V8 Supercars - Symmons Plains

[Carby650]

Well Lets hope we get a better result for the Red Lion this weekend.

Again the usual suspect were quick in practice yesterday with Murph being the exception.

Go Garth Tander !!

cheers
Carby650

[hoon69]

FRI: Practice
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 18 Jim Beam Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon FG 24 20 0:52.3863
2 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 15 14 0:52.4089 0:00.0226
3 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 10 10 0:52.4381 0:00.0518
4 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 19 13 0:52.5201 0:00.1338
5 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Steve Owen Holden Commodore VE 11 11 0:52.5226 0:00.1363
6 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 26 23 0:52.6307 0:00.2444
7 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 12 11 0:52.6626 0:00.2763
8 5 Ford Performance Racing Dean Canto Ford Falcon FG 22 18 0:52.6966 0:00.3103
9 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 24 24 0:52.7527 0:00.3664
10 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 22 12 0:52.7712 0:00.3849
11 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 17 11 0:52.7886 0:00.4023
12 9 SP Tools Racing John McIntyre Ford Falcon FG 26 26 0:52.7914 0:00.4051
13 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 25 18 0:52.9204 0:00.5341
14 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport David Besnard Holden Commodore VE 21 19 0:52.9594 0:00.5731
15 8 Team BOC Andrew Jones Holden Commodore VE 22 12 0:53.0254 0:00.6391
16 10 Team Autobarn Shane Price Holden Commodore VE 21 12 0:53.1358 0:00.7495
17 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 28 28 0:53.1795 0:00.7932
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Jonathon Webb Ford Falcon FG 27 24 0:53.2031 0:00.8168
19 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 22 18 0:53.2192 0:00.8329
20 111 Wilson Security Racing David Wall Ford Falcon FG 21 16 0:53.2708 0:00.8845
21 6 Ford Performance Racing Luke Youlden Ford Falcon FG 20 18 0:53.4129 0:01.0266
22 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Steve Owen Holden Commodore VE 11 10 0:53.4858 0:01.0995
23 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Glenn Seton Holden Commodore VE 23 20 0:53.5400 0:01.1537
24 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 22 17 0:53.6211 0:01.2348
25 333 Wilson Security Racing Leanne Tander Ford Falcon BF 18 17 0:53.7973 0:01.4110
26 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Paul Morris Holden Commodore VE 5 5 0:54.5511 0:02.1648

FRI: Practice
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 26 25 0:51.7953
2 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 28 25 0:52.0135 0:00.2182
3 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 19 19 0:52.0636 0:00.2683
4 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 24 12 0:52.0702 0:00.2749
5 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 24 19 0:52.0766 0:00.2813
6 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 16 16 0:52.0953 0:00.3000
7 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 23 20 0:52.1217 0:00.3264
8 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 21 19 0:52.1635 0:00.3682
9 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 24 22 0:52.2119 0:00.4166
10 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 19 16 0:52.2184 0:00.4231
11 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 23 19 0:52.3414 0:00.5461
12 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 26 20 0:52.3442 0:00.5489
13 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 24 15 0:52.3519 0:00.5566
14 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 25 18 0:52.3593 0:00.5640
15 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 20 19 0:52.3797 0:00.5844
16 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 23 21 0:52.4162 0:00.6209
17 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 24 15 0:52.4527 0:00.6574
18 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 18 4 0:52.4643 0:00.6690
19 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 29 20 0:52.4990 0:00.7037
20 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 24 16 0:52.5054 0:00.7101
21 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 11 7 0:52.5251 0:00.7298
22 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 24 15 0:52.5639 0:00.7686
23 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 7 6 0:52.6985 0:00.9032
24 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 32 11 0:52.7000 0:00.9047
25 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 21 12 0:52.7373 0:00.9420
26 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 22 20 0:52.7573 0:00.9620
27 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 30 29 0:52.9505 0:01.1552
28 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 17 16 0:53.1506 0:01.3553
29 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 24 11 0:53.1721 0:01.3768
30 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 1


