Mercedes 6.2L engine a marvel

[Vulture]

The new iteration of the MB 6.2L engine for the SLS looks brilliant. From the latest Wheels, the thing has 420Kw, 650Nm and does this naturally aspirated all the while meeting emissions and noise limitations. Now that is a bit of engineering we can all appreciate!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3396270091_9f093b9419.jpg

It also makes 545Nm at 2500rpm! Without turbos!

[SS Enforcer]

I bet if they piss the twin Maff's off it will make 450 kw !!! JK :yup:

It's a nice bit of gear MB makes pretty good motors

cheers

[Veeate]

Yeah that is a pretty amazing reult for a N/A 6.2l given the HSV 6.2L puts out approx 320kw/550nm.

Anyone know what the weight of the Merc engine is compared to the HSV engine ?

What about the cost (crate engine) of the Merc vs HSV ?

[mustanger]

Ahhhh Yes :drool:, you have to love those AMG V8 engines :bravo::diddy:

[CarlFST60L]

I take it thats in the latest C63?

[Evman]

Awesome :drool:

[ssberlina]

I take it thats in the latest C63?

Unfortunately not :(

Speaking of C63's merc just told me mine is ready to pick up on Wed :)

When that turns up I wont be seen on here much ;) more likely the petrol station and tyre shop will get to know me better though :yup:

[mustanger]

Unfortunately not :(

Speaking of C63's merc just told me mine is ready to pick up on Wed :)

When that turns up I wont be seen on here much ;) more likely the petrol station and tyre shop will get to know me better though :yup:

Congratulations :bravo: They are awsome :yup:

There is a viscious rumour that mine will be here in three weeks. :woohoo:

Here is a clip of a standard exhaust with similar engine YouTube - C63 AMG sound (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbaKW_zZVs4&NR=1)

[Rub]

A detailed view of the SLS can be found here (http://www.star-lounge.ca/index.php?topic=1378.0)

[lowhsv]

There is a viscious rumour that mine will be here in three weeks. :woohoo:



thought you were updating to a 6.2, just a different one to wat i thought ha ha. nice choice, will you be bringing it on cruises?

[mustanger]

thought you were updating to a 6.2, just a different one to wat i thought ha ha. nice choice, will you be bringing it on cruises?

Well, put it this way........ I WILL be driving it as much as I can.

I already have enough dust collectors. :yup:

[Martin_D]

Great choice of car/engine. The rpm to which these engines rev, smoothly, and make power is something to be marvelled at..... :bow:

[jai]

Anyone hear the AMG Wagon Medical Car at F1 over the weekend? Sounded absolutely terrible! Sounded like an old holden 253!

JK

[Vulture]

Anyone know what the weight of the Merc engine is compared to the HSV engine ?

I think it was a tad over 200Kg.


I take it thats in the latest C63?

No, the SLS engine has quite a few changes to make it their top-spec version of this donk.

[Pickles]

Well, put it this way........ I WILL be driving it as much as I can.

I already have enough dust collectors. :yup:

I'll be looking for a ride...shame you didn't have it for George's wedding..would have been the best wedding car ride ever. I'm sure it will be a SENSATIONAL car.
Regards,Pickles.

[Vulture]

Speaking of C63's merc just told me mine is ready to pick up on Wed :)


Congrats and make sure you post up some pics as we'll all be jealous.

[darb]

mate of mine (and boss) drives an 08 C63 ... pretty insane engine in that thing. Sounds like a terrorist.

No comparison to the old pushrod 20year old tech that holden peddle ...

[CarlFST60L]

Unfortunately not :(

Speaking of C63's merc just told me mine is ready to pick up on Wed :)

When that turns up I wont be seen on here much ;) more likely the petrol station and tyre shop will get to know me better though :yup:


Great choice of car. I am forever trying to work out how I can justify the expense on one

[Vulture]

Great choice of car. I am forever trying to work out how I can justify the expense on one

You and me both.

[misterS]

Anyone hear the AMG Wagon Medical Car at F1 over the weekend? Sounded absolutely terrible! Sounded like an old holden 253!

JK

How dare you sir! I thought the sound of a blue-printed old 253 with headers and zorst was pretty good. Mind you, the old "traumatic" gearbox makes my current 4sp seem a modern miracle...

[TLX]

Agree with all the comments on the 6.2L engine in the Benz:bravo:
Keen to look at the new engine in the TT M3 in next 12 plus months also........apparently it pulls harder than a 12 year old boy:diddy:

[ssberlina]

Congrats and make sure you post up some pics as we'll all be jealous.

