VE heater hose relocation

[AussieTone]

I fitted the Holden OEM twin 6 litre covers to my old VE SS sedan but had to trim down the front and rear of the drivers side cover to clear the heater hoses.

I want to fit a pair to my MY09 SS Ute and have been told if you relocate the heater hoses you don’t have to trim the engine covers.

Has anyone done this and if so could they please give me a blow by blow description on what is involved in moving the hoses

Cheers

[Ron SS]

I see no reply as yet. Could someone tell me the size of the heater hoses required for VE ....rubber hoses specify ID. It looks to me that there are two hose sizes at the motor connection 5/8 and 3/4 ID, but the larger one is sleeved down after the first join so that both hoses end up at 5/8 ID (7/8 OD) at the firewall end. Can someone add some info please for what looks to be a great mod for looks to fit L76 covers and for a cooler inlet manifold.

[Wonky]

Tone and Ron, I'm having Chev fit my extractors and new KPM system tomorrow so I'll see if Big Rob has time to relocate the heater hoses too as he has done on quite a few. Or just ring or go down and see them.

[AussieTone]

Tone and Ron, I'm having Chev fit my extractors and new KPM system tomorrow so I'll see if Big Rob has time to relocate the heater hoses too as he has done on quite a few. Or just ring or go down and see them.

Love to see some pics of the relocated hoses as well if possible

[Wonky]

Love to see some pics of the relocated hoses as well if possible

Yep, if BR does have time to do them I'll certainly get pics for you.

[VX-300]

Heaps of guys in the USA have done this on the Pontiac G8-GT.
(Rebadged LHD VE SS).

Original hoses.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03816.jpg

New Relocated Hose Pair (front of pic)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03818.jpg

Relocated.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/downsized_0816081813.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/downsized_0816081813a.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03815.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03814.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03813.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03812.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03811.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03810.jpg

Original Position

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/clipsP7150047.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/DSC00175_640.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/DSC00177_640.jpg

Relocated with 2pce 6.0 engine covers.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/g823.jpg

[Wonky]

From memory (it's a while since I saw one that had been done) that looks about what Big Rob does.

[SV346]

For a cooler inlet manifold remove the nvh cover off of it, you barely even know its there till you look closer, take it off! And no im not talking about the bloody engine cover!

[WH Captain]

Is it really worth the effort with moving the hoses? It dont look bad at all if u have a dremel and take ya time to trim them up nicely.. only my opinion tho

[VX-300]

For a cooler inlet manifold remove the nvh cover off of it, you barely even know its there till you look closer, take it off! And no im not talking about the bloody engine cover!

It's only the newer LS3 intakes (that also fit L76/L98) with the bolt down MAP sensor at the front that have the removable Beauty/Noise Cover. You have to unbolt and lift the fuel rail to get it out.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/LS320intake20cover20seperate-1.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/LS320intake20cover20underside-1.jpg


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/L76/0706081817a.jpg

[HSV Manta]

[QUOTE=VX-300;1477746]Heaps of guys in the USA have done this on the Pontiac G8-GT.
(Rebadged LHD VE SS).


New Relocated Hose Pair (front of pic)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/PerthPurplePenguin/car%20parts/DSC03818.jpg

Are the bottom hoses off a particular model or are they a custom set up?

Cheers

[VX-300]

They're aftermarket made up hoses.

[Wonky]

Unfortunately ran out of time to do heater hose reroute today so next week hopefully when I get OTR done.

[AussieTone]

Did the last of the VZ's with the 6 liter engine have the same hose setup as the VE.

Also, after having a closer look at the VE set up there appears to be quite a bit of slack and there is a 90 degree bend in both hoses near the firewall. Do you think it would work if you rotated the bend 180 degrees (so it changed direction to pointing towards the guard rather than the engine valley). As I mentioned there appears to be heaps of slack in the hoses so maybe this would work.

If the VZ hoses are different does anyone have a pic of them as from memory the VZ had the twin covers standard so probably had a different hse setup

[Red-SSV]

I fitted the Holden OEM twin 6 litre covers to my old VE SS sedan but had to trim down the front and rear of the drivers side cover to clear the heater hoses.

I want to fit a pair to my MY09 SS Ute and have been told if you relocate the heater hoses you don’t have to trim the engine covers.

