Motorcyle @#&*!

[aaron__aus]

Well, V8's are fast, but not enough to catch a bike on corners. lol. I had a motorcyle next to me today. In the right lane to turn right he was, and I was in the lane to go straight. Turns out he wanted to go straight.

How was I supposed to know? I wasn't. Anyway, he goes to go straight and obviously as I wasn't aware, as he was in the turning lane, he gets cut off by me, not on purpose, I was just going straight! So he stops, and about 100 metres up the road speed's up and kicks off my passenger side mirror. W@nker!

So off I go after him. Yeah, I know, can't catch a bike. Though in the short chase I got within a metre. Then the corners came up and I was no match. The car zipped along though and handled the corners bloody well. Then there was traffic and I had to slow down.

Obviously went to the police and filed a report, only had partial rego of him though, first 3 digits. So bad luck there I guess.

Anyway, just wanted to vent. Can't believe he did that considering I did nothing wrong and was in the right. Impatient idiots. :flipoff:

Anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced side mirror out my way? Maybe chev's?

[Timmay5.7]

Was the bike indicating? Thats a good sign of whether or not he was turning...

[`redoctober]

Was the bike indicating? Thats a good sign of whether or not he was turning...

By reading it I'd assume he was in a dedicated turning lane but decided to go straight.

However, it's up for debate how far in the lane he was, as he could have just been next to the OP's car rather than in the actual lane (if he was in the lane it would have been clear that he was turning, yet if he were near/on the line his intentions should have been obvious.)

Either way it sucks that you lost your mirror, but once you realised you had cut him you should have given him an apologetic wave to calm his nerves. I wouldn't think almost falling off a bike would be too much of an exhilarating experience.

-Rob.

[A^K^T]

It sounds like the bike wasn't cut off , if he was that close to the line that you couldn't tell what lane he was in then then the bike rider should have been a little more on the ball .

A bike will general stay to the left or right of the lane to keep out of the oil that's usually in the centre of most lanes but not that far over that you can't tell what lane he's in .

I ride a bike myself and you see other bike riders take risks and lane split in moving traffic or expect that other road users have seen them .

Hope they match the partial plate to the bike so the tool can pay for the damage he caused .

[Devil CV8]

The removal of mirrors seems to be a favourite of bike riders. I'd suggest having a read of a few bike forums as there seems to be people who will write about their experiences in the hope of getting support. A long shot I know, but worth the time.



but once you realised you had cut him you should have given him an apologetic wave to calm his nerves. I wouldn't think almost falling off a bike would be too much of an exhilarating experience.

-Rob.
Why should he give a wave, he did nothing wrong. The bike disobeyed lane markings and went to go straight.
I ride a bike and one of the roundabouts I go through has both lanes as a straight through with only the right one being a turn right lane. Often I'll be in the right lane turning and have the car next to me come around instead of going straight, just fortunate I'm not going straight.

[KeenGolfer]

Was the bike cruising along beside you? One of the first rules of roadcraft on a bike is not to ride beside a car. Or was he slightly in front, around your bonnet area?

Maybe he didn't know the road and didn't realise the lane only turned right. Surprising though that he didn't accelerate to slip past you - should have been easy depending on the bike. No excuse for having a go at your car though. It's that sort of shit why car drivers hate bikers, and just makes things bad for the rest of the riders. As if it's not dangerous enough already.

[zorro]

I have a bike (with a P plate on it???) do this to me along Sandgate road. he went up the turning lane, chopped a bus a came straight at me lucky I heard him up it and backed off expecting him to go under my car.

Next set of lights I copped a spray of abuse from him, I asked him what his name was he asked why. I replied to keep an eye out in the obituries column as riding like you do I wont be surprised to see your name in it.

[CarlFST60L]

1. Bikes are not really much quicker in corners that a fat ass commodore, just straight lines they are impossible without 400kwrw. It is a common misunderstanding that bikes are fast around corners when compared to cars. Same with brakes.
2. If you were in the right, you should have taken his plate and gone to the cops. There is no excuse for kicking your mirror off if you didnt do anything wrong.

Seems many bike riders these days hate all drivers, but, in their defense, 99% of people on the road are clearly suffering from the retardation.