Will Do. That is if i ever get out of the drivers seat ;)


Congratulations :bravo: They are awsome :yup:

There is a viscious rumour that mine will be here in three weeks. :woohoo:


Good stuff. Well mine is a month early so all is good here. MB admitted that they are havinga little trouble with the car tracker. According to it my car is still on the boat but in reality it is at the dealer and being delivered to me on wed.

[VW Golf R32]

apparently it pulls harder than a 12 year old boy:diddy:

:rofl:

450kw with no forced induction and complies with Euro 5 emissions. Awesome. As it is said, "Deutschland uber alles!". :hitler:

[Curtis-R]

Sweet sounding thing they are :drool: i watched a heap of those you tube clips..

The sound of the F1 pace car is bang on too..

Mustanger.. your going to have to upgrade your sunnies as well.. :) :cool:

[Excellent]

Great choice of car. I am forever trying to work out how I can justify the expense on one

I'm keen to know how are some of you people able to afford such expensive machines. :)

I can't believe the number of people with expensive cars on this forum. :drool:

That MB engine output does impress. Not that I'll ever sample one. :bawl:

[VT_Lance]

would be nice to see what one of these would pull with a single or twin turbo set up lol

[Vulture]

I'm keen to know how are some of you people able to afford such expensive machines. :)

Not everyone who buys expensive cars can afford them, just look at all the prestige cars being returned to dealers with their owners having lost a packet in the financial crisis - all leased vehicles (nothing wrong with leasing in theory).

Many people spend too much on cars compared to their means but can still 'afford' them. I could lease a 911 turbo but not the best use of my money! But otherwise I suspect a combination of hard work and being in the right job/industry at the right time. I think good old fashioned luck is often overlooked in some successful people. I wanted to write this to avoid the usual "the harder I work, the luckier I get" comments etc. which are true...to a point. Lots of hard workers out there who get nowhere. Got to be smart, see opportunities and have a little luck. I'm 'lucky' as I managed to get into a decent profession with probably the best job security you can get but I won't earn the really massive dollars but I'm happy with that. Did take a bit of work to get there though...

[GODSMACK]

I'm keen to know how are some of you people able to afford such expensive machines. :)

I can't believe the number of people with expensive cars on this forum. :drool:

That MB engine output does impress. Not that I'll ever sample one. :bawl:

They probably live in a caravan park. :jester:


Not everyone who buys expensive cars can afford them, just look at all the prestige cars being returned to dealers with their owners having lost a packet in the financial crisis - all leased vehicles (nothing wrong with leasing in theory).

Many people spend too much on cars compared to their means but can still 'afford' them. I could lease a 911 turbo but not the best use of my money! But otherwise I suspect a combination of hard work and being in the right job/industry at the right time. I think good old fashioned luck is often overlooked in some successful people. I wanted to write this to avoid the usual "the harder I work, the luckier I get" comments etc. which are true...to a point. Lots of hard workers out there who get nowhere. Got to be smart, see opportunities and have a little luck. I'm lucky as I managed to get into a decent profession with probably the best job security you can get but I won't earn the really massive dollars but I'm happy with that.
Not to mention those who are lucky enough to have mum and dad buy then whatever car they like, and then there are those who inherit money..

[SchrgdVSV6]

Congrats on your purchases guys. Im looking at a company car and I see leases for C63s starting around the $2200 mark. Not too bad I guess...
EDIT - Thats for a 60months lease, so perhaps not such a good deal?

[NickS]

Agree with all the comments on the 6.2L engine in the Benz:bravo:
Keen to look at the new engine in the TT M3 in next 12 plus months also........apparently it pulls harder than a 12 year old boy:diddy:

Do you have any more info on this Tully ?

I heard the rumour that the TTV8 will go into the M3 but I can't find anything even remotely concrete on it, there seems to be a fair bit of discussion that the M3 will go back to a TT inline 6 ??? Is all of this stuff just made up by internet nerds ?

:confused:

Congrats Stanger and SSBerlina ... I'm certain you'll love the C63.

:goodjob:

[BlackCalaisVVE]

Anyone hear the AMG Wagon Medical Car at F1 over the weekend? Sounded absolutely terrible! Sounded like an old holden 253!

JK

Yep didnt sound to good/healthy

[18htan]

Sweet sounding thing they are :drool: i watched a heap of those you tube clips..

The sound of the F1 pace car is bang on too..

I could watch that pace car, all day long! :bow:

[ssberlina]

Congrats Stanger and SSBerlina ... I'm certain you'll love the C63.

:goodjob:


Thanks Nicks. I had to drop off my plates at the dealer today and there she was sitting on display in the main showroom ready for tomorrows delivery. I can hardly wait :banana:

As for affording them, well mine is a Company car ;) This is the same Company that I started from scratch 14 years ago though. Only now am I getting some sort of reward for some very long hours over many many years with little remuneration. Time to treat myself I thought, so I did :) You only live once. :yup:

[F6Mauz]

Do you have any more info on this Tully ?

