New? Comp Cam 238/240 112

[deverson1]

Hi all
Recently I bought a comp cam off ebay. The add stated it was brand new.
I have recieved it and want to know a few things if someone can help.
Should it have the locating dowel at the front of the cam.
What do these cams look like new (does any one have a photo).
Thanks Daniel

[BlownLS7]

they normally come with a Pin, dont fret if you dont have a pin , im sure any workshop in Brisbane will give you one,
cheers


paul




Hi all
Recently I bought a comp cam off ebay. The add stated it was brand new.
I have recieved it and want to know a few things if someone can help.
Should it have the locating dowel at the front of the cam.
What do these cams look like new (does any one have a photo).
Thanks Daniel

[zorro]

should be able to pull the pin out of the old cam. New cam shouldnt have evidence of the lifters on the lobes, be in a box and have a protective lube on it.

What side of Brisbane you on when it rocks up can come have a look. Who is putting it in/tuning for you?

[deverson1]

should be able to pull the pin out of the old cam. New cam shouldnt have evidence of the lifters on the lobes, be in a box and have a protective lube on it.

What side of Brisbane you on when it rocks up can come have a look. Who is putting it in/tuning for you?

Hi
I am on south side Goodna. I have the cam now. It appears to have a film on it and the lobs look new but I am unsure as I have not seen a new cam before it looks a little rough.
Thanks Daniel

[zorro]

take a pic if you can?

[deverson1]

Thanks for the replys.
I will take a pic when I get home tonight and post it up.
With this cam being 238/240 @50 112lsa. What would people suggest is needed to install the cam (heads, valve springs, tune, ) On a standard ls1.
Thanks Daniel

[SSV8TE]

Gday mate,
I have just completed the exact cam install on my ute.
Chev's performance have the job.
On the front of the cam do you have the 3 thread holes in the front of the cam or the 1 hole.
If it is the 3 hole then bolts go through the front timing sprocket to it.
If the 3 holes are present you need the appropriate timing sprocket.
As Ash (zorak) said post a pic if you can.
Then more info will be given mate.
Cheers,
Andy.

[Hqcoupe350]

Thanks for the replys.
I will take a pic when I get home tonight and post it up.
With this cam being 238/240 @50 112lsa. What would people suggest is needed to install the cam (heads, valve springs, tune, ) On a standard ls1.
Thanks Daniel

A hefty redline!!

[Wonky]

A hefty redline!!

:lol: So true - big cam for stocker. Hopefully has exhaust and intake to take advantage of it!

[deverson1]

:lol: So true - big cam for stocker. Hopefully has exhaust and intake to take advantage of it!

That is why I am asking what would be needed to get the most out of this cam without stroking the motor I have.
I am already thinking new heads, throttle body , intake manifold, bigger injectors, valve springs.
Anything else people can advise would be great.
Thanks Daniel

[zorro]

Injectors should be ok, I believe there are larger HP/cammed cars running around with them. If it is a concern the SC 6 injectors are an upgrade.

To really take advantage of that cam a set of heads wouldnt go astray.

1 7/8 headers, twin 2.5 or 3" will help the cause. Aswell as a large stall if auto.

As for pushrod sizes cant help you, best get on the phone to a shop. But you will definitely need double springs, std rockers are good gear but for less stress and noise in valvetrain an upgrade to rollers would be good.

[SSV8TE]

Its not the giant of giants cam but its rather big for a stocker if yours is stock.
You will need exhaust upgrade to at least a header and catback, lifters, springs,pushrods, timing chain, hi stall if auto, better clutch if manual, just to name the basics.
Dont take offence but maybe you'd be best to get to a forum sponsor and have a good chat about this cam and its requirements.

Best of luck,
Andy.