I personally dont like when bikes come up the inside to beat everyone off the lights and give you no respect or room to take off fast, especially turning onto an onramp where its a sharp turn off the lights. I dont mind pulling out a sub 2 second on street tyres to give them a little G up before they pull away. Certainly hate it when they cant ride or are on a slower cruiser and they hold you up

[aaron__aus]

Was the bike indicating? Thats a good sign of whether or not he was turning...

Nope. He was not. However as I said, he was in the right turn only lane.

[QUOTE=Devil CV8;1367243]The removal of mirrors seems to be a favourite of bike riders. I'd suggest having a read of a few bike forums as there seems to be people who will write about their experiences in the hope of getting support. A long shot I know, but worth the time.


Thanks for the advice mate, I'll give it a try, long shot I know, but what the heck :)

Just to be clear to all, the bike was to my right hand side, about a metre away from me and slightly to the rear.

Carl - I agree, however a bike can slow down a lot faster and pick up again (well this one could)... going from 170kmph to slow enough to turn a sharp left (he kept dodging the lights, smart bugger) and speed up again gets a little too dangerous with others on the road :(

[NefariousLS1]

last bike that thought it was a good idea to try that trick wore the side of the car I was in LOL personaly I can understand why people would just give them a nudge after doing something like that if it was my car I'd be out for blood

[Road Warrior]

Well, V8's are fast, but not enough to catch a bike on corners. lol. I had a motorcyle next to me today. In the right lane to turn right he was, and I was in the lane to go straight. Turns out he wanted to go straight.

How was I supposed to know? I wasn't. Anyway, he goes to go straight and obviously as I wasn't aware, as he was in the turning lane, he gets cut off by me, not on purpose, I was just going straight! So he stops, and about 100 metres up the road speed's up and kicks off my passenger side mirror. W@nker!

So off I go after him. Yeah, I know, can't catch a bike. Though in the short chase I got within a metre. Then the corners came up and I was no match. The car zipped along though and handled the corners bloody well. Then there was traffic and I had to slow down.

Obviously went to the police and filed a report, only had partial rego of him though, first 3 digits. So bad luck there I guess.

Anyway, just wanted to vent. Can't believe he did that considering I did nothing wrong and was in the right. Impatient idiots. :flipoff:

Anyone know where I can get a reasonably priced side mirror out my way? Maybe chev's?

So is my understanding correct - he was in a right turn pocket at an intersection next to you, and you were in the straight ahead lane, and he decided he wanted to go straight from his position? What a retard.

Then again, there's retards driving all sorts of vehicles out there.

[sszute]

Sorry to hear that sucks about your mirror. You should of turned into him wen he done it paybacks a b@tch

[LargeRice]

I must say you guys are awefully in tune with motorcyclists.

I am a daily rider and peak hour is definitely an interesting time of day LOL.

I split and filter. I do anything to get away from cars as most riders do. When i get to the front i always try my best to make sure i move into a lane to give a clear indication to others which lane i am in. 99% of the time i'm good. 1% i get stuck and i might be sitting dead smack on the line which is a pain. I just hope the cars behind me a nice enough to let me in. I blast away quickly from lights and never hold up cars. Seen other riders split to the front and crawl off the line which i agree is selfish.

Never had to abuse a car driver. Never has to kick anyone. Twice have had cars merge straight over onto me but a quick blast of the throttle (loud pipes save lives) and i'm out of there and making enough noise to alert the driver.

The rider was in the wrong. I love doing dodgy's as much as the next guy but you need to know when you are in the wrong and suck it up if things don't go your way.

I have to say cars now are very polite to bikes vs 8yrs ago when i started riding. Far more people move to let me split past vs cut me off. I try to nod or wave when they do that for me.

I'm sure many people don't like bikes splitting but don't tell me if you couldn't do it you wouldnt :eyes:

I sold my car due to traffic, my 1.5hr daily drive to work is now 35 minutes. :smilesandbanana: So if you don't like it, join us :xmas:

[mrtockley]

So is my understanding correct - he was in a right turn pocket at an intersection next to you, and you were in the straight ahead lane, and he decided he wanted to go straight from his position? What a retard.

Then again, there's retards driving all sorts of vehicles out there.

The laws need to be changed in regards to motorbike plates. They are too small and a lot of bike riders cover up a couple of the letters with those bullshit rego sticker holders so you can't see them...

Pretty tough kicking off a mirror then pissing off!

Tock.

