VX GTS w/mods or stock VE GTS?

[Zombee]

Hi All,

Just wondering what peoples opinions are on the following scenario. I'll be looking at purchasing another HSV in the future and am weighing up whether to get another VX GTS and spend some money on the donk (blower or stroker, not too sure) or simply just buy a VE GTS. The thing is that the VE GTS is obviously way more expensive than the VX GTS, but for smaller coin I could get the VX and probably still have change after doing the engine work on the VX.

What do you guys reckon, is it worth getting a cheaper VX GTS and spending some more $ to mod it, or pay the bigger dollars for a stock VE GTS?

Which is better value, a blown or stroked VX GTS or a stock VE GTS?

PS: I wont be selling my STi - that beast is being retired to the track.

Cheers
Zombee:)

[ratabro]

I'll take the blown VX GTS:bow:

[ATTNSEEKR]

stock ve gts.

[HRT 8]

After seeing some very healthy numbers from both stock and bolt on LS3's today at Chevs, you'd be mad not to go the VE GTS.

[CarlFST60L]

VE GTS any day for me.


VX GTS is a great car, but personally, I wouldnt be going for the old chassis over the new for a daily.

[bad88u]

vx gts. hundreds made. ve gts. in the thousands.
i know what id buy. newer doesnt always mean better.:)

[255-LS1]

buy a house

[kpop]

why would you want, if given the option, to take a (very large) step back in technology ???????????

to me this isnt even worth asking

[SSBarney]

I'd go the VE.
A VX with mods will still be a door rattling VX with mods.

[bad88u]

all commodores rattle. and so will the ve in due time.

[bush_basha]

mmmm why not a GTS coupe, awwww yehhh. but that is a hard choice as there both pretty awesome cars doesnt matter if new or old. you could continue to save, drive the sti for a while longer and when the 317 gts gets a little more older pick up a second hand one, then mod it with a blower or turbo straight up, haha.

[iloveholden]

Ls3 GTS any day of the week for me as a daily :)

[ebbett21]

C4B vs LS3 ask yourself which engine is the better

[stompa]

If your leaving the ve totally stock for its life i would go the vx but if your thinking of doing mods to the ve later on i would go the ve

[SV346]

go the ve it has the chassis to handle mods

[Zombee]

Thanks for the feedback.

CamoV8, got the house mate, that's all sorted, got the builder to put in 3 garages, one for the STi, one for the HSV and one for the missus.

I like the idea of maybe waiting for the LS3 VE's to come down in price and pick one up then.

Cheers
Zombee:)

[Pickles]

VY GTS Coupe?...Very limited build....an awesome car.
Cheers, Pickles.

[255-LS1]

Thanks for the feedback.

CamoV8, got the house mate, that's all sorted, got the builder to put in 3 garages, one for the STi, one for the HSV and one for the missus.

I like the idea of maybe waiting for the LS3 VE's to come down in price and pick one up then.

Cheers
Zombee:)

No worries mate, sounds like your sorted. You'll be happy no matter what you buy, but if i was in your position i would buy hmmm yer i still dont know lol. Depends what you want though, a car thats does everything very well but isn't that rare, or something that is a bit dated but has street cred that no one can match, up to you mate but as pickles said a Y GTS coupe is very attractive.

Cheers

[Zombee]

Didn't think of the GTS coupe's, still pricey, but I suppose that shows that they have held there value well. That could well be a goer.

Cheers
Zombee:)

[CALDIR]

Hi

I would go the VX GTS as they were a very special car at the time and very rare. The VE GTS....I see them everyday and they look like Clubsport's BUT if it were a daily driver I would go the VE GTS due to its later model chassis/handling upgrades and probably less driver fatigue.

But if its gonna sit in the garage and collect dust go the VX GTS.

regards,

Richard
HRTSEN

[CarlFST60L]

newer doesnt always mean better.

Sounds like you haven't driven either.

[bad88u]

Sounds like you haven't driven either.

dont need it. dont want it.
same shit differant motor. WOW

[berroca]

i have always had a soft spot for the vx gts, such a tough looking car

but i would still go the ve gts anyday, going to be better in the long run

[kpop]

dont need it. dont want it.
same shit differant motor. WOW

good way of proving your intelligence level to the community! :goodjob:

[redvxr8clubby]

I would think VE GTS - I would think future resale would be with the VE, the newer chassis should be the nicer package to have.

[duke5700]

Well, I have a soft spot for the VX GTS. Its a nice car, in the end my heart tells me VX GTS but the brain says VE is the go.

[hardaz]

have to say the VX clubby is tuff as nuts, but depending on how flexible your wallet is i'd go the VE with later on mods.