SAT: Qualifying
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 21 21 0:51.4661
2 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 25 24 0:51.5289 0:00.0628
3 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 25 24 0:51.5381 0:00.0720
4 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 20 20 0:51.5525 0:00.0864
5 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 20 20 0:51.5554 0:00.0893
6 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 24 24 0:51.5702 0:00.1041
7 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 21 20 0:51.5795 0:00.1134
8 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 28 28 0:51.6319 0:00.1658
9 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 22 20 0:51.6595 0:00.1934
10 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 20 20 0:51.6615 0:00.1954
11 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 21 21 0:51.6648 0:00.1987
12 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 25 23 0:51.6909 0:00.2248
13 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 27 27 0:51.6992 0:00.2331
14 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 17 12 0:51.7076 0:00.2415
15 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 19 16 0:51.7363 0:00.2702
16 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 25 19 0:51.7609 0:00.2948
17 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 25 17 0:51.8326 0:00.3665
18 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 29 27 0:51.8722 0:00.4061
19 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 27 27 0:51.9777 0:00.5116
20 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 28 22 0:51.9952 0:00.5291
21 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 18 14 0:52.1462 0:00.6801
22 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 15 5 0:52.1608 0:00.6947
23 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 19 13 0:52.1620 0:00.6959
24 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 16 12 0:52.2415 0:00.7754
25 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 19 17 0:52.2837 0:00.8176
26 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 15 11 0:52.3269 0:00.8608
27 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 17 13 0:52.3567 0:00.8906
28 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 18 9 0:52.4432 0:00.9771
29 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 15 12 0:52.4716 0:01.0055
30 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 18 18 0:52.5021 0:01.0360


SAT: Top 10
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 1 1 0:51.7043
2 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 1 1 0:51.7574 0:00.0531
3 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 1 1 0:51.8509 0:00.1466
4 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 1 1 0:51.8956 0:00.1913
5 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 1 1 0:51.9352 0:00.2309
6 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 1 1 0:52.0238 0:00.3195
7 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 1 1 0:52.0414 0:00.3371
8 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 1 1 0:52.0890 0:00.3847
9 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 1 1 0:52.2080 0:00.5037
10 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG

Tander takes pole

[steve_t]

Yeah GT! Holden FINALLY gets one! And two :goodjob:

[vzss05]

Yeah GT! Holden FINALLY gets one! And two :goodjob:

+1, After six straight wins from Ford, was great to see the Holden back on top. Good to see GT thank all those at holden who are "having a tough time":goodjob:

[SSKIDD]

Tander was lucky in the end, Ingal had good pace towards the end. Bout time we had a win:goodjob:

[hoon69]

About time a holden won something
pitty the win is overshadowed by their whining ways.

Protest morphs into pitlane unrest


Saturday 30/05/2009 17:45


Despite CAMS Stewards refusing to hear a protest by five Holden teams yesterday (Friday) over the legality of the TeamVodafone splitter mount, the controversy is far from over.

The general feeling along pitlane is that the emphasis has moved from being an eligibility issue to a question of management competence.

Though most were not willing to talk on the record, many in pitlane believe an alleged lack of leadership shown over the issue by the powers-that-be has become a bigger issue than the eligibility of the splitter mount itself.

CAMS refused to hear the protest from the two Walkinshaw Performance teams – Toll Holden Racing Team and Walkinshaw Racing – Garry Rogers Motorsport (GRM), Brad Jones Racing (BJR) and Rod Nash Racing (RNR) on the grounds that the protest was made outside of the specified timeframe.

The teams protested against the flexible mounts fitted to the two TeamVodafone Triple Eight Falcons during the Saturday race at Winton earlier this month.

Some V8 Supercar team engineers have concerns that the flexible splitter mount provides an unfair aerodynamic advantage by allowing the Triple Eight cars to run their splitters closer to the ground, thereby creating less lift.

