VE Bold rear tyres after just 9,000ks!

[Louie_D]

Mate of mine has a VE SV6 and after just 9,000k's the tyres are bold. Doesnt seem to be a camber problem as both are worn evenly across the tyre. Im guessing its an alignment problem causing the tyres to drag?

[Uncle Tone]

Mate of mine has a VE SV6 and after just 9,000k's the tyres are bold. Doesnt seem to be a camber problem as both are worn evenly across the tyre. Im guessing its an alignment problem causing the tyres to drag?

If the tyres are scrubbing you would be able to tell. I'm guessing the problem is the burnouts your mate is doing.

[Louie_D]

Its actually a 40 yr old womans car, hasnt done any burnouts. Shes booked it to go into Holden to suss it out just thought ide ask maybe someone else has had the same problem

[Wonky]

If no burnouts, did she buy it new and/or has it had an accident? The only reason it should be that far out of alignment is poorly fixed accident damage. I know plenty of guys (me included) who have got (or are on the way to getting) 40,000+ kms out of 19s and 20s, let alone 18s on a V6! :shock:

If the tyres were that badly out of alignment eg. toe-in given camber seems ok, then as UT said it should be obvious when driving eg. squealing with little or no provocation and tram-lining all over the place.

[HEXEM]

I know plenty of guys (me included) who have got (or are on the way to getting) 40,000+ kms out of 19s and 20s, let alone 18s on a V6! :shock:

Yep, I got 40,000km out of my 19s RE050A... I think if the alignment was out that far to wear those B/Stones down in 9,000km you would probably hear some awefull tyre noises while driving...

Phil..

[mustanger]

9000 ks is definately low klms for a SV6 . There must be an alignment issue (crabbing) or someone is taking her car without her consent .:burnout::burnout:

[Louie_D]

It was purchased Brand New as has not had any accidents. Ill let yas know what the dealer finds as the problem

[SV8er]

If no burnouts, did she buy it new and/or has it had an accident? The only reason it should be that far out of alignment is poorly fixed accident damage. I know plenty of guys (me included) who have got (or are on the way to getting) 40,000+ kms out of 19s and 20s, let alone 18s on a V6! :shock:

If the tyres were that badly out of alignment eg. toe-in given camber seems ok, then as UT said it should be obvious when driving eg. squealing with little or no provocation and tram-lining all over the place.

Agree Wonky , Coming up to 37,000 on my 20's and still good for a few thou more yet :)

[wagnman]

There is obviously SOMEONE that has driven this car that has done a nice fat smokey burnout in it and scrubbed the tyres right down. It wouldnt suprise me if the tyres have been bald for a long time.

[HSVQUE]

$10 sez someone elce has been driving the car.. son maybe? and doing skids.

is it just the back tyres or front to?

[Desertws6]

Louie_D,

Had a neighbor ask me about his car once, why are the tyres in the rear bald? He said the tyres where crap and they had 1000 miles on them. the fronts where fine with nearly no wear. The car was a Mazda Miata with a 4 cylinder and a M5.

After inspection, I noticed a banding pattern and scuff marks on them. It was obvious that his kid had driven the car and burned the rear tyres. The threads of the tyres where almost showing.

I'm not saying that this is the issue, just my observations with life's experience.


Feel the tyres with your hands.
1. Are they smooth?
2. Is it easier to move your hand over in one direction vs the other? This could be a toe issue. Simple alignment will fix that. A bad alignment will wear tyres very quickly.
3. Worn out on the inside or outside. Camber issue! Alignment will fix issue.


Please let us know what you find.


Cheers,
Steve :cheers:

[planetdavo]

There is a well known issue with early VE rear tyre wear, and a fix for it, but these are very low km's even with that issue.
Wonder if maybe the rear wheels have been backed into a few too many gutters at parking time...? :hide:

[mmciau]

There is a well known issue with early VE rear tyre wear, and a fix for it, but these are very low km's even with that issue.
Wonder if maybe the rear wheels have been backed into a few too many gutters at parking time...? :hide:

You mean that age old saying!!! Park by feel!!

Mike

[alian]

I remember reading a thread/ warning on this site when the Ve 1st come out to go and get the car wheel alignment done as there was alot cars wearing out tyres. Bridgstone had issued a letter saying that alot of there drive cars were out of alignment when checked.The parrameters that Holden allow r not the same aswhat say Pedders would use.We had just bought a new SS so we went and had it done. They had to make a few adjustments. So if holden say the alignment is ok. 4 the price of tyres these days I would get a second opinion. My 2c worth Ian

[Louie_D]

I figured burnouts aswell but theres not one little spec of rubber spray under the guards..

