New Camaro prices

[ti0350]

Prices for the 2010 Camaro have been released in states..
These prices are without options, interestingly there are 2 V8's the auto gets L99 with dod rated at 400bhp, the manual gets the LS3 rated at 422 bhp
Camaro LS - $22,245
Camaro 1LT - $23,880
Camaro 2LT - $26,580
Camaro 1SS - $30,245
Camaro 2SS - $33,430
I'll be interested to see what the prices are here if it ever makes it here..

[Goatie]

that places it around G8 money doesnt it? :nyuk:

[SCiFiRE]

a bit cheaper than G8 i think, but close.

I think if we get it it will be positioned with HSV, up in the $60-$75k mark, considering comes with an LS3.

[Strick]

i hope it makes it to aus, was very disapointed when i heard the challenger wouldnt make it to aus

[Pickles]

a bit cheaper than G8 i think, but close.

I think if we get it it will be positioned with HSV, up in the $60-$75k mark, considering comes with an LS3.

That's a pretty broad priceband!!--I'd say $70/75k--any lower & it'll take big sales off HSV, which would not please either Holden or HSV.
Cheers, Pickles.

[SteveK]

No word on the convertible version?

As much as it comes in an LS3 in the states, it might come in LS2 form locally, so could theoretically fall into a cheaper (Monaro) price range.

[SS Enforcer]

No word on the convertible version?

As much as it comes in an LS3 in the states, it might come in LS2 form locally, so could theoretically fall into a cheaper (Monaro) price range.

The ls2 has been buried mate Ls3 is the replacement motor.

cheers

[Vulture]

Call me a cynic, but I think it will be priced closer to $80K in Australia (unfortunately).

[gasguz]

Call me a cynic, but I think it will be priced closer to $80K in Australia (unfortunately).

Yeah they will tear us a new one over pricing landed here in Aus if it makes it. Be worth buying 1 OS & shipping it over here pending on the currency rates.

Sexy car though

[toey]

id love to be wrong but the wife pointed out to me a few weeks ago in some newspaper that they didnt intend to release the camaro in australia. id love to see it on aussie roads

[gmh308]

Interesting pricing.

Would be nice to see the Camaro here WITHOUT a premium attached.

Heard during the week that GM has rushed 4 cyl turbo test Camaros running around to get the 4cyl engines in as soon as possible, and that maybe the top end V8 will be dropped. dont know if I buy that though.

And then the price of gas has plummeted in the US and will probably head below $3 next week.

[BAM*BAM]

A little off topic, but I saw a new Camaro on Bay street in Port Melbourne yesterday. It was slightly disguised in the black and white crap they use. It looked like a very big car next to my monaro, and I must say, a lot uglier. Really yank looking. No doubt it will sell well here, but it doesn't compare with the beautiful curves of our monaro's here (of course I am biased also)

[RobboXR6T]

At the current exchange rate the Camaro would be $1,756,000.45 + GST :)

[TYREFRIAR]

MOTOR quoted the camaro will be in the 80-90k bracket when released here.

I will be keeping my VE SSV ute, if they are, as much as I got it as a fill in until the camaro was arriving.

[Leilani7]

Oh well counts me out , I would love one









Goes off to buy lotto ticket.................

[LS1TOY]

A little off topic, but I saw a new Camaro on Bay street in Port Melbourne yesterday. It was slightly disguised in the black and white crap they use. It looked like a very big car next to my monaro, and I must say, a lot uglier. Really yank looking. No doubt it will sell well here, but it doesn't compare with the beautiful curves of our monaro's here (of course I am biased also)

i saw this too on the monash on thursday, one thing it didnt strike me as being a lhd? also agree the monaro has some really nice lines!
Jake,

[Vulture]

Yeah, I bought the GTS as a fill prior to Camaro as well but it's getting a bit steep in price. The new Nissan 370z is shaping up to be pretty interesting as well...

[Excellent]

MOTOR quoted the camaro will be in the 80-90k bracket when released here.

I will be keeping my VE SSV ute, if they are, as much as I got it as a fill in until the camaro was arriving.

If that's true then it is obvious GM Holden aren't interested in sales.

At 80-90k it is more pricey than the forthcoming CTS except one's traditionally an affordable, popular sports car, the other a luxury car in its home market.