[aaron__aus]

Road Warrior:
Yep, that's absolutely correct. you know, I wouldn't have had a problem with it, but he gave no indication and then kicked off my mirror for the sake of it. Definitely a retard.

SSZute:
man, if I'd registered what was happening at the time he did it, I would have definitely turned into it. No doubt in my mind. I was soooo p!ssed off at the time.
Now I'm ok, could have been worse. But still. Total retardation.

Tock: I agree totally.

LargeRice:
Agree with you too. Normally have no issues with bikes, this guy was just a clown short of a circus.

[SharkBiscuit]

Does anyone know where reinforced mirrors can be had? Like to see what happens to a rider then. (yes yes i know a pedestrians view of something like that is no good)

I used to ride as well and knew that if I was lane splitting that it was up to me to be lucky and other drivers to be nice. I hate it when I have pole position in a car and someone on a bike pulls in front of me over the lines. :flipoff: Who says you have more of a right to a spirited launch than I do? :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

[KeenGolfer]

1. Bikes are not really much quicker in corners that a fat ass commodore, just straight lines they are impossible without 400kwrw. It is a common misunderstanding that bikes are fast around corners when compared to cars.

I dunno. I'm not much of a rider but I doubt the average car could keep up with a bike for example through a roundabout or chicanes. I always get drivers trying to take me through roundabouts in the 2nd lane (inside or out) - it just makes me laugh as I blow them away.

[Big_Valven]

The ones that think they own the road and reckon they can get vigilante if things don't go their way.... some of them deserve to wear the side of a car.

[the big fist]

Lane splitting is fine if the bike takes off at a decent pace so that instances like what happened shouldn't really occur. Unlike the wanker scooter...yes scooter, rider who decided to lane split, take off slow and then sat in the middle of the lane and then got pissed off because i was "tail gating" him, I said mate I cant go any slower or I'll stall. haha. That guy had balls, he even brake checked me...on his scooter :rofl:

[flappist]

It doesn't always work out for the idiots. A few months ago I was teaching my girlfriend's daughter to drive. We were out on the backroads of the sunnycoast near Kenilworth where a couple of superheroes scared hell out of her by overtaking, one each side and then giving finger gesture.

One would think that if you spot a 500 year old camry with big L plates on it it would be fairly safe to assume that the driver may not be superconfident and will not be doing 20 km/h over the speed limit on windy roads.

After explaining to her that she was not doing the wrong thing and they were idiots we wandered off to a side road to do hill starts.

About half an hour later as we were driving home she got another fright as a shiny big rescue helicopter was hovering above us waiting for us to clear its landing area as there was a motorcycle looking very sad lying in a gutter, and a motorcyclist wearing very similar leathers to one of the idiots lying on the ground next to a police car with the disco engaged. The other idiot was talking to the nice policeman about fishing or footy or something but they must follow different teams because they were not smiling.....

Karma is a bitch........

[CSP]

Riders like the one described in the OP piss me off! :flipoff:

They give ALL bike riders a bad reputation. Avoiding cars is one thing, but blatantly breaking the law is just down right STUPID!

When I ride, I ride like I'm invisible and stay as clear from cars as possible. I'll speed up to get past one (to say 70kph in a 60kph zone and then back to 60kph again) just to minimise the time I'm next to them. I'd rather an arse hole copper book me for a 1 second blat that be taken out by some lane changing idiot who doesn't look! Like on my way home today... Dumb bitch in an Excel starts moving across on me!

As for lane splitting, I don't do it personally... I can see why some do though but if you aren't going to give the cars room and then take of quickly, why bother?

Riding is fun and can be safe - just avoid all other vehicles as much as possible and without being a tool! And if ONLY car drivers understood what it was like to ride, the roads would be a safer place.

[spank]

Does anyone know where reinforced mirrors can be had? Like to see what happens to a rider then. (yes yes i know a pedestrians view of something like that is no good)

I used to ride as well and knew that if I was lane splitting that it was up to me to be lucky and other drivers to be nice. I hate it when I have pole position in a car and someone on a bike pulls in front of me over the lines. :flipoff: Who says you have more of a right to a spirited launch than I do? :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

when i lane split and pull into the front row i always pick, if i can something that looks like it will only dawdle off the line anyway, but if i dont have a chioce and its 2 cars that want to have a bit of a run then i get ready for the launch on the green, and then you had better be in something that can run 10's on the street before you can say im holding you up! :rofl:

[zorro]

I dunno. I'm not much of a rider but I doubt the average car could keep up with a bike for example through a roundabout or chicanes. I always get drivers trying to take me through roundabouts in the 2nd lane (inside or out) - it just makes me laugh as I blow them away.