I heard the rumour that the TTV8 will go into the M3 but I can't find anything even remotely concrete on it, there seems to be a fair bit of discussion that the M3 will go back to a TT inline 6 ??? Is all of this stuff just made up by internet nerds ?

:confused:

Congrats Stanger and SSBerlina ... I'm certain you'll love the C63.

:goodjob:

I think they are looking to have the TT engine in the next generation M3 thats at least a few years away yet.

[TLX]

Do you have any more info on this Tully ?

I heard the rumour that the TTV8 will go into the M3 but I can't find anything even remotely concrete on it, there seems to be a fair bit of discussion that the M3 will go back to a TT inline 6 ??? Is all of this stuff just made up by internet nerds ?

:confused:

Congrats Stanger and SSBerlina ... I'm certain you'll love the C63.

:goodjob:


Pretty sure I read in past issues of Motor or Wheels magazine Nick. The plan was for TTV8 in the M3:bow:

Tully

[mustanger]

Congrats Stanger and SSBerlina ... I'm certain you'll love the C63.

:goodjob:

Yeah, Thanks Nick :cheers:

In my circumstances, it came down to three cars, The AMG, M3 and the W427. On this occasion, the Benz got the vote as it ticked all boxes....awsome power, prestige, build quality, standard features, resale value and last and but not least, that glorious exhaust note coming out the back of those quad pipes ........Cheers John

[planetdavo]

Reckon the "two hole mod" will gain much? :rofl:

[CSP]

that video inside makes it sound shit. also sounds brand new and hasn't carboned up...

try this. :drool:

YouTube - Mercedes C63 AMG Estate revving @ Sluis! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQL2WZnDil4)

Love the AMG C63 Estate!!! Definitely a possibility next time round for me! :)

[Uncle Tone]

Yeah, Thanks Nick :cheers:

In my circumstances, it came down to three cars, The AMG, M3 and the W427. On this occasion, the Benz got the vote as it ticked all boxes....awsome power, prestige, build quality, standard features, resale value and last and but not least, that glorious exhaust note coming out the back of those quad pipes ........Cheers John

Muz, I can't believe you chose the C 63 over the W427.....what were you thinking!!!! :slap: :nono:

[CSP]

Muz, I can't believe you chose the C 63 over the W427.....what were you thinking!!!! :slap: :nono:

Quality... :stick:

Really, the C63 shouldn't cost much more than $100k but stupid taxes make it stupidly overpriced.

It's still better than the W427 ;)

[NickS]

Pretty sure I read in past issues of Motor or Wheels magazine Nick. The plan was for TTV8 in the M3:bow:

Tully

Well that might make my decision easier ... thanks mate.

:goodjob:


Yeah, Thanks Nick :cheers:

In my circumstances, it came down to three cars, The AMG, M3 and the W427. On this occasion, the Benz got the vote as it ticked all boxes....awsome power, prestige, build quality, standard features, resale value and last and but not least, that glorious exhaust note coming out the back of those quad pipes ........Cheers John

Makes sense to me John, I'd love to have a W427 but only if I could have it sitting in the garage doing bugger all kms for the next 20 years. As I'm already doing that with the Coupe 4 it just doesn't make sense.

For a daily driver it's down to the M3 or the C63 for me, my hearts with the M3, always has been ... but my god that C63 is tempting. I'll wait and see what BMW does with the TTV8, but my next car won't be a V8 Holden, that's for sure. We'll always have an HSV for the family truckster, but these things are just on another level.

:bow: :drool:

[Penko]

Thanks Nicks. I had to drop off my plates at the dealer today and there she was sitting on display in the main showroom ready for tomorrows delivery. I can hardly wait :banana:

As for affording them, well mine is a Company car ;) This is the same Company that I started from scratch 14 years ago though. Only now am I getting some sort of reward for some very long hours over many many years with little remuneration. Time to treat myself I thought, so I did :) You only live once. :yup:

Awsome mate.

Was at the top of my list when i was upgrading, just couldn't stretch that far. In a complete different league to fpv/hsv.

Cheers, and enjoy

[vr5speedv6]

It's a shame the Caddilac cts-v isn't out here, more power, faster AND better fuel economy than a C63. That's the marvel of the LS motors:bow:

YouTube - BMW M5 | Cadillac CTS-V | Mercedes C63 AMG [Inside Line] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMnRMTfnuYA)

[zorro]

I heard the rumour that the TTV8 will go into the M3 but I can't find anything even remotely concrete on it, there seems to be a fair bit of discussion that the M3 will go back to a TT inline 6 ??? Is all of this stuff just made up by internet nerds ?