Has anyone done this and if so could they please give me a blow by blow description on what is involved in moving the hoses

Cheers

tone, i had mine done down at "chevs" when they did my cam/head package.
give 'big rob" a ring mate. hes done quite a few now and hes the type of guy that wouldnt mind posting you a photo or to id say. :)

cheers
ray.

[amckiwi]

is there just a cosmetic benifit for this mod?

Stu

[AussieTone]

tone, i had mine done down at "chevs" when they did my cam/head package.
give 'big rob" a ring mate. hes done quite a few now and hes the type of guy that wouldnt mind posting you a photo or to id say. :)

cheers
ray.

Ray
Do you have a contact number mate and thanks for the advice
Tony


is there just a cosmetic benifit for this mod?

Stu

Stu
Mainly cosmetic but the twin covers don't hold all the heat in like the turtle shell. It's like gaining the benefit from going 'naked' but still looks nice and tidy
Tony

[Wonky]

Did the last of the VZ's with the 6 liter engine have the same hose setup as the VE.

Also, after having a closer look at the VE set up there appears to be quite a bit of slack and there is a 90 degree bend in both hoses near the firewall. Do you think it would work if you rotated the bend 180 degrees (so it changed direction to pointing towards the guard rather than the engine valley). As I mentioned there appears to be heaps of slack in the hoses so maybe this would work.

If the VZ hoses are different does anyone have a pic of them as from memory the VZ had the twin covers standard so probably had a different hse setup

Not sure about that Tone (Swingtan has a 6.0 VZ) but Chev was talking yesterday about somehow using VY hoses to hopefully achieve the same effect without the need for the extra hose clamps their current method requires (takes the edge off the neatness). Don't know any more details than that at the moment.

[AussieTone]

It sounds like trimming down the front and rear of the driver's side cover then putting a bit of pinch weld over the cut edge like I did on my old VE SS will be just as easy and still looks good.

Pinch weld was from Clarke rubber and they sell it in what ever length you want. Don't remember the price but I bet it was way cheaper than new hoses

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn130/sinbad215/VE%20SS%20Sedan/IMG_4022.jpg

[PSI 364]

Tony, I know it a bit late but heres a pic of a VZ 6ltr engine bay, you can see the heater hoses run up the drivers side rail.

Dont know how well they would match up to the heater on a VE though ....

Mick

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p68/SSL76/2008_0613Cars0005.jpg

[Wonky]

Tony, finally had my OTR fitted and tune today at Chev's and Big Rob also did his heater hose re-route for me. Not sure how well you can see from the following pics but here they are anyway. :)

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/dusotroncar2sm.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/dusotroncar3sm.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/heaterhosereroute2sm.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/heaterhosereroute3sm.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/heaterhosereroute4sm.jpg

[Marco]

That's a good looking CAI, what brand/model is it?

[DaveHAT]

That's a good looking CAI, what brand/model is it?

DUSspeed.

Damn you know how to put together a tidy machine Gary! :bravo:

[Wonky]

Yep, as Dave said, it's a DUSspeed made by forum member Dus. I had mine painted to match the body colour.

Seems to work very well too!! Had the ute tuned yesterday by Chev. My sedan was (AFAIK) the highest powered bolt-on A6 L98 at Chev's with 264rwkw (261 on his new dyno), so given the ute hasn't even done 2,000km yet (the sedan definitely got much stronger after 10,000+km) and is a 260kw AFM L76 I was going to be happy with anything over 250rwkw.

260.3rwkw with Dus OTR and mafless tune. :woohoo:

[HSVQUE]

thats a great figure wonky.. gotta be happy with that.

[boyley]

260.3rwkw with Dus OTR and mafless tune. :woohoo:

Wonky you know you want a cam now:) Why dont you sneek in and grab some of andy's goodies whilst hes not looking:outlaw:

[TOYLS1]

Bay looks the goods wonky, good power too!

[AussieTone]

Tony, finally had my OTR fitted and tune today at Chev's and Big Rob also did his heater hose re-route for me.