I'm with you on this one, 600cc Honda couldnt shake a certain red ute going down Mt Nebo.. Even better when we stopped down at the Gap and had a chat at the lights, 'didnt expect you to stick with us mate!' :rofl:

I agree with CSP to an extent, you need to be visible to everyone aswell as keep to yourself. I find riding for others around you before yourself and expect the worse helps. years of dirtbikes and falls dont scare me half as much as a road bike in traffic does.

In saying that it amuses me how cocky some guys on bikes are, one copped a good hit one day for knocking into a guys car whilst trying to do the ever so popular race up the broken line to get 1st off at lights. I see em going at ludacris speeds on the highways weaving in and out of cars and cutting it close, even as an occasional rider I think it is just a joke. I dont ever want to run over someone sliding on the ground nor knock a rider down, more riders need to take this into consideration.

[aaron__aus]

That guy had balls, he even brake checked me...on his scooter :rofl:

lmao, he would have ended up a hood ornament on my car :p

:rofl:

[LargeRice]

I dunno. I'm not much of a rider but I doubt the average car could keep up with a bike for example through a roundabout or chicanes. I always get drivers trying to take me through roundabouts in the 2nd lane (inside or out) - it just makes me laugh as I blow them away.

It depends on the road and then the rider/driver. On certain well known twisty roads in Sydney, the road surface isn’t much chop. In my last car vs me on my MV, I would take the win in the car around those roads anyday of the week. Not because the bike can’t go faster, I’m just not willing to take the risk as a rider as it’s far to bumpy on the bike.

A good driver in an STI or EVO would keep up with a good rider on those roads no sweat providing the bike doesn’t open it right up to stupid speeds on the straights.

However a small minority of riders out there would absoltuely eat cars alive on those roads unless you are driving something really special and have the skills to back it up. The problem is those riders are taking massive risks that really should be reserved for a race track. Hit some loose gravel at those speeds and it's game over.

As for riders in peak hour, you definitely build up a resistance for risk. It all becomes to easy, none of it is hard. Filtering may look dangerous but it's actually easier to do vs splitting stopped cars because the gaps are wider.

I've heard a few stories of guys splitting that have hit one car and then bounced off and hit 4 others in the process. :1peek:

[GODSMACK]

Kudo's to the motorcyclist for kicking off the mirror whilst in motion.... Nice...

[misterS]

Mind painting the picture for us a bit more clearly? Did you pull up in the right hand lane in pole position next to a bike already stationary in the right hand lane, or you are stopped at the lights when a bike sidles up through the traffic and stops in the right hand lane next to you with no indicator flashing?

[Road Warrior]

In Wistern Orstralia it's legal to lanesplit and I do it most times, especially in peak hour if the traffic is banked right up to intersections. Don't cross the unbroken line or the stop line and you're fine. The only exception to that is if I don't think there is enough clearance for me to do it, or the traffic is moving. Or there is something else happening up ahead that makes my biker's 6th sense start twitching (erratic/unpredictable driver, debris on the road, pedestrians etc).

Try squeezing into a gap where there is obviously not enough room and you clobber someone's car then you are quite clearly a retard and deserve everything you get. Same goes for some of these warm weather wankers that are now starting to come out of the woodwork and ride like they think they're in a movie like The Matrix and wear nothing but a t-shirt, shorts and thongs - yeah, that's a real smart move there, Einstein.

[aaron__aus]

Mind painting the picture for us a bit more clearly? Did you pull up in the right hand lane in pole position next to a bike already stationary in the right hand lane, or you are stopped at the lights when a bike sidles up through the traffic and stops in the right hand lane next to you with no indicator flashing?

No worries - I was already in the right hand lane (aka fast lane) and the bike pulled up next to me in the right hand lane (right turn only).

[Vulture]

1. Bikes are not really much quicker in corners that a fat ass commodore, just straight lines they are impossible without 400kwrw.

I dunno, a couple of 600cc sportsbikes got a shock when they came up against the SS with its nasty L98 in it. The faster we went, the easier it got (in a straight line) after a while it all comes down to power and frontal area rather than weight and power.

