VE GTS bodykit for the VE SS?

[VE 348]

I was thinking that lots of holdens have got the big brother bodykits on standard cars so is it possible to do the VE upgrade and has anybody done this yet?

[GODSMACK]

I couldnt think of anything worse..

[VE 348]

I couldnt think of anything worse..

Why?.....looking like a GTS for half the price might sound good to some people

[CSP]

It would probably be cheaper to trade in the SS for a GTS.

The list of what you'd need (what I can think of).......

Front bar
Side skirts
Rear bar
Rear lights - $900 EACH!
Blank panel above rear lights
Two lots of front lights (flog lights and driving lights)
All electrical modules for new lights

[CLUBRED]

If your car is white, I'll think about buying your SS kit - if cheap LOL.

[CSP]

I've always thought it was dumb to buy a car and make it look like something it's not! Why? Just buy the car you want it to look like in the first place!

[GODSMACK]

Why?.....looking like a GTS for half the price might sound good to some people
Yep, dont forget to buy a 307 badge too...

Putting on a GTS bodykit hardly means you have purchased a GTS for half the price! But hey its your car, you can ruin it any way you want..

[_MetalliX_]

There was a guy who turned his Omega into an HSV. Search for 'Omega Special Vehicle'.

[GODSMACK]

Why not take the current kit off your SS and transform it into an Omega?

Im sure there are members on here happy to swap there V6 donk and box for your V8.

[CSP]

There was a guy who turned his Omega into an HSV. Search for 'Omega Special Vehicle'.

Yup - What a waste of money!

[[Mitch]]

HSV VE GTS Front Bar Inc. Fog Lamps, Driving Lamps, Brackets, Harnesses, Mesh, Bonnet Garnish and Under Tray = $ 3,925.00

HSV VE GTS Rear Kit. Inc. Bar, Tail Lights & Quarter Caps = $ 5,930.00

HSV VE GTS Side Skirts = $ 1,070.00

HSV VE Side Gaurds inc. Indicators = $ 2,830.00

HSV VE GTS Rear Spoiler = $ 1,195.00

HSV VE Senator Rear Spoiler = $ 1,095.00

Those prices are from the CAPA website, looking at at least $15,000 and that's without the wheels. Better off just buying a GTS.

[Justin@CAPA]

I was thinking that lots of holdens have got the big brother bodykits on standard cars so is it possible to do the VE upgrade and has anybody done this yet?

Can be done no worries all pricing on the genuine stuff is on our web site here http://www.capa.com.au/prices_ls1.htm#ls1_accessories let me know if you have any questions

Regards

Justin

[GODSMACK]

;1478133']HSV VE GTS Front Bar Inc. Fog Lamps, Driving Lamps, Brackets, Harnesses, Mesh, Bonnet Garnish and Under Tray = $ 3,925.00

HSV VE GTS Rear Kit. Inc. Bar, Tail Lights & Quarter Caps = $ 5,930.00

HSV VE GTS Side Skirts = $ 1,070.00

HSV VE Side Gaurds inc. Indicators = $ 2,830.00

HSV VE GTS Rear Spoiler = $ 1,195.00

HSV VE Senator Rear Spoiler = $ 1,095.00

Those prices are from the CAPA website, looking at at least $15,000 and that's without the wheels. Better off just buying a GTS.

Plus add a little more $$ seeing as he would want to get a pro to fit it all for him...

[ADAM 26]

I Want To Make My Wl Look Like A Barina. Is There A Body Kit For That?

[GODSMACK]

I Want To Make My Wl Look Like A Barina. Is There A Body Kit For That?

You may need to roll your guards, i do believe the Barina has wider rears than your WL.. :jester:

[The-V8-Power]

Well I have personally seen it done on an Omega, it wasn't like the way Roonstain did his.

Roonstain had the whole kit besides the side fenders, the one i saw had the front and rear bumpers with the side skirts. The whole front was correct besides where the fog and driving lamps go it was just mesh. The rear bumper had "quads" to make it look like it was a genuine HSV but was given away with the stock rear lights.

[Kuzman89]

I say go for it, buy all the parts off ebay or second hand.

You don't need to do the whole kit, maybe just the front and side sections?

Still look pretty effin cool, nothing wrong with putting on another bodykit. its your car, do watever the fk u want

[gasguz]

It would be no different than all the other fake Brockies, VL Walkies, VN Group A's & lets not forget every other model that HSV has released a car for. At least you are starting with a V8, as most of the mock ups are 6 bangers.

Mock ups are every where, dont forget to also factor in the must have Chevy Badges also.

Good luck with it all. The guy with the Omega that has been mocked up to a HSV is selling his kit, check out the classifieds section.

Cheers

[dmar]

i see more fake clubsports than real ones these days

[Jarhead]

At the end of the day it's your car so you can do whatever you want. Be aware that your are not a pioneer in this kind of transformation.

There is a guy we looked after for a week who drove a BMW323 which he had transformed into a tranny M3. This guy would actually have people pull up and comment on him having a nice car. He would be happy a punch letting people believe he had a M3. We would joke and play along. Once I commented that "these M3's are pretty quick", to which he replied "fark yeah, faster than a Porche; throws you back hey?"

I never had the heart to tell him we knew he was a fraud and his POS 323 was slower than a taxi.

I'm not a big fan of representing something is more than what it is. I prefer to go the other way and have a sleeper.

FTR - a nice SS with nice wheels, tune, exhaust, tint, lowered looks much better than any tranny on the road.

[TimmyG]

Yup - What a waste of money!

Another dumb waste of a post by CSP. :stick:

Its your car mate think it through its a lot of money to throw at it just for the outside. If you haven't already spend it on engine mods.

Cheers
Tim

[CSP]

Another dumb waste of a post by CSP. :stick:


Yeah well, everyone's entitled to their opinion - including me! So I guess all opinion based posts are a waste huh?