Thanks for that. It has helped me heaps. Nice numbers you got as well.
Cheers
Tony

[Ron SS]

After a bit of research, I have found that the heater hoses to use to relocate the VE hoses are actually made by Holden .... you simply use the long heater hose from the Commodore V8 models VC-VK as this gives you more options when routing the new hoses. The VC-VK models have two heater hoses ... use the long one and buy two of them. All up cost is $20. These hoses have the 90 degree bend to use at the water pump end. Although Holdens VB-VE all have two sizes of outlet at the pump end, Holden simply use the same size hose as there is plenty of stretch in the hose to fit over the larger nipple. Different suppliers may have a flared end but it really is not needed. I used some 25mm corrugated split tubing around the hoses to protect against the heat from the hoses and a couple of plastic ties.. another $6. All up $26 and you reuse the existing spring clips.

Note also that 6 cylinder blue/black motors VC-VK also have hoses that fit VE, but they are shorter than the V8 ones, hence go for the V8 ones to give better routing options.

It is best to get as much access to the front area as possible by unclipping two wire looms. The radiator is drained by undoing a screw under the radiator, kick the motor over for a few seconds to avoid a mess before the existing hoses are pulled off. A clean 10 litre bucket under the drain hole is easily big enough and reuse the coolant later. The end result is factory looking with no messy extra clips or joiners needed. It took 1 hour to do it ... next one would be half that!!

[AussieTone]

Sorry for what may sound like a dumb question but if I remove these hoses to have a 'fiddle' how much radiator fluid do I loose and do I need to plug up the connections on the water pump (to avoid the fluis draing out) whilst I am having a 'fiddle' :confused:

[Wonky]

Tony, as Ron says, just use a bucket under the drain tap and pour it all back in again when done.

[VXSS]

Hi Ron

Got any pics???


After a bit of research, I have found that the heater hoses to use to relocate the VE hoses are actually made by Holden .... you simply use the long heater hose from the Commodore V8 models VC-VK as this gives you more options when routing the new hoses. The VC-VK models have two heater hoses ... use the long one and buy two of them. All up cost is $20. These hoses have the 90 degree bend to use at the water pump end. Although Holdens VB-VE all have two sizes of outlet at the pump end, Holden simply use the same size hose as there is plenty of stretch in the hose to fit over the larger nipple. Different suppliers may have a flared end but it really is not needed. I used some 25mm corrugated split tubing around the hoses to protect against the heat from the hoses and a couple of plastic ties.. another $6. All up $26 and you reuse the existing spring clips.

Note also that 6 cylinder blue/black motors VC-VK also have hoses that fit VE, but they are shorter than the V8 ones, hence go for the V8 ones to give better routing options.

It is best to get as much access to the front area as possible by unclipping two wire looms. The radiator is drained by undoing a screw under the radiator, kick the motor over for a few seconds to avoid a mess before the existing hoses are pulled off. A clean 10 litre bucket under the drain hole is easily big enough and reuse the coolant later. The end result is factory looking with no messy extra clips or joiners needed. It took 1 hour to do it ... next one would be half that!!

[Ron SS]

Here are some photos, std setup
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk204/RonSS_photo/DSCF0169Small.jpg

std VE hoses with the hoses off a V8 ..VC-VK
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk204/RonSS_photo/DSCF0175Small.jpg

Finished with fluting for heat protection
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk204/RonSS_photo/DSCF0176Small.jpg

Std cover back on, L76 covers next ...hard to find though.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk204/RonSS_photo/DSCF0182Small.jpg

[tacka007]

do you want 2 get rid of the ve hoses

[VXSS]

Hi Ron thanks for the pics looks good.

[AussieTone]

Ron

Make sure you check which model VE you have before trying to fit the 6 liter L76 covers as I have found out they don't fit the later models. (E.G. I fitted them on my 06 VE SS but they didn't fit on my MY09 6/08 VE SS Ute).

From memory MY8.5 and after have a different set of fuel rails which are closer to the motor and the covers won't clip on. The later models also have a different intake cover

A mate at Holden has told me that you need to check with your dealer and give him your VIN. The option you are looking for is 'erl' or 'bvg' but I don't remember which one you need although your dealer should know

Last time I checked new stock of covers were due by the end of May but that was back in early March. There was something like 22 of the LH side available and no RH sides. If you do buy a set check them before you leave the dealership as I have twice had LH side covers in an unopened RH side box

Cheers
Tony

[Wonky]

Ron

Make sure you check which model VE you have before trying to fit the 6 liter L76 covers as I have found out they don't fit the later models. (E.G. I fitted them on my 06 VE SS but they didn't fit on my MY09 6/08 VE SS Ute).