Still all a bit of hear say at this point. The new gen M3 with the V8 is a great car and has stepped ahead in a lot of ways but has also been bashed by purists as ruining the car with the V8. A few of the guys in the Beemer club up here dont have much positive to say BUT really their only gripe is engine choice.

IMO I'd prefer to see another 6 in it, the noise of them is awesome. But the M5 went from a 6cyl to a V8 and now a V10 so I suppose progression of the M3 was from the S14 (best sounding 4cyl ever) to a 6cyl and now to a V8.

Time will tell

[seldo]

Pretty sure I read in past issues of Motor or Wheels magazine Nick. The plan was for TTV8 in the M3
Well that might make my decision easier ... thanks mate.

For a daily driver it's down to the M3 or the C63 for me, my hearts with the M3, always has been ... but my god that C63 is tempting. I'll wait and see what BMW does with the TTV8...
Latest Wheels mag has a report on the upcoming X5M and X6M soft-roaders and in that article the gist of what they said was that BMW had "hinted that this TT 4.4V8 will make it's way into the next M5 but the M3 is likely to revert to a 6 " (suggestion being a Turbo 6)
C63 is an awsome gadget! Congrats Col and John! I drove my bro-in-law's C class in Melb over the weekend and it's a nice little car except his is the poverty pack and wouldn't pull a greasy stick...

[ssberlina]

Congrats Col and John! I drove my bro-in-law's C class in Melb over the weekend and it's a nice little car except his is the poverty pack and wouldn't pull a greasy stick...

Seldo you have got to see this thing it is awsome. I picked mine up this morning and I have already done over 200 km showing it off. Havent been to PT yet either. ;)

The voice control is unreal. So much better than the crap we are used to. Looks like I will be spending some time reading the manuals though :confused:

[markone2]

Seldo you have got to see this thing it is awsome. I picked mine up this morning and I have already done over 200 km showing it off. Havent been to PT yet either. ;)

The voice control is unreal. So much better than the crap we are used to. Looks like I will be spending some time reading the manuals though :confused:

What a car ! , its the *complete* package imho :goodjob:

[FAT06L]

always loved the AMG Benz's ever since being a benz salesman.

my mates father just traded in his C63 AMG and took delivery of a CLK63 Black! my god its scary. racing buckets. harneses... the whole lot.

[Martin_D]

For those that own them, consider changing out the 0w-40 Mobil 1 that comes as 6.2L AMG factory fill, it simply doesnt have enough film strength for these engines. Evidence the clatterly valve train operation, odd big puff of smoke on start up (they all do it intermittently) and oil useage over the first 5000km. We advise 10w-60 as a great Aussie weather alternative :cool:

[Vulture]

It's a shame the Caddilac cts-v isn't out here, more power, faster AND better fuel economy than a C63. That's the marvel of the LS motors:bow:

Check this out:) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMnRMTfnuYA)

Great car but remember it is the only one of that trio that has to resort to forced induction to get there...nothing wrong with that, of course, but shows how the euro guys have the edge in tech bt it costs...

[seldo]

Seldo you have got to see this thing it is awsome. I picked mine up this morning and I have already done over 200 km showing it off. Havent been to PT yet either. ;)

The voice control is unreal. So much better than the crap we are used to. Looks like I will be spending some time reading the manuals though :confused: I'd love to have a look at it one day Col - I bet you can't get the grin off your face

[vr5speedv6]

Great car but remember it is the only one of that trio that has to resort to forced induction to get there...nothing wrong with that, of course, but shows how the euro guys have the edge in tech bt it costs...


What good is the tech though if it doesn't acheive better performance and economy? If you wanted to go NA I'm sure the LS7 would still whip them in performance and economy!!

[macca33]

What can you say about these jiggers....other than WOW. The MB/AMG have really picked up the ball and taken a long run in recent times - they look great - I would even use the word tough - and perform even better.

I'd love one.............one day maybe....

For now, I'll have to drool over Muzza's next time we cross paths.

cheers

[ssberlina]

I'd love to have a look at it one day Col - I bet you can't get the grin off your face

Name a time. I am only just down the road. Its a bit sad today with the rain :( .

[CSP]

Not as fast as the M3 but looks better, is more powerful, looks like more fun to drive, and costs a shit load less!

YouTube - BMW M3 vs Mercedes C63 AMG vs Audi RS4 in Spain - Top Gear - BBC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaZExdTHHjY)

Definitely want an Estate version!

[Martin_D]

Straightline C63 eats M3 :)

[NickS]

Not as fast as the M3 but looks better ...