[AFAR]

I dont really care if a bike comes out infront of me at the lights.
99% of the time they get to the speed limit before i do.

It's faggot pushbike riders who do it that piss me off.

[Road Warrior]

I dont really care if a bike comes out infront of me at the lights.
99% of the time they get to the speed limit before i do.

It's faggot pushbike riders who do it that piss me off.

lol

What about scooters? The motorcycle equivalent of a Chihuahua :lol:

[zorro]

Lets stay on one thing for now, I wont get into those kamikaze leaf blower riders

[A^K^T]

Lane splitting is fine if the bike takes off at a decent pace so that instances like what happened shouldn't really occur. Unlike the wanker scooter...yes scooter, rider who decided to lane split, take off slow and then sat in the middle of the lane and then got pissed off because i was "tail gating" him, I said mate I cant go any slower or I'll stall. haha. That guy had balls, he even brake checked me...on his scooter :rofl:

I've seen the same thing , somone on a scooter lane splitting :confused:

[the big fist]

I've seen the same thing , somone on a scooter lane splitting :confused:

It's a terrible problem in leederville !
The "bloke" i had the run in with actually did a U turn after I turned off and followed me till I got to the stop sign and started telling me how much of an irresponsible v8 driver i was.....umm.....I missed the point where my cars engine had anything to do with him being a gimp :rofl:

[planetdavo]

A few weeks ago I had a lane splitter idle up between a couple of lanes, and he proceeded to smack the left hand mirror of my work supplied car. He didn't bat an eyelid (well a helmut anyway), and just kept idling up to the front of the traffic, where he proceeded to park the bike in the pedestrian crossing section, forcing pedestrians to walk around his bike!
What a tool. Thankfully my mirror was fine with a pop back.
Many do think they are a law unto themselves, but saying that, so do many car drivers as well...just the cars can't do lane splitting.

[splcrazy1]

i came close to killing a bike rider on an aprillia or what ever you call em lol , i was minding my own bussines doing about 80km going up a hill that was slightly turning right , this guy on a bike comes outta nowhere and tried to overtake me on the left hand side , it was a two lane oneway road i was in the left lane when this guy decided to do this insane move on me , well the road rules are if your driving a car is that you should stay as close to the left and thats what i was doing anyway you guys know what i mean . Anyway me driving up the hill doing 80km or more sticking to the left this guy on the bike decided to overtake me on the left , well he nearly got squashed like a pancake if he didnt open his throttle man the bike was sreaming , he realised what an idiot he was and was sorry , the guy was really in shock , that was so bloody close dude .

[TommyVTss]

lol

What about scooters? The motorcycle equivalent of a Chihuahua :lol:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::goodjob:

[Road Warrior]

I missed the point where my cars engine had anything to do with him being a gimp :rofl:

:lol:

Scooters shit me when they try and lanesplit, wobbling up the middle with a level of skill and awareness that your average rock ape could better, and then proceed to fag up the traffic once the lights go green. There's no need for it - the whole point of lanesplitting in the first place is so you can get past traffic and get the hell out of everyone else's way!


A few weeks ago I had a lane splitter idle up between a couple of lanes, and he proceeded to smack the left hand mirror of my work supplied car. He didn't bat an eyelid (well a helmut anyway), and just kept idling up to the front of the traffic, where he proceeded to park the bike in the pedestrian crossing section, forcing pedestrians to walk around his bike!
What a tool. Thankfully my mirror was fine with a pop back.
Many do think they are a law unto themselves, but saying that, so do many car drivers as well...just the cars can't do lane splitting.

Now that shit there, that just isn't cool. You shoulda gotten out of your car and gave him a serve, or at the very least taken his rego and reported him.

[AFAR]

lol

What about scooters? The motorcycle equivalent of a Chihuahua :lol:

Haha yeah.

Im ashamed to say this, but we had one.
They were mad fun zipping around the side streets when i was 16-17years old:rofl:

..now not so much :eek:

[seedyrom]

Now that shit there, that just isn't cool. You shoulda gotten out of your car and gave him a serve, or at the very least taken his rego and reported him.
Unfortunately for Davo there's no "Report Post" Button in real life

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/images/buttons/report.gif

:rofl:

[lumina ss]

So let me get this straight he was in the right turn lane, next to your right tail light, well that would have flagged me, that he wasn't turning right. My guess is he was upset because you wouldn't let him in, whether he was is the right or wrong overtaking on the inside effectively most normal people would have let him in just to normalize the situation and avoid an accident. If on the other hand I was the rider and you gave me the "perception" of a conflict over the lane by maybe "racing" me id do more than take off your mirror. perception is everything and reality nothing. Like all wars the victor writes the history, from there perspective.

