March 2009 sales figures

[vecommo]

Anybody got them yet?

[teamkiwi]

http://carpoint.com.au/news/2009/vfacts-for-march-dead-cat-bounce-14711

1. Holden Commodore - 3544
2. Toyota HiLux - 3306
3. Toyota Corolla - 3007
4. Mazda 3 - 2801
5. Ford Falcon - 1990
6. Toyota Yaris - 1741
7. Hyundai Getz - 1597
8. Nissan Navara - 1562
9. Toyota Camry - 1515
10. Hyundai i30 - 1503

[Nitronic12]

That's a good sign.

[iloveholden]

Good to see Holden still on top....although many small cars in that top 10...signs of the time i guess :spew:

[nudenut]

It'll be a sad day if the Getz ever outsells the Falcon ...

[VW Golf R32]

That's a good sign.

Huh? Those numbers are awful.

[planetdavo]

The R word is having an effect, not to mention the effects of having the highest number of different brands per million people in the world.

[Hamico]

So much for Ford bumming and blowing a couple of months ago that the Falcon was starting to gain momentum.....looks to me it's gaining momentum in the wrong direction..:rolleyes:

How can Ford sustain the factory at this paltry rate

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[Ghia351]

So much for Ford bumming and blowing a couple of months ago that the Falcon was starting to gain momentum.....looks to me it's gaining momentum in the wrong direction..:rolleyes:

How can Ford sustain the factory at this paltry rate

.The same way Holden will ...obviously you didn't get today's press release.

[Hamico]

The same way Holden will ...obviously you didn't get today's press release.

So going off these figures, Ford are only building 2,500 Falcons, 1,000 Territorys and 1,000 utes a month, plus around 500 Falcons for export to NZ etc, it must be pretty quiet on the Ford factory floor at present...

Holden build around 4000 Commodores, 200 Statesman/Caprices and 1,000 utes a month, plus exports of around 3,000 a month to the US and around 3,000 a month to the Middle East, NZ, etc puts Holden in a better position volume wise...

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[Ghia351]

So going off these figures, Ford are only building 2,500 Falcons, 1,000 Territorys and 1,000 utes a month, plus around 500 Falcons for export to NZ etc, it must be pretty quiet on the Ford factory floor at present...

Holden build around 4000 Commodores, 200 Statesman/Caprices and 1,000 utes a month, plus exports of around 3,000 a month to the US and around 3,000 a month to the Middle East, NZ, etc puts Holden in a better position volume wise...

.Obviously not for long if the production output is now more closely aligned with Fords.

I've said it before it's not how much you sell, it's how much you make that ONLY counts.

The GMH Chairman said this morning on 3AW that Holden "burned" (his phrase) a huge amount of cash building all those cars in the last qrt of 2008 and the down days have made production schedules within and with suppliers very difficult, hence the prod cuts to give eveyone some reliability of demand.

By the way, do you know if the March sales in the US was mostly '08 build VE's?

[VW Golf R32]

So going off these figures, Ford are only building 2,500 Falcons, 1,000 Territorys and 1,000 utes a month, plus around 500 Falcons for export to NZ etc, it must be pretty quiet on the Ford factory floor at present...

Holden build around 4000 Commodores, 200 Statesman/Caprices and 1,000 utes a month, plus exports of around 3,000 a month to the US and around 3,000 a month to the Middle East, NZ, etc puts Holden in a better position volume wise...

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Ease up Hamico. It is a bad time for everybody and only going to get worse.

[Ghia351]

So going off these figures, Ford are only building 2,500 Falcons, 1,000 Territorys and 1,000 utes a month, plus around 500 Falcons for export to NZ etc, it must be pretty quiet on the Ford factory floor at present...

Holden build around 4000 Commodores, 200 Statesman/Caprices and 1,000 utes a month, plus exports of around 3,000 a month to the US and around 3,000 a month to the Middle East, NZ, etc puts Holden in a better position volume wise...

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By the way that's 11,200 cars yet the plant is dropping to 310 per day and one shift....which means you need a 36 day month with no weekends :confused:

[theVman]

Pretty sure export sales of the VE are down 80% which is the primary reason for the removal of second shift at the Elizabeth plant.

An 80% reduction is sales is quite a lot. From what I am hearing from the Middle East it doesn't suprise me as it has come to a grinding halt.

Hopefully exports pick up soon...

[shakows]

Does the Commodore figure include the new Sportswagon or is that seperate?

