Lowering VE SSV with teins, who has had it done?

[loudyeller]

I'm going to get my VE Ute fitted with Tein coilovers next week..Just wondering how many ppl out there have had them fitted and what they think also thigs to look out for...I have been alerted to the position of the holes that need to be drilled in the real tray liner.. Anyone else had any experiences with their VE's?

[mr ve ssv]

have them on a seden

they ride pretty nicely for a lowered car. much better ride than my cv8 which had springs and shocks.

not sure about any of the hole drilling and what not. had them installed by a suspension place.

[BlownLS7]

ive had them done,i didnt have the holes drilled,but the ride is good,fully adjustable,and better then shocks and springs. had them fitted at fulcrum,First class service
cheers

[diabolic]

Just had mine installed on my SS-V Ute yesterday.

Ride is good. I haven't even opened the back up yet, but I asked them about putting holes in the tray liner and they said yes they do that.

The book I received with the kit actually says they they should remove the liner and drill the holes in the tray only.. and "we do not recommend drilling holes in the tray liner, as unbolting the tray liner to gain access is easy enough" .. Screw that, I'd rather just have the holes in the liner personally.

Cheers,
Dan

[igniton]

i dont know if the V8 ute is as heavy in the front as the the sedan...but i could not stand the bottoming out of the std coil spring in the tein shock setup for the VE V8 ...the banging on small bumps was unbearable....so i fitted some king springs that are 325LB race springs & new bump stops...that fixed that problem and is now lovely to drive...if you are thinking of these tein coilovers for your VE V8 upgrade to this type of spring before you fit the STD tein coilover setup ..trust me it is needed....

[EXCESSV]

i have had the teins on my VE SSV sedan since the time they were available.
also upgraded the front springs to the higher spring rate Kings Race springs cold wound ones to help with understeer at the track.

smaller bumpstops were done at the time of the coilovers.
speak to fulcrum suspension in brisbane and they can supply, install, advice etc all ur needs on the Teins as they are the Aus distributor.

really depends on what you want to use the car for.

since the coilovers with upgraded front springs i have since done the Superpro void bushes, Superpro front castor rod bushes, whiteline front and rear adjustable sway bars, etc etc.....

[loudyeller]

i dont know if the V8 ute is as heavy in the front as the the sedan...but i could not stand the bottoming out of the std coil spring in the tein shock setup for the VE V8 ...the banging on small bumps was unbearable....so i fitted some king springs that are 325LB race springs & new bump stops...that fixed that problem and is now lovely to drive...if you are thinking of these tein coilovers for your VE V8 upgrade to this type of spring before you fit the STD tein coilover setup ..trust me it is needed....

I had read somewhere that they had to get special bump stops made up for them...Did they do that to your car? Are the king springs stiffer by much?

[Number55]

The Tein Kit comes with lowered bumpstops
But i dont know if ignition has gotten some differnt ones or not.

I personally am very happy with the teins, i have had the holes drilled in the tub liner. the grommets hide it well, and its just a liner anyway!

[diabolic]

The Tein Kit comes with lowered bumpstops
But i dont know if ignition has gotten some differnt ones or not.

I personally am very happy with the teins, i have had the holes drilled in the tub liner. the grommets hide it well, and its just a liner anyway!
Hey mate, the pic of your ute is what decided to make me get mine done ;)

Did you re-lower it yourself or did you head back to the blokes at WA Suspensions?

Cheers,
Dan

[Number55]

Hey Dan,

Stoked you liked the height.
I would still love to go further but its not practical....

I got the boys at WA suspension to do it. Great crew and awesome job.

Timmy

[diabolic]

Ah k

I had to drive up from Busso so I might see how difficult it is to adjust them with the tools they supplied.

