
OK, so you decided to give it some stick, lost it on the slippery road, hit the gutter, and now want to have a whinge.
You play - you pay... :doh:

[italiano23q]

think wat u want mate but something snapped on the car causing steering wheel locked up hard to the left and to spin out. y wuld i give it a hit during double demerit long weekend in the wet as well ok i am am a p plater but not that stupid mate seriously mate grow the f..k up were not all fwits on the road

[HSVREDSLED]

Get a independent mechanics report on the damage and forward it to the RTA asking for the ticket to be waived. If thats no good take it to court.

[TUFFIE]

You were just driving along quietly minding your own business and this happened....? :rolleyes: Give us a break....
OK, so you decided to give it some stick, lost it on the slippery road, hit the gutter, and now want to have a whinge.
You play - you pay... :doh:

:goodjob: Yup.. sounds about as realistic as it gets..

[seldo]

think wat u want mate but something snapped on the car causing steering wheel locked up hard to the left and to spin out. y wuld i give it a hit during double demerit long weekend in the wet as well ok i am am a p plater but not that stupid mate seriously mate grow the f..k up were not all fwits on the road If that's really what happened I'll be the first to apologise.
So - are saying you were not accelerating when this happened?:driving: I somehow doubt it....

[italiano23q]

i was on the pedal cause i was driving on a straight but just crusing in 4th gear just over 60km/h when it spun out if i was speeding i tell u there woulda been a whole lot more damage to the car

[kayman]

the question was were you accelerating...

[italiano23q]

the question was were you accelerating...

no not accelerating i was sitting on the same speed

[TUFFIE]

Ok in fairness to you... is the car a manual or Auto?
what condition were your rear tyres in, were they Roadworthy?
were you travelling up hill?
how many ppl in the car at the time?

[italiano23q]

Ok in fairness to you... is the car a manual or Auto?
what condition were your rear tyres in, were they Roadworthy?
were you travelling up hill?
how many ppl in the car at the time?

yeh the car is a manual and i was driving uphill i was on my own when it happened. the tyres are still in new condition at least 85% tread on them

[lowriding]

everyone will jump to a conclusion as its an easy explanation .why dont you post some pics of the damage . I will give you the benefit of the doubt ,I also remember someone else posting something very similar happening a few weeks ago.

[SCiFiRE]

sounds like a job for Crash Investigation Unit!

I love that show.

[mmciau]

Get the computer downloaded and see if it backs up your driving style at that time!

Mike

[zorro]

unlucky for this to happen mate, seems highly unlikely though. Although another member recently had some bad luck and into a gutter from a failure in the rear end so it is probable.

What corner of the car hit the gutter, was it the side the arm had failed? This will be an interesting one, good luck with the Police and Insurance on this one. A failure like that wont be easy to convince anyone on.

[C4B]

has any1 else had this problem b4

Nope Never!

[Big_Valven]

Mate, you're better off saying you simply lost control of the car if you want insurance. They don't cover component failure, but shitty driving? you bet.

[C4B]

They don't cover component failure

You're joking right?????

[SV346]

Even if you were giving it a thrash mate control arms dont just snap from that, so many f...ing sh...eads on here preach out their ass id like to see how they drive. But i wish you luck in telling the cop how it is, i hate them just recently they are being pricks, i think they need to get their numbers back up to meet the budget. Has the car ever been in an accident before? lowered?

[Vulture]

Sounds like it aquaplaned and then damaged the control arm from hitting the gutter? Probably most likely scenario. If a part failed spontaneously there would be a way to prove this but I'd imagine it could cost a fair bit as it would involve metal fatigue analysis etc.

[Big_Valven]

You're joking right?????

My insurers, and subsequently their lawyers, told me if the my car had crashed as a result of the stub axle snapping, then it wouldn't be covered. However, if I told them I had simply lost control of the car, no worries. I sh*t thee not.

[Party Pete]

So if you had a blow out would they also refuse to cover that too? Scary stuff. Who was the insurance company again?

How's the rebuild going BTW?