Walkinshaw Performance lodged an appeal against the Stewards’ decision not to hear the protest, and while the other teams have chosen not to officially lodge appeals due to the large fees involved, BigPond Sport understands that all of them have thrown their support behind the Walkinshaw Performance appeal.

The appeal is scheduled to be heard on June 10 at CAMS’ head office in Melbourne.

No one from Walkinshaw Performance or RNR was prepared to comment when approached by BigPond Sport, but team owners Kim Jones (BJR) and Garry Rogers (GRM) were more forthcoming.

“Really it is more about the process and the way that things were conducted as a group than probably the significance of the part in question,” Jones said.

“The whole matter has been handled very badly. It should be something that is kept behind closed doors because it is internal business not external business.

“The whole thing has been a mess since Winton. Reading between the lines the Stewards are very cautious in dealing with something that could potentially bite somebody… but at the end of the day somebody has to have the balls to sit in judgement of it.”

Jones indicated that BJR used a similar flexible mounting system on the splitters of their Audis when it raced in the Australian Super Touring Championship, and a few years ago Jones even asked if that system could be used in V8 Supercars.

“When we had the (Falcon) AUs and we were tearing the front bumpers off them every time we went out on the circuit, we asked the then (V8 Supercars) Technical Officer if we could use that system and we were told that it wasn’t within the spirit of the rules,” he said.

Jones is now convinced that such a system should not be allowed under the current V8 Supercar regulations.

“My personal opinion – as in Kim Jones the non-qualified mechanic from Albury – is that if you are mounting something using a half-inch bolt, then you drill a half-inch hole,” he said.

“If you do anything other than that then you are talking piss. Whether it is an advantage or a disadvantage, who cares? But it is not in the spirit of the rules.”

Jones stressed that the flexible splitter mounting system BJR used in Super Touring was a cost-cutting exercise, but refused to rule out if such a system could provide an aerodynamic advantage, simply stating “I am not an aerodynamicist”.

Rogers also believes that flexible splitter mounts are outside of the current V8 Supercar regulations.

“There is absolutely no doubt in any reasonable person’s mind that the part in question doesn’t comply (with the rules). There has been too much ‘to-ing and fro-ing’ and avoiding the real issue,” Rogers said.

“I have requested to have that part inspected by a qualified engineering group that has no connection with motorsport other than their mechanical expertise. So far no one has been prepared to do that. I have been constantly at V8 Supercars to do that and it is very disappointing (that it hasn’t).

“It’s all right for justice to be seen to be done, but justice actually has to be done as well as being seen to be done.”

BigPond Sport understands that there was a meeting scheduled post race today (Saturday) between V8 Supercars Australia executives and franchise owners – who collectively own 75 per cent of V8 Supercars Australia – to try to sort out everyone’s concerns.



congrats to Ingall the fastest guy at the end missed out by inches,bring on the next race.


SAT: Race 7
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time
1 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 42 37:13.9662 11 0:51.4952
2 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 42 37:14.0956 6 0:51.5548
3 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 42 37:22.6997 4 0:51.8926
4 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 42 37:24.5697 7 0:51.8481
5 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 42 37:25.1462 7 0:51.7830
6 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 42 37:28.8352 4 0:51.5583
7 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 42 37:30.3638 8 0:51.8037
8 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 42 37:35.3755 39 0:51.7859
9 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 42 37:36.1441 6 0:51.7679
10 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 42 37:36.5017 34 0:51.7208
11 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 42 37:36.8765 6 0:51.4713
12 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 42 37:47.5988 10 0:52.4602
13 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 42 37:48.3191 14 0:52.1758
14 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 42 37:55.1482 11 0:52.6008
15 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 42 37:55.4024 5 0:51.7923
16 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 42 37:55.9547 39 0:51.9153
17 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 42 37:57.8550 3 0:51.9858
18 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 41 37:15.8304 26 0:52.5304
19 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 41 37:19.6002 8 0:52.6032
20 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 41 37:24.2367 38 0:52.9516
21 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 41 37:26.3068 7 0:52.6949
22 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 41 37:27.3955 8 0:52.7304
23 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 41 37:31.3484 10 0:52.7568
24 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 41 37:34.2535 35 0:52.6922
25 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 41 37:43.1063 11 0:52.8032
26 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 41 37:47.1388 29 0:52.4261
27 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 40 37:17.2443 10 0:52.6589
28 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 40 37:35.0611 22 0:53.1661
29 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 40 38:02.3850 5 0:53.0427
30 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 40 38:03.6422 3 0:51.7643

[W427GOT1]

:goodjob:

on ya GT...