:moon: :flip2:

[jai]

Id say there is a bit of cream in that CAPA pricing. I picked up my Senator rear spoiler for under $900 inc GST straight from holden spare parts with no special discount in December.

Ive seen tail lights for $450ea at holparts i think.

Its not hard to fit either... real easy!

I reckon if you doing a bulk buy at Holden you'd get it a fair bit cheaper.

But I think, being a GENUINE HSV owner (i have the hat to prove it) that so long as you have a 6L V8, youre more than welcome to put a bit of external styling on ya car. Just man up and get some coils and $4k of HSV brakes and no one would pick the difference.

JK

[blackbettyhsv]

You may need to roll your guards, i do believe the Barina has wider rears than your WL.. :jester:

my mum put a clubsport front on her barina looks sh^t hot but yeh had to roll the guards,. she's pretty hard goin into corners

[commyvt]

i am makng my own kit as luv the coupe 60 and carnt buy parts anywhere including non gen,got to be best thing gmh has made(in my eyes)for while.has few changes as front bar aint real user frendly being 75 mm from ground so made a streeter version bit like i spose the vf will be.back bar be the same style also jamming a group a vn type bonnet scoop and omega grill which fits an looks great and can fit a capa intercooler in it 70 mm lower which has its pluses.so if you want to put a kit on a non hsv car go for it as your making it your own at a budget.

[VE 348]

Thanks for the feedback guys.......had no idea of the cost....just thought I could trade the SS parts in for the GTS parts maybe pay $5,000 extra.

Maybe a shop out there would co sponsor the build to market their product??????????? hint hint

[kpop]

Yup - What a waste of money!

yeh but that kid was on his P plates, so thats a not too bad reason to do a conversion.

for the main topic question though, dont put the hsv kit on. youll always look like a 'wannabe'. just spend the money making your SS look mint. lowered + rims and some decent power mods, and itll get 100 times more respect then with a hsv kit on.

[hsv andrew]

your forgetting one more thing! the front guards are different as well and are about $1000 each bare! then you need the vents to go in them! plus paint! a ve gts is starting to sound cheap hey!

[CSP]

your forgetting one more thing! the front guards are different as well and are about $1000 each bare! then you need the vents to go in them! plus paint! a ve gts is starting to sound cheap hey!


;1478133']HSV VE Side Gaurds inc. Indicators = $ 2,830.00


But yeah... Cheaper just to buy a GTS, and a better idea!

[VE 348]

Ok so I guess the senator kit is out of the question :jester:

[tyrhantc]

for the main topic question though, dont put the hsv kit on. youll always look like a 'wannabe'. just spend the money making your SS look mint. lowered + rims and some decent power mods, and itll get 100 times more respect then with a hsv kit on.

Mate I agree. Your car is already looking good. Nice rims, nice sound. Lower it and it will look even better. The only other mod you will need is a big triple wing to give it that awesome shopping trolley look... :goodjob:

[Roonstain]

Seeing as plenty of people in here are talking out of the ar$e, as they have no experience in doing what I have done (as I am, to my knowledge, the first one to complete the rear end properly of a VE HSV kit) - for example, you seem to think that modules are required for the electrics - BS! you need to resistors for the blinkers - $3!!! headlights are a straight swap - foggies: just run the cable and splice it into either the high beam or low beam active (depending on whether you want the capability for all four lights to be able to turn on with your parkers, low beams or high beams only.

Retail price on the kit is approx $15K form HSV bare
I spent around 12 months sourcing my parts, and spent no where near that amount

Now, some of you (including the ever so enlightened CSP) will say it was a waste of money
I disagree - the amount I learnt practically and with dealing with different business' etc (i was 18 when i started this) is invaluable, and will stay with me for life. It invigorated my love for cars, taught me a fair bit, and was enjoyable

What about you CSP, you have gone through a V6 calais, VE Clubby, and now a Calais V Sportwagon - how much money have you wasted through stamp duty, depreciation, financing etc??? I know it is because you wanted to, so apply the same logic to my situation
I can do whatever I want to my car, and if you don't like it, fine, but you don't need to persecute me and speak negatively about the car in every thread of a similar topic - I posted my progress, as I was happy with the outcome of my work, and thought it may help others if they decided to go on a similar route.



All in all, it is a good thing to do, but you need to budget a long time to accumulate parts slowly, unless you want to pay excessive prices




It is your car, so do what you want, and dont listen to losers on here, as they dont have to live with the car every day. Good luck mate, and if you want help along the way if you decide to do it, dont hesitate to PM me.

[VE 348]

Seeing as plenty of people in here are talking out of the ar$e, as they have no experience in doing what I have done (as I am, to my knowledge, the first one to complete the rear end properly of a VE HSV kit) - for example, you seem to think that modules are required for the electrics - BS! you need to resistors for the blinkers - $3!!! headlights are a straight swap - foggies: just run the cable and splice it into either the high beam or low beam active (depending on whether you want the capability for all four lights to be able to turn on with your parkers, low beams or high beams only.

Retail price on the kit is approx $15K form HSV bare
I spent around 12 months sourcing my parts, and spent no where near that amount

Now, some of you (including the ever so enlightened CSP) will say it was a waste of money
I disagree - the amount I learnt practically and with dealing with different business' etc (i was 18 when i started this) is invaluable, and will stay with me for life. It invigorated my love for cars, taught me a fair bit, and was enjoyable

What about you CSP, you have gone through a V6 calais, VE Clubby, and now a Calais V Sportwagon - how much money have you wasted through stamp duty, depreciation, financing etc??? I know it is because you wanted to, so apply the same logic to my situation
I can do whatever I want to my car, and if you don't like it, fine, but you don't need to persecute me and speak negatively about the car in every thread of a similar topic - I posted my progress, as I was happy with the outcome of my work, and thought it may help others if they decided to go on a similar route.



