XR6T fanboy shutdown

[RUN41T]

Hey guys, One of my good mates bought a xr6t a while back and has been saying he will smoke the SS anytime anywhere...... So we took it to the track, Heres what happened. This was my best run of the night, i struggled a bit on 205 tyres though

YouTube - VYSS smokes XR6T @WSID (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxph0U7ho6M)

[payaya]

Any why would your friend think his BA XR6 is quicker when its factual numbers are slower than an SS?

[Dane VN V8]

Hahaha what time did he actually get? And what's is his excuse?

:goodjob:

[255-LS1]

haha listen to the commentator "reactions times really lazy, rekon i could get out there and do a better job"

[Holden Man]

Looks like he got a crap start (no boost) but them seemed to stay with the pace, so if he got a better start he might keep up next time.

Your car sounds good BTW

[RUN41T]

Looks like he got a crap start (no boost) but them seemed to stay with the pace, so if he got a better start he might keep up next time.

Your car sounds good BTW

He ran low 14's all night, This particular one was a 14.2 from memory, He was sayoing that because its manual he cant get it on boost off the line... No such problem for the 8 :jester: Torque all the way

[rosey]

haha nice work, he's got no excuse now. be careful when he winds up the boost, unfortunately they're quite fast when that happens :flipoff:

[RUN41T]

haha nice work, he's got no excuse now. be careful when he winds up the boost, unfortunately they're quite fast when that happens :flipoff:

He has, Its not a stocker, Has a cooler upgrade, injectors, valve springs, exhaust and a flash, pretty sure its running 10PSI

[iloveholden]

haha good one ya mate.....V8s are fun off the line as there is power all the time :)

[wyldnyt]

He has, Its not a stocker, Has a cooler upgrade, injectors, valve springs, exhaust and a flash, pretty sure its running 10PSI

if he had all of that done dude trust me he'd be running alot faster than a 14.2, he'd be low 13's for sure.

Good work on beatn your mate tho, woulda made it twice as good to as soon as he was talkn it up lol :goodjob: :goodjob:

[RUN41T]

if he had all of that done dude trust me he'd be running alot faster than a 14.2, he'd be low 13's for sure.

Good work on beatn your mate tho, woulda made it twice as good to as soon as he was talkn it up lol :goodjob: :goodjob:

Thats the thing, he has done em', I have his dyno sheet here with 304Kw, But it make **** all torque, He must just be a rbbish driver :)

[Souljah]

Nice run garrett. Next time run with your M/T's. Cheese cutters go on the front, not rear :) How did you go with your launches? Did you up the revs like i suggested?
We'll have to organise another outing. Im sure Chris would like to embarress another Clubby in his gas fired Berlina haha.

Cheers,
Brendo

[bush_basha]

nice work, its always great to see a holden beat a ford

[smokiebbear]

Thats the thing, he has done em', I have his dyno sheet here with 304Kw, But it make **** all torque, He must just be a rbbish driver :)

If he really had 300rwkw then he would run 12's piece of piss no matter how bad his start was. What was his mph across the line? With a genuine 300rwkw should easily be well over 110mph+. I think he has just found a happy dyno. If he's running 14's then he'd struggle to put down 230rwkw on a genuine dyno.

[Road Warrior]

He has, Its not a stocker, Has a cooler upgrade, injectors, valve springs, exhaust and a flash, pretty sure its running 10PSI

And he's only doing low 14's??? Sounds like someone can't drive :jester:

[planetdavo]

He ran low 14's all night, This particular one was a 14.2 from memory, He was sayoing that because its manual he cant get it on boost off the line... No such problem for the 8 :jester: Torque all the way
It doesn't matter what brand of car is involved when a drag race is involved.
There's always a "100% true, I swear" reason why the loser didn't win...:rofl:

[arronm]

What was his MPH This will tell you his true power. You only pulled 104 mph and he wasn't catching you. Anyhow its good to beat your mate.

[TAKEITEZ]

well done for three things...

1 - getting out and having a go...
2 - beating your mate who thought his car was faster than yours...
3 - doing it legally on the drag strip where this kind of thing can be done safely :) :)

[VEbudSS]

And he's only doing low 14's??? Sounds like someone can't drive :jester:

you can see he bogged the launch! he would have had no boost after that!

[HSV590]

If he really had 300rwkw then he would run 12's piece of piss no matter how bad his start was. What was his mph across the line? With a genuine 300rwkw should easily be well over 110mph+. I think he has just found a happy dyno. If he's running 14's then he'd struggle to put down 230rwkw on a genuine dyno.

Exactly..300rwkw for 14's, I'd want my money back...My piddly 221rwkw got me a 13.8 and I cant drive either!!
Mark

[iloveholden]

Yep sounds like your mate has found a very happy dyno mixed with his shit dirivng to do 14's :rofl:

[seedyrom]

well done for three things...