[italiano23q]

here are sum photos of the road u can see the tyre marks are on the other side of the road where the back end swung out.
http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/300000020f8092c/1/66/YEF_lwPSpj-hWmHNIU8KhpPatTPCK08z.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/nuLUyqob4z-5XbBfHu4V_2PLFEVmwd93?referrer=hlnk)

my car ended up where the whit magna is but facing the opposite direction


http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/300000020f7f80b/1/198/lovEZY5q4z-JzQSeWdLJXH9HJPCikRKg.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/J9ceuyIa4D-5OTfEf6l0MgK8GYbojIym?referrer=hlnk)


this is the damage to the car

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/300000020f7fcef/1/178/XlYi2any3T9yGlwDphvSJf5rzx_zYgAc.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/8AyycJdm6T8dRys5KNVBjCrd6aKqbshl?referrer=hlnk)

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/4/S/300000020f81305/1/245/GveakySQ6j-7FMIm5JS7rYWcqb9Nlqur.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/jAPrmvPUyz8oLUMnBSXoLa_q2bCTNFRQ?referrer=hlnk)
i dont know the whole extent of the damage until properly looked at

[Lunchbox]

Here's the pics inserted correctly

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f8092c/1/66/2M8V-7u91D8-bvN7SacXBXh-omTsHYGw.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/7sSid3nd6z8ZN0OxmYHkxASLsRsoLY9T?referrer=hlnk)

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f7f80b/1/198/UO6sd_kKwD_7m039y1hHWYyJjBROSzUo.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/pGh3ec2L7z_mRLcIVwb48iTxMHHx-Cvg?referrer=hlnk)

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f7fcef/1/178/iEo4R6NjzT_g7vTX2cG2I-8mlKbtR4to.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/wPWS-6o9oz9cGSfggEVOLttNEl3JO5b6?referrer=hlnk)


Cheers, Lunchbox


Damn, too slow

[italiano23q]

lol thanks lunchbox,

i was just reading my insurance policy they will not cover for any mechanical structual or electrical damage which caused the accident so looks like im gonna have to say i just lost control of the car

[HSVREDSLED]

Which side did of the car did the steering component break on? Left or right?

[Micks]

Surprisingly enough it's generally true that most insurers will not cover the item that caused the failure & will not repair or replace that item.
Same goes for most of the mechanics of your vehicle only if directly damaged from the incident, but not the other way round. Every time you re insure always a good thing to read the little booklet it in fact tells you this.

Cheers
VYT

[Big_Valven]

So if you had a blow out would they also refuse to cover that too? Scary stuff. Who was the insurance company again?

How's the rebuild going BTW?

Not sure about a blowout, probably depends on the condition of the tyre beforehand.

Repairs are going well, I had been told I'll get it back this Friday but being a 4 day week I think it'll be done next week. Of course photos will follow :)

[duke5700]

Good luck with it bud. There are some old d_i_c_k heads on here that are about as narrow minded as it gets. Love to get on the high horse and preach. Ignore them.

Explore your options, even if you where not at fault sometimes its easier to take the bullet and atleast you will get your car repaired.

[C4B]

So if you have a suspension failure, and then plough through the front of a house, will they cover all the repairs except the suspension component that caused the accident, or will the whole claim be voided outright?????

[italiano23q]

Which side did of the car did the steering component break on? Left or right?


the drivers side snapped.

[seldo]

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f8092c/1/66/2M8V-7u91D8-bvN7SacXBXh-omTsHYGw.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/7sSid3nd6z8ZN0OxmYHkxASLsRsoLY9T?referrer=hlnk)

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f7f80b/1/198/UO6sd_kKwD_7m039y1hHWYyJjBROSzUo.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/pGh3ec2L7z_mRLcIVwb48iTxMHHx-Cvg?referrer=hlnk)

http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/3/W/300000020f7fcef/1/178/iEo4R6NjzT_g7vTX2cG2I-8mlKbtR4to.jpg (http://www.slide.com/s/wPWS-6o9oz9cGSfggEVOLttNEl3JO5b6?referrer=hlnk)

I'm afraid that this particular "narrow-minded old d_i_c_k-head" thinks that your photos support what I said I think happened. You were coming up the hill around the gentle right-hander in the background - you squeezed a bit hard on the throttle, the tail stepped out and then you over-corrected and spun back the other way into the gutter and busted the steering arm and the rear control arm.... Easily done.
Tell me - did the RHF wheel hit the gutter? I bet it did - that's when the steering arm broke - not before. And to leave what looks like almost 100m of skid marks in the wet........sure........only 60kph......Sorry old mate. This old dick-head thinks you are trying to kid yourself.

