Pedders Suspension join LS1

[Pedders]

Hi from Pedders Suspension.

For some time we have, as a company, been monitoring the growth of forums and considered the most appropriate way to participate within them.

We have decided that a one stop shop would be the best way to start our foray into forums with the LS1 - one co-ordinated forum rather than just a casual member who jumps into the odd conversation.

To ensure that we did the right thing by all we have taken up a sponsorship option on the forum as we appreciated the costs involved to keep these forums free to their members. Sure we will get a marketing advantage from it but guarantee members will benefit from our 60 years of wisdom as well.

We see this as great opportunity for us to get to know what “you” think about Pedders. Be that “good or bad” its good for us because it makes sure that we are doing the right thing by the people that support us. The forum will be monitored by Pedders Head Office Staff.

A couple of guidelines we have in place for our staff are:
• Selling off the forum - All sales enquiries will be directed to the nearest store in our network, unless we have made a pre-arrangement with the group for a LS1 Special.
• We will not bad mouth opposition product - This does not achieve anything.
• We will not become involved in ongoing heated exchanges - We encourage anyone to contact us directly with an issue so that small misunderstandings etc do not become blown out of all proportion.

We will:
• Pass on any product or service issues onto the relevant staff or state manager to pursue on your behalf. (The only thing we ask is that you have made an attempt to sort out the issue within the system before posting it.)
• Post items on new product and hope to have staff members write some interesting product reviews for you as well so that you can benefit from our knowledge and experience.

We have:
• Built a dedicated section on our web site specifically for this Forum.
http://www.pedders.com.au/index.php?page=products&showSec=94 (http://www.pedders.com.au/index.php?page=products&showSec=94)
• This will contain the following items of interest specific to members of the LS1 Forum
o Competitions
o An image gallery
o Product Info and News
o And more as time moves on.

This site is not visible to the general public (only accessible through fourm) and has also been provided to our store network. The only aspect of the forum data available to the general public will be the image gallery which we are unable to “hide” at this time.

At Pedders our philosophy is “NO BULL” – we don’t do things by halves....and we have some unique and exciting opportunities for LS1 Forum members via this dedicated website page.
Please click the below links to check out the following components of Pedders commitment to LS1 Forum members;

• eXtreme V8 Supercar Experience Competition – THIS IS HUGE! http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/173 (http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/173)• “Show us Your Cars” Competition
http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/174 (http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/174)
• LS1 Member National Discount Offer
http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/175 (http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/175)
• Exclusive access to view Pedders new SportsRyder TV Commercial
http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/172 (http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/172)

Since the first Holden rolled off the production line Pedders Suspension has helped owners with steering and suspension solutions designed to improve the performance and driving experience. Holden owners have contributed greatly to the success of Pedders Suspension and we look forward to being an active member of the LS1 forum and providing members with the same level of commitment that we put into our products....NO BULL!

[fastestls7]

? how can ther two seperate pedders besponsors? Pedders and pedders south melb? I assume that pedders has franchise stores as well as the Family owned stores, but surely they should work under the one pedders sponsorship?

[Pedders]

You are absolutely right. The team at Sth Melbourne have been doing a great job and we have been having discussions with them about the benefits of forum membership. From those discussions it was decided to develop a more uniformed Pedders presence within the forum. The dual sponsor issue will resolve itsself over the next week or so.

[Darkrayne]

Welcome fellas! Using some SSL pedders myself! awesome stuff :)

[Rt!]

Welcome!!! I can only see mutual benefits for this relationship :)

[steve_t]

Bring a shop to New Zealand!!

[vt2vx]

i used you guys a fair bit, does the discount apply to all stores? however i get NRMA discount anyway.

what can you tell me about the commodore rear CV's you have. Are they new, are they better than oem?


when i've been driving for a long time over an hour the rack or steering gets a creak in it, not sure which it is. short trips when everything is cool no noise. has to be rack internal, or steering bearing or something on the end of the steering shaft. what is common? it has the revised VY rack with the bigger tie rod ends currently. i think it probably the steering shaft when it gets hot....

[Sonny@Autowerks]

Welcome aboard guys !!!