[gottacalais]

go get him tomorrow Russell.

[HazzaHSV]

Don't worry we got used to all this when Ford were whining and protesting for year after year about their crappy AU's.

The championship standings are interesting for Holden even with a disastrous start to the season.


About time a holden won something
pitty the win is overshadowed by their whining ways.

[VY18s]

Don't worry we got used to all this when Ford were whining and protesting for year after year about their crappy AU's.

The championship standings are interesting for Holden even with a disastrous start to the season.

Don't forget a couple of years ago when HRT, and Toll HSV dominated the first few rounds, and Ford were whinning. It goes around in cycles.

Anyway I wouldn't really say Holden have got off to a disastrous start. I mean as it stands there are 3 Holden drivers in the top 5.:)

Things could be alot worse.

[NODDY347]

Great to see Holden and the factory team get a win, hopefully they can string todays race together as well although qualifing hasn't quite gone to plan for Tander.

When they set the car up correctly, qualifiy and concentrate on their racing the Holden teams are still right up their in the fight for the championship, rather than worring about why the other teams are doing so well.

Go WD!!

Go Rusty!!

[boyley]

For the record its winning and whining.

I saw the adjustable splitter issue is still brewing


Tander was lucky in the end, Ingal had good pace towards the end. Bout time we had a win:goodjob:

Sorry mate but you dont win touring car rounds by luck.

[iloveholden]

Good job GT...lets see him back it up today/or at least another Holden win :)

[whitels1ss]

I think it is a pity Channel 7 is not putting the racing on untill late this evening! :flipoff::flipoff:

(10.30pm Adelaide)

[hoon69]

Don't worry we got used to all this when Ford were whining and protesting for year after year about their crappy AU's.

The championship standings are interesting for Holden even with a disastrous start to the season.then you had M.A in the BA falcon and the rolls reversed again,isn't it funny how everyone wants to follow TWR but noone wants to take it further,hey look who's in 2nd i wonder why they wanna contest it huh. :confused:


Don't forget a couple of years ago when HRT, and Toll HSV dominated the first few rounds, and Ford were whinning. It goes around in cycles.

Anyway I wouldn't really say Holden have got off to a disastrous start. I mean as it stands there are 3 Holden drivers in the top 5.:)

Things could be alot worse.And wasn't they the same team whinging about the BF aero package as well?

type about circles :confused:

SUN: Qualifying
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Fastest Lap Fastest Lap Time Gap
1 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 16 15 0:51.4898
2 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 17 11 0:51.5662 0:00.0764
3 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 17 11 0:51.5862 0:00.0964
4 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 14 8 0:51.5895 0:00.0997
5 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 17 13 0:51.6190 0:00.1292
6 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 16 12 0:51.6388 0:00.1490
7 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 19 12 0:51.6515 0:00.1617
8 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 19 14 0:51.6597 0:00.1699
9 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 18 14 0:51.6625 0:00.1727
10 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 15 13 0:51.7207 0:00.2309
11 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 16 11 0:51.7229 0:00.2331
12 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 19 13 0:51.7271 0:00.2373
13 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 19 18 0:51.7409 0:00.2511
14 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 18 14 0:51.7573 0:00.2675
15 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 20 14 0:51.8179 0:00.3281
16 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 17 11 0:51.8907 0:00.4009
17 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 15 12 0:51.9163 0:00.4265
18 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 18 12 0:51.9731 0:00.4833
19 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 19 13 0:51.9978 0:00.5080
20 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 17 12 0:52.0411 0:00.5513
21 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 17 16 0:52.0981 0:00.6083
22 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 11 8 0:52.1052 0:00.6154
23 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 18 14 0:52.1309 0:00.6411
24 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 17 13 0:52.1570 0:00.6672
25 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 14 14 0:52.1759 0:00.6861
26 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 16 11 0:52.2187 0:00.7289
27 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 17 17 0:52.2422 0:00.7524
28 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 17 13 0:52.2766 0:00.7868
29 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 17 11 0:52.2767 0:00.7869
30 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 17 11 0:52.6140 0:01.1242