1 - getting out and having a go...
2 - beating your mate who thought his car was faster than yours...
3 - doing it legally on the drag strip where this kind of thing can be done safely :) :)



best post in the thread

[CarlFST60L]

Would be good to see the guys mph and dyno sheet as he may be been ripped off by who ever did the work to it, or, maybe he really needs some advice from someone that has ran the numbers.

In saying that, it seems more and more people these days dont realise how difficult it is for a novice racer to get any true street trim car into even into the 12's, yet so many people talk about it like its easy but have never actually done it themselves. I have seen and raced plenty of modified cars of all types that would be lucky to crack a low high 12 which i know the record's for those mod's could be 11, 12 seconds or what ever. But I guess everyone always expects them to run what ever the record holders which shows a little lack of respect for the record holders talent, knowledge, and experince to get those records.

Good to see you guys on the track having it out. Now to get that XR6t with a geniune 330kwrw, and go get a nice H+C package on that LS1 for about $6K, drop some ET streets on and you'll both be in the 11's, well, the LS1 will be anyway :hide:

[nang3]

He has, Its not a stocker, Has a cooler upgrade, injectors, valve springs, exhaust and a flash, pretty sure its running 10PSI

ROFL that and running a 14.2 ?? sounds like he needs to work on his driving skills!!

good on ya for putting ya big mouth mate in his place too haha.. although if he really has those mods and 300+rwkw better make sure he doesnt learn to steer anytime soon haha

[WildBHaviour]

Good to see a holden win over a ford.
A mate of mine has a vy s pac auto factory supercharged with nothing more than a 2.5 inch exhaust and modified c.a.i and he ran a b.p of 14.3 102mph at calder park with standard road 18inch tyres. he recently upgraded to a 10 psi pulley and a tune and is now putting out 220kw at the engine and 167rwkw.
Hasent been to the strip to see what times he will get but im shore he will hit the 13.8 mark pretty easy.

[flappist]

Launching a manual XR6T or F6 is a bit of a party trick. It requires lots of clutch slipping or it will either drop out of boost and bog or spin madly. Finding the middle ground is a bit of a black art.

They also dump boost at every gear change which does not help.

It took me about 10 goes to get under 14 at willobank in my F6 back in 2005. It was not until mark12 watched what was happening and advised me that I got a 13.

The auto BFs are far easier to launch which is probably why most of the drag queens drive autos.....

[FireArc]

And he's only doing low 14's??? Sounds like someone can't drive :jester:

Totally agree. My wife did 13.0 in her XR6T and it has a tune only. Just 256rwkw. Though she has the 6speed auto which is pretty good...but even then it should be a high 12 to low 13 car if he has that much power!

So if he has more than 300rwkw he either can't drive or has an AWFUL tuner (as you mentioned it had bugger all Torque??)

Nice work anyway mate, it's always nice having a win over your mate hehe. Make sure he doesn't live it down! lol

[crtx]

the guy in the ford either couldn't drive or a shit house tune. xr6t at 300kw should be done alot better even auto.

[AFAR]

You guys should have swapped cars that night after that one.

My mate has a XR6T (BA) and with only 240-245(cant remember) rwkw ran a 13.6 with a manual too.

[troytroy]

Did the SS have slicks on? or standard road tyres?

If the SS had non-standard tyres compared to standard 17" on the Ford then IMHO it wasn't a fair/equal race.....(if that's at all possible)

Modified XR6T/F6 produce that much torque at a low rpm they need slicks to get out of the hole......hence possibly the tardy start and what everyone else said about difficulty in maintaining balance between slip and boost drop off.

I like how the presenter said "he could've done better himself" yet couldn't identify the difference between an XR6T and an XR8, something my 6 yo daughter can (lack of Bonnet hump would've been a good start)

[VIXEN-T]

if he has a T5 manual and not a T56 that would explain why he as fk all torque the T5s are pretty pissweak they dont like alot of torque, there arent many xr6ts with T5s out there that will do a great time at the track. Manual xr6ts are nowhere near as quick as the autos they tend to drop boost between gear changes and are a pig to get off the line. With 296rwkw in my 4sp auto xr6t i did a 12.6 @ 116.5mph with a 2.24 60ft on street tyres on a 25 degree day. Better tyres and a colder day should see me dip below 2.0 60ft and a low 12/high 11 pass big difference to manual.

[ratter]

XR6T will need more than 10 psi to make 300 rwkw

[VIXEN-T]

thats also true mick!

[RUN41T]

Did the SS have slicks on? or standard road tyres?

If the SS had non-standard tyres compared to standard 17" on the Ford then IMHO it wasn't a fair/equal race.....(if that's at all possible)

Modified XR6T/F6 produce that much torque at a low rpm they need slicks to get out of the hole......hence possibly the tardy start and what everyone else said about difficulty in maintaining balance between slip and boost drop off.