I actually think that's it's biggest downfall ... it looks too much like a pov-pack C-Class, IMO the M3 shits all over it in terms of looks.

Everything else is damn near perfect, I just wish it looked a little more aggressive ... it doesn't look bad by a long shot, but IMO it could have looked better.

[CSP]

Interesting Nick.

I reckon the M3 looks more like a standard 3-Series than the C63 looks like a standard C-class.

I actually think the C63 does a good job of being an agressive looking tough sounding performance car without being "obnoxious" to look at.

But how boring would it be if we all thought the same thing?

I think both the Bimmer and the Merc nicer than the Audi though! :)

[iloveholden]

I actually think that's it's biggest downfall ... it looks too much like a pov-pack C-Class, IMO the M3 shits all over it in terms of looks.

Everything else is damn near perfect, I just wish it looked a little more aggressive ... it doesn't look bad by a long shot, but IMO it could have looked better.

I agree with you there but only in terms of the M3 coupe....the sedan doesnt do it for me, the rear end of the 3 series sedans looks a bit boring to me.

I saw a black M3 coupe the other day cruize past me on the freeway.....easist way to say this...i needed new jocks after i saw it :rofl:

Either way though, M3 or C63, i'd take either one :goodjob: Germans

[DuffMan]

Great car but remember it is the only one of that trio that has to resort to forced induction to get there...nothing wrong with that, of course, but shows how the euro guys have the edge in tech bt it costs...

Not to mention it looks like a turd on wheels, and is no doubt a step behind the Merc in terms of quality and refinement.


I actually think that's it's biggest downfall ... it looks too much like a pov-pack C-Class...

Have to disagree there... In pictures maybe but in person I think they look phenomenal. Very tough. I regularly see two silver ones in Terrey Hills and :drool: every time.

To the two who bought on, congrats. They're an awesome machine.

[boyley]

If only we lived in the states we might all of had a chance to own one

BMW M3 $65k^
C63 AMG $64k^

Whats the latest with RS4 has anyone heard, I'm still an M5 convert love those cars.

[Uncle Tone]

Straightline C63 eats M3 :)

Tuna, what's available for the C63? Exhausts, tunes, etc?

[NickS]

I think both the Bimmer and the Merc nicer than the Audi though! :)

I'm with you on that one ... :goodjob:


I agree with you there but only in terms of the M3 coupe....the sedan doesnt do it for me, the rear end of the 3 series sedans looks a bit boring to me.

Agreed ... my order or preference is M3 Coupe then C63 then something else ... just not a fan of the 4 door M3.

:confused:


Have to disagree there... In pictures maybe but in person I think they look phenomenal. Very tough.

Without a doubt ... I never said they didn't look good, I just think the M3 looks better.

:D

Just a matter of preference I think, not much wrong with either of them really.

[planetdavo]

For those that own them, consider changing out the 0w-40 Mobil 1 that comes as 6.2L AMG factory fill, it simply doesnt have enough film strength for these engines. Evidence the clatterly valve train operation, odd big puff of smoke on start up (they all do it intermittently) and oil useage over the first 5000km. We advise 10w-60 as a great Aussie weather alternative :cool:

Imagine if something like that noisy top end and odd puff of smoke happened to a Holden owner, who was also a member of an "enthusiust" internet forum...:hide:

[TLX]

In order Nick I'd now go :

GT2
GTR
TT M3
Marks GTO
C63

[Martin_D]

Tuna, what's available for the C63? Exhausts, tunes, etc?

Tone,
There are plenty of parts available for the C63, specifically Stateside, where 'tune only' there are plenty of cars in the 11 second zone, which is quite an achievement :)

While the factory exhaust doesnt look much (particularly the headers) it is a quality 'Sebring' aftermarket system from the factory that flows pretty well, and like most modern exhaust systems, there is very little gain other than exhaust note to be had from fitting a larger bore fancy looking piece.

Understanding the management system, and tuning it properly is the key to getting the best from a C63, since AMG deliberately 'held back' the C to keep its power figures off the larger E and S series 6.2 outputs. Its possible to quickly and easily take the stock power to 380kw crank, tune only :)

As an example we tuned a Victorian C63 a fortnight ago. Stock power (dynoned in Melb on a DD) was 271rwkw, tuned it pulled 312rwkw. Thats a big gain in anyones language, and the best part is its really noticeable, seat of the pants :cool:

[vr5speedv6]

Not to mention it looks like a turd on wheels, and is no doubt a step behind the Merc in terms of quality and refinement.


I actually prefer the look of the caddy, and in terms of quality check out the jdpower surveys ;) And I'd take better performance and economy over a miniscule difference in refinement anyday!! :goodjob: GM!!