[Jac001]

If that's true then it is obvious GM Holden aren't interested in sales.

At 80-90k it is more pricey than the forthcoming CTS except one's traditionally an affordable, popular sports car, the other a luxury car in its home market.

Firstly this car is a niche' vehicle, It is not expected to sell thousands per month.

Secondly there is a big fear that the camero will only really appeal to those that would of bought a HSV/Holden anyway so it risks cannibalizing existing sales.

I suspect that the camero will be in the HSV range and priced accordingly. Eg $80K+

On the same note, the closest compete would be the crossfire that starts at $70k for a v6 http://www.chrysler.com.au/crossfire/pricing.html

What other large v6/v8 coupes are sold in australia?

[Excellent]

Firstly this car is a niche' vehicle, It is not expected to sell thousands per month.

Secondly there is a big fear that the camero will only really appeal to those that would of bought a HSV/Holden anyway so it risks cannibalizing existing sales.

I suspect that the camero will be in the HSV range and priced accordingly. Eg $80K+

On the same note, the closest compete would be the crossfire that starts at $70k for a v6 http://www.chrysler.com.au/crossfire/pricing.html

What other large v6/v8 coupes are sold in australia?

Funny that. I thought HSVs were also niche cars. I always wondered what the 'Special' meant in it's name. It must mean something other than niche. :1peek:

[Vulture]

Regardless of how good this car is it is still deeply insulting to Australians for it to be priced so high.

[Jac001]

Funny that. I thought HSVs were also niche cars. I always wondered what the 'Special' meant in it's name. It must mean something other than niche. :1peek:

HSV is a niche brand, I am not sure sure what you are trying to say sorry?

By releasing the Camaro who is the target market?

Which are the NEW customers that it will attract to the GM brand?

The whole point of bringing the camaro is to increase brand awareness and ultimately increase sales for GM over the long term.


Regardless of how good this car is it is still deeply insulting to Australians for it to be priced so high.

Can you explain?

[Excellent]

HSV is a niche brand, I am not sure sure what you are trying to say sorry?


So you are contradicting yourself. Niche brands sell in low volumes. However, HSV sell 4-5000 Commodore based sedans per year.

Camaro is a volume car, not a niche product in its home market, so why should it be any different when it lands here? I don't buy the view that it should be priced above HSV prices to give them some sales protection.

As I said, Holden seem disinterested in selling it, if priced at $80K.

[Jac001]

So you are contradicting yourself. Niche brands sell in low volumes. However, HSV sell 4-5000 Commodore based sedans per year.

Camaro is a volume car, not a niche product in its home market, so why should it be any different when it lands here? I don't buy the view that it should be priced above HSV prices to give them some sales protection.

As I said, Holden seem disinterested in selling it, if priced at $80K.

4-5k cars in a 1 million market is a niche brand :)

In australia the Camaro will not be a volume car, it was never intended to be. It will be something that is marketed as special, aimed and increasing brand awareness.

Even in the US the Camaro will be a niche vehicle, and sell in simlar numbers to the G8 (another niche product) ~ 2k-3k/month (in a market of 14-16million). And you will probably find that with the financial criss and recession in the US that the camaro won't last more than 2-3 years before the plug is pulled on it too.

There was an article in the wall st Journal about the Pontiac G8 being a sales failure in the US, due to not being able to sell 1 per dealer per month.



Australia does not have many large coupes with 6 and V8 engines in our market palce. we don't have corvettes, dodge challengers , or ford mustangs.

So where will it sit in the market place? What are its competitors?

(The ones i can think of like the chrysler crossfire and bmw Z4 are in the $80-90k mark.)

I expect that the camaro will take the place of the HSV coupe', and be priced accordingingly.

[SchrgdVSV6]

Regardless of how good this car is it is still deeply insulting to Australians for it to be priced so high.
Given our weaker dollar, be prepared for a huge insult. Maybe by the time it actually comes here (2010?) things may have changed (unlikely).

Although its funny to see people (in the ford thread) complaining about the tarrif dropping from 10% to 5% and killing the local market, and here we are all wanting a cheap imported vehicle from the US. We cant have it both ways people!

[SCiFiRE]

That's a pretty broad priceband!!--I'd say $70/75k--any lower & it'll take big sales off HSV, which would not please either Holden or HSV.
Cheers, Pickles.

yeah i meant 70-75k

[1HotSSV]

No word on the convertible version?

