Clubsport Whats the diff

[sub10]

Hi i am looking at buying a vx clubby and would like to know What is the difference from the standard clubsport and the R8 mod.

Thanks Tim

[NefariousLS1]

Trim and brakes are the2 big ones

[flyingdoc]

& harder suspension settings.

[sub10]

so just trim,wheels

same body kit for both?

[benniemc]

Yeah, pretty sure same body.

[The_Plague]

a few badges here and there, but mainly interior and in some cases wheels and brakes.

[shaunv8]

Clubby was based on an executive and R8 was based on the calais IIRC...Im sure someone will correct me if Im mistaken :-)

[kart_racer]

Clubby was based on an executive and R8 was based on the calais IIRC...Im sure someone will correct me if Im mistaken :-)

Was the case in the past, but they have their own spot on the production line now, so a Clubsport goes down the line as a Clubsport...

[shaunv8]

Was the case in the past, but they have their own spot on the production line now, so a Clubsport goes down the line as a Clubsport...

Hmmmm, there ya go. Mind you the OP is looking at the VX model, so thats in the past...:-)

[kart_racer]

Hmmmm, there ya go. Mind you the OP is looking at the VX model, so thats in the past...:-)

Haha must have missed that. Disregard my post!

Your information is correct as far as I know.

[Mikey]

Clubby was based on an executive and R8 was based on the calais IIRC...Im sure someone will correct me if Im mistaken :-)
I thought that the VT-VZ R8 was based on a Berlina because they only have a variable ratio power steering rack where as the Calais / Statesman has a "speed sensitive" variable ratio power steering which is an entirely different rack altogether.

[goofafidamedes]

I thought that the VT-VZ R8 was based on a Berlina because they only have a variable ratio power steering rack where as the Calais / Statesman has a "speed sensitive" variable ratio power steering which is an entirely different rack altogether.

The basis was only for the interior fitment, not for powertrain or suspension fitments.

VY-VZ were based on Berlina (I think the Berlina had single zone climate vs dual zone in Calais,) - but I think VT-VX it was Calais (all single zone climate and the full range of power adjustment for seats).

[gasguz]

a few badges here and there, but mainly interior and in some cases wheels and brakes.


In all cases the wheels & brakes were different to the standard clubsport. Also got different suspension, climate control, coulsen front seats, sound system with amp, subs & stacker & a few other little things here or there.

Considering the prices of the VX Clubby versus the price of a VX R8 are not that different these days, if you have the extra coin go the R8. They handle & stop better than a standard clubby & the Coulsens are still a great seat. I have had mine since new & still love it.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers

[james2]

In all cases the wheels & brakes were different to the standard clubsport. Also got different suspension, climate control, coulsen front seats, sound system with amp, subs & stacker & a few other little things here or there.

Considering the prices of the VX Clubby versus the price of a VX R8 are not that different these days, if you have the extra coin go the R8. They handle & stop better than a standard clubby & the Coulsens are still a great seat. I have had mine since new & still love it.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers

Spot on, still love my VX R8 .:goodjob:

[sub10]

Thanks for all the info guys just what i was looking for:goodjob:

Do you know of any good VX R8s for sale in W.A?

Thanks Tim

[iloveholden]

In all cases the wheels & brakes were different to the standard clubsport. Also got different suspension, climate control, coulsen front seats, sound system with amp, subs & stacker & a few other little things here or there.

Considering the prices of the VX Clubby versus the price of a VX R8 are not that different these days, if you have the extra coin go the R8. They handle & stop better than a standard clubby & the Coulsens are still a great seat. I have had mine since new & still love it.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers

Yep spot one mate.

I mate of mine has a red 02 VX R8 (A4) only done about 40 000km i think and has never been thrashed or dented or strached...will he sell it...never :lol:

[VYR8HSV]

Hey.
What sort of price range are you talking??
Manual, Auto???

Pete

[VTR8Clubby]

Thanks for all the info guys just what i was looking for:goodjob:

Do you know of any good VX R8s for sale in W.A?

Thanks Tim

I wish you luck. When I was looking over twelve months ago they were all really rough. I think I looked at every VT/VX for sale at the time. I ended up driving 2 1/2 hours down south to look at the VT R8 that I bought. Best advice I can give is to not rush into buying one. Have a good look around before you decide on one. If your patient you will find a nice one.