From memory MY8.5 and after have a different set of fuel rails which are closer to the motor and the covers won't clip on. The later models also have a different intake cover

A mate at Holden has told me that you need to check with your dealer and give him your VIN. The option you are looking for is 'erl' or 'bvg' but I don't remember which one you need although your dealer should know

Last time I checked new stock of covers were due by the end of May but that was back in early March. There was something like 22 of the LH side available and no RH sides. If you do buy a set check them before you leave the dealership as I have twice had LH side covers in an unopened RH side box

Cheers
Tony

Tony,

I had a set of VZ L76 covers I bought 2 years ago for my Mar 07 build SSV sedan but never got around to putting on, so they were the ones I had painted and put on my MY9.5 SSV ute recently (as below). They still went on sort of OK but apparently the later models have an extra black cover over the intake (the black part in between the covers).

Big Rob at Chev's kindly removed that for me a week ago and now the covers fit much better. I haven't taken a picture since, so the picture below is with the extra black cover on still, but even then they did clip on OK and weren't going to fall right off. Note that even without the centre black cover the centre area still looks the same as under that there is still the black intake of the same shape (if that doesn't sound confusing and :weirdo:).

Gary

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/Enginecovers1sm.jpg

PS The L76 covers are almost impossible to get at the moment as apparently the supplier is having some sort of problems. Due to a :doh: on my behalf I have a spare LH (passenger) side one (part 92068147) perfect and professionally painted white (identical to the one on my car). If anyone wants it I can sell it to them for $100 which is less than list price plus the $50 ea I paid to have them sprayed. You can have the one that's on my car or the spare - doesn't matter to me.

[AussieTone]

Gary

Was there much involved in removing the second intake valley cover that Chev's did for you. Congratulations on the look on this car by the way. Then again, you do have a track record of getting a VE to look the goods. One of your other posts had (the new wheels :goodjob:). What type/make/model and size of rim are they. Also, when they painted your covers did they fill them to make them smooth or just paint the existing texture. I take it the black insert is the original black plastic or has that been painted as well.
Cheers mate
Tony

[Wonky]

Thanks Tony. :thumbsup: Unfortunately I was doing something else when Big Rob removed the extra intake valley cover but it didn't seem to take long and from memory he said about 15 min to do??? :confused: I'm sure he said the injector rails had to come off but apparently that's easy. My daughter went out and took another few pics for me earlier so I've included one below.

At first it doesn't look much different but then look at where the silver pipe across the intake now sits in the slot, plus how much better the oil filler cap sits now. If you look closely you can also see how much better the points of the cover sit in the grooves along the intake now that the extra cover has been removed.

To answer your questions in order: rims are DTM Shine, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear. When they painted the covers I assume they didn't fill but just sprayed straight over the textured part. However, unless you look really closely the textured section looks quite smooth. No painting on the black intake section in the middle - that's factory.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o274/gcovo/SSV%20Ute/Enginecoverswithintakecoverremoved.jpg

[jai]

Does anyone happen to know the OD size of the heater core ports on the firewall,and the OD size of the pipes on the engine?

I was thinking AN16 size hosing should be ok?

Cheers
JK

[AussieTone]

To answer your questions in order: rims are DTM Shine, 20x9 front, 20x10 rear.

If you don't mind sharing the information, what sort of price did the wheel package cost you and what tyres did you fit. If you don’t want to post this here I understand but would appreciate a PM on the price if you don’t mind. Also did you have to get the guards rolled to ftop any scrubbing / bottoming out iwht these large width rims

I have decided to try again with the suspension and will be getting my Lovells coils and Lovells Eliminator struts and shocks fitted. I assume this will firm the ride up again so given my dodgy back I was thinking about removing the Walkinshaw Performance 20" x 8" wheels and either fitting a set of 19" (more sidewall in the tyres so maybe it will cancel the extra firmness out) or even just going back to a set of 18" rims. Lovells HQ have advised me that the difference in fitting their product (which had 2 years worth of testing and fine tuning on the struts and shocks) is like going from an SS with FE2 to a E series HSV

Does anyone have any comments regarding the logic of this proposed compromise and trade off?