[heavyduty1340]

1. Bikes are not really much quicker in corners that a fat ass commodore, just straight lines they are impossible without 400kwrw. It is a common misunderstanding that bikes are fast around corners when compared to cars. Same with brakes.


I personally dont like when bikes come up the inside to beat everyone off the lights and give you no respect or room to take off fast, especially turning onto an onramp where its a sharp turn off the lights. I dont mind pulling out a sub 2 second on street tyres to give them a little G up before they pull away. Certainly hate it when they cant ride or are on a slower cruiser and they hold you up

Carl , you are just showing yourself to be one of those uneducted wankers that think they know everything about motorbikes , but actually knows f@ck all . My harley flogs the monaro at cornering , and in a straight line will outrun it to 140km/hr - and Ive got a 402 stroker (the harley has a stroker in it as well)
As for brakes well you just made yourself look like an even bigger fool - go ride a V-rod or Ducati and try out the brembos and then think about your stupid post again

Bikes can legally split lanes in some states , so if it is legal stop your complaining - BUT as in OP I do not agree with this rider coming back and damaging the car - he didnt get hurt so harden the f@ck up - also an acknowledging wave from the driver probably would have defused the situation

Im thick skinned so go ahead flame me dilligaf

[aaron__aus]

So let me get this straight he was in the right turn lane, next to your right tail light, well that would have flagged me, that he wasn't turning right. My guess is he was upset because you wouldn't let him in, whether he was is the right or wrong overtaking on the inside effectively most normal people would have let him in just to normalize the situation and avoid an accident. If on the other hand I was the rider and you gave me the "perception" of a conflict over the lane by maybe "racing" me id do more than take off your mirror. perception is everything and reality nothing. Like all wars the victor writes the history, from there perspective.

Obviously you didn't read it right. He was to my right. Slightly back, not at the rear of me at all. I was moving before he was - in all honesty after the light turned green I wasn't looking at him at all - why the hell should I if he's in the wrong lane? I wasn't racing him at all, he'd left my mind as I thought he was turning left.

You must be really thin skinned. 'More than take off your mirror'... really... what a joke. If he wasn't such a wimp and didn't race away, the outcome would have been different.

If you've got nothing constructive to say, then don't.

[Ewok]

Shouldn't matter dude. I am sick of lane splitting dickheads cruising up and sitting next to me at the lights, and when you thrash em and move in front of em they get pi$$ed because they believe its their god given right to be in front of everyone else. Had a similar situation a few weeks back myself mate, where a guy was in the left hand turning lane and I was heading straight, I took off like a bat outta hell and he obviously wasn't turning, when he took off, he was forced to the left side of the intersection because he didnt take off quick enough and I inadvertently cut him off, he came up on the right side of me (dual carriage way) and abused the shit out of me and then pulled in front of me trying to cut me off. Fortunately he didn't do anything to my car, but I hope they are able to find the guy who hit yours. Good luck man.

[vz6.0]

theres a road between pakenham and woori yallock, windy, narrow and sweet for driving hard.

On the few decent straights, ive had bikes go around me, even after sitting behind me while i hit apexes, and use as much road as my last car would give me.

These same idiots then get the shits when i sit on their arse the whole time up the hill.

Im not a bike hater, and i have friends whove had decent spills that caused mucho carnage, but its the law of the jungle on the roads unfortunately, from a perspective of the smaller of the two invariably ends up much worse off.

I dont cut kenworths off for that exact reason, and i expect to be the only vehicle using the same piece of a one lane road at one time.

Lane splitting may make you blokes feel safe, but it increases YOUR risk of getting hurt so dont whinge when some ignorant carnt doesnt see you on his 4.

pet hate 2, riders who insist on being at the front of the queue, then grizzle again, because i see the red circle with the number in it, as a target, rather than a limit and they may not.

As far as the mirror incident, i would seriously consider hurting the rider, even if it took 6 months to find him.


Describe the bike in great detail, and name the road it happened on.