[goofafidamedes]

Look hard and long - I was looking at a few - test drove them, and was far from impressed. Various knocks in the suspension, suspect diffs to name a few problems. Ended up completely putting off the purchase altogether.

If you find a good one, buy it. The VX R8's (particularly S2's) are a very nice car. If you can stretch, get a VXII R8.

[sub10]

Thanks will have a good look around sum good buys over your side of oz.

VYR8HSV looking in the mid to low 20g

Hope to take a manual for a drive friday but leaning towards a auto so the misses can drive it too.Do you know of one for sale?

[VYR8HSV]

Thanks will have a good look around sum good buys over your side of oz.

VYR8HSV looking in the mid to low 20g

Hope to take a manual for a drive friday but leaning towards a auto so the misses can drive it too.Do you know of one for sale?

Not a VX R8 at this stage.
I have a VY R8 that i will need to sell soon due to a marrage split.
Less than 50,000ks, leather, 3.73 kaas diff, cam, Chipmaster custom maffless tune, Auto.
Even I would say that its not the best example that I have seen
But it is a daily driven car. August I was given a price of $30g from a car yard to buy it from me.
So I wouldnt ask anymore than that. Prob $28g would be the lowest I would go.
Picture of car in this post. Cheers Pete

Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=85732)

[sub10]

Thanks Pete will keep it in mind

[R8CHEV]

Not all R8's have the bigger brakes.... OR the climate control.... I know this as my mate has one and it doesnt...
They do however have the bigger and better coulsen seats (the wrap around head rest which looks awesome) chome strips around the windows and they have different wheels.... however they are still the same size... 18's.. as far as suspension goes im not to sure but its definately worth the extra dough just for the seats as they look so much better. also most of them do actually have the upgraded brakes.. some even have the even further upgraded GTS brakes and theres also goodies that im prob not familiar with

[goofafidamedes]

Not all R8's have the bigger brakes.... OR the climate control.... I know this as my mate has one and it doesnt...
They do however have the bigger and better coulsen seats (the wrap around head rest which looks awesome) chome strips around the windows and they have different wheels.... however they are still the same size... 18's.. as far as suspension goes im not to sure but its definately worth the extra dough just for the seats as they look so much better. also most of them do actually have the upgraded brakes.. some even have the even further upgraded GTS brakes and theres also goodies that im prob not familiar with

I would have sworn all VX R8's and VXII R8's had climate control - was one of the reasons the car cost another $8k or so - because of the Calais base from which it was built (which explains the extra chrome trimmings). Bigger brakes were an option, but stock they retained the "normal" brakes of the Clubsport.

[R8CHEV]

I would have sworn all VX R8's and VXII R8's had climate control - was one of the reasons the car cost another $8k or so - because of the Calais base from which it was built (which explains the extra chrome trimmings). Bigger brakes were an option, but stock they retained the "normal" brakes of the Clubsport.

Yeah i said the exact same thing..... Thats why when my mate picked his car up, I saw it didnt and im like... whoa dude I think it might be a fake... But we got it checked out and it Its genuine..... after seeing that I also noticed that ive seen a few in car lotz without the climate control.... weird... it makes you wonder how many people are paying so many extra dollars.... for so little extras new..... R8's are a great car... But 8k or however much different they are is not a price worth paying for a bigger head rest and some chrome in my opinion...... I still love MY R8 tho lol. Cheers

[redvxr8clubby]

I believe a genuine VX R8 would have the climate control dash and bigger 330mm front brakes, different style (but same size) wheels. I would say an R8 without them is non genuine, or perhaps had bits removed (perhaps stolen). The VX R8 is Berlina based, I think both R8 and standard Clubsport had the 10 stack CD in the boot as fitted to a Calais. HSV's website will give you some clues. Not sure that the suspension is different to standard Clubby. Body kit is the same. The Coulson seats have already been mentioned.

http://www.hsv.com.au/cars/VX/clubsportr8/clubsportr8.asp

[shaunv8]

std clubbys dont have the 10 stacker

[redvxr8clubby]

std clubbys dont have the 10 stacker

Looking at HSV website after I sent reply, yep it says single CD for Standard VX Clubsport - For the cost difference as a used car these days I think the R8 is the pick. I guess a reason a VX R8 might not have the bigger brakes is if a previous owner didn't want to pay the extra when replacing discs may have down graded to standard 296mm discs (would need to downgrade calipers also).