[Ron SS]

jai ... the hoses you need are 16mm and 19mm ID. I found that the 16mm hoses ID also fit both without any problems. Buy two of the long one from the Holden V8 models VC-VK. Reuse the VE clips, they are really good. 16 is 5/8" and 19 is 3/4", available Repco, Supercheap, Autobarn, GMH etc.

[jai]

jai ... the hoses you need are 16mm and 19mm ID. I found that the 16mm hoses ID also fit both without any problems. Buy two of the long one from the Holden V8 models VC-VK. Reuse the VE clips, they are really good. 16 is 5/8" and 19 is 3/4", available Repco, Supercheap, Autobarn, GMH etc.

Cheers for that. So the IN and OUT lines of the heater core are different sizes normally, or are you saying the heater core ends are different sizes to the water pump area?

I was probably going to try using some spare Black Braid AN16 hose I have laying around :)

JK

[VX-300]

jai ... Buy two of the long one from the Holden V8 models VC-VK.

Part Number 92026765.

[VXSS]

I decided in the end to remove them completely.

5/8 block off's on all positions.

Cheers

John

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

I decided in the end to remove them completely.

5/8 block offs on all positions.

Cheers

John

do you get any codes if you dont have the water going through heater just asking as they throw codes for just about every thing these days

[VXSS]

do you get any codes if you dont have the water going through heater just asking as they throw codes for just about every thing these days

no codes mate

John

[HEXEM]

I decided in the end to remove them completely.

5/8 block off's on all positions.

Cheers

John

John,

Does this mean you do not have heating for the car? Not that you need it right now with the temps in NSW... :)

Do you have some photos of your install you could share with us?..

Cheers
Phil

[VXSS]

Hi Phil

Yep no heater in the car.

Below is a pic with the hoses removed, if it gets cold I think about re routing the hoses in a different position like some have done on here already.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/vxss/IMG_0376.jpg

Cheers

John


John,

Does this mean you do not have heating for the car? Not that you need it right now with the temps in NSW... :)

Do you have some photos of your install you could share with us?..

Cheers
Phil

[Wonky]

W427 OTR John? :confused:

[VXSS]

W427 OTR John? :confused:

W427 OTR John? Yes it is Wonky

John

[Wonky]

:goodjob: Any idea how it works compared to others?

[HEXEM]

Did the last of the VZ's with the 6 liter engine have the same hose setup as the VE.

Tony,

I know this thread is a bit old and you've probably had the hoses changed now. but thought I'd share this info anyway. The VZ 6.0ltr heater hose setup does fit the VE L98.L76 and looks very factory (If your wanting that look). The cost of the VZ hoses is about $43. I am getting them fitted to my car in the next few weeks when she goes in for an engine coolant flush...

Cheers
Phil

[AussieTone]

Tony,

I know this thread is a bit old and you've probably had the hoses changed now. but thought I'd share this info anyway. The VZ 6.0ltr heater hose setup does fit the VE L98.L76 and looks very factory (If your wanting that look). The cost of the VZ hoses is about $43. I am getting them fitted to my car in the next few weeks when she goes in for an engine coolant flush...

Cheers
Phil

Phil
Any chance of posting a pic or sending a couple of pics to me at aledger@bigpond.net.au when you get them fitted. I have bought the hoses detailed in this thread that fit the early V8's but have not fitted them yet so can always take them back and get an exchange for the VZ hoses. I have my covers fitted and just pulled a bit of slack out of the OEM hoses so they are currently just resting on top of the cover.
Cheers

[VXSS]

I wonder if the heater hoses from a VXSS??? would work they were alongside the chassis rail.

Only thinking VX as I use to have one.

[HEXEM]

Phil
Any chance of posting a pic or sending a couple of pics to me at aledger@bigpond.net.au when you get them fitted.

Sure can Tony.. They might even get done today if I am lucky... Getting some proper hose clamps put on the current ones as there is a slight leak at the firewall but will let you know.

Cheers
Phil

[HEXEM]

I wonder if the heater hoses from a VXSS??? would work they were alongside the chassis rail.

Only thinking VX as I use to have one.