[italiano23q]

[/quote]I'm afraid that this particular "narrow-minded old d_i_c_k-head" thinks that your photos support what I said I think happened. You were coming up the hill around the gentle right-hander in the background - you squeezed a bit hard on the throttle, the tail stepped out and then you over-corrected and spun back the other way into the gutter and busted the steering arm and the rear control arm.... Easily done.
Tell me - did the RHF wheel hit the gutter? I bet it did - that's when the steering arm broke - not before. And to leave what looks like almost 100m of skid marks in the wet........sure........only 60kph......Sorry old mate. This old dick-head thinks you are trying to kid yourself.[/QUOTE]



im only here askin about a problem now im getting slammed and called a bullshit artist if u look at the photo the skid marks start on the straight bit of road not around the corner i have more fotos but cbf posting them all and its not 100meters of skid mark i measured it out its about 40m mate the backhand side swung to the other side of the road becaus e the steering wheel locked up to the left. and it was the RHR wheel that hit the gutter the front wheel didnt touch at all and its buckled in

[Holden Man]

I thought that too when I saw that second pic (curve, hill etc) , Speeding or trying to hang the arse a little and then overcorrection for it to swing that way and that far.

[R Dirty 3]

I tend to believe that the part broke at the point of impact. It would be very rare for a part (especially a suspension arm) to just break.
That road doesnt look in a bad condition so you can rule out hitting a pot hole and breaking the arm. IF it did break or come off or something like that, you would have had some sort of warning sign like a shimmy or silimar from the rear.
I would also tend to think that at 60kph the car would have stopped a lot sooner than the distance it did. There are several things that make me think there is more to this story than your telling....but thats up to you.

Also, how did you get on the wrong side of the road, and manage to over correct it the other way if a suspension component had failed?

[seldo]

im only here askin about a problem now im getting slammed and called a bullshit artist if u look at the photo the skid marks start on the straight bit of road not around the corner i have more fotos but cbf posting them all and its not 100meters of skid mark i measured it out its about 40m mate the backhand side swung to the other side of the road becaus e the steering wheel locked up to the left. and it was the RHR wheel that hit the gutter the front wheel didnt touch at all and its buckled in
I'm not "slamming" you nor am I calling you a "bullshit artist" - but I do think you are mistaken. It's more than just coincidence that both front and rear wheels have exactly the same angle on them (probably caused by sliding sideways into the gutter). Also - in the highly unlikely case that a steering arm did break, why would it break on the unloaded side, and since it is unloaded, it would have little steering effect on the car since the majority of the steering action would come from the loaded side.
I remain unconvinced, and I suspect so would your insurance company. 'Fess up and cop it on the chin - you gave it a bit of welly, lost it, spun and hit the gutter - end of story. Learn from it.
NMODH :)

[zorro]

italiano I'd like to give benefit of the doubt here but the few things dont add up;

1. from where I can see the skid marks showing you were well on the wrong side of the road when the car began to slide backwards at a 45degree andgle towards the gutter - ALLTHOUGH 'if' the front end suffered some form of part failure this could have been the reason for being so far out of shape on that side of the road.

2. The angle of the wheels suggest a greater impact than what you say. I have been driving long enough and been in numerous vehicles in my younger years to know what cars do when they slide.

3. The road shown is uphill and has a good enough camber to come up and hang the arse out, in my younger days I would have done it. With how the road is cambered though the rear could have come out a bit too far and coming back over the top can easily put you out of shape big time, by then once going backwards ABS will do sfa.

4. Got any pics of this steering arm?

[mac06]

So if you have a suspension failure, and then plough through the front of a house, will they cover all the repairs except the suspension component that caused the accident, or will the whole claim be voided outright?????

Maybe what he meant was that if your car is not kept in a roadworthy condition, then the insurer has the right to void your claim. In the above scenario the whole claim would be voided. Same principle as if you were DD.

[HOTSV8]

Don't often see tyre marks on the road if the road was wet ?????