All in all, it is a good thing to do, but you need to budget a long time to accumulate parts slowly, unless you want to pay excessive prices




It is your car, so do what you want, and dont listen to losers on here, as they dont have to live with the car every day. Good luck mate, and if you want help along the way if you decide to do it, dont hesitate to PM me.

Well said and nice work mate :goodjob:

Can you post up some pixs of your car or give me the link?

[bonners]

Mate I agree. Your car is already looking good. Nice rims, nice sound. Lower it and it will look even better. The only other mod you will need is a big triple wing to give it that awesome shopping trolley look... :goodjob:

Yep, you both need to be lowered.

[tyrhantc]

Yep, you both need to be lowered.

I agree mate but what about the triple wing...?:confused:

[bonners]

I'm thinking of going little wing. Like the Calais one.

[blackbettyhsv]

serious this time mate I had a fake VS senator 6cyl auto about 14 years ago, was bloody hard to pick from a real one, brought it like that from gold star car yard on sydney road. back here in traralgon people thought I won tatts or something as there was'nt many around back then.
it was all good and dandy until a real one came along side checking me out, it just did'nt feel right.
so I bit the bullet & got a real one & never looked back, just like a sheila with fake boobs, they are always fake

[agro8]

i totally agree with roonstain if he wants to put a bodykit on his car because he likes the looks of it go for it,it is your car and there is always going to be some1 elses opinion,although i would hold of on it for a little while because im sure some1 will start making fibreglass copies and selling them on ebay soon and the price will prob be under 15k lol.

[bonners]

SSV have already started making stuff for the VE

http://ssv.com.au/ssv_cat.php?from=0&type=100&vmake_id=8&vmodel_id=355&modeltype=2&product_type_id=All%20Products&ssv_go_x=10&ssv_go_y=17&ssv_filter=&

[Jarhead]

Seeing as plenty of people in here are talking out of the ar$e, as they have no experience in doing what I have done (as I am, to my knowledge, the first one to complete the rear end properly of a VE HSV kit) - for example, you seem to think that modules are required for the electrics - BS! you need to resistors for the blinkers - $3!!! headlights are a straight swap - foggies: just run the cable and splice it into either the high beam or low beam active (depending on whether you want the capability for all four lights to be able to turn on with your parkers, low beams or high beams only.

Retail price on the kit is approx $15K form HSV bare
I spent around 12 months sourcing my parts, and spent no where near that amount

Now, some of you (including the ever so enlightened CSP) will say it was a waste of money
I disagree - the amount I learnt practically and with dealing with different business' etc (i was 18 when i started this) is invaluable, and will stay with me for life. It invigorated my love for cars, taught me a fair bit, and was enjoyable

What about you CSP, you have gone through a V6 calais, VE Clubby, and now a Calais V Sportwagon - how much money have you wasted through stamp duty, depreciation, financing etc??? I know it is because you wanted to, so apply the same logic to my situation
I can do whatever I want to my car, and if you don't like it, fine, but you don't need to persecute me and speak negatively about the car in every thread of a similar topic - I posted my progress, as I was happy with the outcome of my work, and thought it may help others if they decided to go on a similar route.



All in all, it is a good thing to do, but you need to budget a long time to accumulate parts slowly, unless you want to pay excessive prices




It is your car, so do what you want, and dont listen to losers on here, as they dont have to live with the car every day. Good luck mate, and if you want help along the way if you decide to do it, dont hesitate to PM me.


Totally disagree with your entire philosophy. I have a similar issue with fake watches. Being a bit of a collector or nice watches and pens, I find it offensive when people show me a fake and say 'you can't tell the difference'.

I suppose the same argument extends to all things. How many women do you see shopping with their fake LV handbags?

I guess people will always find a way of justifying their decision. Just like I justify my buying decisions.

Just don't kid yourself. Ask yourself this question truthfully - why would anyone try and pass off a fake anything?

The answer is always one of the following.

1. You can't appreciate the real thing and don't value the genuine article.

2. You can't afford the real thing but you want others to think you can.


Just like Learner drivers need to have an 'L' plate and Provisional drivers need to have a 'P' plate, I would like to start seeing a government mandate requiring all tranny vehicles to clearly display a 'F' plate.

Failure to comply with the (fake) 'F' plate should be punishable by having to turn up in the said tranny vehicle to attend a car club meeting for the type of car you are trying to imitate.

[agro8]

you have two answers for the questions u asked jarhead and every1 has a different oppnion so your two answers is what u think my answer would be that maybe he likes the styling of the gts since imo they look a lot better than an ss so he would like his car to have this look he may not care if its a gts replica he might just like the look

[tyrhantc]

I didnt realise that LS1 had become a site for just internal mods for our Holdens. I think that everyone can have an opinion but some people seem to be hanging sh%t on those who want to do body styling mods.

This is my 4th SS and I have never had body styling mods to any of them except for a roller tonneau on my SSfifty (does that make me a try-hard?). Truthfully I can say that I never really got the bug or saw the need to do body styling mods but within reason I don't see the need to hang shit on those that have/want them.

As I said I have never had the urge to perform these mods but I also like the look of a G8 style bonnet for my SS... So does that make me somone who can't afford a G8 and wants others to think I can as per Jarhead's diatribe ...or that I dont appreciate my SS??? :flipoff:

...Or what about the guys who put HSV binnacles in their SS's...does that make them people who secretly want to own a GTS and want others to think they do...

Or lets take it further....what about everyone who puts an exhaust on their new QUIET SS or GTS...so what your saying is no-one appreciates the real thing and we all secretly want a 69 monaro with straight through pipes...or the guys who put a TT in their car just really cant afford a Lambo but secretly is trying to pass their cars off as one.....BS....