[hsv166]

I looked at buying a vx r8 but for similar money I got a vy clubsport but not an r8, better shape, better interior , vxr8 brakes etc

[bush_basha]

the bigger brakes and climate control was an option from factory for the R8, GTS was standard. i have seen a few R8's without the bigger brakes

[macca33]

I know that plenty have tried to assist, but to be honest, ALL of the specs can be found on the HSV website now. BTW - the VX R8 AND GTS were Berlina-based, only the Senator was Calais-based.

For my 2c, this is from the VX Series brochure that I have an electronic copy of:-

ClubSport
ENGINE
• 255 LS1 Chevrolet Heritage
• 255 kW @ 5600 rpm /475Nm @ 4000 rpm (PULP)
• HSV 5.7 litre LS1 V8 engine, aluminium block and heads, cast
iron cylinder bores
• Knock sensors enable engine to run on ULP
• Sequential multi-point port fuel injection with VX injectors,
VX inlet manifold, cast steel roller rocker arms, roller cam
followers, eight coil pack ignition, cross-bolted five main bearings
with 6 bolts per bearing cap
• HSV VX LS1 sports engine calibration for extra mid-range
power and torque
• HSV ram air type cold air intake
• HSV stainless steel exhaust extractors
• HSV high capacity, low back pressure 1.8 litre catalytic
converters
• HSV VX intermediate mufflers
• HSV big bore 57 mm dual exhaust system
• HSV VX low back pressure, high volume rear muffler
assembly with tuned exhaust note
• HSV high volume Sports twin pipe outlet
• HSV engine cover identification
TRANSMISSION AND FINAL
DRIVE
• High-torque capacity Turbo Hydra-Matic 4L60-E 4-speed
electronic automatic transmission with 298 mm torqueconverter
(optional)
• High-torque capacity T56 six-speed manual transmission
specific to LS1, hydraulic clutch
• Traction Control standard on 6 speed manual and 4 speed auto
• HSV VX Performance automatic transmission calibrations
• HSV limited slip differential
• HSV Sports final drive ratio 3.73:1 (manual only)
• Final drive ratio: 3.07:1 (auto only)
STEERING AND SUSPENSION
• Rack and pinion with power assistance
• Fully independent rear suspension
• HSV Touring coordinated suspension components
• HSV Touring variable-rate front and rear coil springs for
compliant ride and sports handling
• HSV Touring front and rear gas dampers for sports ride
control and crisp response
• HSV Touring ride height
• HSV 27mm front anti-roll bar, 15mm rear anti-roll bar
• Front anti-roll bar ball joint drop links
BRAKES
• HSV Sports brake package with police specification pads
• Twin piston front callipers, single piston rear callipers
• Front ventilated discs 296mm X 28mm
• Rear solid discs 286mm X 16mm
• ABS anti-lock brakes
WHEELS AND TYRES
• HSV Performance 5 spoke 8 X 18 inch alloy wheels in
Capri Silver
• HSV specification premium Bridgestone 235/40ZR18 SO2
directional tyres
• HSV wheel lock nuts
EXTERIOR
• Premium level headlights, tail lights and rear decor panel
• HSV VX fully integrated exterior styling
• HSV VX sports grille and wide lower air intake
• HSV contrasting colour accents front and rear
• HSV VX side skirts
• HSV VX Sports rear bootlid spoiler with integrated stop lamp
• HSV VX front fog lamps
INTERIOR
• HSV contoured Sports seats in dark Diamond Night close
weave bolsters with Techno fabric inserts in Empire Red,
Aquarius Blue or Honeycomb coordinated to exterior colour
• HSV Techno matching fabric door inserts
• HSV embroidered front and rear seat logos in silver grey
• HSV pearlescent dash surround finish colour matched to
Empire Red, Aquarius Blue and Honeycomb trim colours
• 4-way electric adjustable driver’s seat
• HSV driver and passenger lumbar support
• HSV embossed steering wheel centre, leather-bound steering
wheel with embossed pattern sections, steering wheel
mounted audio controls and height and reach adjustment
• HSV leather-trimmed automatic and manual shift grip
• HSV centre console owner's compartment with quality
tyre gauge, Maglite torch, wheel nut cap remover and multipurpose
pen knife
• HSV fully-lined luggage compartment with luggage net
• HSV fire extinguisher
• HSV high contrast light-background instrument cluster with
HSV 250 km/h speedometer
• HSV 255 LS1 specific tachometer with 6000 rpm redline
• Trip computer digital display
• HSV dash indicator for auto transmission selector
• Traction control indicator and switch for manual and auto
• HSV 6-speaker sound system including single CD player,
tuner, cassette and electric aerial automatic retract
• HSV third generation ‘ESS’ Embedded Security System and
immobiliser fully integrated into remote key pad central
locking system
MAIN FEATURES
• Driver and Passenger airbags
• Side impact airbags
• Front seat belt pre-tensioners
• Air-conditioning
• Body colour exterior mirrors with electric remote adjustment
• Electric windows
• Remote central locking and boot release
• Two stage unlocking with driver's door only and
passenger door functions
• 12-function trip computer
• Cruise control
• Headlamps automatic switch-off
• Battery saver with timed automatic accessory shutdown
IDENTIFICATION
• HSV bonnet medallion
• HSV contoured ClubSport badgework with VX graphics
and 255 LS1 identification
• HSV medallion in lower rear fascia
• HSV VX black over gold Build Plate, engraved with
individual build number
• HSV Owner’s Certificate
• HSV vehicle identification on centre console owner's
compartment
XU6 AND CLUBSPORT
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
• HSV VX Performance Suspension for faster handling response
includes Performance rated springs, dampers and anti-roll
bars, HSV Performance-rated rear control arm inboard bushes
• HSV VX Premium Brake System with jumbo 343 X 32mm front
cross-drilled and ventilated front discs, 315 X 18mm crossdrilled
and ventilated rear discs, four piston HSV embossed
callipers front and rear (red), upgraded pads, single bleed per
calliper, silver finish front and rear hubs
• HSV VX Performance Brake system with larger 330 X 32mm
ventilated front discs with upgraded HSV embossed front callipers
and pads, 315 X18mm ventilated rear discs, grooved front and
rear rotors, silver finish front and rear hubs
• HSV Pewter Leather seat trim and door trims
• HSV flush glass panel sunroof with push button slide and tilt
functions
• HSV SatNav
• HSV Performance sound system with10 stack CD player, 260
Watt amplifier and upper level speakers
• HSV Genuine Accessories including tailored mats and
protection equipment
• Performance Sound (6 stack CD changer)
- available early 2001
SMARTPAK OPTIONS
• Performance Brakes and Performance Suspension
• Premium Brakes and Performance Suspension
• Leather trim and sunroof
• Performance sound system, leather trim and sunroof


