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Fnomna
27-03-2009, 10:48 AM
Logic is behind it, but still..Crazy!

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/03/25/california-to-reduce-carbon-emissions-by-banning-black-cars


What could California possibly have against these colors, you ask? Apparently, the California Air Resources Board figures that the climate control systems of dark colored cars need to work harder than their lighter siblings – especially after sitting in the sun for a few hours. Anyone living in a hot, sunny climate will tell you that this assumption is accurate, of course.

I couldn't imagine an SS, Calais or Caprice not being available in BLACK!!

more opinions here http://idle.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/26/1639250

CarlFST60L
27-03-2009, 10:51 AM
I remeber someone did a side by side test with two identical cars, one black one white, there was only 2 degrees Celsius of difference. Enough to feel, but not enough to care about.

lowr8
27-03-2009, 10:56 AM
That is a joke!

Knawful
27-03-2009, 11:07 AM
Car racism.

Not just a pigment of the imagination any more.

Rub
27-03-2009, 11:09 AM
Damn Racists!

Big_Valven
27-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Well we've known CARB are absolute nutters for quite a while, now they're turning into the official "fun police."
They can GTFO.

CLUBRED
27-03-2009, 12:30 PM
Define black though, surely even matt black v's a heavy metalic would also have different properties. Is Evoke black? Dark blue? bunch of crazies.

However, I gained pretty good reflexes when I had a black car, its like they become invisible to other drivers....

Marco
27-03-2009, 01:28 PM
I couldn't imagine an SS, Calais or Caprice not being available in BLACK!!

...and yet, if you cast your mind back to the VN-VR days, you couldn't get them in black!*



* I'm not counting Anthracite Grey :)

Dan_
27-03-2009, 01:33 PM
If the black car has tints ans uses a sun shade on the front screen it will be no hotter than the white car without tints and no sunshade.

Its the windows that let the heat in not the paint

iloveholden
27-03-2009, 02:31 PM
If the black car has tints ans uses a sun shade on the front screen it will be no hotter than the white car without tints and no sunshade.

Its the windows that let the heat in not the paint

Yeah true...with my 20% tint and sunshade, if i put it up, cuts out a lot of the heat.

This is pretty ridiculous statement for the state of Arnie.

steve_t
27-03-2009, 02:53 PM
WTF?
Next they'll be issuing tickets for having low tyre pressure, roof racks, or accelerating too fast as they all increases fuel consumption. It's political correctness gone wrong... AGAIN!!

iamhappy46
27-03-2009, 06:21 PM
...and yet, if you cast your mind back to the VN-VR days, you couldn't get them in black!*



* I'm not counting Anthracite Grey :)

Jet Black SV5000's ?? They gave two away at Bathurst

tyrhantc
28-03-2009, 10:39 AM
Well the car salesman did tell me when I bought my Heron that white is the new black....:)

mouthy
28-03-2009, 11:00 AM
Jet Black SV5000's ?? They gave two away at Bathurst

VN Group A's

1000V8 & 2000V8 on the number plates.

planetdavo
28-03-2009, 11:44 AM
Why are solar pool heating grids all coloured black...?

kayman
28-03-2009, 12:11 PM
Well the car salesman did tell me when I bought my Heron that white is the new black....:)

So if white is the new black, does that mean they are going to ban white cars too?

:hide:

RIDE:42
28-03-2009, 12:47 PM
people are more of a problem then the cars

Chappy
28-03-2009, 01:15 PM
My god what next, it could only happen in America mob of irrational dodos.

If this happens what's the chances of banning Fords in Qld.

iamhappy46
28-03-2009, 04:28 PM
Why are solar pool heating grids all coloured black...?

Because they are designed to absorb light, white reflects light so it will not absorb the entire spectrum. Heat absortion is another thing ;)

You would really need to measure the difference in panel temps between a white car and a black car, both with 35% window tint to get a consistent result.

Jag530G
28-03-2009, 05:15 PM
...and yet, if you cast your mind back to the VN-VR days, you couldn't get them in black!*



* I'm not counting Anthracite Grey :)

or the VN/VP.

I did see a black VL Calais, but really, prior to the VX, very few mass produced Holdens came in black (by this I mean non HDT/HSV)

Here's a question for the forum, looking through old HQ-HZ catalogues a colour Tuxedo Black was available, I can't ever remember seeing one. Has anyone?

Cheers, Matthew

tim_k
28-03-2009, 05:15 PM
Because they are designed to absorb light, white reflects light so it will not absorb the entire spectrum. Heat absortion is another thing ;)

You would really need to measure the difference in panel temps between a white car and a black car, both with 35% window tint to get a consistent result.