And as for the people with fake Tag/Omega watches I think they do appreciate the value of a true Tag/Omega and thats why they have them...so fu%kin what if they cant afford them...I have a TAG (real) but would I spend $10k+ on an Omega...? Fuc* no...Would my old boss who was worth $200million buy one...? fuc* no.

So if VE 348 or Roonstain wanna put a kit on their car to modify from stock I say good on 'em...I probably wouldn't do the same but thats my opinion but I wouldn't bag the crap out of them...

Cheers for listening to my 5c worth.
Hoey.

[bonners]

Well said mate. This is the second time I have seen Jarhead make some flipant remarks which were not required.

Like you, I probably wouldn't change anything on my SS. Maybe the wing to the smaller type. Doesn't mean anybody else doesn't or wont want to. Their choice. Good luck to them.

It bugs me so much we pick on people because of their choices of what they wish to do.

As for watches. I have a real TAG and a fake Omega. I couldn't give a flying..... I know it's real and I know one is fake. People that wear fakes know deep down they are fake.

Who cares.....

[tyrhantc]

Like you, I probably wouldn't change anything on my SS. Maybe the wing to the smaller type. Doesn't mean anybody else doesn't or wont want to. Their choice. Good luck to them.


Who cares.....

OMG...!!! Adam you really want a Calais...haha:jester:

[bonners]

Nope. The carbon fibre wing off a W427 would be best

[_MetalliX_]

Just to throw a spanner in the works, there is a dealer here in Sydney selling when they call a 'JVS Commodore' (at one stage they were calling it a 'Series II' Commodore).

Its basically an Omega with a Clubsport front bar minus the foglights, an assortment of 20-inch wheels and a painted rear diffuser.

A member on here bought one and everyones initial reaction was "Wow, so tastefully modified" - including a certain protagonist in this thread - despite the fact it was essentially stock.

Maybe get in touch with a 'JVS' Holden dealer to source the front bar?

Images:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02664.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02667.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02669.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02670.jpg

Original Thread (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=114271)

[GODSMACK]

A member on here bought one and everyones initial reaction was "Wow, so tastefully modified" - including a certain protagonist in this thread - despite the fact it was essentially stock.

[/URL]

LOL, i can see who you are referring to....

[bigdogdazza]

I reckon would look pretty trick but after reading some price lists there is no way that would be a worthwhile spend, hsv parts like a pair of indicators and gaurds nearly 3k thats rediculous money unless gold plated!

[bonners]

Just to throw a spanner in the works, there is a dealer here in Sydney selling when they call a 'JVS Commodore' (at one stage they were calling it a 'Series II' Commodore).

Its basically an Omega with a Clubsport front bar minus the foglights, an assortment of 20-inch wheels and a painted rear diffuser.

A member on here bought one and everyones initial reaction was "Wow, so tastefully modified" - including a certain protagonist in this thread - despite the fact it was essentially stock.

Maybe get in touch with a 'JVS' Holden dealer to source the front bar?

Images:
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02664.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02667.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02669.jpg
http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p88/D3N1S06/DSC02670.jpg

Original Thread (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=114271)

This looks like the SSV (Sydney Special Vehicles) stuff.

[Roonstain]

Totally disagree with your entire philosophy. I have a similar issue with fake watches. Being a bit of a collector or nice watches and pens, I find it offensive when people show me a fake and say 'you can't tell the difference'.

I suppose the same argument extends to all things. How many women do you see shopping with their fake LV handbags?

I guess people will always find a way of justifying their decision. Just like I justify my buying decisions.

Just don't kid yourself. Ask yourself this question truthfully - why would anyone try and pass off a fake anything?

The answer is always one of the following.

1. You can't appreciate the real thing and don't value the genuine article.

2. You can't afford the real thing but you want others to think you can.


Just like Learner drivers need to have an 'L' plate and Provisional drivers need to have a 'P' plate, I would like to start seeing a government mandate requiring all tranny vehicles to clearly display a 'F' plate.

Failure to comply with the (fake) 'F' plate should be punishable by having to turn up in the said tranny vehicle to attend a car club meeting for the type of car you are trying to imitate.
You are a genuine idiot
How can you say i do not appreciate the real thing, or i cant afford the real thing but want others to think i can?
A VE senator sits in my garage as i type this (my father's) and I respect the hell out of it (even as a complete stocker).
I have also left my commodore badging on the car - I could have easily removed that. Also i refer to it as the omega special vehicle - so it isn't a secret

Personally, i think i did well to buy the car BRAND NEW when i was in year 11 - worked hard for that!

Your supposed F plate idea - I attended a dyno day at Gentech in canberra where a large cohort of the NSW and ACT HSV owners club were in attendance - I had 5 or 6 of them around my car looking, and had a few ask me some pointers so they could think about doing similar to a VE SS or similar. So bring on the supposed f plate punishment

I also have never said you cannot tell the difference between my car and a HSV - there are plenty of things that are different:
No black sections on front bar (i prefer one colour throughout)
No HSV side 'gills'
Pathetic Omega interior (stock as a rock)
V6 exhaust note (not bad, just not the same as an L series motor!)
etc

here are some pics of my car for those who have not seen it
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/100_0171.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/DSC00008.jpg

[bonners]

Roon

I think you have done very well young man. It's a prime exapmple and I'm sure it did teach you many things.

Don't let anyone knock you or your car.

[planetdavo]

Don't worry about them Roonstain.
I'm often amused by some of this sites members thinking it's a travesty fitting a genuine HSV body kit to a car, yet it's quite ok for the same person to fit the worlds ugliest 20 or 22 inch rims to their own car, and you are meant to love their choice! :spew:

[tyrhantc]

Jarhead I think you put your foot up your ass again...:confused:

[Jarhead]

You are a genuine idiot
How can you say i do not appreciate the real thing, or i cant afford the real thing but want others to think i can?
A VE senator sits in my garage as i type this (my father's) and I respect the hell out of it (even as a complete stocker).