[Big_Valven]

Well that just means someone's a good cleaner, after all you wouldn't want to leave evidence of the crime...

I wish my tyres were BOLD too, they're much to shy from the factory. :rofl::jester:

[Brockfan05]

Sounds like something is definitely wrong. 9000km is not much. I had my SS wheel aligned the day I picked it up (was an early 06 model) and got 37000km out of the tyres and I wasnt gentle with them.

[racketsports]

There is a diff cradle alignment issue on some of the earlier models which caused the rears to wear earlier than they should. I had mine fixed after scrubbing my rears out after 24K with no real hard driving. Seems to have fixed the problem as the new REO50A's are wearing fine. There is a holden tech bulliten on it, just do a search for VE holden diff cradle.

Cheers
Racketsports

[Black Diamond]

The earlier Models had a problem with rear bushes that allowed the rear toe-in to increase under acceleration. Although the camber/toe values might be set correctly when the car is stationery, ie on the alignment hoist, the damage happens when the ass end squats.

Holden addressed this problem on later models, and have a fix for the earlier models which consist of different design bushes.

Contact your holden dealer and book it in. :)

cheers

John

[Louie_D]

Turns out it was a tow in problem as a few of you guys mentioned, not sure how it works but was told the tow in was on 20 and should be on 0. Anyway Booran Holden dealt with the situation well, fixing the problem and fitting new tyres. Anyone want some slicks as a late xmas gift lol.:xmas:

[planetdavo]

Anyone want some slicks as a late xmas gift lol.:xmas:
Maybe someone could make a kids swinging rope and tyre out of one, as they are a Bridgestone...:rofl:
A good outcome for you.

[eldan89]

delete... didn't read properly.

[planetdavo]

I know this may sound silly, but could someone have swapped over her wheels and tyres without her knowing? I know dealerships to some pretty dodgy things. Also is the car left outside over night? Check the manufacture date on the tyres and see if the front / rears match. Or if they are older than they should be.
We have a conspiracy theorist. Did man ever actually reach the moon? :hide:
Probably a fair bit of a long shot this one, with the well known early VE rear tyre wear issues.

[mustanger]

delete... didn't read properly.

ha ha , no need to delete :rofl::rofl:

[alian]

Turns out it was a tow in problem as a few of you guys mentioned, not sure how it works but was told the tow in was on 20 and should be on 0. Anyway Booran Holden dealt with the situation well, fixing the problem and fitting new tyres. Anyone want some slicks as a late xmas gift lol.:xmas:

Good to hear they came up with the goods. Everyone loves a happy ending.
Cheers Ian

[BruceSS]

Turns out it was a tow in problem as a few of you guys mentioned, not sure how it works but was told the tow in was on 20 and should be on 0. Anyway Booran Holden dealt with the situation well, fixing the problem and fitting new tyres. Anyone want some slicks as a late xmas gift lol.:xmas:

Did they charge for the tyres?

[WW-VFSSVR]

:bawl: Just checked the SV6 wagon's tyres out and at 10900 the rear tyres are 75% used - front are like new. Traction Control has never been off! I did however have a wheel alignment when the car had 3139kms (first Service) and I have a readout with specs below


all figures Before Adjustment / After Adjustment
Camber Rear Axle
Left -0°26’ / -0°37’
Right -1°08' / -0°43’

Toe Rear Axle
Left +0°02' / +0°18'
Right -0°02' / +0°.18'
Total -0°01' / +0°36'

Geometrical Drive Axis (Thrust) Rear Axle
-0°02' / #

Looking at other posts, maybe the newer wheel alignment was not done correctly :confused: Does anyone know? The wheel alignment was done because the steering wheel was off centre from new :vpo:

[HSVGTS215i]

Rear alignment isnt touched to correct the steering wheel, front toe is changed to rectify this..

[TIR33D]

Rear alignment isnt touched to correct the steering wheel, front toe is changed to rectify this..

Yes but no, the thrust of the car has an effect on the steering wheel.

[blown ls1]

Yes but no, the thrust of the car has an effect on the steering wheel.

have to agree there phil. thrust it more slid it more, that should help steering?

[WW-VFSSVR]

HSVGTS - this is what I first thought.....:vpo:

If anyone masters the wheel alignment world, could you have a look at the specs above an comment?? I am a little :confused: