VZ Monaro with 920 Kms [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

pelagonia_ss

15-04-2009, 01:42 PM

*Drools*

Anyone got a spare $62,999?

http://www.discountusedcars.com.au/used-cars/holden/monaro/4173240.aspx

http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/duc/car/dealer/carsales/15226413.jpg?width=555

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http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/duc/car/dealer/carsales/15226407.jpg?width=555

http://liveimages.carsales.com.au/duc/car/dealer/carsales/15226408.jpg?width=555

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Ewok

15-04-2009, 01:46 PM

Looks like it's lived it's life so far being driven to the shops and back. Either that or on a burnout pad :D

Big_Valven

15-04-2009, 01:47 PM

Very nice but I don't think those sorts of cars will be worth anything special for a few years yet. Plus what's with these rare cars coming out for sale during a financial BS where consumer confidence is at a minimum & car sales at massive lows?

VT_Lance

15-04-2009, 01:59 PM

maybe just the dealers personal car and just put it up for shits and giggles

Pickles

15-04-2009, 04:15 PM

Obviously a nice car....but a bit dear IMHO.
I've seen cars with similar ks for around the $55k mark.
Cheers, Pickles.

ebbett21

15-04-2009, 04:22 PM

did the dealer turn the clock back looks way overpriced maybe theres more to the car then we know

Chaotic

15-04-2009, 11:04 PM

possibly a manufacturer demo thats been moved between a couple of dealerships, or just a stock car that got forgotten.

iloveholden

15-04-2009, 11:30 PM

Thats a damn nice car but it is overpriced imho.....the dealer must think its a collector item already and will rise in value in the near future.

pelagonia_ss

16-04-2009, 10:31 AM

If they never bring out another Monaro, he could be right.

Ewok

16-04-2009, 11:17 AM

heard it has a flux-capacitor .......

ti0350

16-04-2009, 12:56 PM

i remember that car being advertised beginning of last year when we were looking at monaros

vy2ttr

16-04-2009, 01:04 PM

Bit pricey I think. My mate just sold his vz gto, with only 230 kms on clock, for $63,000 !

nang3

16-04-2009, 03:11 PM

fark they're dreamin !! wasnt the rrp on about 60k new?
maybe in 20 years it will be worth more but who would buy that as a daily over a new R8 or F6??

Mad4Monaros

16-04-2009, 07:24 PM

Abit steep, they were 60.5k around new. There was afew of carsales awhile ago going cheaper with lower kays!

planetdavo

16-04-2009, 07:26 PM

maybe in 20 years it will be worth more but who would buy that as a daily over a new R8 or F6??
Anyone that has to be seen in the latest model will agree with your thinking.
HOWEVER. A new R8 or an F6 will NEVER be a 2 door Australian muscle car.

AFAR

16-04-2009, 09:05 PM

We'll pretty much ALWAYS have utes..

BLACK 346

16-04-2009, 09:12 PM

Anyone that has to be seen in the latest model will agree with your thinking.
HOWEVER. A new R8 or an F6 will NEVER be a 2 door Australian muscle car.

Yep, we finally agree Davo, your dead right I reckon.
Why would you want a VE R8 or F6 when you could
have that the best looking car ever made in australia :)
Edit: No Dave, I am not pulling the piss, I do love the VZ Monaro.

fatbob

16-04-2009, 10:32 PM

Uh, I agree with planetdavo. No seriously - I do.

SV346

16-04-2009, 11:03 PM

saaaame :)

Mad4Monaros

16-04-2009, 11:09 PM

100% agree with Davo!

VT_Lance

16-04-2009, 11:38 PM

agreed lol thats why my next and last car will be a monaro even if i need to convert to nuclear in the future to keep driving when fuel no longer around lol

dyno junkie

17-04-2009, 12:03 AM

Anyone that has to be seen in the latest model will agree with your thinking.
HOWEVER. A new R8 or an F6 will NEVER be a 2 door Australian muscle car.

planetdavo you are very very correct.

Our CV8 is from the first production run in 2001. It is now in storage.
Our every day drive cars are a modded Turbo Territory Ghia and soon to be modded G6ET. The Monaro is now only used on the occasional weekend or club run.

nang3

17-04-2009, 03:32 PM

Anyone that has to be seen in the latest model will agree with your thinking.
HOWEVER. A new R8 or an F6 will NEVER be a 2 door Australian muscle car.

Anyone who wants something newer, faster and cheaper will go for the R8 or F6 instead..

but yes it would be a good buy for a collector or someone who is specifically chasing a monaro and wants a low km example.. i guess like everything its only worth what someone is willing to pay really..

duke5700

17-04-2009, 03:38 PM

Dealer car... owner just kept the K's under a 1k and used tech 2 to reset the odo :peek:

planetdavo

17-04-2009, 07:27 PM

Dealer car... owner just kept the K's under a 1k and used tech 2 to reset the odo :peek:

It's 100km for that...:p

Excellent

17-04-2009, 08:57 PM

It's 100km for that...:p

In an ad for another car it says the car has traveled less km than displayed but dealer can't reduce the k's below 150km. How is that credible?:confused:

Funk

17-04-2009, 09:24 PM

the car is for sale at sunco holden there is also a blue monaro siting behind it on the showroom not a cv8z just a cv8 you can see it in the second photo dealer has just kept them they are worth what some one is willing to pay for them if he is happy to hold on to them till some one really wants them good luck to him

planetdavo

18-04-2009, 08:07 AM

In an ad for another car it says the car has traveled less km than displayed but dealer can't reduce the k's below 150km. How is that credible?
How about you ring them and ask? :confused:

Excellent

21-04-2009, 11:24 PM

Oldmate83

21-04-2009, 11:45 PM

After carefully considering a used Monaro, I've decided it's not worth the money given the more advance VE is around the same coin or even cheaper.

I'm beginning to think that about half the Monaros advertised on carsales, the owners aren't serious about selling them. Anything over $40,000 for a used 4 year old VZ Monaro is a bit rich. That's VE SS/V money.

there are plenty of good ones going around under $40,000, in fact there is a good black cv8 on carsales for $25,000.

qwigybo

22-04-2009, 01:17 AM

i found vy/z gto's under $35k why would you pay it for a monaro

Pickles

22-04-2009, 08:54 AM

i found vy/z gto's under $35k why would you pay it for a monaro
Where have you seen a reasonable VZ GTO "for under $35k"?
Obviously I'm interested, because we own one.....don't really care about resale values because we love ours, & we ain't selling it. However, I do keep an eye on what's happening, so whilst I know that GTO values have dropped (what hasn't!), I've never seen a VZ GTO for $35k.
Cheers, Pickles.

the big fist

22-04-2009, 10:00 AM

Pickles

22-04-2009, 11:03 AM

Try $10K higher.
I've just bought myself a 2005 VZ GTO with sunroof, 6.0L manual and paid $46500 for it. That was definetly at the lower end of the price range for vz gto's as i could not justify an extra $10-20K for a lower km car which is still...a 4 year old car no matter how you look at it.
I was watching cars and prices for at least a good 3-4 months.

Cheers,

Peter

That's more like it.....I've never seen a "VZ" GTO "for under $35K!"
Anyway, enjoy your GTO, you've bought a very very good car....can't beat 6 litres in a Coupe!
Cheers, Pickles.

planetdavo

22-04-2009, 06:04 PM

i found vy/z gto's under $35k why would you pay it for a monaro
VY GTO's yes, but to many people, the smoother look of the "standard" Monaro is preferred, hence why I believe the CV8 prices are much closer to the GTO prices, compared to the much bigger difference when new.

HSV590

22-04-2009, 10:19 PM

After carefully considering a used Monaro, I've decided it's not worth the money given the more advance VE is around the same coin or even cheaper.

I'm beginning to think that about half the Monaros advertised on carsales, the owners aren't serious about selling them. Anything over $40,000 for a used 4 year old VZ Monaro is a bit rich. That's VE SS/V money.

The thing that will be interesting is whether in 4 years time the used 4 yr old VE SS/V for $40k is still worth the same money as what the then 8 yr old VZ Monaro is worth...I'll bet the 8 yr old Monaro is worth more than the dime a dozen 4 yr old VE SS/V!!!....and still not look as good as the Monaro..hehe
Cheers
Mark

Excellent

23-04-2009, 08:47 AM

The thing that will be interesting is whether in 4 years time the used 4 yr old VE SS/V for $40k is still worth the same money as what the then 8 yr old VZ Monaro is worth...I'll bet the 8 yr old Monaro is worth more than the dime a dozen 4 yr old VE SS/V!!!....and still not look as good as the Monaro..hehe
Cheers
Mark

You don't have to look in 4 years time. Some used Monaros are more expensive than current VE HSVs. I don't think there's any comparison to what I'd rather drive no matter how much the Monaro price skyrockets. I'd also rather drive a Monaro than a GTHO but to own is a different story.

I'm sure a lot of owners get the same kick from firing up the engines for the first time each morning but what price do you put on that feeling?

Oldmate83

23-04-2009, 09:18 AM

Well people may be asking good money for second hand monaros, but would anyone really be prepared to pay more for one that a VE HSV?

Pickles

23-04-2009, 09:19 AM

You don't have to look in 4 years time. Some used Monaros are more expensive than current VE HSVs. I don't think there's any comparison to what I'd rather drive no matter how much the Monaro price skyrockets. I'd also rather drive a Monaro than a GTHO but to own is a different story.

I'm sure a lot of owners get the same kick from firing up the engines for the first time each morning but what price do you put on that feeling?
"firing up the engine for the first time in the morning"....yes, I know what you mean.....but just sitting in the car does it for me....the interior on any CV8 or GTO is just magic, particularly when you look from the driver'seat, to the rear of the interior, & you know you're in a coupe....it has a special "aura", I think.
Some may feel that I've "got my hand on it", but , I think the interior of our GTO is a pretty good place to be.
Cheers, Pickles.

the big fist

23-04-2009, 02:48 PM

Well people may be asking good money for second hand monaros, but would anyone really be prepared to pay more for one that a VE HSV?

Just to comment on this as I was in this exact position. Was looking at spending $60-$65K on a extremely low km vz signature gto but couldnt not justify this when for the same money I could get an ls3 manual clubby new.
I think that a lot of people would do the same and take the newer car. I chose to spend less and put up with some minor issues and higher km's. I do not like the ve shape or the interior. I think they are becomming more and more plastic and mass produced. I still found my old VS Manta to be the most comfortable car I've owned.

People can ask whatever they want for a car but in reality they will not get that price. With regards to the monaro's / gto's holding price, I do think they will hold the price better than a sedan BUT as soon as there is any word on a new 2 door then the prices are going to drop. In my opinion.

fatbob

23-04-2009, 04:06 PM

Its collectability and what a driver wants. I think most munro owners are real happy with their car today and prolly in the future. Which means less for sale as time goes on, or that simply an owner will say "ok. i'll sell, but only for x $".

Supply and demand and what the market will pay.

A new coupe may be so much better, faster, handling and better looking inside and out that the munro drops radically in price - I doubt that greatly though, and also think, even if that was the case, its likely the monaro will hold value for other "sentimental" reasons.

I have owned M3 and other "nice" cars before - and went to a munro - the M3 nicer for sure, handled better, probably faster - definately faster round a bend - braked a million times better - better finish etc... Better car basically - but it wasn't a monaro - to me. Most folks would prolly have the M3 any day - but not me - I wanted a munro. And there are probably quite a few folks like me out there. Hence prices ... well most monaro owners probably don't look to sell, so probably don't really care a great deal. However - I can see why prices hold steadier than other model cars.

And seriously - I didn't buy my monaro for investment or to sell at some time when a new model came out - I didn't expect a new model - and simply wanted the monaro thanks.

Oldmate83

23-04-2009, 04:51 PM

myss427

23-04-2009, 04:55 PM

I think it comes down to your either a 2 door man or a 4 door man. When I bought my Monaro I could have had a HSV for the same money but just wanted a Monaro. Still waiting for a new coupe to come, have a little hope!

Pickles

23-04-2009, 05:44 PM

Well, we do like Coupes, there's only the two of us, so even with the hopelessly small VZ "Boot", we can manage. So, yes, there probably are "2 door", or "4 door" owners.
Future values......?......Don't care....we're keeping it....as long as my super allows me to do so anyway!
New Coupe?....Don't think so.....I don't think there'll ever be one....didn't think there'd ever be one, even before the "G.F.C." .....and it's even less likely now.
So, in view of relatively small numbers of CV8s & their derivatives, GTOs, GTSs etc, I would expect their value to hold up better than a 4 door of the same vintage, especially for a reasonably low k original car,...but as far as obtaining collectable status/value etc, well I can't see that happening for many many years, if ever.
Cheers, Pickles.

fatbob

23-04-2009, 07:50 PM

kingky07

23-04-2009, 09:00 PM

Damb they're dreaming best keeping it may be worth it in 20 years!

Excellent

23-04-2009, 09:03 PM

yeah I do own a monaro - but quite honestly, I believe I'm realistic about value in marketplace. You know - if monaros losing value quicker than other models, I'd be saying "oh well, I still like mine" - however I don't think thats the case.

However all that said - oh yeah, I'm one eyed about munros - make no mistake about it - I cudn't take offence by the way, I'd simply agree with you that I'm totally one-eyed about munros.

I wouldn't say Monaro values are high because of their tight availability. If you look at any of the classifieds, there are Monaro's selling for low 20s and those selling for 'tell him he's dreaming' values and also those who don't really want to sell but are testing the water by just occupying advertising space. I know this because those same cars are not being sold, so the demand can't be there.

All one could draw from the classifieds is Monaro values are all over the shop due to owner's seeking to exploit buyers looking for an affordable two door. As I said, I won't play the inflated hyperbole game even if the odd buyer (not many out there) is willing to.

planetdavo

23-04-2009, 09:50 PM

Fatbob,

not being rude, but when I saw the first couple of paragraphs of your post, I thought, this guy must own a Monaro, then u confirmed it.

Is there anybody here that dosn't own a Monaro that could honestly say "I would pay more for a CV8 than a VZ or VE HSV?"
Have you ever owned a recent Monaro, or are you just commenting as a non-Monaro owner, in exactly the same way you bundle all modern Monaro buyers as one sided???
It's pretty simple.
If you must be seen in the very latest, and don't care if it's got 4 doors, you'll buy the latest model.
If you want a 2 door modern muscle car, and don't need the latest toy on the block, the Monaro is quite likely to leave a bigger smile on the face...:)

Carby650

23-04-2009, 10:18 PM

I know of a similar Km VZ CV8z whch will be up for sale at a Holden dealer in Perth soon.
Its in that gold colour that most of came out in.

cheers
Carby650

Oldmate83

23-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Have you ever owned a recent Monaro, or are you just commenting as a non-Monaro owner, in exactly the same way you bundle all modern Monaro buyers as one sided???
It's pretty simple.
If you must be seen in the very latest, and don't care if it's got 4 doors, you'll buy the latest model.
If you want a 2 door modern muscle car, and don't need the latest toy on the block, the Monaro is quite likely to leave a bigger smile on the face...:)

Uh what?:confused:

U said the same thing a while ago. My question was (and it's a genuine one), is there anyone out there who doesn't currently own a Monaro that would be prepared to pay more for one than a VZ or VE HSV?

michaels1v8

23-04-2009, 11:13 PM

Uh what?:confused:

U said the same thing a while ago. My question was (and it's a genuine one), is there anyone out there who doesn't currently own a Monaro that would be prepared to pay more for one than a VZ or VE HSV?

If I had the coin? Yeah I would buy a monaro of similar kms and condition to a vz hsv, over the hsv anyday.

Id go one over a VE SS too.

VE HSV is a big stretch though. Would have to be a VZ Monaro with a crate motor dropped in and with the original motor sold with it:rofl:

Mad4Monaros

24-04-2009, 12:11 AM

I've probably said it afew times on this forum already but I couldn't give a rats arse what my car is going to be worth in 5- 10 years. I just love enjoying my car and having such a nice car.

smokey777

24-04-2009, 01:35 AM

Anyone that has to be seen in the latest model will agree with your thinking.
HOWEVER. A new R8 or an F6 will NEVER be a 2 door Australian muscle car.

totally agree dave... but id ditch the bonnet... and put a VY SS frontend on :1peek:

ti0350

24-04-2009, 02:03 AM

Uh what?:confused:

U said the same thing a while ago. My question was (and it's a genuine one), is there anyone out there who doesn't currently own a Monaro that would be prepared to pay more for one than a VZ or VE HSV?

I've been looking at the newer monaro's for ages and if I didnt have younger kids I would have bought one instead of the SS we have..
Would I pay a lot of money for one no I wouldn't.. Having a look around tonight there seems to be a lot of good value buys around with resonably low km's..
But as I discovered tonight there quite a few old monaro's for sale for a lot less then what people are asking for the newer model ones so I'd rather spend half the money and buy a HQ or HJ monaro..

planetdavo

25-04-2009, 08:14 AM

Uh what?:confused:

U said the same thing a while ago. My question was (and it's a genuine one), is there anyone out there who doesn't currently own a Monaro that would be prepared to pay more for one than a VZ or VE HSV?
Well, since you have a little difficulty comprehending what I've been saying...:confused:
You appear to have a distinct lack of people agreeing with you for some strange reason...:lmao:
I drive various VE's every week. They do nothing for me that the Monaro can't do, and that's why the Monaro is a little bit special. It's not the newest thing on the block, but with VE's a dime a dozen these days the VE isn't that particularly special, and they certainly aren't a low roofed 2 door V8 Holden my friend...:)

MANARO

25-04-2009, 12:11 PM

This question came up recently when i went to re insure my monaro and shannons asked me what it would be worth now, good question as i have spent allot of money on the car so to me it is worth allot of money but then she asked what i would ask if i were to sell it and i said i wouldn't want to sell it for under 70g but i know i would struggle to sell it for that as it is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it, and being a highly modified 2002 monaro with only 15000km on the clock the market would be extremely limited. But i suppose insurance is a little bit different to selling it.