John,

Seeing you do not have any hoses atm you'd be able to get the VX ones and measure them up to see if they fit..

[VXSS]

John,

Seeing you do not have any hoses atm you'd be able to get the VX ones and measure them up to see if they fit..

Hi Phil

Apparently the VT - VZ are all the same with a heater tap, VE does not have the heater tap.

I'll buy the pre VE hoses as they all ran along side the chassis rail so I have been told by Holden

[HEXEM]

Hi Phil

Apparently the VT - VZ are all the same with a heater tap, VE does not have the heater tap.

I'll buy the pre VE hoses as they all ran along side the chassis rail so I have been told by Holden

Yeah you don't need the tap from the pre VE, just reuse the hose joiners from the original heater hoses. I'll pick up my heater hoses on Monday. They only had the hoses from the firewall to the tap. Needed from the tap to the pump also..

[HEXEM]

Well its taken a while but I finally got the heater hoses done. I had to wait while holden sorted out my lifter problem and inlet valves in the heads...

Finaly all done and looks neat.

[bah73]

Pics of heater hose relocation VE with VZ hoses.
http://i649.photobucket.com/albums/uu214/bah73/VE%20mods/9.jpg

[Raptor6L]

Well its taken a while but I finally got the heater hoses done. I had to wait while holden sorted out my lifter problem and inlet valves in the heads...

Finaly all done and looks neat.

:worthless:

[HEXEM]

Yep.. I had planned to post up some pics. Not that you can see very much. I guess that's the whole idea.

The hoses I used were for VZ SS L76. They did a good job hiding them. I know alot of people do the mod themselves, however the car was being worked on under warranty so I took the opportunity to have them do it.

I must admit it does look alot neater...

Here you go.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/VE-SSV/VE%20SS%20Heater%20Hose%20Relocation/HeaterHoseRelocation001.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/VE-SSV/VE%20SS%20Heater%20Hose%20Relocation/HeaterHoseRelocation002.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/VE-SSV/VE%20SS%20Heater%20Hose%20Relocation/HeaterHoseRelocation003.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk188/VE-SSV/VE%20SS%20Heater%20Hose%20Relocation/HeaterHoseRelocation004.jpg

Cheers
Phil

[Jman]

......or you could save yourself the hassle of relocating the hoses altogether and get the longer covers as below.

http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii105/julian1965/DSCF4843.jpg
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii105/julian1965/DSCF4840.jpg
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[bonners]

Sorry to drag this up again.

I have just had my billet fuel rails installed over the top of my FAST manifold.

It looks great with the blue and red speedflow fittings but it is ruined with the heater hoses.

Anybody in Brisbane done it, had it done or recommend who can do it for me.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

mate all you need is 4 rubber caps from super cheap and take the heater hose of and plug the ends takes 10 min

[Alex(AUS)]

mate all you need is 4 rubber caps from super cheap and take the heater hose of and plug the ends takes 10 min

Does that stuff anything up? What are they there for?

Alex

[Raptor6L]

Does that stuff anything up? What are they there for?

Alex

The hoses are there to run hot water from your motor thru your heater so you get hot air in your cabin. What Atomic Maloo R8 has done is removed the 2 hoses and blocked the 4 tubes (2 on the motor and the 2 leading to the heater) with the 4 caps. Remove the hoses and you effectively remove your heater. In Cairns that is not problem, in Melbourne though.......... I reckon i'd be wanting a heater thru winter down there.

Relocating the heater hoses is not that hard. Just grab the parts listed earlier in this thread and set aside half a day and have a tinker with your car.

[Alex(AUS)]

The hoses are there to run hot water from your motor thru your heater so you get hot air in your cabin. What Atomic Maloo R8 has done is removed the 2 hoses and blocked the 4 tubes (2 on the motor and the 2 leading to the heater) with the 4 caps. Remove the hoses and you effectively remove your heater. In Cairns that is not problem, in Melbourne though.......... I reckon i'd be wanting a heater thru winter down there.

Relocating the heater hoses is not that hard. Just grab the parts listed earlier in this thread and set aside half a day and have a tinker with your car.

Yeah I suspected as much which is why I found it strange that Atomic took them off but being in Cairns it makes sense. I do plenty of tinkering I just need to find the time.

Alex

[quityabitchn]

where can you get the Single side motor covers from??