[Pickles]

The question is, now that the possibility has been raised, is, "CAN YOU LIVE WITH TWO DOORS"?
IF, you can, then there are further choices...yes VY GTS is a very good one...BUT, another good one, is a VZ GTO....6 litres of LS2 in a Coupe, is a very potent combination. Not that I'm biased!
However, it's your choice, & all I'm saying, is that if you can live with the "exclusive world", of two doors, then there are other possibilities.
All I suggest, is, that you think about it.
The best solution is, go to a dealer, or any private seller.....just sit in, & drive a VY GTS, or a VZ GTO, then drive a VE GTS....and make your decision....it's your dollars.
Cheers, Pickles.

[05DKNG]

Both tuff cars for different reasons, I think the vx GTS looks tuff as but ve technology probably offers more at the end of the day with a $$$$$$$$ with it. goodluck mate.

[Jarhead]

vx gts. hundreds made. ve gts. in the thousands.
i know what id buy. newer doesnt always mean better.:)

True, not always...but in this case newer means much better.

If your finances allow for it I'd get the GTS anyday. It really is a no brainer.

[bad88u]

good way of proving your intelligence level to the community! :goodjob:

thanks for the spell check.:teach: SORRY:bow: wont do it again.

:goodjob:

[VEGTS]

Go the ve. I just happen to have a blown ve gts for sale:fishing::rofl:

[nieo]

i will never own a ve gts. it has really pissed me off alot how they have distroyed the whole thing about the gts. there is nothing special about a ve gts compaired to a ve clubby IMO go back o 02 / 03 the gts vs the clubby the gts had the brakes / wheels / engine / diff / ETC ETC ETC every thing was miles better.

some one said back on the first page about the ve gts's are in the thousands built unlike the vx gts's but then i guess if this car is going to be a daily you wouldnt want to do it to the vx! for a daily go the ve for sure..

it was also said back near the start about gts coupe's ? i have driven a mates ve gts and i would take my gts coupe any day over that thing for handling / power etc... obviously i have done a few small tweaks to my motor side of things but still running stock 80,000km old suspension / stock brakes / wheels / etc also helps a lot considering the gts coupes only weigh in at 1350kg :) and well me and my mate roll in somewhere the gts coupe gets a lot more wow factor than the ve gts ;)

this post is not a dig at people who have ve gts's just more a dig at hsv for ****ing up the gts..

[CarlFST60L]

i will never own a ve gts. it has really pissed me off alot how they have distroyed the whole thing about the gts. there is nothing special about a ve gts compaired to a ve clubby IMO go back o 02 / 03 the gts vs the clubby the gts had the brakes / wheels / engine / diff / ETC ETC ETC every thing was miles better.

some one said back on the first page about the ve gts's are in the thousands built unlike the vx gts's but then i guess if this car is going to be a daily you wouldnt want to do it to the vx! for a daily go the ve for sure..

it was also said back near the start about gts coupe's ? i have driven a mates ve gts and i would take my gts coupe any day over that thing for handling / power etc... obviously i have done a few small tweaks to my motor side of things but still running stock 80,000km old suspension / stock brakes / wheels / etc also helps a lot considering the gts coupes only weigh in at 1350kg :) and well me and my mate roll in somewhere the gts coupe gets a lot more wow factor than the ve gts ;)

this post is not a dig at people who have ve gts's just more a dig at hsv for ****ing up the gts..

Each to there own, some people are happy with their VL's or VT's, others have moved on.

Sure the VX GTS is nice, I do love the look of a VX GTS and would love to have one in the garage or to modify one as a weekend race car. But for a daily driver, there really is no comparison without bias.

The VE GTS is a car that was designed to be used every day, be comfortable, fast, handle track days, lug the family/mates around, not rattle your backbone and eye sockets, tow a boat, drive from either side window anything really, its a great daily...

HSV haven't f#$ked anything, they have made a car that is useful as a daily driver that more than a select few want to own.

For about $5K you can get a VE GTS running low 12's on factory tyres and running around 1:10 at Wakefield park on factory tyres and still perform daily duties as if nothing had happened.

[Bandit]

I agree with Carl on this one.


I use my GTS as a daily driver and it is great for this and also on the weekend as a cruise after I clean it from it daily duties..

But really comfy to drive both options...

SO VE GTS!

[phantom_gts]

I just bought a second hand HSV GTS 08 with 09 upgrade (6.2lt), with an aftermarket xflow exhaust. It's sex on wheels! There is another one for sale in Hoppers Crossing through Carsales that I've looked at with about 6000k's on the click in showroom condition. You're looking at about 63,000 but absolutely worth it. With a package through Walkinshaw to add a cold intake, stainless exhaust and a re-tune on the chip for under 5,000 you'd have a winner.

Sorry- Just saw you are in Perth. Might add a bit extra to the price for delivery!

[SSBarney]

I just bought a second hand HSV GTS 08 with 09 upgrade (6.2lt), with an aftermarket xflow exhaust. It's sex on wheels! There is another one for sale in Hoppers Crossing through Carsales that I've looked at with about 6000k's on the click in showroom condition. You're looking at about 63,000 but absolutely worth it. With a package through Walkinshaw to add a cold intake, stainless exhaust and a re-tune on the chip for under 5,000 you'd have a winner.

Sorry- Just saw you are in Perth. Might add a bit extra to the price for delivery!

I heard you were getting to pick this up on Friday:goodjob:

Dont forget to come past and show your accountant:)

[Zombee]

I probably should have said the GTS wont be a daily driver as I train it to work (work in the city).
So both the GTS and STi will be toys to tinker with :D

[CarlFST60L]

I probably should have said the GTS wont be a daily driver as I train it to work (work in the city).
So both the GTS and STi will be toys to tinker with :D

I would buy neither then. Buy a stock VY/VX SS series II for $20K and go to town on it, spend $50K building motor, suspension, brakes, wheels, interior. If you want something special, make it your own.

If you want a nice car for 'everything', the VE GTS is still the winner imo. They are super fast, my R8 ran 12.4 first time out on factory setup other than power mod's including factory tyres, and ran 1:10 around Wakefield park. I spent more on my VY SS and it only ran low 13's on 19's and 1:14 around wakefield. I wouldnt go back in models unless I had no other choice, or wanted a custom build.

Have you spent much time behind the wheel of a VE GTS? You really need to drive it around a fair bit to appreciate just how far they have come.

[Clubb'N]

vx gts coupe or vy gts coupe
there are chassis kits for these
good suspension gear and everything available
plus, why not keep the stock original motor aside, and plant in a cammed ls3 :)

[Red CV8 R]

i considering the gts coupes only weigh in at 1350kg :)

Really? Considering a stock CV8 Monaro weighs 1640kg that is doing well...

[nieo]

thats a bit odd.. ill have to get a pic of my tag and post it up....

[Zombee]

1646kg for a GTS coupe from redbook.com.au

[KPWISHN]

So how'd you end up going?

[mustanger]

i will never own a ve gts. (HA HA YOU GOT THAT RIGHT :lol:) also helps a lot considering the gts coupes only weigh in at 1350kg :) (GOOD TO SEE YOU KNOW A LOT ABOUT THEM)and well me and my mate roll in somewhere the gts coupe gets a lot more wow factor than the ve gts ;) WOW:goodjob:


It`s quite obvious you have no idea :goodjob:

[Zombee]

So how'd you end up going?

Haven't made up my mind yet! Still up in the air. Some days its the VE GTS, some days an older GTS or even some days a F6.

Things have changed a bit, I drive into work now and so the GTS or whatever it will be, will be a daily driver.

The house is coming along, although way behind schedule. But the 3 garages are up! :yahoo:

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn134/Zombee_photo/house/garage.jpg

and here's the STi thats going into one garage - just gotta fill the other one (the third is for the missus)

http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn134/Zombee_photo/Cars/MY07%20STi/desktop1.jpg

Cheers
Zombee:)

[HSV_CRUZN]

Both cars are great cars but really if its gonna be a toy, why not do it in a car that has more of a unique image. Not taking anthing away from the VE GTS, but I have two living in my street alone and I couldnt tell you the last time I saw a GTS300.

The VE GTS is a great car, but there is very little uniqueness about it nor does it have any real relevant features that cant be matched by a modded GTS 300 as far as a 'toy' car goes.

Yer the VE GTS is a more technologically advanced car, so? If you want a car packed with technology you dont by a commodore. Both cars have their merrits but the older modded VX has more of unique image that a stock factory VE car which has more of a run of the mill family/business demographic than a GTS300.

Really anyway you're a winner and it comes to personal opinion

[chair_recliner]

IMO i think youll have to be on drugs to take a ve gts over a vx gts, all in all its an older car but just like everyone says its something that little bit more special. especially if its blown or stroked = one hell of a daily

[Dav0]

Well i had a look around at the prices of VX GTS's and noticed you could pick one up with about 40000-50000kms on the clock for about $38,000. A new GTS will cost you about $80,000. For the dummies thats a $42,000 difference in price. I myself would go for the VX GTS and spend the extra $40,000 on doing all sorts of things to it. There is no way you could convince me that a stock VE GTS is going to be better than a used VX GTS with $40,000 spent on it. Thats just the way i look at it, and i would rather the ball tearer of a car over an overpriced new car

[CBH Senator]

Plenty of VE GTS's around with a few kms on them to buy pre-loved.
wouldnt be a $40k difference then, and you'd still have a more modern chassis and LS3.

I'd go the VE

[stockergts]

i own both a vx gts and ve gts and the vx is my daily the ve is my wifes i dont like the handling of the ve mind you i have xas bigger sway bars and bushes all the the way through
horses for courses the ve will be better but expect to lose resale on it where the vx wont lose as much you cant really compare a stock ve gts to a modded vx gts either
just my two cents

[ls1dan]

buy a house


HAHA Classic.

[ls1dan]

If you want a daily driven car i don't know why you would go the stroked or blown option in the VX GTS. You will be paying out the ass in fuel and there is also the possibility of problems and insurance. If you want a daily id go the VE. Its not a stand out but would most likely be the most reliable. Plus putting alot of Kms on the VX GTS will derail the value.

Get the VE wait a year of two or till you have cash then put a few simple mods into the VE and you will have a similar power out put.

My two cents.

[Bingo BIlly]

Its a no brainer

A vx gts is a vx gts. Dont expect a dollar more for your mods.

A Ve gts will always be worth more, a series 1 ve is very mice to look at as well.

Gotta be crazy to go vx

[feistl]

Whats with the thread digs? The OP was considering this decision 16 months ago, im sure he's either decided or put the decision on hold.

Anyway, Personally....

For a daily driver, VE.
For a weekend/track car, VX GTS.

Thats just my personal decision... Ive driven a number of VEs and never found myself as excited as when ive been given the opportunity to drive a Monaro, VX-VZ senator or even my mates old school HZ. Regardless of which car is technically better, i think the older cars are unique enough to have some character. The VE has remained basically unchanged for 5 years, far too common for my liking.

Having the best technical parts doesnt always mean a better car. It all comes down to personal taste though

[sv300 - 75]

mate you might want to look at a few more options before you settle on one of those. there are alot of nice cars out there like the F6 if you want power, senator if you want class or even a euro car.

i personally would go for the VX because i hate the ve steering but thats just me.

[ICA747]

Go and buy and second hand VE GTS with a turbo kit on it for 50k, seen a few flying around. Much prefer to drive a new car with power, plus less attention from the cops...Either way you will have a tuff daily :)

[GODSMACK]

Whats with the thread digs? The OP was considering this decision 16 months ago, im sure he's either decided or put the decision on hold.

Anyway, Personally....


Something about stones in glass houses springs to mind..

[feistl]

Something about stones in glass houses springs to mind..

Well i figured since the thread had been dug up and i was posting to point that out, i would also put my 2c in. Im all for searching before posting, but digging up a thread for no real reason is a bit silly. There was a guy the other day who dug up a ~3 year old thread to basically write... "Yeah i agree". Mods deleted it...

[warlobo]

buy a house

They're about to crash imo, wait til July-Sept 2011 and they should fall at least 20%, the GTS wont drop any more than that first year, although 50% ish after 3 is a sad fact :-((

I'd go the VE GTS insurance will be a couple of thousand for the blown vehicle? You could always blow the VE in years to come, much comfier seating position, and they make some great horspower just with OTR, Full exhaust and tune, a cam will get you similar power to the blown VX anyway, blowers make 700 hp with the second size up harrop, a mate has blown up 3 diffs and reckons his blown VE ute is a white knuckle ride :):):)

[warlobo]

Well i had a look around at the prices of VX GTS's and noticed you could pick one up with about 40000-50000kms on the clock for about $38,000. A new GTS will cost you about $80,000. For the dummies thats a $42,000 difference in price. I myself would go for the VX GTS and spend the extra $40,000 on doing all sorts of things to it. There is no way you could convince me that a stock VE GTS is going to be better than a used VX GTS with $40,000 spent on it. Thats just the way i look at it, and i would rather the ball tearer of a car over an overpriced new car

Don't buy new, a forum member offered his VE GTS for sale, GTTS was the rego, 55k and it was twin turbo with massive RWKW, how does that compare to your 8 year old vehicles?

A used VE GTS would only cost you under 50k which is what you would spend blowing the older vehicle. I would much rather the 6.2L than a 5.7L, there is no substitute for cubes... You're getting 317 with full factory warranty, and easy 330 RWKW with a few basic mods including cam.

[A PSYCHO]

VX GTS all they way. They look amazing and you rarely see them on the road at all. I cant remember the last one i saw in the flesh, but ive seen about 4 VE HSVs this week so far.

The LS1 is abit of a hold back, but still nothing to turn your nose up.