[VW Golf R32]

Pretty sure export sales of the VE are down 80% which is the primary reason for the removal of second shift at the Elizabeth plant.

An 80% reduction is sales is quite a lot. From what I am hearing from the Middle East it doesn't suprise me as it has come to a grinding halt.

Hopefully exports pick up soon...

The Dubai economy has collapsed.

[Marco]

Less than 2000 Falcons sold in a month? I never thought I'd see the day - has it ever been that low before?

Commodore is holding up....sort of. But even that sales volume isn't going to be sustainable in the long run. Let's hope that the second half of this year brings two things: a recovering economy and a revised Commodore to capitalise.

[Pickles]

The Dubai economy has collapsed.

Please explain.
cheers, Pickles.

[VW Golf R32]

Less than 2000 Falcons sold in a month? I never thought I'd see the day - has it ever been that low before?

Yes. 1200 odd is their lowest monthly record.

[Ghia351]

Please explain.
cheers, Pickles.
Maybe collapsed is too strong however the state has massive debt's and has been asking Abu Dhabi for major assistance. Dubai has the smallest oil reserves and was building it's future ecomony on commerce and tourism, obviously with massive construction programs, all on borrowed money with reduced oil revenue to fund it...Adu Dhabi is it's rich "brother", actually it's the wealthiest of all the emirates.

New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/12/world/middleeast/12dubai.html

[planetdavo]

Does the Commodore figure include the new Sportswagon or is that seperate?
Wagon is included. Ute is separate.

[clubbie]

Don't knock the Holden and Ford sales which are down "only" some 13% to last year (roughly) even though the segment is down by 25%. I hear the big fourbie sales are down more than 33% with Landcruiser sales stalling in Australia with no mines buying them ATM.

As for the rocket science of calculating production from monthly sales you do not have to be Einstein to work out that Holden has very large holding yards with thousands of cars awaiting a dealer order. Also remember last years full throttle production run was to stock up dealers for the G8. The funny part is although there are thousands of vehicles in storage yards you still have to wait for a manual SS ute from the factory.

The good news is that G8 sales are on the up and matching local sales but most of these are from stock already on US soil. The middle east crisis has dented sales and hence production more than anything else.

[payaya]

Aussie car sales may not have been as hard hit like the Japs but they dont rely on the Aussie market to survive.

[VH-COM]

Aussie built Holden vs Ford car sales for March
Commodore 3544
Ute 885
Caprice 138
Statesman 40
Total =4607

Falcon 1990
Territory 763
Falcon ute 845
Total = 3598

Territory receiving facelift should sell ok this month
source = goauto.com.au

[vecommo]

How did the rest of the Holden and Ford range go?

[planetdavo]

Aussie built Holden vs Ford car sales for March
Commodore 3544
Ute 885
Caprice 138
Statesman 40
Total =4607

Falcon 1990
Territory 763
Falcon ute 845
Total = 3598

Territory receiving facelift should sell ok this month
source = goauto.com.au
Ford's big problem is that this is pretty much going to be their sales, bar smallish numbers to New Zealand mostly.

[Pickles]

Aussie built Holden vs Ford car sales for March
Commodore 3544
Ute 885
Caprice 138
Statesman 40
Total =4607

Falcon 1990
Territory 763
Falcon ute 845
Total = 3598

Territory receiving facelift should sell ok this month
source = goauto.com.au

Interststing...I thought the Commodore figures always included the Ute, as they were considered to be Commodore "derivatives" ie, 3544 included Utes.
Has anyone any comment on this?
Cheers, Pickles.

[Hamico]

Ford's big problem is that this is pretty much going to be their sales, bar smallish numbers to New Zealand mostly.

Holden are ahead 1000 local sales a month, plus exports

[VH-COM]

Holden are ahead 1000 local sales a month, plus exports

PLUS Alloytech engines coming back into Aust in the Captiva and Colorado.
It may not be vehicle numbers but it's jobs jobs jobs . :)

[vecommo]

Interststing...I thought the Commodore figures always included the Ute, as they were considered to be Commodore "derivatives" ie, 3544 included Utes.
Has anyone any comment on this?
Cheers, Pickles.

Wagons are included, however ute figures have been counted seperately for as long as I can remember.

[VH-COM]

How did the rest of the Holden and Ford range go?

Not seen a full sales breakdown yet - but it must be available somewhere.

[Pickles]

Not seen a full sales breakdown yet - but it must be available somewhere.
That would be good.....to get a FULL individual breakdown of ALL of Holden's sales figures from March...ie, model by model.
Cheers, Pickles.