Got Yellow Stickered

[chair_recliner]

got yellow stickered the other night coming home from work, the coppers heard me accelerate up to 100 so they pulled me over to have a look. the car is probably 2cm too low so i got done for that (fair enough), he also looked and had a hear of my exhaust, he said it was too loud and louder than a cammed car even though it just has a set of pacemaker 4 into 1 extractors into pacemaker cats into a x-force 2.5" cat back. he didn't take a second look at my otrcai but aren't they illegal too, i'm not sure what to do next this is my first time getting yellow stickered, should i take it through the pits and see what i need to get done to it or should i just fix the ride height and reduce the sound of the exhaust

[diabolic]

I could be wrong but I thought OTRs were only illegal in terms of EPA (emissions)? Since most don't have MAFs etc..

Anyway, my mate got done for suspension.. Make sure you get it JACKED UP before you go through, he had to swap springs twice because even with Kings Lows which are supposed to be legal, they said it was too low. Also, he has an OTR and the guy wasn't worried about that.

Did they put about the exhaust on the report? My mate's car was loud as hell but they didn't say anything about it when he went over the pits.. If it's not on the report I wouldn't worry, otherwise you'd better swap it.

Make sure you don't have any other obvious stuff before you go through.. Massive monster tacho's etc, they made him take his off before they'd pass it.. Can't remember the exact reason for that, though.

Cheers,
Dan

[A^K^T]

I would sort the ride height and noise as i know of at least one car that has gone over the pits at Welspool for WA rego and they didn't question the OTR (it was also a little on the loud side , but that's just my opinion) .

It also wouldn't hurt to check it over and give it a clean under the bonnet and under the car if there are any oil weeps .

[bush_basha]

sorry to high jack this thread, but i have a question, maybe a stupid question at that but you know..., is it possible to wedge the springs in between a couple of the rings as to pass something like this, to make it higher, there for less work and money to change it back to standard, or would it be dangerous/would they check that out? cheers

[diabolic]

sorry to high jack this thread, but i have a question, maybe a stupid question at that but you know..., is it possible to wedge the springs in between a couple of the rings as to pass something like this, to make it higher, there for less work and money to change it back to standard, or would it be dangerous/would they check that out? cheers
Well, when you drive over the pit and the bloke goes underneath to check for oil drips etc, you're gonna be kinda SCREWED.. And by kinda, I mean majorly :)

Dan

[Spider]

sorry to high jack this thread, but i have a question, maybe a stupid question at that but you know..., is it possible to wedge the springs in between a couple of the rings as to pass something like this, to make it higher, there for less work and money to change it back to standard, or would it be dangerous/would they check that out? cheers

These spacers would work and you could take them out after its cleared...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/TUF73/coilspringspacers.jpg

Would they check for something like that??

[diabolic]

These spacers would work and you could take them out after its cleared...
http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/TUF73/coilspringspacers.jpg

Would they check for something like that??
If you car is way too low I'm not sure a few mm is gonna make enough difference, though?

Dan

[Spider]

If you car is way too low I'm not sure a few mm is gonna make enough difference, though?

Dan

Yeah true. Lucky i've still got my fe2's if i ever get pinched for low ride height :)

[HSV Manta]

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Did they put about the exhaust on the report? My mate's car was loud as hell but they didn't say anything about it when he went over the pits.. If it's not on the report I wouldn't worry, otherwise you'd better swap it.

Make sure you don't have any other obvious stuff before you go through.. Massive monster tacho's etc, they made him take his off before they'd pass it.. Can't remember the exact reason for that, though.

Cheers,
Dan

The vehicle examiner will examine the ENTIRE vehicle regardless what is on the order issued by the coppers.

Given the latest WA Corruption and Crime Commission investigation into vehicle examination centres you can be sure it will be very thorough...

I deal with a alot of vehicle examiners...some of them are absolutley sh@tting bricks ATM

Monster Tacho's may impede vision out the front windscreen....

[DR-vyss-108]

a std x-force 2.5" too loud?? geez i would hate to see what they would do to me

[VESS60]

got yellow stickered the other night coming home from work, the coppers heard me accelerate up to 100 so they pulled me over to have a look. the car is probably 2cm too low so i got done for that (fair enough), he also looked and had a hear of my exhaust, he said it was too loud and louder than a cammed car even though it just has a set of pacemaker 4 into 1 extractors into pacemaker cats into a x-force 2.5" cat back. he didn't take a second look at my otrcai but aren't they illegal too, i'm not sure what to do next this is my first time getting yellow stickered, should i take it through the pits and see what i need to get done to it or should i just fix the ride height and reduce the sound of the exhaust

Just put original springs back in and just change from the cat back. That will quiet it down a lot. If you dont have the cat back system, maybe a sponsor will have 1 laying around.

[diabolic]

The vehicle examiner will examine the ENTIRE vehicle regardless what is on the order issued by the coppers.

Given the latest WA Corruption and Crime Commission investigation into vehicle examination centres you can be sure it will be very thorough...

I deal with a alot of vehicle examiners...some of them are absolutley sh@tting bricks ATM

Monster Tacho's may impede vision out the front windscreen....
I think it's pretty obvious that not EVERY examiner will check EVERYTHING.

Like I said, my mates car is WAY over the limit in terms of loudness, and wasn't picked on by one of the main licensing centers in WA.

Dan

[HSV Manta]

I think it's pretty obvious that not EVERY examiner will check EVERYTHING.

Like I said, my mates car is WAY over the limit in terms of loudness, and wasn't picked on by one of the main licensing centers in WA.

Dan

Point taken. Thats why a number of examiners have been investigated and charged.

Many previously inspected vehicles were required to be re-examined

Some reading..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/01/27/2475647.htm?site=local

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=121416

A duly appointed vehicle examiner working in WA as an agent of DPI (WA) is required to conform with the WA's Vehicle Standard Regulations..simply put the entire vehicle is to be examined. That is what they are paid to do.

The fact that many weren't necessitated the corruption enquiry.

Maybe your mates examiner was one of those under investigation....

Cheers

Steve

[VXXXSS]

Monster Tacho's may impede vision out the front windscreen....

sorry to be off topic a bit, but in regards to that comment. i know many ppl have been defected for having tachos mounted in the corner between the a pillar and the dash, and for having gauge cups/pods up the A-pillar. so whats the difference these days with people having SATNAVS and GPS units mounted right in the middle of their windscreens?? i never see those people being pulled over....

Chris.

[Mr_SS-V]

i think if i remember correctly after once having a chat with a officer when i was defected back in the day.. guages are fine on the dash long as they are mounted below they highest point of the dash line (ie- the top of your speedo) and not inline of the front passagers side.. i used that excuse for the next time i was pulled up on them and then was not defected for them.. and as we know not on the bonnet incase you strike a pedestrain... dont know how much more damage a guage will do to you after you have been collected by the rest of the car lol :)



as for satnavs they are considered as a driving aid... so if you have you tv open displaying road maps your fine.. but if your watching ur favourite porn its a different story....

[05_ENFORCER]

IMO fix whatever is written on the defect notice and then see what happens.
Oh yeah, make sure you are very nice to the fella that inspects your vehicle.

[VXXXSS]

as for satnavs they are considered as a driving aid...

wouldnt a tacho be considered a driving aid also??

i thought it was a vision thing primarily, and to me a hugeass satnav unit in the middle of ur vision would be more dangerous than a small tacho in the bottom corner of ur dash.

ah well, who knows. when they wana get u they will get u!

chris.

[KPWISHN]

Well bad news is apparently all vehicles that get yellowed in WA from a few days ago on need to have emmision tests performed. Anyone worth listening too know anything about this that can elaborate with facts?

[diabolic]

Well bad news is apparently all vehicles that get yellowed in WA from a few days ago on need to have emmision tests performed. Anyone worth listening too know anything about this that can elaborate with facts?
Isn't an emissions test quite expensive?

[VYSHSV8]

Not sure Lewis but I have heard that alot of cop cars now carry a Db meter starting only recently

[KPWISHN]

Isn't an emissions test quite expensive?

Yes. But apparently if it is for a yellow it is paid for by Gov. KEC are the ones that are pushing it. More info on their website.

[duke5700]

What i don't understand is why KEC would won't to do that? They build hi-performance engines that won't pass emissions???????????????????

[A^K^T]

What i don't understand is why KEC would won't to do that? They build hi-performance engines that won't pass emissions???????????????????

Looking at their site they have the ability to do the emissions test , it's part of their sales pitch .

[OPTIMUS]

If you have a standard airbox wack that on if u don't wanna risk it plug maf in obviously as u still need iat reading.

[Street_Tuna]

Well bad news is apparently all vehicles that get yellowed in WA from a few days ago on need to have emmision tests performed. Anyone worth listening too know anything about this that can elaborate with facts?

This is the way the whole country will go eventually. The revenue stream is vast, the work non-intensive, and the governments investment in IM240 emissions test gear (like the millions they have spent here in SA at Regency Park) will be quickly paid off by modified cars owners.

We have done some in-service IM240 testing with different cars at KEC (verifying our original pass for Euro III) and it is indeed a tough test. Mainline users will be able to get a brief heads up with their inbuilt emissions testing and have an indea what they are up against.
Pray that what you hear is a rumour KPWISHN :)

[A^K^T]

This is the way the whole country will go eventually. The revenue stream is vast, the work non-intensive, and the governments investment in IM240 emissions test gear (like the millions they have spent here in SA at Regency Park) will be quickly paid off by modified cars owners.

We have done some in-service IM240 testing with different cars at KEC (verifying our original pass for Euro III) and it is indeed a tough test. Mainline users will be able to get a brief heads up with their inbuilt emissions testing and have an indea what they are up against.
Pray that what you hear is a rumour KPWISHN :)

Do unmodified cars general pass this test without too much trouble ?

[Street_Tuna]

Do unmodified cars general pass this test without too much trouble ?

It depends....but a TOTALLY stock car....normally yes...

[KPWISHN]

Pray that what you hear is a rumour KPWISHN :)

Haha, I'm under no illusions that mine will pass. The people that are being fed the compliant spill will be the dissappointed ones.

[monaro_mad]

What i don't understand is why KEC would won't to do that? They build hi-performance engines that won't pass emissions???????????????????

Yea i don't get it either?? Must be some money in it for them...

As Tuna has pointed out the level of testing done in SA, its only a matter of time emissions testing is done here & the rest of Australia, maybe not in the immediate future but eventually (hope im wrong tho) Would be interesting to know if WA has stepped the emissions testing come inspection time.

The market is a good barometer, more money spent on manufacturing emissions compliant kits when there were few (if any) available few years ago.

[michaels1v8]

I would put on a stock catback, raise the thing and throw in the stock air box and maf pipe as well as plug it in. Someone of the forum probably has the stock parts if you dont so put up a wanted ad. Its inconvenient enough getting a sticker let alone having to play around with it. Try to get it done in one go.

Also anyone got some proper details on this emissions testing thing for a yellow?

I cant find anything on the DPI site at all.

Going to put an end to a lot of cam only packages I reckon :(

[chillicatqld]

Ride height has to have a ground clearance of 100mm doesnt it?
Can someone tell me how they are lowering their VE's when I see the clearance on the Sportwagon (and I guess the others are similar) is already just 110mm!!

PS: Obviously if you don't care how low it is then that is the answer... but can they be legally lowered? Or just by that 10mm margin?

[michaels1v8]

From what I have been told, when lowering, even though the car is at legal height it can still be found as unroadworthy if you have used the stock shocks because the level of suspension travel has been shortened....


Or something like that

Most people that lower it are doing it for the looks and the legalities behind lowering are not a concern to them

[harey]

Pretty sure the law is you are not allowed to reduced a car's suspension travel by more than 1/3. Nothing to do with that shocks you use.