We have been dealing with pedders Granville & Blacktown for over 8 years now,they have provided us with great products and back up support.Look forward to seeing new products and specials here as theres alot members here that use pedders products !


:thumbsup:

Regards sonny

[shaunv8]

5% off for LS1 members unfortunately still puts Pedders waaaaay back in terms of costs ...

[CarCareProducts]

Welcome aboard, I was actually in Pedders Mascot when this was posted yesterday getting Jamie and Stuart to Safety inspect and fully wheel align the ute. A very dramatic improvement in handling now, thanks.

[Pedders]

Thanks for all the responses so far it has been great.
We already have our first entrant into the Show Us Your Cars comp check it out.

We are already New Zealand. Check out this store link http://www.pedders.com.au/storeFinder/44/store203 (http://www.pedders.com.au/storeFinder/44/store203). Give them a call.


i used you guys a fair bit, does the discount apply to all stores? however i get NRMA discount anyway.

what can you tell me about the commodore rear CV's you have. Are they new, are they better than oem?


when i've been driving for a long time over an hour the rack or steering gets a creak in it, not sure which it is. short trips when everything is cool no noise. has to be rack internal, or steering bearing or something on the end of the steering shaft. what is common? it has the revised VY rack with the bigger tie rod ends currently. i think it probably the steering shaft when it gets hot....


The discount does apply to all Pedders Stores.

Our CV's are made to equal or exceed the OEM specifications but not heavy duty.

I spoke to our remanufacturing plant about your rack issue and they had not heard of it as a common issue. It might pay to let one the the guys at a store have a look at it for you.

[Curtis-R]

Great to see the group come on board, and great job on the LS1 section on your website~!

The new extreme VE coilovers sure look nice! :goodjob:

[vt2vx]

Thanks for all the responses so far it has been great.
We already have our first entrant into the Show Us Your Cars comp check it out.

We are already New Zealand. Check out this store link http://www.pedders.com.au/storeFinder/44/store203 (http://www.pedders.com.au/storeFinder/44/store203). Give them a call.




The discount does apply to all Pedders Stores.

Our CV's are made to equal or exceed the OEM specifications but not heavy duty.

I spoke to our remanufacturing plant about your rack issue and they had not heard of it as a common issue. It might pay to let one the the guys at a store have a look at it for you.

thanks
Re creak will try to arrange that it means going for a long drive then need someone to look at it straight away before it cools down again. if not commen in the rack its probably the steer shaft as it comes though the firewall, a few ppl have said they get creaks from this area of the steering. its just hard to tell the sound seems to come from everywhere.

[Sonny@Autowerks]

Our CV's are made to equal or exceed the OEM specifications but not heavy duty.

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I think they may be better as con has been supplying us these c.v's and we havent seen one fail yet in cars that have been breaking the OEM ones !!!!

[QUOTE=Curtis VE-SS;1469154]Great to see the group come on board, and great job on the LS1 section on your website~!

The new extreme VE coilovers sure look nice! :goodjob:


Curtis ,

They just dont look nice !! they are awsome !!,cons done some ve's for us and they are the ducks guts !:)

[holden6.0]

5% off for LS1 members unfortunately still puts Pedders waaaaay back in terms of costs ...

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[cashie]

Guys, maybe some package specials would be good.
The US Pedders boys have been doing this for ages for the Pontiac GTO (Monaro).
Main Page (http://www.peddersusa.com/products/15/48) Some great info and details on this page/s...
Example of Street Kit
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd309/cashie5/StreetPackage.jpg
In the past I have printed information off the US website and your stores have been surprised by it's clarity etc.

[boyley]

Welcome aboard. Can you possibly backdate the competition start to the 23 Feb 08?

[Pedders]

If you go the the catalogue section of our main web site at http://www.pedders.com.au/catalogue you find a range of new kits in our e-store area which should suit you down to the ground. These have just been released and are very similar to those seen on the US site.

[cashie]

If you go the the catalogue section of our main web site at http://www.pedders.com.au/catalogue you find a range of new kits in our e-store area which should suit you down to the ground. These have just been released and are very similar to those seen on the US site.