[nang3]

They probably live in a caravan park. :jester:


Not to mention those who are lucky enough to have mum and dad buy then whatever car they like, and then there are those who inherit money..

ROFL i doubt anyones oldies here buy them a C AMG unless their name is Packer or Murdoch hahaha... actually it probably happens more than i think, considering i can think of at least 3 or 4 mates whose oldies have given them $200k+ towards houses etc with no repayment agreement!


Congrats on your purchases guys. Im looking at a company car and I see leases for C63s starting around the $2200 mark. Not too bad I guess...
EDIT - Thats for a 60months lease, so perhaps not such a good deal?

$2200 a month is pretty steep IMO, thats about $400 more than my minimum mortgage payment and $300 less than what i do actually pay on the house... but then again im on average wages so it would be all right for a lot of people here


Yeah, Thanks Nick :cheers:

In my circumstances, it came down to three cars, The AMG, M3 and the W427. On this occasion, the Benz got the vote as it ticked all boxes....awsome power, prestige, build quality, standard features, resale value and last and but not least, that glorious exhaust note coming out the back of those quad pipes ........Cheers John

what let down the M3 as a candidate? ive always loved the M3's but the C AMG is also friggen horn !!

[ssberlina]

what let down the M3 as a candidate? ive always loved the M3's but the C AMG is also friggen horn !!

I will probably get shot down here but when I drove the M3 I was very disappointed. The biggest let down was how the engine delivered the power.

This might seem strange to those who have not driven one. Yes the figures are all there; powerful high reving V8 with fantastic track times etc etc.

But what you dont see is that they are designed more for the track than the street. The engine doesnt deliver the power until you are doing over 4000rpm, and then it takes off. Perfect for the track when your engine is always spinning but on the road its a different story.

I could see myself at a set of lights wanting to change lanes and being blown off for the first 100 m by a tuned ls1 with diff gears. (Not recommending anyone drag on the street ;))

To put it into commodore language its like a stock LS1 even down to the tame exhaust note.

The C63 is a different animal. Given the huge amounts of torque the thing pulls like a train from stand still. I drives like a cammed LS1 with diff gears and a full exhaust :).

Yes the M3 light handle better but given that its lighter with wider rubber, how much of the better handling is in the wider rubber !!!!!

[mustanger]

what let down the M3 as a candidate? ive always loved the M3's but the C AMG is also friggen horn !!

I think Col pretty much summed it up in the above post .

I actually like the looks of the M3 Coupe but I decided I wanted a 4 door car and I think the AMG 4 door looks better than the 4 door M3.

If I was buying a 2 door, I would consider the M3 Coupe or the Nissan GTR. The GTR will obviously out perform the M3 Coupe ,but the BM wins in other areas.

Out of the 4 doors, the AMG did everything with so little effort. It has over 200 NM of more torque than the M3. You really have to rev the M3 to make decent power , where in the AMG, the power is always there. Dont forget the AMG is also detuned ,so with a tune (about380/390fwkw)it will be chalk and cheese .

The M3 might be a better package for the track because it is lighter and more nimble, but on the street it falls behind. It is slower down the QTR, slower to 100ks and has a lot less power and torque.


So in summary, if you are after a high performance 4 door car with all the fruit, the AMG C63 ticked all the boxes.......Cheers John

[NickS]

Awesome posts guys ... the more I read about these C63's the more I like them.

:bow:

[iloveholden]

I think Mustanger sums it up.....if you want a 4 door performance saloon the C63 would be seriously hard to beat :)

[CarlFST60L]

Awesome posts guys ... the more I read about these C63's the more I like them.

:bow:

Best daily driver for all occasions in the price range imo. Easily top of my list.

[Uncle Tone]

So in summary, if you are after a high performance 4 door car with all the fruit, the AMG C63 ticked all the boxes.......Cheers John

Can't believe you chose a little merc over the mighty W427! :slap:

[Curtis-R]

Can't believe you chose a little merc over the mighty W427! :slap:

on the turps last night again UT? :rofl:

I drove the new M3 with high expectations.. sorry but a real let down as far as V8 expectations.. very nice car to drive and the Germans are exceptional at gadgets to play wth if your bored on a road trip :)

hopefully we may see the C63 on the rollers very soon hey stanger :)

[mustanger]

Can't believe you chose a little merc over the mighty W427! :slap:

Keep :fishing: Tone........No Bites, Hey :bawl:.

The W427 is a great car and good luck to those who have bought one. They are the pinnacle of Australian Motoring :goodjob: and who knows, I might get one of them as well................one day.:D

[SV346]

saying this as ive never driven one, but on the basis, id never ever pay 150-160grand for a commodore with some fruit, we could all go out and do it aftermarket with a better result for cheaper, not that itd have warranty or anything but thats not the point... they didnt try hard enough.