Cheers
Dan

[Number55]

Lowering it will be easy Dan,
Do it yourself, just make sure you get a good wheel alighnment when its done

[loudyeller]

Number55 would you be able to put up some pics of your car..I still cant see anyones profiles yet.. would be good to see how ur car looks.. Do you have your teins set for a low ride hight? Im probaly going to run it mid way so it rides well around town and drop it for the track.. IS it much of a drama raising and lowering? I realize I will have to take the wheels off

[igniton]

I had read somewhere that they had to get special bump stops made up for them...Did they do that to your car? Are the king springs stiffer by much?

the new spring rate is perfect for the VE V8...it needed more than just shorter bump stops... here is the part # for the king springs..
springs are part #KPS-136...the spring is 200/65/8.5/325lb & the upgraded bump stop kit is #SPF1832K not shorter ...better ..you can purchase all you need from Fulcrum suspension...

[CLUBRED]

In BNE I will not take my car any where else other than Fulcrum there at Moorooka for suspension.

[loudyeller]

yeah thats where I was going to take it.. How much more are the king springs and the new bump stops?

[Oztrack Tuning]

My Teins are great. Incredible range of softness to hardness and plenty of ride height adjustment. I had mine fitted at Wholesale Suspension in Penrith a forum sponsor.

[Number55]

Number55 would you be able to put up some pics of your car..I still cant see anyones profiles yet.. would be good to see how ur car looks.. Do you have your teins set for a low ride hight? Im probaly going to run it mid way so it rides well around town and drop it for the track.. IS it much of a drama raising and lowering? I realize I will have to take the wheels off

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/vessvute/P6030518.jpg

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd306/vessvute/Lower1.jpg

Its set pretty low, i havnt adjusted them myself yet, i dont think its all that involved.
But you wanna try get it equal to the milimeter across the car

As you can tell the back settled a bit lower in the 1st shot compared to the 2nd.

I Still think a little bit more would be nice

[loudyeller]

Looks really good. How does it ride at that hight? Do you have the shocks set to soft? If I could have it that low and put the shocks to soft and it rides well I'd be stoked.. Thanks for posting the pics..:goodjob:

[Number55]

I'm really happy with how it rides.
I've had alot of very low cars and this is very comfortable. The shocks were all set hard. i still have the back hard but the front is just a little softer

[loudyeller]

Cheers thanks for the info..I will have to have a play when I get them done..Not long to go now.. What exhaust do you have on your ute?

[Number55]

Just Stock. Havent gotten that far yet

[6l ute]

there great had mine in for about a two weeks now. i was 50-50 on doing it to mine but now i dont think i will ever lower a car again without a set of these in it.

[loudyeller]

Thanks for all the replies..Im getting it done sometime this week when I can fit it in around work..I'll let you know what I think..6L ute did you get holes drilled in the tray? Also what settings do you run it on?

Cheers

[6l ute]

Mine is a sedan just have an old sign in name lol should get that changed one day. Well when I picked the car up it was around 6 down from hardest and I was pretty happy with that in the way it handled and the ride. Took the olds and girl friend in the car for a drive few days later so I set them to the softest setting to see if they could pick up any differents, ride was so close to stock it wasn’t funny really smooth and soft even over a few ruff parts of the road. Saying that it didn’t perform as good which you have to expect. At the moment they are around 3 down from hardest all round as I took it for a blast around the hills last sat, haven’t driven it since but boy can it turn now totally different car, but ride is very hard on these kind of settings (very fun but). Im sure there is other guys on here with them in there car would be good to hear from them as to there settings and comments.

[loudyeller]

Just got my car back from getting the Teins put on...They set them at 8 front and back..Not really impressed with the ride that hard..I hope when I soften it off they wont be so rough.. Wasnt really impressed with Fulcrum..They didnt even look at me when I came in..Pretty much grunted at me.. Are you supposed to get a book or something to tell you about adjusting them??..I didnt get anything..They gave me the impressing that they set it and it was supposed to stay like that.. I asked to have holes drilled in the liner but they wouldnt do it... Any help on which way to turn the shock adjuster would be much appreciated...Will post some pics when I get a chance and give her a wash..We have been getting a bit of rain up here latley..

Just been down for a play...Seems that they didnt set the fronts to 8 like they told me but set them to full hard..I wound them off to soft and it was unbelievably better... Well the front was anyway..Still have to get in and change the backs.. Anyone pulled the tray liner out..looks like a big job.. Wish they had drilled the holles like I wanted!