[CSP]

Obviously you didn't read it right. He was to my right. Slightly back, not at the rear of me at all. I was moving before he was - in all honesty after the light turned green I wasn't looking at him at all - why the hell should I if he's in the wrong lane? I wasn't racing him at all, he'd left my mind as I thought he was turning left.

He was in the right lane and you thought he was turning left? This is just getting more and more confusing...

[Ewok]

Clear typo on his part there I think he meant right.

Another incident was rather bloody close just monday. I was heading to work (I travel up Curtain ave then turns into west coast highway on that stretch of road just past Swanbourne barracks turn off) in peak hour when out of nowhere an idiot on a motorcycle lane splits the oncoming traffic towards me and misses me by 1 c*** hair. Yes, correct, he pulled out into the inside line from the oncomming traffic and lane split between them and me. He has to be the luckiest person on the planet at the moment.

I have nothing against motorbike riders but I wish that they would use more common sense and realize that whatever they do, they have more chance of ending up mince-meat than a driver does. You don't have air bags and crumple zones on a bike, you become a human missile.

[Bombaman]

It's faggot pushbike riders who do it that piss me off.

Cant speak for the rules in your area, I personally do ride to work on my push bike on some roads through peak hour traffic to get to the Bike Lanes. (Wanneroo Rd, Main St, Hutton St and Cambridge St if you in Perth). Especially at Night I prefeer to ride on the foot path, but it is illegal to ride on the foot path if you are over the age of 16, $150 fine.

I do admit I have a tendancy to 'retaliate' when drivers almost knock me off my bide (flying by at 80 in a 60 zone, missing me by a 10cm or so). So I will ride and 'lane split' to the front of them and take of really slowly, although I would like to put a boot through the window of some of these people that just done give a f**k.

[Ewok]

OMG Karl! you ride to work ??? damn I'm goign to have to stalk you now and turn you into my hood ornament :D

Sif not ride the quad to work ...

[Bombaman]

hood ornament :D

Think if you hit me you would become My new Bike Ornament. "Introducing the new Alloytec SV6 powered REPCO Pushbike Range!"

[Ewok]

"Introducing the new Alloytec SV6 powered REPCO Pushbike Range!"

WANT!

"Headlines! SV6 powered pushbike cracks 10sec quater mile ...."

[aaron__aus]

Ewok - thanks man, appreciate it.

VZ6.0 - lol @ red circle with number in it being a target rather than a limit - I like that way of lookin at it. I totally agree with you though, I don't hate bikes at all, just this stupid one. I mean, I'm not driving a lada so don't expect me to crawl on take off. It happened in Dandy South, intersection of greens road and hammond road. Didn't get much detail of the bike itself, saw too much red and was concentrating on catchin him - it was a ninja or the like, green fearings, he was dressed in all the proper gear, green & white leathers with same colour helmet. I'll see him again one day.

CSP - yep, sorry mate, I meant right. Was a typo.

[vz6.0]

FWIW, keep a sh1tty disposable camera in the glovebox, that uses proper film (if you can still buy them)

It is reasonably simple to pull it out and snap a picture (for posterity, and identifying others)

Why film and not digital? I dont claim to know about cameras, but most are ridiculously slow to startup, and in the heat of the moment, trying to turn the bastard on would only frustrate me further lol.

old style camera, point and shoot.

[lumina ss]

my attitude is slightly colored by an old shithead who did a U-turn in front of me while his view down the road was obscured by an urvan, scratch me, but the thing that pissed me off the most was his attitude, "It wasnt my fault, I didnt see you" That is the biggest issue its never the fault of the guy in the car.

In this case Im amused by the fact that you know all the details of where he was what he was doing, what you were doing etc etc and yet you still managed to "offend" him enough to mirror you, I'm dead sure he had less of an idea what was going on than you did.

[HSVREDSLED]

I wouldnt worry too much about bravado bike riders.

As you rightfully indicated, most finish up in the obits. Sad..but true.

[BLACK 346]

my attitude is slightly colored by an old shithead who did a U-turn in front of me while his view down the road was obscured by an urvan, scratch me, but the thing that pissed me off the most was his attitude, "It wasnt my fault, I didnt see you" That is the biggest issue its never the fault of the guy in the car.

In this case Im amused by the fact that you know all the details of where he was what he was doing, what you were doing etc etc and yet you still managed to "offend" him enough to mirror you, I'm dead sure he had less of an idea what was going on than you did.