I have also left my commodore badging on the car - I could have easily removed that. Also i refer to it as the omega special vehicle - so it isn't a secret

Personally, i think i did well to buy the car BRAND NEW when i was in year 11 - worked hard for that!

Your supposed F plate idea - I attended a dyno day at Gentech in canberra where a large cohort of the NSW and ACT HSV owners club were in attendance - I had 5 or 6 of them around my car looking, and had a few ask me some pointers so they could think about doing similar to a VE SS or similar. So bring on the supposed f plate punishment

I also have never said you cannot tell the difference between my car and a HSV - there are plenty of things that are different:
No black sections on front bar (i prefer one colour throughout)
No HSV side 'gills'
Pathetic Omega interior (stock as a rock)
V6 exhaust note (not bad, just not the same as an L series motor!)
etc

here are some pics of my car for those who have not seen it
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/100_0171.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/DSC00008.jpg


Roonstain, in case no one on this forum has had the balls to tell you straight, you car looks ridiculous. On top of that the V6 exhaust note would also equate to V6 peformance which again is an embarranssment to the kind of car you are trying to represent.

At the end of the day you need to live with your car and you need to learn to accept the 'WTF is that?' looks you miust get every day.

If you ever cross my path on the road I will let you know what I really think.

BTW, most people (unlike myself) will tell you what you want to hear. I can guarantee you these same people are mocking you behind your back. One day you will thank me and others who have tried to steer you straight.

Until that day dawns I sincerely hope you learn to discern the difference between a look of admiration and one of disdain.

[planetdavo]

Jarhead clearly has some issues going on...:rolleyes:

[Jarhead]

Roon

I think you have done very well young man. It's a prime exapmple and I'm sure it did teach you many things.

Don't let anyone knock you or your car.


It most certainly is a prime 'exapmple'! We all know what you mean by that!

Im also sure it did teach him MANY things. Often life's lessons are learned the hard way. The trick is to not make them again. Thank you again for posting pictures of your car, Roonstain. Often words can't quite describe the pitfalls of mankind.

[WOMBIE]

Roonstain, in case no one on this forum has had the balls to tell you straight, you car looks ridiculous. On top of that the V6 exhaust note would also equate to V6 peformance which again is an embarranssment to the kind of car you are trying to represent.

At the end of the day you need to live with your car and you need to learn to accept the 'WTF is that?' looks you miust get every day.

If you ever cross my path on the road I will let you know what I really think.

BTW, most people (unlike myself) will tell you what you want to hear. I can guarantee you these same people are mocking you behind your back. One day you will thank me and others who have tried to steer you straight.

Until that day dawns I sincerely hope you learn to discern the difference between a look of admiration and one of disdain.


Got a My Ride thread happening mate......i'm sure there'd be plenty of people on here that would like to have the oportuninity to pass judgement on your ride......if you've got the balls that is :nyuk:


My bet is that you don't :limpy:

[planetdavo]

Jarhead, just go get a sock from your drawer and stick it in your mouth FFS.
His car looks for most of the part like a VE HSV, so saying it "looks ridiculous" is clearly just a cheap shot. If you don't agree with people doing mock ups that's your choice, but the way you are carrying on is a whole other story.....

[ss ute 01]

jarhead.. do you really think because you are one of the only people critisizing this car that that is because you are the only one with the 'balls' to tell the truth...maybe everyone else genuinely doesn't have a problem with the car, get over it:flipoff:

[VE 348]

Hey metellex...that looks good....be interesting to know how much

And roonstain you have done well mate....I wish I had a car loking like that when I was your age.....your car would turn heads all over the place.

Dont matter if some people dont like it mate....you have done well.

Save up some more mate and stick a turbo on the side and blow some V8's away.

[bonners]

It most certainly is a prime 'exapmple'! We all know what you mean by that!

Im also sure it did teach him MANY things. Often life's lessons are learned the hard way. The trick is to not make them again. Thank you again for posting pictures of your car, Roonstain. Often words can't quite describe the pitfalls of mankind.

FFS, mate you must be a king. I'm sure in all your wise years you have never accidently hit an extra key.

Pitfalls of mankind.......LOL

As for mocking him. Oh yeah, that's right. I've been sitting here all day mocking him behind his back LOL...... If only I had the money to do what he has done at his age. Did you have a nice car at 19?

[lowgto]

You are a genuine idiot
How can you say i do not appreciate the real thing, or i cant afford the real thing but want others to think i can?
A VE senator sits in my garage as i type this (my father's) and I respect the hell out of it (even as a complete stocker).
I have also left my commodore badging on the car - I could have easily removed that. Also i refer to it as the omega special vehicle - so it isn't a secret

Personally, i think i did well to buy the car BRAND NEW when i was in year 11 - worked hard for that!

Your supposed F plate idea - I attended a dyno day at Gentech in canberra where a large cohort of the NSW and ACT HSV owners club were in attendance - I had 5 or 6 of them around my car looking, and had a few ask me some pointers so they could think about doing similar to a VE SS or similar. So bring on the supposed f plate punishment

I also have never said you cannot tell the difference between my car and a HSV - there are plenty of things that are different:
No black sections on front bar (i prefer one colour throughout)
No HSV side 'gills'
Pathetic Omega interior (stock as a rock)
V6 exhaust note (not bad, just not the same as an L series motor!)
etc

here are some pics of my car for those who have not seen it
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/100_0171.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk26/Roonstain/DSC00008.jpg

Roonstain,

As one of the HSV Club members who attended this day i know for a fact that MANY of my fellow members thought that it was a excellent quality kit and finished product.
The members were also impressed with the fact that you didn't badge it up with HSV badges and decals and that you didn't strut around with the "my car is a HSV" look.
The fact is your car looks great, you haven't tried to sell it as a HSV and you
have the respect of a lot of people unlike the other insecure forum member on here.

:goodjob:

[VE 348]

Thanks Bonners,

Just took a look at the SSV site...the HSV body kit front and back is $3k fitted.

Maybe I will debadge my car and rebadge it SS 350 and have my own SV.

Maybe I will do **** all and just do hedders...just thoughts

[bonners]

Springs man, springs.

All good. I like some of their stuff.

[VE 348]

Springs man, springs.

All good. I like some of their stuff.

As long as you help me put my zorst back on when I scrape it off on my driveway.....oh and sticky tape my front spolier up when I smash it into gutters....hehe

[bonners]

Mate I haven't scraped yet and I make sure to reverse park. That said it's always on my mind.

[kpop]

So if VE 348 or Roonstain wanna put a kit on their car to modify from stock I say good on 'em...I probably wouldn't do the same but thats my opinion but I wouldn't bag the crap out of them...


agree with you, just as long as they dont tell people its actually a HSV. those are the real loosers.

[bonners]

I agree but he has said he hasn't put HSV badges on and left his Holden ones on. He has even had a laugh with himself by calling it an Omega Special Vehicle.

[kpop]

I agree but he has said he hasn't put HSV badges on and left his Holden ones on. He has even had a laugh with himself by calling it an Omega Special Vehicle.

ah yeh i knew that, i was just making a general comment about the people out there who do try to pass off their fake car as a real one.

eg:

bmw 3 series with 320i and M3 badge
stock r34 gtt skyline with GTR badges
lancers with non connected intercoolers

[VE 348]

ah yeh i knew that, i was just making a general comment about the people out there who do try to pass off their fake car as a real one.

eg:

bmw 3 series with 320i and M3 badge
stock r34 gtt skyline with GTR badges
lancers with non connected intercoolers

Yep good point mate......I would not say its a GTS.....W427 sounds better

How many mockup cars are out and about....thousands......none of them have lost any sleep from your comments

[fx160]

Just read all this thread and what an interesting read
i am suprised that some people are so concerned about what others do to there cars
if you want to put a kit on change the wheels or even put the wrong badges on (chev or hsv) so what it's your car and as you like it thats all that maters

kev

[Kuzman89]

ROONSTAIN AND METALLIX!!



Your cars look mint for a 6.

And why the hell not??? Is the omega 195kw? If you twin turboed a holden 6 it would shit all over a HSV, so does it really matter at the end of the day if its a 6? Look at the F6's FFS lol.

Im on my P's and I own a 60th anniversary sv6 ute. I like the stock kit, but am thinking of a few exterior mods, already got high flow cats with twin tips, but apart from that, nothing else visual wise, I hate the chev badge, so that leaves me with the the body kit..

Might look into the SSV kits. Just sucks how a bonnet with nostrils costs $2500. And the walkinshire ones look like arse lol...

[NickS]

Interesting thread ... it always amazes me how strongly people can feel about OTHER PEOPLE'S CHOICES !!! As it impacts on your life in what way ?

:confused:

Personally, I'd never do the body kit thing. I'm a big fan of rim changes and on more than one occasion have had HSV rims on a Holden ... I'm just not a huge fan of changing the body kit. Does this mean it doesn't look good when done properly ? (i.e. Roonstain's OSV) ... nope, I think he's done an awesome job (some big red brakes would finish the whole thing off ... :D) but it looks great. Almost everyone here has changed something on their car, and if you think you are entitled to change whatever you want you should probably give everyone else the same rights.

In the end I guess it's a public forum and you have to take the good with the bad, if you can't take the negative comments it's probably best not to post up any pics. Just ignore them and they will go away, giving them a long reply just stirs them up to post more crap.

It's your car, if you like what you've done then congrats, that's really all that matters.

:goodjob:

[vzss05]

Interesting thread ... it always amazes me how strongly people can feel about OTHER PEOPLE'S CHOICES !!! As it impacts on your life in what way ?

:confused:

Personally, I'd never do the body kit thing. I'm a big fan of rim changes and on more than one occasion have had HSV rims on a Holden ... I'm just not a huge fan of changing the body kit. Does this mean it doesn't look good when done properly ? (i.e. Roonstain's OSV) ... nope, I think he's done an awesome job (some big red brakes would finish the whole thing off ... :D) but it looks great. Almost everyone here has changed something on their car, and if you think you are entitled to change whatever you want you should probably give everyone else the same rights.

In the end I guess it's a public forum and you have to take the good with the bad, if you can't take the negative comments it's probably best not to post up any pics. Just ignore them and they will go away, giving them a long reply just stirs them up to post more crap.

It's your car, if you like what you've done then congrats, that's really all that matters.

:goodjob:

Well said Nick, as for Jarhead - shouldn't your name start with something else

[bad88u]

[QUOTE=vzss05;1479608]Well said Nick, as for Jarhead - shouldn't your name start with something else[/QU OTE]


is it shit head.:goodjob: 10 points for me.

[Hammer]

Roonstain, in case no one on this forum has had the balls to tell you straight, you car looks ridiculous. On top of that the V6 exhaust note would also equate to V6 peformance which again is an embarranssment to the kind of car you are trying to represent.

At the end of the day you need to live with your car and you need to learn to accept the 'WTF is that?' looks you miust get every day.

If you ever cross my path on the road I will let you know what I really think.

BTW, most people (unlike myself) will tell you what you want to hear. I can guarantee you these same people are mocking you behind your back. One day you will thank me and others who have tried to steer you straight.