[jonnyd1986]

Hey all, I've got the Tein coilovers on my SS-V. They are great. I'm looking at getting the EDFC (in car adjustable via LCD). Is WA Suspensions doing them yet and for how much? I heard it'll cost about $1400 supplied and fitted.

Anyone got the EDFC for the Teins yet?


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[6l ute]

Just got my car back from getting the Teins put on...They set them at 8 front and back..Not really impressed with the ride that hard..I hope when I soften it off they wont be so rough.. Wasnt really impressed with Fulcrum..They didnt even look at me when I came in..Pretty much grunted at me.. Are you supposed to get a book or something to tell you about adjusting them??..I didnt get anything..They gave me the impressing that they set it and it was supposed to stay like that.. I asked to have holes drilled in the liner but they wouldnt do it... Any help on which way to turn the shock adjuster would be much appreciated...Will post some pics when I get a chance and give her a wash..We have been getting a bit of rain up here latley..

Just been down for a play...Seems that they didnt set the fronts to 8 like they told me but set them to full hard..I wound them off to soft and it was unbelievably better... Well the front was anyway..Still have to get in and change the backs.. Anyone pulled the tray liner out..looks like a big job.. Wish they had drilled the holles like I wanted!



You should have got given a pack with a book that explains every thing you might ever need, plus the spanners and little Alan key o and a few nice stickers. Fully soft front and back wouldn’t ride to hard for any one on here I tend to think

[loudyeller]

I went back to Fulcrum after work and asked for the manual, but they said they had thrown it out! They are going to order me a new one.. I got the spanners, the allan key and the stickers.. Not sure if I will put the stickers on yet..The badge one is pretty cool but there is already so many badges on the back of my ute it might look cluttered.. I have set the fronts back to all the way soft..rides well but will be much better when I get to the backs and soften them up, then I will know if getting them was fully worth it..Will try to do it tonight...Thanks for all the responses..Every one has been a great help..:bow:

Just a few quick pics of the set up..

Front:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein1.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein4.jpg
Rear:
IMG]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein2.jpg[/IMG]

Rear:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein2.jpg

[TYREFRIAR]

Apart from the King part No for the front coils upgrade on the teins, there is also a range of tien coils available for the struts, they are in the Tein catalogue, and Fulcrum stock many of them.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

I went back to Fulcrum after work and asked for the manual, but they said they had thrown it out! They are going to order me a new one.. I got the spanners, the allan key and the stickers.. Not sure if I will put the stickers on yet..The badge one is pretty cool but there is already so many badges on the back of my ute it might look cluttered.. I have set the fronts back to all the way soft..rides well but will be much better when I get to the backs and soften them up, then I will know if getting them was fully worth it..Will try to do it tonight...Thanks for all the responses..Every one has been a great help..:bow:

Just a few quick pics of the set up..

Front:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein1.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein4.jpg


Rear:
IMG]http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein2.jpg[/IMG]

Rear:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm116/2811pete/tein2.jpg



looks like they don't lower it as far as it will go
on mine there is no thread showing at the bottom of the tube i have 100 mil ground clearance :)that was until i put the 3" system on :bawl if you wont to drill the holes in the liner it is very easy as it is only thin plastic i did mine after fulcrum fu*&^^k it up
i run mine on 10 from hardest on the back and 12 from hardest on the front
great ride round town:) but will bottom out on the hiway on the front (even on hardest setting ):bawl:so will be geting stiffer springs fitted on the front before i go down to bris again nearly lost my false teeth last time :)there is a few post on here about drilling the holes in the liner with measurements



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[loudyeller]