[DC347]

HMMM building a motor around a cam??? Shouldn't it be mods first then cam to suit?? Was this cam a bargin you just couldn't pass up?? Need more info on what you already have to give any informed advice.Exhaust yes/no, manual/auto,diff gears stock yes/no, Everyday driver/ Weekender/racer(although with that cam everyday driver is out) sorry for all the questions but you asked for help

Cheers Chris

[deverson1]

Hi Thanks for all the replys.
Cam was a bargin but always wanted something very angry. I have future plans on bigger cubes but until the current motor dies it will be kept standard.
The car is a vx ss manual.
Sandard headers + cats for now(getting 4 int 1 extractors and twin 3" cats soon) dual 3" cat back already fitted.
Standard diff gears looking at 3.9s
It is used as a every day driver for now.
Thanks Daniel

[SSV8TE]

Hi Thanks for all the replys.
Cam was a bargin but always wanted something very angry. I have future plans on bigger cubes but until the current motor dies it will be kept standard.
The car is a vx ss manual.
Sandard headers + cats for now(getting 4 int 1 extractors and twin 3" cats soon) dual 3" cat back already fitted.
Standard diff gears looking at 3.9s
It is used as a every day driver for now.
Thanks Daniel

Mate word of advice here: Absloutely research every avenue before you fit this cam as It is bigger than the norm and if you take it too its limits you will have problems. Its rpm range is 2800 to 7200 and thats huge for an LS1 so in saying this its not something you should dive into without a decent plan of attack.
Cheers,
Andy.

[DC347]

Mate word of advice here: Absloutely research every avenue before you fit this cam as It is bigger than the norm and if you take it too its limits you will have problems. Its rpm range is 2800 to 7200 and thats huge for an LS1 so in saying this its not something you should dive into without a decent plan of attack.
Cheers,
Andy.

t1:goodjob:

[zorro]

cmon andy live a little, my redline is 7100rpms :lol:

Andy (SSV8TE) is on the money, give a couple of shops a call and see what they reccommend to what you are chasing. Alternatively I have found Fraser (speed inc.) to be pretty good with help and info, can shoot him a email.

[deverson1]

Thanks guys for the advise. :goodjob:
I will ask a few of the sponsers on here for advice, options.
This is not something I will be doing straight away so plenty of time to get it sorted.
Thanks Daniel

[ebbett21]

Thanks guys for the advise. :goodjob:
I will ask a few of the sponsers on here for advice, options.
This is not something I will be doing straight away so plenty of time to get it sorted.
Thanks Daniel

lots of cars on here running 220/220 222/224 or 224/228 and if you want a big lumpy 232/234 all proven LS1 cams. For the size it is may cause more grief than its worth

[Rdls1]

Hi all
Recently I bought a comp cam off ebay. The add stated it was brand new.
I have recieved it and want to know a few things if someone can help.
Should it have the locating dowel at the front of the cam.
What do these cams look like new (does any one have a photo).
Thanks Daniel


Wouldnt worry too much Daniel, my mate had the same problem regarding the locating dowel at the front. He ordered his comp cam(222/224) direct from comp cams in the US, didnt go through anyone else but them, & was missing it also when he recieved it, but it is just a matter a using your old dowel, actually come to think of it, his lobes didn't look brand new either, but had another workshop look at it, & it was.. Hope this helps...Cant wait to see the results..:)

[bigdogdazza]

Ahh the musical sounds of an angry spitting and hunting filthy beast of a cam! That brings back some fond memories!:goodjob:

[deverson1]

Wouldnt worry too much Daniel, my mate had the same problem regarding the locating dowel at the front. He ordered his comp cam(222/224) direct from comp cams in the US, didnt go through anyone else but them, & was missing it also when he recieved it, but it is just a matter a using your old dowel, actually come to think of it, his lobes didn't look brand new either, but had another workshop look at it, & it was.. Hope this helps...Cant wait to see the results..:)


Ahh the musical sounds of an angry spitting and hunting filthy beast of a cam! That brings back some fond memories!:goodjob:

Thanks for the Encouragement I think it will be wrth the effort :goodjob:
Nothing better than a angry sounding v8 IMO

[vuss383]

I have a cam sitting here with very similar specs as you have . 240/238 609/ 604 on a wider lobe sep from memory . I've been thinking for the past few weeks that it would be a good candidate for the Mrs's VT . I also have some ported heads here from off my 383 ....... Hmmmm should I ???