Currently only one coil over kit in there for Monaro...

[TUFFIE]

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[Highway]

Do you have adjustable Rear Stabiliser Bar to fit VE 6ltre Wagon ?
Is there any great advantage in going adjustable over the normal aftermarket type on a street car !!

Can you also give me prices on what is available ?

Couldn't see anything in your catalogue for the wagon.

Thanks for your help.
Mike

[Pedders]

Do you have adjustable Rear Stabiliser Bar to fit VE 6ltre Wagon ?
Is there any great advantage in going adjustable over the normal aftermarket type on a street car !!

Can you also give me prices on what is available ?

Couldn't see anything in your catalogue for the wagon.

Thanks for your help.
Mike


Mike
Pedders at this time do not do have adjustable rear bars for the wagon.
For a Street car I believe that the best way to make a noticable difference is to fit the EP1169 rear cradle mount bushes. Retailing for $182.00 unfitted, these inserts are fitted into the existing rubber bushes on the rear cradle and help to reduce axle tramp and rear axle walking. Once installed and the rear end is behaving itself you will be in a much better position to decide if you need to enhance the cars suspension any further. If you do then the staff at your local store will be able to assist you through this process.

Just a reminder that our March "Show Us your Cars" competition finishes tomorrow night.

You still have time to win a Pedders racing jacket.
simply follow this Link: Show Us Your Cars (http://www.pedders.com.au/products/94/174)
and you could win one of these jackets.

http://www.pedders.com.au/PS_images/assets/LS1/jacket_f_sml.jpg
http://www.pedders.com.au/PS_images/assets/LS1/jacket_b_sml.jpg

[Pedders]

Pedders are proud to announce that we were the recipients of 4 awards at the 2009 AAAA trade show.
http://www.pedders.com.au/PS_images/news/news11238712722.jpg Click here for the full story (http://www.pedders.com.au/news/1/article61)

[lidar]

I have a VY SS and have the oportunity to buy goos second hand springs for her. The part numbers are 2153 (front) and 2641 (rear).
Are these the right ones for my car?
I want to drop no more than 25-30mm front and rear.
I tried to search on your website but it does not allow you to search with part numbers.

Steve

[Peddstaff1]

Hi Steve

These spring part numbers are designed for the VR/VS model. Whilst they will physically fit they will drop the car well below the 30-35mm you want (will sit the car on the bump stops)

Hope this helps

[lidar]

Great thanks for that. What about rear springs from a VT 6 cyl sedan? Will they fit okay on my VY SS?
Cheers
Steve



Hi Steve

These spring part numbers are designed for the VR/VS model. Whilst they will physically fit they will drop the car well below the 30-35mm you want (will sit the car on the bump stops)

Hope this helps

[CalaisBoy]

Hi,
I have a 6.0 VE Calais. It was lowered with Pedders springs, has 20 inch wheels (and some other gear) by the dealer before I bought it. It seems to have been lowered about 30mm. The car is absolutely great but can be a bit thumpy or almost bottom out a bit too easily.

My question is this:
Is it ideal to lower the VE with springs only, or would it be an improvement to do dampers as well, and/or anything else?

Thanks!

[Peddstaff1]

Great thanks for that. What about rear springs from a VT 6 cyl sedan? Will they fit okay on my VY SS?
Cheers
Steve
Steve

Yep the VT and VY rear springs are in most cases the same. There are a few height options from most manufacturers so just make sure the ones you get are what you want

Mark


Hi,
I have a 6.0 VE Calais. It was lowered with Pedders springs, has 20 inch wheels (and some other gear) by the dealer before I bought it. It seems to have been lowered about 30mm. The car is absolutely great but can be a bit thumpy or almost bottom out a bit too easily.

My question is this:
Is it ideal to lower the VE with springs only, or would it be an improvement to do dampers as well, and/or anything else?

Thanks!