Just spent the day, giving the ute a good drive.. Totally unimpressed with my new setup..So bad I have a sore back.. I have the fronts set to full soft and the backs, well I have no idea but I'd say they are set to full hard.. Yesterday I pulled the tray liner out to adjust them but found there was no hole to access them as I was told there was by Fulcrum.. So Cant get to them..They gave me a photocopy of the instalation page and it said that you need to drill the hole before the struts are put in.. So looks like I have to go back again:vpo:.. I cant beleive how rough they are.. I thought my last car was rough but this is insane..Turned a car I didnt want to get out of into something that I dont want to go near. If it doesnt improve when the rears are on soft Im going to put the stock suspention back in.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

I cant beleive how rough they are.. I thought my last car was rough but this is insane..Turned a car I didnt want to get out of into something that I dont want to go near. If it doesnt improve when the rears are on soft Im going to put the stock suspention back in.[/QUOTE]


WOW :confused:
i can run my rears on hard or soft and it doesn't make all that much diff
THE FRONTS on hard is horrible though
are you turning them the wright way ?
all the way clock ways and then back 16 clicks is softest setting don't go aney more as you can damage the valving

[loudyeller]

yeah I sure am...They are 16 clicks off hard on the front... The whole reason why I got them was beacause I wanted a soft ride...

[igniton]

here is my VE SS sedan with the king springs and different bump stops front and rear ...the ride is fantastic now and it has 22" wheels...you should have taken my advice mate...
now you have to start again....i also have the tein coilover shocks in my 350Z with king springs fitted...both these cars handle and ride beautifully..
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03378.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z226/ignition005/DSC03528.jpg

[loudyeller]

Yeah looks like Ive wasted a whole lot of money..I had a ride in a VE ute and a sedan that was lowered with Pedders and shocks..Rode really well.. But I thought the Teins would be better after reading so many times and being told by Fulcrum that it would ride close to stock... Well you just never know..This whole ordeal has put me off lowering the ute again...Not going to muck around with it any more I think..I plan to do a lot of long distance driving with it.. Cant imaging driving like that to Melbourne or Cairns..Just drove back from Redcliffe and I couldnt wait to get out of it!! I am really dissapointed that they charge so much for such a poor product..

[6l ute]

i really feel for you as i was 50-50 on this product as well but i carnt be any more happy with mine. All i can say is on hard setting it will ride really hard soften the backs up then make a call im sure you will see the differents

[bwhinnen]

I've got Tein flex in my WRX and can honestly say that on full soft the ride is better than the stock setup was, they usually sit on about 6 clicks front and 5 clicks back for most driving (from soft) and the ride is fine. These are also still on Japanese valving so alot harsher than anything Fulcrum would put out here in Australia (and better than the Super Street model you get here). I find it a little concerning that you find them so harsh. I'd make sure that they are indeed set up correctly and set to full soft (or close to) and give them another go. Which Fulcrum store are you going to? The one in Stafford is generally pretty good.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

YES i would go to another fulcrum store and talk to them and see if you can get a ride in another ute with them in
some thing must be wrong
mine rides a lot softer and smoother then stock HSV

[loudyeller]

Had the ute back to Fulcrum yesterday..Had them cut the holes in the tray so I can adjust the shocks..Have them now full soft front and rear..Also had the front height raised 5mm to try and stop the banging.. Havent had it out for a good drive yet but.. In the wash up so far..I have a ute that sits nearly as high as it was stock handles only a bit better than stock but still bottoms out and hits the bump stops all the time...So my $2500 investment has still yet to prove itself.. I want to make them a bit harder, but will have to see how it goes..I'm driving down to Indy tommorow night till Monday:headbang::yahoo: so hopefully I can have a bit of a good go with it.. Have only really driven it home from Fulcrum so far..... Will post how I go when I get back from the coast...

[igniton]

loudyeller i gave you the answer to your problem before you even fitted them....it is way back in post #5...you car will still be the same mate...why didn't you get the king springs fitted to the shocks before you had them fitted....change the springs and bump stops ..all will be good...

[loudyeller]

Had a great time down at Indy..The car drove great down and back..Had it on full soft and was pretty good..Still hits the bump stops really hard sometimes...Ive wound it onto 9 clicks from hard.. still pretty rough around town but its as good as its going to get with out forking out more ... Ignition, how much did the king springs and the new bump stops set you back?