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Hamico
05-05-2009, 08:18 PM
Looks like Holden's Korean move, may prove a smart move after all.....
Buyers flock to value brands as car sales continue to plunge

http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=62639&vf=12

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Richard Blackburn, drive.com.au, May 5, 2009

Car sales dipped by almost a quarter in April, but Korean brands have bucked the trend as buyers hunt for bargains.
By RICHARD BLACKBURN.

Australian car buyers are turning to cheaper brands as the recession bites, with Korean makers Hyundai and Kia reporting increased sales in April, while the rest of the market slumped by almost a quarter.

April sales were down 23.9 per cent on the same month last year, with market leader Toyota suffering a dramatic 37 per cent drop in sales.

But Hyundai sales are up by 12 per cent in the first four months of the year, while Kia recorded a modest sales increase in April.

Hyundai, which became synonymous with cheap motoring in the 1990s, has traditionally thrived when economic confidence is down, as buyers look to trim their expenses.

The brand enjoyed a sales boom in the wake of the 1997 Asian economic crisis and in July 1998, the Excel toppled the Holden Commodore as the country’s top-selling car.

Hyundai head of sales and marketing, Kevin McCann, says there has been a definite shift away from Japanese brands to Koreans, both with private buyers and fleets.

“In economic down times people tend to drift to value and that has coincided with us bringing out new models,” he said.

“We are seeing people trade in vehicles from the leading Japanese brands. About half our trade-ins are other brands, mostly Japanese.”

Social commentator David Chalke said the migration to value-for-money brands is to be expected in a recession.

“The first thing people do in a time like this is defer buying anything they don’t have to, but if they have to make a purchase decision, they look at relative perceived value, rather than any aspirational element,” he said.

“There’s no more ‘Oh my god it has to be European or German’,” he said.

“It’s called conspicuous de-consumption; deliberately and consciously buying down scale to tell everyone you are responding to the current economic pressure,” he said.

Toyota was suffering from being caught in the middle ground, because recessions tended to polarise buyers.

“Toyota is the classic ‘middle ground’ brand. It’s neither the cheapest, nor the sportiest or most prestigious and that’s a dangerous place to be at a time like this,” he said.

Of most concern to Toyota is the performance of its locally-built sedans, the Camry and Aurion. Sales of both cars were roughly half what they were last year, placing pressure on the company’s Altona Plant in Victoria, which is one of eight plants around the globe that produce the Camry.

In contrast, the other locally-made sedans, the Holden Commodore and Ford Falcon are outperforming the rest of the market. Falcon sales were up by close to 20 per cent, while Commodore sales slipped by less than 5 per cent, allowing it to retain its crown as the best selling car in the country.

The locally-built Territory off-roader, however, continues to struggle, with sales down by more than 40 per cent in the first four months of the year.

Overall, Holden sales were down by 23 per cent and Ford’s by 17 per cent. Other brands fared much worse. Mitsubishi sales were down 37 per cent and Honda down 30 per cent, while Mazda and Nissan both dropped by 24 per cent.

The results will put increasing pressure on the Federal Government to introduce some form of retail stimulus for the car industry.

Overseas, some Governments have introduced “scrappage” schemes, which offer financial incentives to owners of old cars to scrap their car for a newer model.

A scrappage scheme has met with spectacular success in Germany and the British Government has recently followed suit.

To date, the Australian Government has focused on business sales, offering a 30 per cent tax rebate to small businesses which buy a new company car before the end of the financial year.

Car makers have been advertising the rebate on television in an effort to pull forward business purchases, but the legislation is yet to pass through Parliament. Dealers claim buyers are holding off until the rebate is confirmed, which is unlikely to happen before the middle of June, just two weeks before the scheme is due to end.

The chief executive of the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries, Andrew McKellar said yesterday there was a case for the tax rebate period to be extended past the June deadline.

He said some form of scrappage scheme or similar retail incentive was “not without its merits”, but said the rebate had to be given time to work.

“The bottom line is that if people are concerned about their employment prospects, no matter what sort of incentive you put in place, they are not going to buy a new car,” he said.


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Martin_D
05-05-2009, 08:19 PM
This all looks good for the Daewoo Lacetti / Holden Cruze then :)

kpop
05-05-2009, 08:26 PM
hyndais are getting better nowdays

but no matter how broke i could be, i would never ever ever buy one of those chinese cars. (youtube their crash tests) :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

Hamico
05-05-2009, 08:38 PM
hyndais are getting better nowdays

but no matter how broke i could be, i would never ever ever buy one of those chinese cars. (youtube their crash tests) :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

Agreed, Chinese cars have a long way to go, at the moment they are just shiite.

However, Korean cars rival Japanese cars for quality, the Hyundai Grandeur large car just took out Car of the Year in America, and the Hyundai i30 is Australia's current best small/medium Car of the Year.

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SV346
05-05-2009, 09:06 PM
Lets see how korean and chinese cars hold up in high speed accidents, i for sure would suspect imminent death. In desperate times people are just cheap, thats all it is.

planetdavo
05-05-2009, 09:17 PM
You can get 90% of the car for 75% of the money.
As most people just want reliable transport that's not overly expensive to run, these models satisfy the market's needs at the moment.

Hamico
05-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Lets see how korean and chinese cars hold up in high speed accidents, i for sure would suspect imminent death.

In a high speed accident,

I would suspect it no matter what you are driving..... :rolleyes:

Road Warrior
05-05-2009, 10:33 PM
hyndais are getting better nowdays

but no matter how broke i could be, i would never ever ever buy one of those chinese cars. (youtube their crash tests) :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:

Yep, some of them are truly horrifying. The 'Landwind' one (basically a back engineered Isuzu Frontera) is one that sticks in my mind.

Personally I don't think they should be allowed into the country.

VW Golf R32
05-05-2009, 11:20 PM
There is no value in Korean brands - they only sell because they are cheap.

thermos
06-05-2009, 12:56 AM
There is no value in Korean brands - they only sell because they are cheap.

Does that mean that German brands are good value because they are expensive?

planetdavo
06-05-2009, 06:38 AM
There is no value in Korean brands - they only sell because they are cheap.
My brother and his partner a Viva wagon a year ago for $18K, as they have a 2 year old with another on the way, so need space for a pram and various other items. For this purpose, the Viva is perfect. Good smallish size, economical, nothing at all has gone wrong with it, and she thinks it's actually a nicer car than the Peugeot she had before it!
:)

Brendan
06-05-2009, 08:13 AM
The i30 seems like a good car - 5 star ANCAP if you option side/curtain airbags.

I looked at the new i10 and i20 at the motor show which are supposed to arrive later this year - they look good for a Hyundai.

People are looking for safe, economic, cheap motoring these days.

pagey
06-05-2009, 08:45 AM
I am still holding out for one of these beauties...

YouTube - Chinese Car, Truck Crash Testing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D827IxEJVS4)

THe I30 looks pretty damn impressive to me.. both as a value for money runabout with some decent poke.. and saftey wise

YouTube - Hyundai i30 EuroNCAP crash test (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3UtuIyo-YY)YouTube - Hyundai i30 (2008) Crash Test - Frontal, side and pole. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUCevwKMc4k)

gmeup
06-05-2009, 01:00 PM
VFACTS for April: Hyundai jumps, Mitsubishi falls
words - Stephen Ottley
Sales slump continues but there are bright spots for some

Hyundai was the big winner in April, but it headed a very short list of car companies that enjoyed sales growth during the month. The South Korean brand moved from sixth to fifth in the overall sales chart with growth of 12.2 per cent year-to-date.

But Hyundai's gain came at the expense of Mitsubishi, the three-diamonds brand dropping from fifth to seventh as sales plummeted 37.2 per cent for the month. Despite dropping 24.5 per cent over the previous April, Nissan was able to hold onto sixth place.

Toyota continues to lead the sales chart despite tracking 29.3 per cent down year-to-date and dropping 37.5 per cent over April 2008. Holden held onto second spot ahead of Ford and Mazda.

Despite at least one media outlet predicting doom for Toyota's local manufacturing operation, following the release of the VFACTS figures for April -- the locally-built Camry and Aurion models between them selling just 1987 units -- the company itself contends that sales should improve from next month.

"The year-on-year comparison for Toyota is misleading because our sales figures in the same period last year were artificially high," says David Buttner, Toyota's senior executive director sales and marketing.

"We expect a pick-up in sales for May and June, followed by a market that will be stronger in the second half of the year than in the first six months."

All up in April, 63,965 new vehicles were sold, representing a loss of 20,096 units over last April, but the Easter break meant there were two less selling days in 2009 compared with the same month in 2008.

Comparing April to March 2009 showed a drop of 15.4 per cent (11,685 vehicles), but adjustment for seasonal changes means April was up 1.7 per cent on the previous month.

Although the market overall is down 20.3 per cent over the same period last year, the Federal Chamber of Automotive Industries (FCAI) remains confident that the market will soon steady.

"While the figures confirm that market conditions remain soft, the extent of the fall has been compounded by the timing of the Easter holidays," says FCAI Chief Executive Andrew McKellar.

"After adjusting for seasonal factors, sales in April appear to be broadly consistent with results of recent months and we remain hopeful that conditions will soon stabilise.

With the market remaining consistent, albeit down, McKellar believes that consumer interest is being increased because the car companies are making necessary adjustments. Discounting offers and Federal Government tax breaks on new cars are playing an important role, according to the FCAI boss.

"There are signs of increased buyer interest in and awareness of the incentive programme, which certainly underpins the need for speedy passage of the legislation," McKellar says.

The only brands other than Hyundai to enjoy sales growth were Alfa Romeo, Audi, Dodge, Fiat, Jaguar and Skoda. Hyundai can put a large part of its success down to the continued popularity of the i30 range, which recently added a wagon variant. Sales of the i30 were up 50 per cent on the same month last year.

The top ten sellers for the month were:

Holden Commodore 3177
Toyota HiLux 2632
Mazda3 2503
Toyota Corolla 2385
Ford Falcon 2228
Hyundai i30 1491
Nissan Navara 1451
Toyota Yaris 1395
Hyundai Getz 1307
Subaru Forester 1239

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Published : Tuesday, 5 May 2009

falcom
06-05-2009, 04:09 PM
If you look at most reliability surveys Hyundai is always near the top.

I think that is one reason that people are starting to look more at Hyundai as they are getting sick of all the niggly faults that Australian cars get.

mmciau
06-05-2009, 04:34 PM
Well I am one of the Holden numbers - have a new Omega International with LPG

Mike

kpop
06-05-2009, 05:39 PM
If you look at most reliability surveys Hyundai is always near the top.


its like toyota. when they 1st came out, they were laughed at, and thought of as a poor mans car. now look at them. hyundai just needed time to better themselves. now there is healthy competition in the sub 30k car market.

then just wait till that indian made car comes out, the one that costs only $3000 :smilesandbanana:

SV346
06-05-2009, 07:29 PM
My brother and his partner a Viva wagon a year ago for $18K, as they have a 2 year old with another on the way, so need space for a pram and various other items. For this purpose, the Viva is perfect. Good smallish size, economical, nothing at all has gone wrong with it, and she thinks it's actually a nicer car than the Peugeot she had before it!
:)

Vivas are a complete heap of crap, nfi, peugeots are a nice car that actually handle decently, have a well put together motor and have a gearbox that isnt a sponge. Dont even know how a vivia and any peugeot could be compared there different leagues entirely. Viva la sh.t. :)

VL Executive
06-05-2009, 07:53 PM
It appears people like Hilux's at the moment as well.

planetdavo
07-05-2009, 08:21 PM
Vivas are a complete heap of crap, nfi, peugeots are a nice car that actually handle decently, have a well put together motor and have a gearbox that isnt a sponge. Dont even know how a vivia and any peugeot could be compared there different leagues entirely. Viva la sh.t. :)
Well considering they have had BOTH, and you would have owned, well, either one???
Sniff, sniff, I smell "opinion based" bullsh!t...:goodjob:

Hamico
08-05-2009, 08:28 PM
It appears people like Hilux's at the moment as well.

Again, another over-rated Toyota.

I saw a clapped out smoking piece of crap Hi-lux this morning driving to work and thought how could anybody in their right mind drive something on the road like that.....:rolleyes:

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Ghia351
09-05-2009, 06:05 PM
Again, another over-rated Toyota.

I saw a clapped out smoking piece of crap Hi-lux this morning driving to work and thought how could anybody in their right mind drive something on the road like that.....:rolleyes:

.Actually I would have thought that considering the mines buy them by the truck load they can't be too bad. Only thing is Toyota charges "made in Japan" prices for Thai built product to the general public while better value would be had looking at the Nissan/Mitsubishi offerings for nearly as good product.

toyocharged
09-05-2009, 07:18 PM
Again, another over-rated Toyota.

I saw a clapped out smoking piece of crap Hi-lux this morning driving to work and thought how could anybody in their right mind drive something on the road like that.....:rolleyes:

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Was it a brand new one or one thats 30yrs old Hamico ?? The reason why they are overrated is because they do what their meant to do and will be still be going strong while the others have fallen to bits and when they get traded they are actually worth something.

Mate you really have a sandy vag in regards to Toyota, why the hatred?? just interested ?


Actually I would have thought that considering the mines buy them by the truck load they can't be too bad. Only thing is Toyota charges "made in Japan" prices for Thai built product to the general public while better value would be had looking at the Nissan/Mitsubishi offerings for nearly as good product.

The mines arent buying at the moment though, so Im amazed they are selling well

Toyota definetley has some mark up on them for sure:flipoff: but check out the used price for 3 yr old hilux compared to rodeos, tritons etc The initial purchase price premium is nullified by the resale price when it comes time to sell

Ghia351
09-05-2009, 08:29 PM
Was it a brand new one or one thats 30yrs old Hamico ?? The reason why they are overrated is because they do what their meant to do and will be still be going strong while the others have fallen to bits and when they get traded they are actually worth something.

Mate you really have a sandy vag in regards to Toyota, why the hatred?? just interested ?



The mines arent buying at the moment though, so Im amazed they are selling well

Toyota definetley has some mark up on them for sure:flipoff: but check out the used price for 3 yr old hilux compared to rodeos, tritons etc The initial purchase price premium is nullified by the resale price when it comes time to sellI think I read that Toyota had a big backlog of orders on some models due to supply problems although this was now easing coupled with a drop in buyer demand.