I like how the presenter said "he could've done better himself" yet couldn't identify the difference between an XR6T and an XR8, something my 6 yo daughter can (lack of Bonnet hump would've been a good start)


I was running on 205 cheescutters, Hense the wheel spin through 2nd and into 3rd

[T2000]

Good result Garrett!

I might have to drag another XR6T fanboi with me next time we head up... took him for a drive in my barge and because the torque & power delivery is sooo smooth he thought it felt slow :confused:. He was pretty confident his stock BA would beat it!
:rofl:

Good to see your axles held together! :1peek:

What tyre pressures were you running?


Nice run garrett. Next time run with your M/T's. Cheese cutters go on the front, not rear :) How did you go with your launches? Did you up the revs like i suggested?
We'll have to organise another outing. Im sure Chris would like to embarress another Clubby in his gas fired Berlina haha.

Cheers,
Brendo

You know it Brendo... I got a bit of the bug after last time!
A little bit more tinkering, some cooler temps & 17's on the rear should drop my ET a few tenths.

Anyone know how to introduce a bit of NOS into the LPG tank???
(Just jokes BTW)

We might have to start an EOI thread for SC locals wanting/ willing to have a run then cruise up together... maybe late Feb, early March?


Regards

Chris

[richierichhsv]

Hey guys, One of my good mates bought a xr6t a while back and has been saying he will smoke the SS anytime anywhere...... So we took it to the track, Heres what happened. This was my best run of the night, i struggled a bit on 205 tyres though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxph0U7ho6M

I couldnt see what mods u have done and rwkw's?

[Oldmate83]

Hahaha i think the looser has posted in the comments section. He says "I wasn't reving it past 4,000rpm. LOL right... this is a drag race mate.

[iamhappy46]

you can see he bogged the launch! he would have had no boost after that!

Typical ford driver excuses... short changing, IC pipe blew off with the 30psi boost I was running to make 300rwKw, etc

He lost after bragging his car was super fast... keep up the good work run61t and keep ahead of the friendly competition ;)

[bohdentrov]

If he really had 300rwkw then he would run 12's piece of piss no matter how bad his start was. What was his mph across the line? With a genuine 300rwkw should easily be well over 110mph+. I think he has just found a happy dyno. If he's running 14's then he'd struggle to put down 230rwkw on a genuine dyno.

i agree:1peek:

[SHANESVZSS]

great effort beating your mate champ.. my mate also has a ba xr6t with same mods as your mate and he swears blind that he'l chop me :confused:

[Berlinator]

He has, Its not a stocker, Has a cooler upgrade, injectors, valve springs, exhaust and a flash, pretty sure its running 10PSI

Not having a shot at you or your mate at all but if the XR has these mods and yours was stock, he should have beat you. Running a low 14 with those mods, he should have been into low 13's. He totally bogged down at the start.

Those mods should see him with about 280-290rwkw and 600nm. He is right about the auto. The autos are quicker.

Your mate has embarrased a lot of T owners


Cheers

[GODSMACK]

Maybe the guy driving the XR6T had his A/C running at the time....

[SHANESVZSS]

280-290 rwkw??... i thought 250rwkw was the norm for these mods??.. happy to be corrected tho..

[Berlinator]

XR6T will need more than 10 psi to make 300 rwkw

Agreed....at least 13-14


280-290 rwkw??... i thought 250rwkw was the norm for these mods??.. happy to be corrected tho..

Your right. I was actually being generous because 10psi just doesn't seem right. It seems odd that his tuner only boosted it to 10lb unless there was AFR problems. That would be the only reason.

Why spend all that money, (approx. $5000) and not get its' full potential. He should be safe at 12. He did the injectors. The pump will easily cope at that power.

280-290 rwkw is expected for 12psi with intercooler upgrade.

Cheers

[nang3]

maybe the tuner kept it at 10 psi so the T5 doesnt blow??? they are known to be a weak box, i think 250rwkw is the general safe limit compared to about 400-450rwkw for the T56

[Berlinator]

maybe the tuner kept it at 10 psi so the T5 doesnt blow??? they are known to be a weak box, i think 250rwkw is the general safe limit compared to about 400-450rwkw for the T56

Yeah good point. I have heard guys running anywhere from 300-350 rwkw with the T5 :confused: ...good luck with that.

[nang3]

ROFL 300-350rwkw with a T5 ???????


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[TUFGN3]

you both run what you brung (as the saying goes) and clearly he didnt bring enough!

[jonnyd1986]

Nice work mate. Gear changes on the holden were pretty slow though. Not sure about the ford could hear it.

Jon

[nang3]

you both run what you brung (as the saying goes) and clearly he didnt bring enough!

haha yeh he left his driving skills at home!