[LooneyR8]

Looking at the photos nobody has asked why the marks (both LH & RH) start on the wrong side of the road.

If failure was the cause, the skid would have started in the left hand lane, with a snaking skid and then going into an arc. This has been shown when overcorrecting whether due to too much speed or failure on many a car show and even motorsport.

Also if suspension failure occured, I find it hard that the laden side (RHF) did not collapse more severly under such heavy load. Physics 101 guys.

Looking at it from a purely physics problem, the car should have mounted the gutter if it was continuing in the arc as suggested by the skid marks. That it didnt, it would lead me to believe that as more speed was washed off and more control came back to the driver he managed to park gently into the gutter causing the damage to both RHF/R suspension.

[C4B]

A classic tank slapper....... Even the old duck off Murder She Wrote could see it. :)

[mac06]

NMODH :)

:bow::bow::rofl::rofl: I like that Seldo.

It never ceases to amaze me how many people post about their incidents and try to shift the blame. It's never a simple case of "I was doing something stupid and lost control". We've all done stupid things, admit it and get on with life. It seems whenever the police and fines are involved then people try to justify themselves to try get out of paying the fine. This case looks no different to me, or the police for that matter, otherwise you wouldn't have got the fine in the first place.

[Devil CV8]

the backhand side swung to the other side of the road becaus e the steering wheel locked up to the left. and it was the RHR wheel that hit the gutter the front wheel didnt touch at all and its buckled in
From many years of driving like AYDH and now as a fully fledged member of ODH your photos show this.
The sequence of events:
1. you were driving towards the camera and were driving too fast for the corner (wether or not it is intentional only you can answer)
2. the back stepped out and you overcorrected. You are now on the wrong side of the road, still sliding (this is the first pic)
3. car hits gutter causing damage to front and rear suspension.
4. not being able to admit you screwed the pooch, you see suspension damage and try and convince everyone that caused it.

police didn't believe it, people here don't believe it and neither will the insurance company.

Just be fortunate there wasn't a car going the other way or else the police may have taken an even closer look at the crash

[Vulture]

I'm afraid that this particular "narrow-minded old d_i_c_k-head" thinks that your photos support what I said I think happened. You were coming up the hill around the gentle right-hander in the background - you squeezed a bit hard on the throttle, the tail stepped out and then you over-corrected and spun back the other way into the gutter and busted the steering arm and the rear control arm.... Easily done.
Tell me - did the RHF wheel hit the gutter? I bet it did - that's when the steering arm broke - not before. And to leave what looks like almost 100m of skid marks in the wet........sure........only 60kph......Sorry old mate. This old dick-head thinks you are trying to kid yourself.

:yup: Have to agree Seldo. Flame suit on.

[LooneyR8]

From many years of driving like AYDH and now as a fully fledged member of ODH your photos show this.
The sequence of events:
1. you were driving towards the camera and were driving too fast for the corner (wether or not it is intentional only you can answer)
2. the back stepped out and you overcorrected. You are now on the wrong side of the road, still sliding (this is the first pic)
3. car hits gutter causing damage to front and rear suspension.
4. not being able to admit you screwed the pooch, you see suspension damage and try and convince everyone that caused it.

police didn't believe it, people here don't believe it and neither will the insurance company.

Just be fortunate there wasn't a car going the other way or else the police may have taken an even closer look at the crash

Didnt I already point out 2 and 3? :)

I am also a member of ODH....great club if you survive to the age...:nyuk:

[mickeyVX350]

I have had a pretty outlandish and true one happen to me, but this one screams bullsh!t...

1. Right hand arm snaps at speed, wheel should pull the car to the right.
2. If one wheel was on lock and the other was thoretically in control, one skid should be wider than the other simply because it'd be pushed sideways.
3. Slowing the car from 60 shouldn't be an issue, however, applying the brake would re-emphasise point 1 as FR wheel was slowing / skidding and would turn it out and pull the car right

[WOMBIE]

I think you're flogging a dead horse here italiano23q :whip: Fwiw i hope you get your ride fixed up without too much drama.Oh and whilst it seems life sucks hardcore now,you'll get to a point in the future where you'll look back and say "how fortunate was i that night" .........trust me you will ;)

[Vulture]

You might honestly think that something broke but time to face up to the fact that it is extremely unlikely...