[Wonky]

Many people (including myself) use VZ 6.0 litre split covers from Holden. Different covers are for sale on evilBay.

[whi739]

just did the ve heater hose relocation, and found that u can just use the existing ve hoses as they line up pretty good, just needed to cut abit of the "S" bend off for it to fit, i just cut abit and then trimmed while installing so i wouldnt cut to much, a few pics in my album: s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/whi739/ve%20heater%20hose%20relocation/

havnt neatened it up yet

[HEXEM]

Good job using the factory hoses. It neatens up the look of the engine when they are moved. Especially if you take the engine cover off...

:goodjob:

[IJ.]

Water bypass is in the heater tap, you can't just "cap" all 4 fittings, you need to loop the engine fittings for <Vz, I'm assuming the Ve's run the tap in the HVAC unit.

Using Vy hoses and tap here for the Vz/6.0l swap.

[badamf]

just did the ve heater hose relocation, and found that u can just use the existing ve hoses as they line up pretty good, just needed to cut abit of the "S" bend off for it to fit, i just cut abit and then trimmed while installing so i wouldnt cut to much, a few pics in my album: s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/whi739/ve%20heater%20hose%20relocation/

havnt neatened it up yet

I think this is the way to go with HHRelocation, true to factory look. :flip3: Pics good be better.

[Roonstain]

I did this with the VK hoses - dirt cheap and easy enough - the hardest bit it getting the clamps on and off the hoses at the firewall - my hands are too big.....:lol:

[SilverVH]

just did the ve heater hose relocation, and found that u can just use the existing ve hoses as they line up pretty good, just needed to cut abit of the "S" bend off for it to fit, i just cut abit and then trimmed while installing so i wouldnt cut to much, a few pics in my album: s971.photobucket.com/albums/ae195/whi739/ve%20heater%20hose%20relocation/

havnt neatened it up yet

I did a similar thing as you, in that I retained the existing VE hoses.

I didn't cut mine as I personally I hate butchering cars (even though I'm the biggest culprit of it!) :errr:

All I did was unclip them both from the firewall and turned them upside down so they mirrored the existing hose route. Then I just ran them around the ABS module and down inbetween the fuse box.

You don't really notice it particularly if its a black car. Plus you can put it back to standard without having to buy new hoses in the originality stakes :thumbsup:

[badamf]

Great work, do you have any pics.
Did you also unclip the engine side to get the hoses along the side wall before recliping.

[azzss]

I just used vk v8 hoses as well, cheap and easy to do plus they look neat. You can use vz ones too, but are dearer and you need to use a joiner (two price hose's).
Cheers.

[SilverVH]

Great work, do you have any pics.
Did you also unclip the engine side to get the hoses along the side wall before recliping.

Luckily I didn't have to touch them on the engine side, it all just fell into place and worked. All I did was unclip the ABS wiring and plug behind the fusebox, route the hoses underneath them and the ABS bracket, through the brake line and under the master cylinder and finished up over the booster across the firewall.

All up it took about 15 minutes and is worth doing just for the simplicity of it. Unsure if it would look as good on a different coloured car as mentioned previously, although you can't see much of it up against the firewall. Either way its better than how it is from factory!

Copy and paste these links to see before and after (can't link them due to post count lol.)

Before: i40.tinypic.com/293jaxc.jpg

After: i41.tinypic.com/16apqid.jpg

I know...was pretty pointless considering the rest of the bay is a jungle lol. It's slowly getting there!

[Wonky]

Before:
http://i40.tinypic.com/293jaxc.jpg

After:
http://i40.tinypic.com/16apqid.jpg

[SilverVH]

Cheers for that Wonky. :)

[badamf]

Nice one mate, thanks
Your engine bays a killer with the super.
Cars colour is evoke so hoses should disappear like yours.
Great work.

[SilverVH]

Nice one mate, thanks
Your engine bays a killer with the super.
Cars colour is evoke so hoses should disappear like yours.
Great work.

Let us know how you go with it all!

Easiest way to remove the hose clips from the firewall is with vicegrips. Also be sure to remove the clips from the hoses when re-routing them as is it a tight squeeze. When you re-attach them, the hoses will go on the opposite outlets they came off of. It won't affect heater operation or water circulation so don't worry.