Until that day dawns I sincerely hope you learn to discern the difference between a look of admiration and one of disdain.
I think you need to PULL YOUR HEAD IN
he's a young man have you even thought to yourself he CANT GET A V8 YET hes only 19 due to new laws hes not legaly alowed to buy/drive a high powered car v8/turbo

roostain, yoru car looks awsome well done :)

[vzss05]

[QUOTE=vzss05;1479608]Well said Nick, as for Jarhead - shouldn't your name start with something else[/QU OTE]


is it shit head.:goodjob: 10 points for me.

I was thinking dick, but still sounds good. Again while I personally may not have gone done the path Roonstain has, I can appreciate the effort and hard work he has put in to it. I think jealosy has alot to play from some people. I for sure didnt have a new car at 19 (lol yet to have one at 31) but instead of putting him down, I say good on him

[Jarhead]

Guys, I really appreciate the 'sticks and stones' stuff. My feelings are hurt beyond repair.:bawl:

As for the topic at hand, a GTS bodykit on an SS is a terrible idea. But as I have mentioned on here numerously it's your choice and your car - do with it what you want. I voiced my opinion and because it doesn't agree with some it seems I am the anti-christ. Get a life people!

As for Roonstain, I didn't buy a new car until I was 25. Instead I bought appreciating assets at your age. It was more luck than good management but if you are to take anything positive away from this public forum it would be to stop spending money on a depreciating asset and invest in something that will earn you money.

I don't know your financial position by any means but unless you have some kind of asset that is going to increase in value, the decision to buy a new car and then spend thousands of $$ turning it into a OSV, has probably been a bad choice.

The majority of people that I work with are 17-25yo so I know the attraction of looking flashy in front of your peers. It's your money and you earnt it so you can choose to spend it any way you want. I'm only pointing out some pitfalls that face young people.

Finally, there are lots of people on here congratulating you on your car and your choices. The fact is it was a very bad financial decision - cars like yours are very difficult to sell and will depreciate quicker than any other Omega. If these guys were genuine friends they would be advising anyone in your position against making the same mistakes you made. Instead to boost you ego and make you feel better they say well done/good job etc, whilst politely qualifying their comments with 'while I personally wouldn't do it...etc'. You see at some point, even Michael Jackson had people telling him the plastic surgery looked good. His 'friends' would have said it's you body and your money you can do with it what you like. To continue the analogy, I can see the merit in a bit of a nip and tuck to peronaise your ride but a full body kit will always turn into a freak show.

Sorry to be the one to tell you what everyone else is really thinking.

Now, back to the diatribe............

[kpop]

Finally, there are lots of people on here congratulating you on your car and your choices. The fact is it was a very bad financial decision

no shit, its a car forum, were car enthusiasts, every decision we make is a poor financial one !

[bad88u]

no shit, its a car forum, were car enthusiasts, every decision we make is a poor financial one !

jarhead your in the wrong forum my friend. if car mods dont interest you. get out of here and go play with your money on some bullshit investment forum. we dont play politics here.

could be worse we all could be into golf.:)

[planetdavo]

Sorry to be the one to tell you what everyone else is really thinking.


I wasn't thinking that...:confused:

Now here's a better site for you...
http://www.afr.com/home/
It's a perfect site for people that have lost a fortune on the sharemarket, rather than car modifications....:lmao:

PS: I have had both worthwhile investments and nice cars in my life, plus fully own my house, yet I spent heaps on cars when I was young. He is "only" 19. We are all allowed to have "fun" you know, it just doesn't have to be the way you like it. :)

[vzss05]

As for Roonstain, I didn't buy a new car until I was 25. Instead I bought appreciating assets at your age. It was more luck than good management but if you are to take anything positive away from this public forum it would be to stop spending money on a depreciating asset and invest in something that will earn you money.

I don't know your financial position by any means but unless you have some kind of asset that is going to increase in value, the decision to buy a new car and then spend thousands of $$ turning it into a OSV, has probably been a bad choice.

The majority of people that I work with are 17-25yo so I know the attraction of looking flashy in front of your peers. It's your money and you earnt it so you can choose to spend it any way you want. I'm only pointing out some pitfalls that face young people.

Finally, there are lots of people on here congratulating you on your car and your choices. The fact is it was a very bad financial decision - cars like yours are very difficult to sell and will depreciate quicker than any other Omega. If these guys were genuine friends they would be advising anyone in your position against making the same mistakes you made. Instead to boost you ego and make you feel better they say well done/good job etc, whilst politely qualifying their comments with 'while I personally wouldn't do it...etc'. You see at some point, even Michael Jackson had people telling him the plastic surgery looked good. His 'friends' would have said it's you body and your money you can do with it what you like. To continue the analogy, I can see the merit in a bit of a nip and tuck to peronaise your ride but a full body kit will always turn into a freak show.

Sorry to be the one to tell you what everyone else is really thinking.

Now, back to the diatribe............


You are not related to Glen 48 by any chance :stick:

[BadMac]

Guys, I really appreciate the 'sticks and stones' stuff. My feelings are hurt beyond repair.:bawl:

As for the topic at hand, a GTS bodykit on an SS is a terrible idea. But as I have mentioned on here numerously it's your choice and your car - do with it what you want. I voiced my opinion and because it doesn't agree with some it seems I am the anti-christ. Get a life people!

As for Roonstain, I didn't buy a new car until I was 25. Instead I bought appreciating assets at your age. It was more luck than good management but if you are to take anything positive away from this public forum it would be to stop spending money on a depreciating asset and invest in something that will earn you money.

I don't know your financial position by any means but unless you have some kind of asset that is going to increase in value, the decision to buy a new car and then spend thousands of $$ turning it into a OSV, has probably been a bad choice.