ClubSport R8
As for ClubSport plus
BRAKES
• HSV VX Performance Brake system with larger 330 x 32mm
ventilated front discs with upgraded HSV embossed front
callipers and pads, 315 x18mm ventilated rear discs, grooved
front and rear rotors, silver finish front and rear hubs
WHEELS AND TYRES
• HSV VX R8-specific 5 spoke 8 X 18 inch alloy wheels in Capri
Silver
• HSV specification premium Bridgestone 235/40ZR18 SO2
directional tyres
EXTERIOR
• Upper level belt and drip mouldings
• HSV R8 badgework on rear decor panel and behind front
wheel arches below repeater lamps
INTERIOR
• Upper level single zone climate control
• Maestro sound system with 10 stack CD player, 260 Watt
amplifier and upper level speakers (8)
• Visor-mounted illuminated vanity mirrors and front seat belt
height adjustment
• HSV wraparound Performance seats trimmed in Diamond
Night bolsters/Techno fabric inserts and matching instrument
panel surround as for ClubSport
CLUBSPORT R8
OPTIONAL EQUIPMENT
• HSV VX Premium Brake System with jumbo 343 X 32mm front
cross-drilled and ventilated front discs, 315 X 18mm crossdrilled
and ventilated rear discs, four piston HSV embossed
callipers front and rear (red), upgraded pads, single bleed per
calliper, silver finish front and rear hubs
• HSV VX Performance Suspension for faster handling response
includes Performance rated springs, dampers and anti-roll
bars, HSV Performance-rated rear lower control arm inboard
bushes
• HSV Pewter Leather seat trim
• HSV flush glass panel sunroof with push button slide
and tilt functions
• HSV SatNav
• HSV Premium sound system with 10 stack CD player,
540 Watt amplifier and upper level speakers
• HSV Genuine Accessories including tailored mats and
protection equipment
SMARTPAK OPTIONS
• Premium Brakes and Performance Suspension
• Leather trim and sunroof

Cheers,

Macca