[macca33]

I think Seldo hit the nail on the head. Coming up the hill into a mild right curve, too much testosterone, rear-end broke loose into over steer, steering over correction and sharp off-throttle causes over steer in the opposite direction, then a continuous 4-wheel slide, whilst rotating, into the roadside kerbing. Classic prang that occurs all of the time - luckily nobody was hurt.

Cheers,

Macca

[italiano23q]

look wat im sayig the car didnt loose it around the corner it happend on the straight part of the road the pics look deciveing its all straght where my car ha spun thats y im saying sumthing went wrong the steering wheel locked on its own and i dunno wats caused it and its kicked out on the wrong side of the road did a 180 and stopped facing the wrong way.... the road was a little oily from light rain but i no if i had made a driving error i wouldnt have posted it on here.

i got the car on the jack and turned the wheel full lock to the right after and the right hand wheel is still facing in its completly buckled

i no every1 thinks im not telling the full story but i wouldnt put myself or my car in a position to damage it im not made out of money and wouldnt risk it especially in double demerit weekend

but you can think wat u like

[macca33]

Mate, if it had 'lost-it' on the straight part and the steering had failed, then commonsense tells us that the car would've understeered and gone straight-on, into the kerb, not crossed the road in a classic oversteer.

Either way, I'm glad you're okay and good luck with the insurance and the coppers.

Cheers

[italiano23q]

but what i dont get the steering wheel had spun to the left and locked up and i tried to correct it but was locked and wouldnt move the road was a little wet which i assume cause it to do a 180

[seldo]

but what i dont get the steering wheel had spun to the left and locked up and i tried to correct it but was locked and wouldnt move the road was a little wet which i assume cause it to do a 180 I can undertand you thinking the steering had "locked". But I suspect that the tail stepped out, you panicked and clamped on the picks (a very common reaction) which immediately means that (if it's a manual) the engine stalls and you have no power steering so it "feels" as if the steering has locked. You keep digging yourself into a hole here my man.
NMODH #1

[VX2VESS]

if the front hit it will have marks on the rim.

it is possible for anything to break, possible.

[macca_779]

if the front hit it will have marks on the rim.

it is possible for anything to break, possible.

my thoughts exactly. Plus have a look at the camber of the front wheel. The OP noted that the front wheel did not hit the curb.. Hmm even if the steering tie rod did break there is no reason why the car would have any more positive camber placed on it without breaking either the control arm, or the whole bloody strut.

Sorry buddy but I call bullshit and I too have done and seen alot of stupid shit done in cars so I know full well how these things play out. Your only 21 mate. The majority of this forum have been around longer than you and we aren't all saint's. We know how this game rolls.

Lets see some pics of the strut assembly. If the Tie rod is bent and broken, which I'm 99% it will be, it will confirm our suspicions. If its straight and simply sheered.. Well I'm pretty sure it wont be.

[italiano23q]

yeh but what im trying to say is it didnt happen on the around the curve its on a straight road thats what im trying to say to you ppl but i dnt think any1 gts it through their head....STRAIGHT ROAD..

[seldo]

yeh but what im trying to say is it didnt happen on the around the curve its on a straight road thats what im trying to say to you ppl but i dnt think any1 gts it through their head....STRAIGHT ROAD..Your own photos show that the car was already well out of control BEFORE it came to the straight bit, otherwise the skid marks would still be on the correct side of the road.... Your own photos also show that the front wheel is bent into about a 10deg of pos camber which can only happen by a lateral impact. If this accident was a result of the steering arm breaking without lateral impact, you would have standard camber on the front only with some toe in/out. The steering arm only controls the wheel's toe-in/out, not camber.......:doh: Like I said before - keep digging - you're getting in deeper....
NMODH#1

[Evman]

If the R/H (drivers side) steering arm broke then the R/H wheel would have dug in as if was doing a hard right turn I would have thought. If anything, this would make you go right. I find it hard to see how it'd move the R/H wheel forward to cause the L/H spin. Unless... The loss of the R/H wheel, plus a serious slip of the hands caused the L/H side to smack against the stops. But in this instance both wheels would be splayed outwards...