The majority of people that I work with are 17-25yo so I know the attraction of looking flashy in front of your peers. It's your money and you earnt it so you can choose to spend it any way you want. I'm only pointing out some pitfalls that face young people.

Finally, there are lots of people on here congratulating you on your car and your choices. The fact is it was a very bad financial decision - cars like yours are very difficult to sell and will depreciate quicker than any other Omega. If these guys were genuine friends they would be advising anyone in your position against making the same mistakes you made. Instead to boost you ego and make you feel better they say well done/good job etc, whilst politely qualifying their comments with 'while I personally wouldn't do it...etc'. You see at some point, even Michael Jackson had people telling him the plastic surgery looked good. His 'friends' would have said it's you body and your money you can do with it what you like. To continue the analogy, I can see the merit in a bit of a nip and tuck to peronaise your ride but a full body kit will always turn into a freak show.

Sorry to be the one to tell you what everyone else is really thinking.

Now, back to the diatribe............

As has been said many times. You are a first class dick head. If you don't like it simply hit the little left hand arrow in the top left corner (hold up both hands and the one that makes and L is your left). You have your opinion and in the pub with a few beers tells somebody who cares. Around here, we may not like everything but we try to comment on the positives. I guess your username says a lot about you, and that item under it seems pretty much on the mark "rarely contributes to the forum".

As for the 2 cars in question. I have an HSV and paid my dues to have the real thing. I think the V6 imitations firstly look very goos, and secondly complement how well HSV did with its design.

As for and SS looking like a HSV, personally I wouldn't ruin and SS, as has been saidf i'd do other things, but i'd not devalue the SSness.

Roonstein, I love what you have done. Ups to you.

[Jarhead]

I wasn't thinking that...:confused:

Now here's a better site for you...
http://www.afr.com/home/
It's a perfect site for people that have lost a fortune on the sharemarket, rather than car modifications....:lmao:

PS: I have had both worthwhile investments and nice cars in my life, plus fully own my house, yet I spent heaps on cars when I was young. He is "only" 19. We are all allowed to have "fun" you know, it just doesn't have to be the way you like it. :)


What's the whether like on Planet Davo? Are you trying to impress me by telling me you own your house and that you have worthwhile investments? I get paid to disect lies and uncover people's 'real motives'. Let me give you a free taste.........

You say, "I wasn't thinking that". In fact you were. You haven't said what you do think therefore an alternative opinion doesn't exist. Sure you could make one up now but we both know the truth.

You quote a URL website relating to investment discussions. You wrongly assume that I am somehow assiciated with the stockmarket and that I have lost money therein. It tells me you either know the website yourself or you have taken the time to research it. Either way you are floundering in a discussion well above your intelligence level.

The fact that you have taken the time to tell us you have worthwhile investments and that you own your home is like telling a small boy you are Superman. The term "fully own my home" is classic overtruth - not a complete lie but not the whole truth either. You used those words to add weight to your opinion - meaning you don't feel your argument is strong enough on it's own. You felt it needed an exert from your resume to make it valid. My guess is that you own your home but there may be, shall we say, a financial interest from a lending institution.

You say, "we are all allowed to have 'fun' you know". This implies you feel 'fun' is a kind of dichotomy. Either you have 'fun' or you invest wisely but not both. You see at your age (I'm guessing you are past your prime -physically at least) you associate 'fun' with being young and reckless. Our friend Roonstain is certainly not a pioneer in wasting money. You admire his choice to have 'fun' but inwardly believe it is at the expense of financial sense. In other words you know its a waste of money but justify it as a young man's choice to have fun.

Anyway I'm here all week, please try the veal........


As has been said many times. You are a first class dick head. If you don't like it simply hit the little left hand arrow in the top left corner (hold up both hands and the one that makes and L is your left). You have your opinion and in the pub with a few beers tells somebody who cares. Around here, we may not like everything but we try to comment on the positives. I guess your username says a lot about you, and that item under it seems pretty much on the mark "rarely contributes to the forum".

As for the 2 cars in question. I have an HSV and paid my dues to have the real thing. I think the V6 imitations firstly look very goos, and secondly complement how well HSV did with its design.

As for and SS looking like a HSV, personally I wouldn't ruin and SS, as has been saidf i'd do other things, but i'd not devalue the SSness.

Roonstein, I love what you have done. Ups to you.



Thanks BadMac! I love it when someone backs up my arguement. Now I could have asked someone to write it verbatim but you managed pretty well yourself.

I must say the Moderators here must be away on Easter Holidays. If I took things a little more personally I would make a few of you eat your words.

On this point, if anyone here would like to meet face to face to 'discuss' any of the comments I have made, feel free to PM me. I am in Brisbane for the weekend and back to sunny coast on Tuesday. If you feel you need to bring 'friends' then that's OK too.

[bad88u]

hey jarhead. pull up. you sound like an old man. if cars a waste of money dont come here and tell people how there wasting there money. its called a hobby. like a sport if i can call it that. if you dont wanna dont it, doesnt mean somebody else has made a wrong choise in life. everyone is differant :flipoff: like i said before if you dont like cars or wasting money (so you say)on cars. PISS OFF thats what we do here. and thats what this forum is about. if houses are your thing. go to a house forum. geez your like a kid. and dickheads like you piss me off


my rant is over.

[1989mitty]

Theres nothing wrong with what mark has done to his omega hes as much as a car nut as anyone else out there , sure its not a hsv but it looks like one , my utes the same , has a hsv front bumper and soon to have a maloo rear bumper ,

so what it looks good, if everyone on here thinks them selves car people , take a step back and look at the work that some guys put in to make there car different , i mean mark spent so much time and money making HIS car how HE likes it ,

People who buy hsv do things to make them look different painting wheels different wheels Bonnets off walkinshaws and they look shit but the point is everyone trys to make there car suit them in which ever way they want to ,