It should blend in nicely with evoke, although you don't tend to notice the hoses as they're pretty much right out of the way unless you look for them.

Have fun! Cheers :)

[godsvt2]

good tread very helpful thanks

[badamf]

Let us know how you go with it all!

Easiest way to remove the hose clips from the firewall is with vicegrips. Also be sure to remove the clips from the hoses when re-routing them as is it a tight squeeze. When you re-attach them, the hoses will go on the opposite outlets they came off of. It won't affect heater operation or water circulation so don't worry.

It should blend in nicely with evoke, although you don't tend to notice the hoses as they're pretty much right out of the way unless you look for them.

Have fun! Cheers :)

Well finally got around to doing the HH relocation, but after trying the route under the master cylinder and over the booster could not get it to work properly. :cussing: (got one hose around but could not get the other to reach, also was not shaw if the wiper mech would rub on hoses).
So went with going up next to the the master cylinder and finished by going behind one of the ABS pipes to the firewall, had to cut some hose off. In the end still looks great and blends in well with the evoke colour. Very happy. :thumbsup:

[SilverVH]

Well finally got around to doing the HH relocation, but after trying the route under the master cylinder and over the booster could not get it to work properly. :cussing: (got one hose around but could not get the other to reach, also was not shaw if the wiper mech would rub on hoses).
So went with going up next to the the master cylinder and finished by going behind one of the ABS pipes to the firewall, had to cut some hose off. In the end still looks great and blends in well with the evoke colour. Very happy. :thumbsup:

Glad you managed to get it sorted in the end. My directions mustn't have been the best, sorry.

Now that you've begun with modifying the bay, I wonder how long before the modification bug really hits. :thumbsup:

[badamf]

Next is to get the Beauty cover off so I can put on the VZ 6.0L split engine covers on.
Your directions were fine just could not get one hose to reach properly.

[my99wrx7]

What are the black plastic 'things' in the middle of the factory hoses? Do you need to put them back in after you have changed the hoses? Or don't they serve any purpose?

Cheers

[Raptor6L]

What are the black plastic 'things' in the middle of the factory hoses? Do you need to put them back in after you have changed the hoses? Or don't they serve any purpose?

Cheers

They're just adapters for changing the ID size of the hose AFIK. Over the shoulder they go. :)

Cheers
Chris

[my99wrx7]

Cool, thanks for that.

[badamf]

Got the beauty cover off today, to fit the L76 VZ 6.0L split covers.
Not a hard job to do.
Start with cold car, left over night is best.
First release pressure from fuel rails, unplug the electrics (clips that attach to fuel rail and the to coil packs), then remove fuel rail bolts plus another 5 that hold a couple of brackets.
Slowly pull up rails evenly until injectors pop out (should be able to lift up rails a few inches).
Now pull the metal clips off that hold the top of the injectors to the rails, remove the injectors (fuel rail can now be lifted right back).
Now you can pull the beauty cover off. :yahoo:
It is a good time now to clean injectors and remove any dirt where the injectors sit in.
Finally apply a good amount of rubber grease to the o-rings on injectors and place back in the manifold, line up rails then seat them in, replace metal clips.
Replace all bolts and clip in electrics.
Turn over engine and check for and leaks, put covers on.
Job done. :bravo:

[E3CLUBBIE]

Firstly, apologies for digging up an old thread. First post so I'm excused :)

When relocating the heater hoses, when you lose coolant, are there any issues when adding the coolant back with air in the hoses?

[Wonky]

I had mine done as part of something else being done so can't say for sure but I suspect the thing to do is leave the radiator cap off when first filling up and pour the coolant in through there?

[BLACK 346]

Not the same thing, but I just changed out my top hose and lost a litre. Filled it through radiator cap as Ed advised. Ran it with cap off to operating temp, zero issues.

[E3CLUBBIE]

I had mine done as part of something else being done so can't say for sure but I suspect the thing to do is leave the radiator cap off when first filling up and pour the coolant in through there?


Not the same thing, but I just changed out my top hose and lost a litre. Filled it through radiator cap as Ed advised. Ran it with cap off to operating temp, zero issues.

okay cheers guys.

[BLACK 346]

Sorry, as Gary advised not Ed, got my threads mixed up :)