[evilr8]

my cousin was one of the first to have one in oz, and it cost him 150 grand on the road, mind you thats cheaper than an audi rs4 a bmw m3 and walky 427! and believe me when i tell you guys that its the best thing on the road...
to give you an idea my clubby has the average perfomance gear like comp cam and springs, 3.9 diff ratio, sureflo 3.5 full ehaust system and on, on, on........and the amg still has about 5 car lenghths on me!

ive driven it heaps and believe me guys its not just that crazy motor, the gearbox is simply amazing! its a 7 speed box with a twin clutch.
Basically when your coming to a full stop or just slowing down it actually gears down automatically gear by gear, and you hear it just like a manual!!

you might get a chance to see it on the road its plates are 6T3AMG.

[Martin_D]

You will find its a '7G-Tronic' auto in the C63, not the new MB MCT dual clutch (in SL Class etc). Still a bloody fine transmission and much smoother than any jerky old DCT :cool:

As an aside for those that want to know more about their Benz we (Willall) have the latest generation 2010 Factory level Diagnostic system for AMG/Mercedes, and also on-site PCM mapping, including live logging and calibration. In other words we can stamp the books and tune the engine properly :cool:

[ssberlina]

Here are some pics of the latest purchase

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1414.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1417.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1422.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1423.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1424.jpg

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1425.jpg

[Martin_D]

Lovely, now make sure you keep the exhaust tips clean, as if you dont the additives in our local fuel will start eating into the bottom sections of them....and being an AMG/Sebring part they are expensive! Next step tune.......... :lol:

[TLX]

Very nice ssberlina:goodjob:

[Vulture]

:drool: love it! I want, I want!

On other topic, they should shove the engine from this into the M3. Maybe they will? 550hp.

LINK (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/25835/2010-bmw-x6-m-revealed-in-leaked-photos/#more-25835)



You will find its a '7G-Tronic' auto in the C63, not the new MB MCT dual clutch (in SL Class etc). Still a bloody fine transmission and much smoother than any jerky old DCT :cool:


Yes, it still has a torque converter doesn't it?

[Martin_D]

Yes, has a converter.....and in QLD you would be able to organise a 6K stally for it to make it a nice daily :bow:
Having said that and in all seriousness, there are upgraded hi-stalls for the C63 around :cool:
With a tune they normally run 11.8 - 11.9, with tyres and a stall you would expect that a 10 might be on the cards....maybe :lol:

[iloveholden]

Very nice mate....looks great :goodjob:

[NickS]

:drool: love it! I want, I want!

I'll 2nd that ... outstanding.

:bow: :drool: :bow:

Congrats SSB ... can we get some pics of side / wheels / brakes ? I want to drool some more.

[mustanger]

Here was SSberlina (Col) trying to get his AMG home in disguise.
YouTube - C63 AMG 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn97PRyoNmk&feature=related)

[ssberlina]

I'll 2nd that ... outstanding.

:bow: :drool: :bow:

Congrats SSB ... can we get some pics of side / wheels / brakes ? I want to drool some more.

Here are a few more pics. I will get some more of the brakes for you next time.

The boot with the rear seats being able to be folded flat

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1434.jpg

Copying mp3's on to the six gig hard drive (sorry about the blurry photo)
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1440.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1438.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1415.jpg
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh169/ssberlina/IMG_1419.jpg


Here was SSberlina (Col) trying to get his AMG home in disguise.


:goodjob:
Almost, I was a probably going a little quicker :eyes:

[ls2 crew]

wait till you go for a ride in a S65AMG......:bow: the ttw12 is a sweet sounding machine from the outside... inside you cant hear it at all, you just feel the air bags in the seats pumping up to support your back ect to compete against the g forces...

[Curtis-R]

Just head straight to 4min and 54 seconds! :drool:

YouTube - Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACgJvtqMY6c)

[vyc4b]

You lucky Buggers......
I look forward to seeing yours Muzzy.
Great vid Curtis.
Cheers.

[F6Mauz]

6:10 into this Vid is not bad... awesome actually.

YouTube - Carlsson CK63 S (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOoy_KfUPw&feature=channel_page)

[seldo]

6:10 into this Vid is not bad... awesome actually.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOoy_KfUPw&feature=channel_pageGive me my time back - you con me into watching 6.44 of bullshit to see a few seconds of a dickhead burnout... The car deserves better than that...

[F6Mauz]

Give me my time back - you con me into watching 6.44 of bullshit to see a few seconds of a dickhead burnout... The car deserves better than that...