I saw an article the other day that said the convertible wouldn't be out in the US until 2010.

[Excellent]

4-5k cars in a 1 million market is a niche brand :)

In australia the Camaro will not be a volume car, it was never intended to be. It will be something that is marketed as special, aimed and increasing brand awareness.


How could GM increase awareness if it sells only a few hundred a year? It's doomed to fail with numbers that low.

Mercedes would sell more C-class coupes than GM would sell Camaros here. How insulting is that to GM enthusiasts who aren't into HSVs?

And I beg to differ about HSV being a niche brand. They're very common on our roads now that they sell at 5000 units annually. HSVs are now just hotted up Commodores now that there is no Monaro/GTO. Camaro is also 'Commodore based' but why distance it from HSV if only to protect HSV sales? Let the buyers decide what's best for them, I reckon.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

HSV might have a varent or it all so do you think ?

[Metal]

HSV might have a varent or it all so do you think ?


Well, considering the top o' the range Camaro model already has an LS3, it might be unlikely. but hey, it's possible that one will be the HSV version...... that is assuming we even get it at all:confused:

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

prices
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http://www.chevrolet.com/camaro/pdf/2010+Camaro+Order.pdf

axel tramp a thing of the past on the new camaro

Power HopThis is an ongoing log from the engineering staff on the development of the new Camaro. Entries will be added as new events take place.
Axle Tramp
What is "power hop" or "axle tramp"? There isn't a short answer to this question in technical terms but, in the real-world sense, it's an annoying oscillation of the drive wheels (thumping vibration) that occurs when you're trying to impress your friends with a burnout.
The end result of severe power hop is giving up on ever achieving a decent 0–60 time and never being able to put a pair of black stripes down Woodward Avenue in August.
In technical terms, power hop or axle tramp is the excitation of the driveline (prop shaft, differential, and drive axles) causing the rear suspension to be excited into resonance. The technical answer to how we combat this problem can include many factors but, in the end, we need to balance the frequency of the rear suspension in its "hop/tramp" mode and the torsional stiffness of the driveline components. The problem with doing these two things is that they tend to drive the cost and mass of the driveline components far beyond its requirements. There should be a better way to do this, because the customer won't necessarily see any advantages; in fact, the extra mass will negatively effect fuel economy, throttle response, and performance.
A Nice Little Secret
For those of you who have read about the new ZR-1 Corvette (very limited availability in late summer 2008), you may have noticed some obscure mentions of the wizardry within the driveline system to improve launch feel, the Asymmetric Drive Axles. What are they? Simply put, one axle has a larger diameter than the opposite axle.
The mechanics of how this works are presently a nice, little GM engineering secret, but it's safe to say that the development that took place on the ZR-1 has been adapted to the Camaro project and will be introduced when the car is launched.
So is power hop on Camaro a thing of the past? That's the plan!
— Andrew D. Holmes

[Shulkor]

yeah i meant 70-75k

Im tipping its gona be around 100k+ thats my guess if it was only 70-80k as said earlyer would eat into sales of hsv's.

[The_Plague]

Typical, cheap as shit over there, like passing a kidney stone the size of a bowling ball here.
Tariffs can be good, they keep our local industry going etc etc, but I am starting to think that along with customs and taxes etc etc, they make a cheaper car overseas unattainable here, its bullshit, if the local manufacturers can't match the performance for the same money, then tough shit, we deserve the right to buy the foreign product at a price that isn't screwing us.
Yes it would cost to get it converted to RHD and the cost of freight etc, but why must we be raped with all the excess's.
We have a big enough aftermarket industry to suggest that these vehicle would generate income for people in that area should they be allowed in.

[macca33]

Yep, but hang on a minute, the G8 and the Pontiac GTO were BOTH heaps cheaper, pound for pound over there in the US.

Holden/GM carry on about global markets and platforms, yet keep belting us up the date every time. I still find it absurd that we make a car over here and it costs us MORE to purchase it here, than it does to have it transported, then purchased in the US...:vpo:

Plus, the local car manufacturers here do get tariff protection. No matter whether it is being reduced now or in the future, it still exists....now, where's my anal lube?????? :soap:

Cheers,

Macca