Hi
You will definately get an improvement with upgrading the dampers to help control the reduction in suspension travel. The other area we are finding makes an enormous difference to the VE is upgrading the rear diff mounts. This stops the rear of the car walking around and is especially noticeable on ones that have been lowered. My recommendation would be to contact your local Pedders store and get them to take a look at the car so they can offer the best advice for the type of driving you do. Don't forget to mention you are a forum member!
Hope this helps
Mark

[Pedders]

Just a quick reminder that our April "Show Us Your Cars"
competition is still running. If you want a chance at winning this months Pedders racing jacket get you entries in.

Check out the G8 GT pull 1"G" on a skid pan in the USA
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=117557

[CalaisBoy]

Hi Mark,
thanks for your previous reply. Some good suggestions.

Is it correct that Pedders don't make the "Premium" grey springs for the VE? I thought that this was what mine are but if its true, I am having trouble working out what mine are. The spring wire measures 15mm with a vernier. A guy at one of your smaller suppliers had a look but was unsure.

He indicated that maybe only your larger dealers have them??

Thanks
CalaisBoy

[cal 57l]

Quick 1 mate,what it cost 4 springs only supply and fit vz ss??

had 2 prices 1 from Taren Point store the other from Bankstown store.Price varies by $200.00 ????????


Thanks

[Peddstaff1]

Hi Mark,
thanks for your previous reply. Some good suggestions.

Is it correct that Pedders don't make the "Premium" grey springs for the VE? I thought that this was what mine are but if its true, I am having trouble working out what mine are. The spring wire measures 15mm with a vernier. A guy at one of your smaller suppliers had a look but was unsure.

He indicated that maybe only your larger dealers have them??

Thanks
CalaisBoy

Hi - That is correct. We did a special run on our Premium grey springs for a select group of stores and that sounds like what you have. How do you find them?
Mark

[CalaisBoy]

Mark
the springs themselves are fine for a daily drive. Mine were installed by a dealer (probably contracted to one of your outlets) to lower the car along with some other good mods.

However it was a springs only job and with the standard shock there is a small amount of "thump" and more bounce after going over speed humps than I would prefer. I am told that this can't really be blamed on the springs.

A good set of Pedders dampers would improve the situation a lot I think (as you suggested in a previous reply to me).

Cheers
CalaisBoy

[lidar]

I have a VY SS sedan with lowered rear end. I heard you have spacers for the rear shocks. I tow a trailer now and then and need to raise it by about an inch.

Do you have spacers and what price and sizes are there?

Another option (more expensive though) is the air bags that fit in the middle of the springs. What price for these?

What is your opinion on pump up air shocks? (Price too)

Cheers

[Pedders]

Hi lidar,
Pedders have spacers available for your car in 6 & 10mm sizing which will give approximately a 10-15 mm height change at the wheel. This will not achieve the result you are after.

Air bags are a better option, though, as you pointed out are more expensive as they allow you more flexibility. Run minimal pressure most of the time to maintain the bag in position and then boost it up when towing which increases the coils load bearing ability and the vehicle load remains supported by the correct component. Average to supply and fit would be $550 but these prices will vary from state to state.

The beauty of air bag over air shocks is that you are able to increase your load capacity and still have the benefits provided by your shocks. Air shocks on the other hand are a compromise between support and control as you increase the air in an airshock the shock travel is restricted through the bag inflation and load that should be supported by the springs is now transferred to the shock mounts which were not designed to be load bearing.

When the airbags are filled with a large amount of air there can be a significant ride quality decrease as well. Most Air shocks are valved similarly to the O.E. which means that you are getting no real control improvement for your dollars spent only a load carrying increase.

The average fit price on the Pedders air shocks would be $500-520 so the difference between the two is minimal.
Note.. Pedders air shocks have been built with our Comfort Gas valving which at least provides improved performance over the OE and most aftermarket units.

Hope this helps.

Scott Prior

[lidar]

Thanks for the informative reply Scott.

Will go for the air bags but will have to wait for the next stimulius package!!

Many thanks

Lidar
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[Pedders]

Thanks for the informative reply Scott.

Will go for the air bags but will have to wait for the next stimulius package!!

Many thanks

Lidar
:bow:

The next... I'm still waiting for the first!

Don't forget to use your LS1 discount voucher when you buy your airbags. http://www.pedders.com.au/PS_images/...%20Voucher.pdf