SUN: Race 8
Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Laps Race Time Fastest Lap Fastest Time
1 1 TeamVodafone Jamie Whincup Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:07.8219 21 0:51.9212
2 22 Toll Holden Racing Team Will Davison Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:08.2613 13 0:51.9704
3 111 Wilson Security Racing Fabian Coulthard Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:08.4376 10 0:51.9793
4 5 Ford Performance Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:11.4237 16 0:51.8066
5 33 Garry Rogers Motorsport Lee Holdsworth Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:12.2661 83 0:52.1043
6 39 Supercheap Auto Racing Russell Ingall Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:15.6348 12 0:52.1997
7 25 Fujitsu Racing Jason Bright Ford Falcon BF 84 01:22:16.7048 9 0:51.8642
8 3 Sprint Gas Racing Jason Bargwanna Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:17.3259 12 0:52.2957
9 333 Wilson Security Racing Michael Patrizi Ford Falcon BF 84 01:22:17.8549 82 0:52.0716
10 888 TeamVodafone Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:19.4529 7 0:52.5629
11 4 Irwin Racing Alex Davison Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:19.7938 9 0:52.5046
12 2 Toll Holden Racing Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:20.0008 7 0:52.0879
13 14 WOW Racing Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:20.9457 10 0:52.4490
14 67 Supercheap Auto Racing Tim Slade Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:17.5383 81 0:52.2880
15 6 Ford Performance Racing Steven Richards Ford Falcon FG 84 01:22:21.2293 12 0:52.2923
16 34 Garry Rogers Motorsport Michael Caruso Holden Commodore VE 84 01:22:58.7945 83 0:51.9231
17 10 Team Autobarn Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VE 83 01:22:09.6069 80 0:52.2928
18 17 Jim Beam Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon FG 83 01:22:09.9451 27 0:52.2969
19 55 The Bottle-O Racing Team Tony D'Alberto Holden Commodore VE 83 01:22:11.7798 69 0:52.4602
20 9 SP Tools Racing Shane Van Gisbergen Ford Falcon FG 83 01:22:16.9953 6 0:52.3976
21 11 Dodo Racing Team Jack Perkins Holden Commodore VE 83 01:22:21.4488 6 0:52.0178
22 51 Sprint Gas Racing Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VE 82 01:22:21.8974 71 0:52.5714
23 8 Team BOC Jason Richards Holden Commodore VE 82 01:22:22.1466 19 0:52.3683
24 77 Team Intaracing Marcus Marshall Ford Falcon BF 83 01:22:22.6070 45 0:52.5822
25 12 Triple F Racing Dean Fiore Holden Commodore VE 81 01:22:23.1781 13 0:52.2606
26 24 Bundaberg Red Racing Team David Reynolds Holden Commodore VE 81 01:22:36.3448 10 0:52.5727
27 15 Jack Daniels Racing Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VE 79 01:22:27.3461 7 0:51.9810
DNF 18 Jim Beam Racing James Courtney Ford Falcon FG 59 53:54.0471 10 0:52.3772
DNF 16 Hi-Tec Oils Racing Dale Wood Holden Commodore VE 58 53:32.8394 40 0:52.7100
DNF 7 Jack Daniel's Racing Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VE 43 38:30.9418 6 0:52.3607

[HazzaHSV]

Yep as I said we were well and truly used to it from the 3/4 year drought of the AU. I don't believe I ever said a Holden team/driver had never done it.

Your second point, simple really. TWR have the funds so the minor teams are only supporting in principle. Would have worked the same when Ford were bankrolling protests of parity etc and minor ford teams supporting in principle

I missed today's race. Good effort by Davison, but what happened to Tander?


then you had M.A in the BA falcon and the rolls reversed again,isn't it funny how everyone wants to follow TWR but noone wants to take it further,hey look who's in 2nd i wonder why they wanna contest it huh. :confused:

[Pav023]

The championship standings are interesting for Holden even with a disastrous start to the season.

Yeh it is, 6 fords in the top 10 !!!

Jamie Whincup Falcon 1044
Will Davison Commodore 948
Steve Johnson Falcon 753
Lee Holdsworth Commodore 723
Garth Tander Commodore 720
Craig Lowndes Falcon 669
Rick Kelly Commodore 627
Fabian Coulthard Falcon 606
Shane Van Gisbergen Falcon 600
Mark Winterbottom Falcon 573


GO WIN CUP :goodjob: :smilesandbanana:
Murph hahaha he doesnt say anything when he hits bargs, ambrose, or caruso
Dumb Brell - THE FLAGS ARE BLUE, MOVEOVER - someone needs to go back to v8 school. However it could of been TW strategy securing will 2nd place. That guy will go to any lengths to get his way :vpo:

[iloveholden]

but what happened to Tander?

I didnt see all of the race but he came in early...after the 1st or 2nd lap for fuel but not long after going back out his rear left tyre started to shred causing him to come back into the pits and enter the field two laps down.

Im not sure what happened to him in qualifying though?

[hoon69]

Yep as I said we were well and truly used to it from the 3/4 year drought of the AU. I don't believe I ever said a Holden team/driver had never done it.

Your second point, simple really. TWR have the funds so the minor teams are only supporting in principle. Would have worked the same when Ford were bankrolling protests of parity etc and minor ford teams supporting in principle

I missed today's race. Good effort by Davison, but what happened to Tander?Well i get the whole funding thing,but you had 5 teams making the official protest now you have 1 surely they knew where it would eventually al lead too?

either way it's always the way,No1 team gets the most attention due to the under performing teams,nothings changed really.


I didnt see all of the race but he came in early...after the 1st or 2nd lap for fuel but not long after going back out his rear left tyre started to shred causing him to come back into the pits and enter the field two laps down.

Im not sure what happened to him in qualifying though?he still finished pretty good for a guy who was at one stage 2 laps down,that deflating tyre killed his race really.

Championship standings

1 Jamie Whincup 0 1044
2 Will Davison 0 948
3 Steven Johnson 0 753
4 Garth Tander 0 723
5 Lee Holdsworth 0 723
6 Craig Lowndes 0 675
7 Rick Kelly 0 627
8 Fabian Coulthard 0 606
9 Shane Van Gisbergen 0 600
10 Mark Winterbottom 0 573
11 Russell Ingall 10 572
12 Steven Richards 0 519
13 Cameron McConville 0 510
14 Jason Richards 0 504
15 Alex Davison 0 480
16 Paul Dumbrell 0 462
17 Jason Bright 0 420
18 Michael Caruso 0 417
19 David Reynolds 0 414
20 James Courtney 10 389
21 Greg Murphy 0 387
22 Todd Kelly 0 363
23 Tony D'Alberto 0 336
24 Michael Patrizi 0 324
25 Jason Bargwanna 0 288
26 Jack Perkins 0 282
27 Marcus Marshall 0 273
28 Dale Wood 0 264
29 Dean Fiore 0 231
30 Tim Slade 0 201

[Pickles]

Race 2 was pretty good, I thought. lots of strategy/ unknowns etc with those new tyres, so I reckon there is a bit of "luck" involved, and it is possible to be caught at the wrong place at the wrong time....but, having said that, I reckon Jamie Whincup drove a pretty much faultless race...obviously on top of his game at the moment.
Cheers, Pickles.