Metallurgists can easily look at a fractured part and tell you whether it broke "on impact" (ie. suddenly), or if there was a fracture and worsened over time. It's even fast, as all the do it look under a microscope. This kind of part would almost certainly never just pop, there'd have to be a fracture that worsened.

I lost control of my car in the wet back in the day, got a good fright and smacked a sign with my rear right door. Shit happens, but you really do learn from it :)

[italiano23q]

ok doesnt matter now neway but for insurance reason am i just better off saying car lost control cause of the wet road being wet around a bend to be covered, will insurance check the policce report also cause i dunno wat the officer wrote he didnt tell me he believes i was speeding but he cannot prove that as he wasnt there so wats the best way to go with insurance now

[Devil CV8]

ok doesnt matter now neway but for insurance reason am i just better off saying car lost control cause of the wet road being wet around a bend to be covered, will insurance check the policce report also cause i dunno wat the officer wrote he didnt tell me he believes i was speeding but he cannot prove that as he wasnt there so wats the best way to go with insurance now
simple, because there is a police report with your statement you are restricted in what you tell the insurance company. They will check and if your story is totally different the claim will be declined.
best suggestion is change your wording slightly "it felt as though something snapped. after coming to a halt I looked and saw the control arm was broken"
Even that will get a please explain from the insurance company.

I'd also suggest getting this thread deleted as it won't help you if someone from the insurance company reads it.

[GPT]

Like I said before - keep digging - you're getting in deeper....
NMODH#1
Can you see China yet?

[chillicatqld]

For insurance reasons I would quickly learn to punctuate and structure a sentence so that the person in the office can understand what the hell you are writing. Unless of course you send them a SMS... :)

[craigus]

I hit a pot hole once in a lowered CRX with really stiff suspension. Busted something in the front left and the wheel locked and started wobbling. Whilst the car was pulling to the left, i could still drive it in to a side street and park it. This was in the wet on a shit section of Victoria Rd. If a 900kg 20year old crx doesn't spin around, i don't see how a 4 year old 1600kg car will.
but hey, perhaps you're just the first. If memory serves me correctly, you had your car worked on at Marrano's so my advice is to take it back there and ask them. ;-)

[gmh308]

P Plater driving a V8? Am I missing something? Thought that was a no no in New South.

And if the steering arm or something else failed, it will clearly show signs of being fractured already. i.e. where it broke will show old and new metal. New metal where it finally broke off, old metal where it had been fractured for some time. If it is one clean break, then ?

[halfarm35]

I did the same thing about 6 months ago. Came out of a corner in the wet in my Nissan Skyline. Stepped it out a bit far and over-corrected, lucky I managed to slide up a driveway, but even then it still bend the rear end.

Not to sure how the Commodore setup at the backend, but on the Nissan it was only the lower suspension arm that needed replacing, it cost me $70 for a part, and took 30 minutes to change over. Might not be worth claiming insurance on, by time you factor in excess and the increase in premiums?

[Blown 540]

Can you see China yet?


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[Bravotwozero]

Yeah that's it, kick him while he is down. Some people really need to find something better to do... :1peek:

[R Dirty 3]

I did the same thing about 6 months ago. Came out of a corner in the wet in my Nissan Skyline. Stepped it out a bit far and over-corrected, lucky I managed to slide up a driveway, but even then it still bend the rear end.

Not to sure how the Commodore setup at the backend, but on the Nissan it was only the lower suspension arm that needed replacing, it cost me $70 for a part, and took 30 minutes to change over. Might not be worth claiming insurance on, by time you factor in excess and the increase in premiums?

I would say there is a lot more damage than first thought. Skyline's have very weak control arms so they bend quite easy...Holden parts are built alot stronger so they tend to break alot more each time as the damage transfers through each part. I would expect rear, Crossmember, arms, Hub (which is not avail until mid november), wheel bearing, plus youll need retainers etc. Front id say Strut (plus top mounts and bearing), knuckle, bearing/hub, lower arm, rack end, tie rod end, lower arm and quite possibly the crossmember (which will need new bolts and probably change castor bushes while your there).
Just my opinion but my experience would show that its common for those parts to bend and break.