Troy

[deverson1]

I have a cam sitting here with very similar specs as you have . 240/238 609/ 604 on a wider lobe sep from memory . I've been thinking for the past few weeks that it would be a good candidate for the Mrs's VT . I also have some ported heads here from off my 383 ....... Hmmmm should I ???


Troy

Yes and yes :bow:

[Mr Monaro]

Depends if the MRS likes the power bug,or theres going to be a saw head.

[Rdls1]

Nothing better than a angry sounding v8 IMO


Have to agree with ya there Daniel..:)

[zeeute]

Maybe you should see if you can swap your cam with someone for something less agressive for a stocker engine? Just a suggestion... Nothing more.

[deverson1]

Hi all here are some pics.

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deverson1/DSC01646.jpg

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deverson1/DSC01645.jpg

http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq15/deverson1/DSC01648.jpg

I mesured the lodes and they are the same as what is on the card.
Thanks Daniel

[Rdls1]

Going off the pics Daniel, the lobes look like there aren't any marks on them, the centre journal looks like machine marks on the surface, nothing to major as theres no load there anyway. Since you measures the lobes against the cam card & it measured ok, looks ok to me....:)

[zorro]

I have a 231/237 in mine with (for the moment) stock heads, paceys & twin 2.5". Been fine for the last year and runs around 380rwhp.

Got something bigger for a mates Clubby around the same size as yours, probably have that in the car in a couple of weeks. We over the Northside so if you want to come over this way have a look and listen let us know.

[deverson1]

I have a 231/237 in mine with (for the moment) stock heads, paceys & twin 2.5". Been fine for the last year and runs around 380rwhp.

Got something bigger for a mates Clubby around the same size as yours, probably have that in the car in a couple of weeks. We over the Northside so if you want to come over this way have a look and listen let us know.

thanks that would be great. I would like to see what is involved.

[leadfoot]

hi all , im looking at camming my std ls1 and some cams around that size have piston to valve issues,,,just a thought,,,

[SSV8TE]

hi all , im looking at camming my std ls1 and some cams around that size have piston to valve issues,,,just a thought,,,

No mate not this one it only has 609"lift at .050
Is all good PTV.
Cheers,
Andy.

[Fast_fj]

I had a similar cam in my vu. You will need valve springs, timing chain and tune. big exhaust. You can get the other parts later.

[SSV8TE]

Sometimes bigger cams arnt the avenue for bigger HP. You need to make sure that you are planning on a package that will eventually work in unison. With a bigger cam you need to upgrade heads , exhaust and sometimes even fuel systems and inlet runner lengths to make the cam really perform to its potential.
Bolting in a big cam will make your car sound tuff but not neccessarily be tuff so spare alot of time to researching where you want to end up HP wise and what you are actually doing with the car once completed.
Maybe alot of jumbo here but worth a thought all the same.
Best of luck,
Andy.

[VXIINV]

ive got 1 of these cams in my ls2 406ci stroker, awsome cam, makes the power 360rwkw n/a. fully built motor, ported heads, manifold, big fuel system etc. but a bit of a pain to drive around town, doesnt like low revs in a manual, nice n lumpy. i love it

[SSV8TE]

ive got 1 of these cams in my ls2 406ci stroker, awsome cam, makes the power 360rwkw n/a. fully built motor, ported heads, manifold, big fuel system etc. but a bit of a pain to drive around town, doesnt like low revs in a manual, nice n lumpy. i love it

It is an awsome cam mate and with my L98 and a few other tricks i am looking around the same kw figures you have. Mine has lightened flywheel and underdrive so she hunts a touch at adle which is nearly impossible to get rid of but as a few of has commented on dont expect to get huge kw figures without doing all the required upgrades.
Exhaust was a big one in the fact that the new cam couldnt get the air in to start with so i used a custom intake for experimenting and that solved the air in.
Then after that we couldnt get the air out with the stepped headers xforce so we are now fitting 1 7/8 pacies to get the spent gas out.
These are a few of the things you need to look into in order to make this grind really show full potential.
Very rough idle and sounds tuff but needs lots of research as i said before you start.
Hope all goes well for you,
Andy.