[FAVSSS]

Great result for Davo again yesterday.He's been great so far this year.When are the FPR boys going to get a penalty.The stewards were very quiet yesterday despite them using their cars as battering rams with poor old Murph the main victim.It seems the F*** boys can do what they want and as soon as a Holden driver puts a wheel out of place they get a drive thru.

[HazzaHSV]

Yep it sure is. 3 Holdens in the Top 5! :rofl:


Yeh it is, 6 fords in the top 10 !!!

[Pav023]

Yep and Jamie is leading :rofl:

[Souljah]

Yep it sure is. 3 Holdens in the Top 5! :rofl:
So the Tripple 8 splitter isn't that much of an advantage then?

[HazzaHSV]

I doubt anyone knows the answer except 888, hence the protest to clarify it. It isn't the first protest in V8 Supercar and I doubt it will be the last. Whincup and Lowdnes certainly had good pace without it, but it could be a marginal advantage. It reminds me of the rear wing in F1 a couple of seasons back where it was flexible so down the straights it flattened out giving the best aero for top speed, and then under brakes it stood up, giving the best downforce for cornering, the best of both worlds. Is this what the flexible mount is that everyone is talking about? Just a guess.

Personally I think those kind of engineering 'smarts' should be allowed, but then so should have the superior wheelbase and track of the VE been allowed instead of the chopped version to make it identical to the BF/VZ.

So the Tripple 8 splitter isn't that much of an advantage then?

[kayman]

Basically the easiest way to explain it is that there are kind of rubber bushes in between the bumper and the mounting point on the front of the car, making the whole front splitter/bumper assembly more flexible and able to take a larger force without defecting/breaking around the mounting point.

Interestingly Brad Jones used to run these on his Audi's back in the Super Tourers. When the AU's were spitting front splitters almost every round he asked if this system could be used in v8 supercars, to which the reply from the governing body was that it was against the spirit of the sport.

[FAVSSS]

Its only against the spirit of the sport because someone actually uses some engineering smarts and comes up with an idea that advances the car instead of dragging it back to the pack.In my opinion the racing would be much better and more unpredictable if teams were allowed to use different tyres,brakes,suspension and as Hazza said the VE should be the VE not a modified VZ.

[Black_Utester]

Its only against the spirit of the sport because someone actually uses some engineering smarts and comes up with an idea that advances the car instead of dragging it back to the pack.In my opinion the racing would be much better and more unpredictable if teams were allowed to use different tyres,brakes,suspension and as Hazza said the VE should be the VE not a modified VZ.

Ah it would better. But all this has been covered before.

It's all standard across the v8 supercar paddock as it complied with Project Blueprint.

[pagey]

Interesting to see Coulthard cruise through the field late - guess the daily settings and strategy info from 888 engineers was worth the cash :)

[Jonesy40]

Interesting to see Coulthard cruise through the field late - guess the daily settings and strategy info from 888 engineers was worth the cash

Fresh set of sprint tyres also helped.

[pagey]

Fresh set of sprint tyres also helped.

Plenty of people out there with decent tyres - think ou will find that there is more to it than that. Good luck to them, showing up some big name big $$ teams

[Jonesy40]

I am by no means saying that it was only the tyres, only that they helped. Wilson Security Racing have looked pretty good at several stages through out this year. it is good to see different teams up the front that just the usall suspects

[imported_z32 tt]

Ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

[hoon69]

watching dumbrell hold up Coultard like that reminded of Morris dirty tactics,my blood almost boiled,i was hoping Coultard would of just punted him off regardless,but he kept a cool head and came home with the points,so props to them.

Im glad to see a variety of cars performing well at different races etc
i think the sprint tyre has helped and is def a positive for V8SC
get so sick of watching the same people taking the podium round after round.

bring on the 19 - 21 Jun when the V8's go to the SKYCITY Triple Crown Hidden Valley Raceway

[Black_Utester]

One position up for grabs in V8 Supercar land...

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25619582-5012691,00.html

Splittegate at it best.