Should have let it load completely while doing something else and then look at it. No need to waste precious time :dancenana:

[CarlFST60L]

Yeah, that youtube video was rubbish.

[S2VYSS]

You better drive yours like that guy in the video muzzy or else!

[Holden Man]

Just another hoon car !



Love the AMG's :bow:

The C63 looks pretty aggressive in the metal (not so in pics)

See quite a few of these around my work as there is a Merc dealer close by. The Merc mechanics seem to need always need to check the acceleration of these cars !

And they sound TOUGH.

Congratulations to all members here who are buying them.

[CALDIR]

Hi

These C63AMG's are absolutely awesome and I could only find one very bad issue with it!

I don't fit in them!:bow:

regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[nang3]

^^^ the only issue i have with them is that i cant bloody afford one!! taking a few inches off my height is easy in comparison haha

[sjhugh]

You fellows that have a C63 must in heaven when you kick them into life.

A month ago I seriously started toying with the idea of buying an M3. To put the car into perspective I also arranged a test drive of a C63. After a 3 week wait for one to be available, I had the test drive 2 days ago. Yesterday I walked back into the MB dealer and signed on the dotted line for one in Palladium Silver with an August delivery date. The M3 is definitely a great car but I couldn’t go past the valve for money the Mercedes offers, loaded with all the luxury you’ll ever need and the sound of that 6.2 litre is the full horn. It’s a shame no manual is available, still August can’t come quick enough.


http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/merc-c63-amg-01.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/Mercedes-Benz-C63_AMG_2008_1600x120.jpg

[fatbob]

ok, I looked at the thread title, and went yeah yeah a merc - they can go, but they just look so soccer mum to me ( with a few exceptions )
after a 100 posts - I had look in to see what all the fuss about - went to end of thread, and saw the pics ......

yeah, I want one - thats prolly the toughest merc I ever seen - asides from the one they were going to rally with the cosworth engine in it ( but cancelled when audi came out with quattro ) - can't remember its designation - but this merc - I seriously thinking in about 4 -5 years, when warranty out, and depreciation has kicked in - I might be able to get one for a reasonable price .....

[vyc4b]

I've been lucky enough to have a drive of one of these C63's and WOW, best car I have sat in let alone driven......Cheers Muz.

Here's a couple of pics of the SL65 'Black Series', Twin Turbo V12.......:1peek:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-wide-2.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-wide-1.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-widescr.jpg

and about $400K too...

[CarlFST60L]

wow, that SL65 black series is horn :bow:

[FlatfootV8]

I've been lucky enough to have a drive of one of these C63's and WOW, best car I have sat in let alone driven......Cheers Muz.

Here's a couple of pics of the SL65 'Black Series', Twin Turbo V12.......:1peek:
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-wide-2.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-wide-1.jpg
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh64/vyc4b/Mercedes-Benz-SL65-AMG-2009-widescr.jpg

and about $400K too...


Wife and house for sale... I need room for this thing! ;)

[Martin_D]

and about $400K too...

Hate to break it to you but the Black series SL65 is a couple on top of that + :)

[vyc4b]

*edit*
$402,000.... :cool:
Ahh my mistake, I wasn't thinking of the 'Black Series.
Stunning Car.
Cheers.

[BAM*BAM]

The sl65 black series is coming in at between $600k and $800k.

[Sonnymad]

For those that own them, consider changing out the 0w-40 Mobil 1 that comes as 6.2L AMG factory fill, it simply doesnt have enough film strength for these engines. Evidence the clatterly valve train operation, odd big puff of smoke on start up (they all do it intermittently) and oil useage over the first 5000km. We advise 10w-60 as a great Aussie weather alternative :cool:

Oh so very true my swine infected mate :rofl:,we ended up using the 10w 40w in these benzs,they sound super quiet and oil usage ? what oil usage :)

[sjhugh]

I'll take your good advice.
When is the best time to change over?
Any suggestions on the oil brand.

[Sonnymad]

I'll take your good advice.
When is the best time to change over?
Any suggestions on the oil brand.

Straight away !!! we are using the royal purple stuff in the benz's

regards sonny

[VUSS346]

that video inside makes it sound shit. also sounds brand new and hasn't carboned up...

try this. :drool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQL2WZnDil4

Love the AMG C63 Estate!!! Definitely a possibility next time round for me! :)



hahahha i used to drive e 55 amgs running 15pound ,cls 500, s classes, ml 500 amgs back from g brothers they are all shit boxes:flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

, give me the ss ute any day off the week:rofl:

[sjhugh]

Straight away !!! we are using the royal purple stuff in the benz's

regards sonny



Thanks for the info.