If he is going straight ahead from a dedicated turning lane, then yes
you are correct, he probably has no idea what is going on and should
be walking. How many people do you see **** up on the roads these
days and then try and blame someone else for their mistake? And
to kick the poor blokes mirror off, well lets just put it this way, I
would have caught the gutless **** somehow :)

[NuffNuff]

I find that mt Alexander road in Melbourne is terrible with scooter riders heading into the city, I'm thankful I start at 8am rather than 9 and so I can miss out on having the dickheads filtering into traffic clipping mirrors with their wobbly fat arses while trying to maneuver the god damn tram tracks.

Cyclists there are terrible also, sure there are enough douchebags in cars going down that way, but they get in front of the pack of cars and then the cars have to go back around them all over again, probably 10 sets of lights with the same cyclist doing the same thing over and over .. oh and the trams .. oooh, *logs off*

[Ned_Flanders666]

I dont mind motorbike riders. I wish the ones that overtake you actually keep going.

I hate it when they go to overtake you, only to have them sitting right in front of you and go under the speed limit with one hand on their hip enjoying the scenery having a bit of a tosca (Around Berowra going to the old pacific highway) and when you overtake them they do the same thing again:soap:

I dont want to say they are all like that, but I do come across them a lot.

[Wonky]

FWIW, keep a sh1tty disposable camera in the glovebox, that uses proper film (if you can still buy them)

It is reasonably simple to pull it out and snap a picture (for posterity, and identifying others)

Why film and not digital? I dont claim to know about cameras, but most are ridiculously slow to startup, and in the heat of the moment, trying to turn the bastard on would only frustrate me further lol.

old style camera, point and shoot.

I also gather from something I read on here that film cameras are the only way to go from the legal point of view if ever the evidence was to end up used in court, I assume given the possibility of digital pics being altered.

[Road Warrior]

I find that mt Alexander road in Melbourne is terrible with scooter riders heading into the city, I'm thankful I start at 8am rather than 9 and so I can miss out on having the dickheads filtering into traffic clipping mirrors with their wobbly fat arses while trying to maneuver the god damn tram tracks.

Cyclists there are terrible also, sure there are enough douchebags in cars going down that way, but they get in front of the pack of cars and then the cars have to go back around them all over again, probably 10 sets of lights with the same cyclist doing the same thing over and over .. oh and the trams .. oooh, *logs off*

I don't know what the law is 'over there' but in WA the law allows you to ride a 50cc scooter on a car licence - you don't have to undertake any training or anything. So what you have is increasing numbers of people jumping onto scooters with no training at all, no appreciation of the risks and liken it to riding a push bike like when they were in their teens. Blind Freddy could tell you that riding a motorcycle is completely different to driving a car and requires different skill sets. Any motorbike rider will tell you that they can spot the difference straight away, with someone riding a scooter who has their motorcycle licence and someone who does not.

Personally I think that little loophole is gay and needs to be removed.

[`redoctober]

It happened in Dandy South, intersection of greens road and hammond road.
Well there's your problem.

Bit much road rage through there.

[aaron__aus]

my attitude is slightly colored by an old shithead who did a U-turn in front of me while his view down the road was obscured by an urvan, scratch me, but the thing that pissed me off the most was his attitude, "It wasnt my fault, I didnt see you" That is the biggest issue its never the fault of the guy in the car.

In this case Im amused by the fact that you know all the details of where he was what he was doing, what you were doing etc etc and yet you still managed to "offend" him enough to mirror you, I'm dead sure he had less of an idea what was going on than you did.

In this case it wasn't my fault. What he did was illegal. Plain and simple. Hopefully you get that.

I'm also glad I could amuse you. Obviously it doesn't take much.

[Metal]

This happened to my car around 2 years ago (the mirror taken by a motorcyclist).

The funny thing was, that although I was angry, I'm not the kind of person to start a confrontation over it.... but my mate who was in the car definitely was... so out the car we went at the traffic lights.

He saw us coming and went through a red light, and was caught 50 metres up the road for doing so. The mirror was on an old car and I had a replacement, but being able to drive passed him and laugh our asses of at his red light caper before the cop got out of the car was gold.

I've heard of this a few times on forums, and some get away with it, others get thrown off their bikes :goodjob: