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Louie_D
02-03-2009, 10:13 PM
Could someone please tell me the specs on the VCM V-8 Cam

HSVQUE
02-03-2009, 10:29 PM
Why don't you just buy the cam? You think people put in the hard work testing cams so others can steel there specs?

Louie_D
02-03-2009, 10:37 PM
Lol, by asking for the specs people are generally talking about the duration/lift and theres more to making a cam than just duration mate. Besides, why whould i buy a cam without knowing the specs? "why dont you just buy the cam" lol i like that.

ova400
02-03-2009, 10:42 PM
Why not just call them or pop in, there is a reason why they don't give the specs out - cause it does cost alot of money on research. If you are a serious buyer I'm sure they will help you out with some rough numbers, but yes they most likely won't give you the exact specs and they don't have to.

Louie_D
02-03-2009, 11:07 PM
Yeah fair enough, ill give them a call

S2VYSS
02-03-2009, 11:20 PM
I dont think they make a V-8, I know they make a V-7 cam

Brett SS
03-03-2009, 06:29 AM
Hey mate,

The VCM Stage 8 cam specs are: 239/244, .605/.607, 112LSA.

I don't think there is anything secret about them and I would never buy a cam myself either without knowing atleast the above information.

Also I think VCM Suite are going to be updating their whole cam range soon so maybe give them a call anyway just to suss them out.

Brett.

crtx
03-03-2009, 07:49 AM
Yeah fair enough, ill give them a call



Louie,

Thats the one i have in my car its little smaller than your current one.

S2VYSS
03-03-2009, 09:39 AM
Sorry for the wrong info, I thought they only went up to stage 7.

What cam do you currently have in your car, if this one is smaller? :confused:

Louie_D
03-03-2009, 09:42 AM
Hey mate,

The VCM Stage 8 cam specs are: 239/244, .605/.607, 112LSA.

I don't think there is anything secret about them and I would never buy a cam myself either without knowing atleast the above information.

Also I think VCM Suite are going to be updating their whole cam range soon so maybe give them a call anyway just to suss them out.

Brett.

Cheers Brett, some people are a little confused. If that was the case why does GMM have the specs on their site...


Louie,

Thats the one i have in my car its little smaller than your current one.

I thought you had the V-7 Bill?


Sorry for the wrong info, I thought they only went up to stage 7.

What cam do you currently have in your car, if this one is smaller? :confused:

Nah i think his got the V7 Correct me if im wrong. Ive got a Come Cam 232/242 which is decent but only .550" intake lift and .559" exhaust lift which is pretty small. I just purchased a cam from the states which is 232/240 with .595 .609 lift along with some dart 225cc heads and got them ported by flow craft (awesome job) along with some 3.9 gears since the cars now an M6 aswell as a ripshift, new lifters, valve sprigns, push rods, YT roller rockers, textralia Z Grip and a few other bits and pieces. Cars also being tuned on E85 so ill let yas know how it all goes once tuned. Fuel systems also getting upgraded as it sucks around 30% more fuel on ethanol.

crtx
03-03-2009, 12:49 PM
sorry
i do have the stage 7 didn't know they had a 8 out, a stage 8 would be a pig on the street. at those specs.

S2VYSS
03-03-2009, 04:49 PM
Nah i think his got the V7 Correct me if im wrong. Ive got a Come Cam 232/242 which is decent but only .550" intake lift and .559" exhaust lift which is pretty small. I just purchased a cam from the states which is 232/240 with .595 .609 lift along with some dart 225cc heads and got them ported by flow craft (awesome job) along with some 3.9 gears since the cars now an M6 aswell as a ripshift, new lifters, valve sprigns, push rods, YT roller rockers, textralia Z Grip and a few other bits and pieces. Cars also being tuned on E85 so ill let yas know how it all goes once tuned. Fuel systems also getting upgraded as it sucks around 30% more fuel on ethanol.

Thats a fair upgrade. Who is doing the work for you? Will be interesting to see what power it makes on E85

Louie_D
03-03-2009, 06:43 PM
HP-F is putting it all together and having it tuned at Chip Control as he has done my brothers car on E85 and is familier with it. Ive purchased a flex fuel sensor which allows the LS1's to automatically switch over tunes depending on what fuels in the car. So mine will be tuned on Ultimate and E85 which is found at hoppers crossing United. Ill post up the dyno graph once its all done.

S2VYSS
03-03-2009, 06:50 PM
This might seem like a stupid question, but what happens if there is a mix on the 2 fuels in the tank, what fuel table is used?

VCMSWT
03-03-2009, 07:16 PM
Could someone please tell me the specs on the VCM V-8 Cam

For the record, we've been working on increasing our cam range for some time now and within a week will be releasing them to the tuning shops that use our cams.

We're looking at incorporating a few new forced induction cams, and some additional split combos.

We only recently released a blower friendly number offering 224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa. It's a ball tearer specifically for forced.

Our VCM-5 has gained great success lately. notably at a couple of far north workshops where on VE SS L98's with quality OTR and pipes they have been punching out consistant figures in excess of 340 rwkW. The workshops suggesting they have performed considerable testing on pipe lengths, OTR intakes and so forth.

Now I have no interest in trying to substantiate claims as these are the figures given to me from 2 seperate workshops, so we can only go with the information given.

In any case the claims are that the cars are rockets.

Cheers.

Louie_D
03-03-2009, 08:46 PM
This might seem like a stupid question, but what happens if there is a mix on the 2 fuels in the tank, what fuel table is used?

Ill get back to yah on that one, im not sure but probably pulls timing or something.


For the record, we've been working on increasing our cam range for some time now and within a week will be releasing them to the tuning shops that use our cams.

We're looking at incorporating a few new forced induction cams, and some additional split combos.

We only recently released a blower friendly number offering 224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa. It's a ball tearer specifically for forced.

Our VCM-5 has gained great success lately. notably at a couple of far north workshops where on VE SS L98's with quality OTR and pipes they have been punching out consistant figures in excess of 340 rwkW. The workshops suggesting they have performed considerable testing on pipe lengths, OTR intakes and so forth.

Now I have no interest in trying to substantiate claims as these are the figures given to me from 2 seperate workshops, so we can only go with the information given.

In any case the claims are that the cars are rockets.

Cheers.

If only i knew i would have held out to see what grinds are being released

S2VYSS
13-03-2009, 01:21 PM
For the record, we've been working on increasing our cam range for some time now and within a week will be releasing them to the tuning shops that use our cams.

We're looking at incorporating a few new forced induction cams, and some additional split combos.

We only recently released a blower friendly number offering 224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa. It's a ball tearer specifically for forced.

Cheers.

Have you guys done any testing yet with the blower friendly cam? Do you guys offer something bigger then that for a blower application?

VCMSWT
13-03-2009, 02:41 PM
Have you guys done any testing yet with the blower friendly cam? Do you guys offer something bigger then that for a blower application?

Yep, we can also offer:

233/238 .596" .602" 114

HYMEY
07-04-2009, 06:40 PM
For the record, we've been working on increasing our cam range for some time now and within a week will be releasing them to the tuning shops that use our cams.

We're looking at incorporating a few new forced induction cams, and some additional split combos.

We only recently released a blower friendly number offering 224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa. It's a ball tearer specifically for forced.

Our VCM-5 has gained great success lately. notably at a couple of far north workshops where on VE SS L98's with quality OTR and pipes they have been punching out consistant figures in excess of 340 rwkW. The workshops suggesting they have performed considerable testing on pipe lengths, OTR intakes and so forth.

Now I have no interest in trying to substantiate claims as these are the figures given to me from 2 seperate workshops, so we can only go with the information given.

In any case the claims are that the cars are rockets.

Cheers.

The VCM 5 is a 228/232 /114? on .597" lift? I spoke to David the other week I am contemplating one of these cams you had sold out of them, I want to do some more testing with mine before I upgrade.

That is a great cam and yes it will work nicely gives heaps of topend. A guy uses it in the states but a comp cams grind on xer lobes installed on 114ICL with L92 heads on LS2 bottom end and it makes consistently 470rwhp on a dynojet.

ssdamo
07-04-2009, 06:58 PM
Yep, we can also offer:

233/238 .596" .602" 114

would this cam be ok in a n/a motor with plans to go F/I in the future ?

VCMSWT
08-04-2009, 09:45 AM
would this cam be ok in a n/a motor with plans to go F/I in the future ?

Would work fine.

Just completed a test with another grind mentioned in this thread (224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa) on a 5.7 with OTR, pipes, Maf-less tune with the engine backed by a 4500rpm converter and built auto. Point being, a large converter typically 'drags' a fair bit out of the final power output figure.

Anyway, running a figure of around 240 rwkw before, with the new cam (remembering it is designed with Forced in mind) it delivered 280 to the treads. Remove the converter and theory suggests a figure more like 300+.

RED R8
08-04-2009, 10:42 PM
I have the V7 in my VE LS2 and 427rwhp with great manners keeps my very happy.

S2VYSS
09-04-2009, 08:57 PM
Would be interesting to see 233/238 .596" .602" 114 in a NA motor if the smaller blower cam would pull around 300rwkw

We might need to talk soon Greg

hsv-105
09-04-2009, 09:13 PM
Would be interesting to see 233/238 .596" .602" 114 in a NA motor if the smaller blower cam would pull around 300rwkw

We might need to talk soon Greg

Would be interesting to see you stop talking and start walking fella - :fishing:

Brett SS
09-04-2009, 09:18 PM
Just completed a test with another grind mentioned in this thread (224/232, .580/.590 and 114.5 lsa) on a 5.7 with OTR, pipes, Maf-less tune with the engine backed by a 4500rpm converter and built auto. Point being, a large converter typically 'drags' a fair bit out of the final power output figure.

Anyway, running a figure of around 240 rwkw before, with the new cam (remembering it is designed with Forced in mind) it delivered 280 to the treads. Remove the converter and theory suggests a figure more like 300+.

That car sounds familiar Greg. :) I can tell you that the cam above feels very strong on the street and has great manners too. I idle it at 850rpms and it drives like a baby. If I didn't already know that it was designed for a blown application you would never pick it as it makes about the same power as a similar sized n/a specific cam. I would suggest this cam to anyone who wants to eventually end up forced induction but wants to run cam only in the mean time whether that would be for a few months or a few years.

I'll be heading up to Heathcote for the LS1 nationals to give it a run and I'm aiming for mid 11's at around 118mph full weight on drag radials. I'll also be at Easternats all this weekend if anyone wants to have a listen to it etc.

S2VYSS
09-04-2009, 09:20 PM
Too dark for fishing tonight mark :lol:

Would be interesting to see your beast fire up again! :goodjob:

I'm trying to save and work as hard as I can, but with the current situation I'm in, things dont look great! The building services industry is not looking for grads at the moment

Brett SS
09-04-2009, 09:23 PM
Would be interesting to see 233/238 .596" .602" 114 in a NA motor if the smaller blower cam would pull around 300rwkw

We might need to talk soon Greg

Jase,

You're welcome to come for a spin in my car with the 224/232 stage 5-SC cam and see what you think as the cam you mentioned above probably wouldn't make anymore power in a blown application over the one I'm running but would give worse economy and drivability etc.

hothed
10-07-2009, 10:30 AM
best way to do it guys is not procrastinate about it, took my vz ss ute down there yesterday to fit a stage 5 cam, nice and lumpy i spoke to daniel from auto tech, very friendly understanded what i needed and i feel really confident he will do a really good job and produce the goods, highly recommend going down there and speaking to them, he was more than happy to show me around some differnt cars with differnt specs, might as well speak to someone who is in the business and knows what there talking about. ill let u guys know how it goes on tuesday

Tyre biter
10-07-2009, 04:19 PM
I wish I knew what all these numbers actually meant, what they will achieve and what one ought to be looking for when comparing one against another.

Good thing the boys at VCM are very understanding and patient with those technically challenged (like me), and they listen to and further enquire as to what one is after before giving advice on the same - as opposed to those who merely tell you what you want to hear, or whom make your mind up for you and bluster you with techno BS to achieve the same.

Myself, I have finally saved the money to do a few things including a tune and some VCM kit including their V6 cam (233 / 233 .596 / .596 114lsa and valve springs. I am really hoping to break into the +300rwkw club with my N/A L98 6M.

Just waiting on VCM's VE OTRCAI to discern if I go with that or the Ziggy OTRCAI I like so much. Elsewhere it is said the VCM unit is a few weeks away - I've waited this long and so a few more weeks before I order everything shouldn't kill me.

From all reports the VCM V7 and V8 versions are mad! I would love to hear them at idle but God knows how Id get them off the line without fluffing it :) Hence I think the V6 will have to do.

Cheers, TB

VCMSWT
10-07-2009, 05:00 PM
I wish I knew what all these numbers actually meant, what they will achieve and what one ought to be looking for when comparing one against another.

Good thing the boys at VCM are very understanding and patient with those technically challenged (like me), and they listen to and further enquire as to what one is after before giving advice on the same - as opposed to those who merely tell you what you want to hear, or whom make your mind up for you and bluster you with techno BS to achieve the same.

Myself, I have finally saved the money to do a few things including a tune and some VCM kit including their V6 cam (233 / 233 .596 / .596 114lsa and valve springs. I am really hoping to break into the +300rwkw club with my N/A L98 6M.

Just waiting on VCM's VE OTRCAI to discern if I go with that or the Ziggy OTRCAI I like so much. Elsewhere it is said the VCM unit is a few weeks away - I've waited this long and so a few more weeks before I order everything shouldn't kill me.

From all reports the VCM V7 and V8 versions are mad! I would love to hear them at idle but God knows how Id get them off the line without fluffing it :) Hence I think the V6 will have to do.

Cheers, TB

TB. A bit of self promotion never hurts I guess, and I have to say that the new OTR is frankly brilliant. Performance wise there is nothing to match it - although there is one out there that comes close. Price wise it will be very competitive and quite comprehensive. It will be available in either Maf or Maf-less, follow along similar lines to our existing alloy OTR, but with unique funky looks - and also containing the largest K&N filter of any OTR in the country.

As for camshafts, thanks for your comments, we do try and make sure each and every customer gets what they need as opposed to (largely) what they may think they need which realistally sometimes comes down to the heart, not the head when making choices.

The V7 is a nice camshaft, not quite mad I have to say, but it definately needs cam gears. As for the 8, 13 and 16, now we're talking mad.


best way to do it guys is not procrastinate about it, took my vz ss ute down there yesterday to fit a stage 5 cam, nice and lumpy i spoke to daniel from auto tech, very friendly understanded what i needed and i feel really confident he will do a really good job and produce the goods, highly recommend going down there and speaking to them, he was more than happy to show me around some differnt cars with differnt specs, might as well speak to someone who is in the business and knows what there talking about. ill let u guys know how it goes on tuesday

You will definately enjoy the 5!

Thanks for your business.

madvz
05-09-2009, 07:45 PM
TB.



You will definately enjoy the 5!

Thanks for your business.

You are dam right there.
Just got my VZ SS back today after having my new VCM-5 cam and otrcoi. Other mode were 1 3/4 pacemaker extractors, 3" hi flo cats onto already existing 3" system, brake upgrade and 6.0L VE clutch kit.

Went from 189.5 rwkw to an impressive 262.1 rwkw (best run).
As dave says it is a totally new car to drive. Cant stop smiling. I'm finding excuses just to get in and drive it.

YouTube - vz ss sedan cammed,tuned,otr,brake upgrade. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHN2ZazX8-g)

Above link last dyno run before I drove it away.

taztassio
05-09-2009, 07:55 PM
HP-F is putting it all together and having it tuned at Chip Control as he has done my brothers car on E85 and is familier with it. Ive purchased a flex fuel sensor which allows the LS1's to automatically switch over tunes depending on what fuels in the car. So mine will be tuned on Ultimate and E85 which is found at hoppers crossing United. Ill post up the dyno graph once its all done.


george with the whipple l67?