:goodjob: iamhappy46

Just further to this explaination, the light gets trapped under glass where it heats due to minimal air flow. This is why solar heaters still work in winter. Ever seen a cat lie under a sunlit window in winter? Same thing:)

ringram
28-03-2009, 07:54 PM
Ban all colours except white!
White is right!

:)

BTW There is suggestions to paint everything white to reflect heat back into space!

fx160
29-03-2009, 07:45 AM
or the VN/VP.


Here's a question for the forum, looking through old HQ-HZ catalogues a colour Tuxedo Black was available, I can't ever remember seeing one. Has anyone?

Cheers, Matthew
there was a black HQ statsman that i used to see late seventies around alex hills
it also had 350 stickers on the boot just like the manaro ones

kev
i think john zapier used to have a black hx sedan as a tow car at the drags as well

redvxr8clubby
29-03-2009, 09:19 AM
or the VN/VP.

I did see a black VL Calais, but really, prior to the VX, very few mass produced Holdens came in black (by this I mean non HDT/HSV)

Here's a question for the forum, looking through old HQ-HZ catalogues a colour Tuxedo Black was available, I can't ever remember seeing one. Has anyone?

Cheers, Matthew

Black was available in VS, and VT's - quite a few black VT ss's or s pac around. Although they had a bit of blue or green mixed in as a metallic colour, not a non metallic pure black.

planetdavo
29-03-2009, 10:22 AM
Ignoring any "green" thoughts, dirty black cars (and they are always dirty, unless just washed) are an accident waiting to happen, as in anything but bright sunlight they are approaching invisibility.

STATIE
29-03-2009, 01:46 PM
in anything but bright sunlight they are approaching invisibility.

Cool - coppers won't even see me coming.
Black also doesn't reflect laser/radar as well as other colors - reason enough for me.

I love my "stealth cars.:D

ASSASIN
29-03-2009, 01:54 PM
Ban all colours except white!
White is right!

:)

BTW There is suggestions to paint everything white to reflect heat back into space!

Once you go black you will never go back

planetdavo
29-03-2009, 06:18 PM
Once you go black you will never go back
Unless you get sick of washing it 5 times a week...:eyes:

tyrhantc
29-03-2009, 07:37 PM
Once you go black you will never go back
Not true after 3 black holdens I am now a member of the white brigade...


Cool - coppers won't even see me coming.
Black also doesn't reflect laser/radar as well as other colors - reason enough for me.

I love my "stealth cars.:D

That never worked for me...:confused:

Jected
29-03-2009, 11:15 PM
Only in the USA........What will they come up with next.

WH Captain
29-03-2009, 11:52 PM
Unless you get sick of washing it 5 times a week...:eyes:

LOL so god damn true! Blacks hot, but FFS its a pain! Wish my ute was white..

But banning black cars? Pretty dumb imo :confused: should be more worried bout having no cars come out of the US at all if the global money poo dont fix itself :rofl:

VZ_V8
30-03-2009, 12:19 AM
If I had a choice I would never have a black car ever again. Looks farkin good when its clean but is the worst colour to keep that way. Every bit of dust and grit sticks out like dog balls and when your bordering on OCD like me :lol: it becomes frustrating. The most impractical useless colour for a car. Give me my Heron white ute again anyday!

And yes my car is Phantom Mica... :bawl:

tim_k
30-03-2009, 05:26 AM
And in more "It could only happen in California........" news comes the proposal to ban big energy sucking televisions

State considers ban on big screen TVs (http://taxdollars.freedomblogging.com/2009/03/23/state-considers-ban-on-big-screen-tvs/12993/)

(Thanks to Tim B)

SimoVXSS
30-03-2009, 08:46 AM
What a joke. Typical yanks just making a scene about nothing.

Black is a pain in the ass to keep clean very true, but after that wash its magic :yup:

Only way Id support the ban of black cars is if they give me the money to buy a brand new white one

ASSASIN
30-03-2009, 09:05 AM
Unless you get sick of washing it 5 times a week...:eyes:

Easy fixed. Just pay someone else to wash it

WH Captain
30-03-2009, 01:15 PM
Easy fixed. Just pay someone else to wash it

HAHA! Got Cash? Mate i seen ya car ay WA perf few weeks ago.. who looks after the paint? Mitch said Auto FX? im keen to get a Correction done coz yours looked like a mirror! :yup:

ASSASIN
30-03-2009, 01:27 PM
Yep Des keeps the old girl shinning

You wouldnt belive the condition the paint was in after sitting around for 15 months and the free swirls that came from the panel shop LOL

But Des brought it back like new. Only person i would recomend in Perth for paint rectification