SSV Delivery Time- does not add up to me

[bigpete23]

Hey guys,
I am so pumped up for my new SSV which i ordered on 20th May 2009. Car is as follows:
SSV sedan manual, Karma color, towbar, factory reverse sensors, weather shields, mats, boot liner and power socket in boot. Drive Away $49,000

Original delivery date when ordered is 1st July 2009 on the invoice, 6 weeks from ordering the car. I thought i can live with 6 weeks it gives me something to look forward to. On wednesday i thought 2 weeks to go i might give holden a ring and find out if we are still on track for 1st july delivery date. Lucky i rang because low and behold it is now going to be delivered on the 3rd September 2009, I was like, what the hell!!!!, that is a bit excessive for a commodore with nothing special about it. I was expecting it to push out a week or 2 but not bloody 10 weeks. The salesman said there is nothing he can do and that date comes from holden. He could not even tell me why it is going to be that long i.e. no more 6.0L engines in australia etc.

Straight away i rang around to other dealers seeing if they can do the car for the same price but deliver earlier. Every one I rang said that they can not match that price and that the original dealer has made a mistake and wants to get out of the contract. All other dealers also said maximum delivery time on that car is 6-8 weeks no more.

My question is does this delivery time seem excessive or have other people experienced this with their cars?

What should i do? If they realised they made a mistake with the pricing then i want to wait for the car as a matter of principal now but I also want my car now and dont want to wait. It is just annoying as i like to know WHY, i dont just accept things like some people.

Thanks heaps

Peter

[Brandonsdad]

There is good and bad to this story.
If you really want it, just wait. It will be worth it. When september comes around, and it will, you will have a brand new up to date car which might even be plated MY10. I think.
On the other hand, the VF will not be too far away, apparently, so maybe hold off altogether until then. I know you have ants in your pants but may be worth it even more so than a September VE.
I dont think that $49,000 for an SSV is that much of a jaw dropping price though. Im sure others have had prices like that lately.

Also another thing to remember is that Holdens have cut back production lately and most of the workforce are Pommies that live in Lisbeff. (Satellite city north of Adelaide where all poms settled when they came over).

[bigpete23]

I didnt think it was a jaw dropping price either but that is what i have been told by numerous dealers (they could be lying though). I have been searching for a date for the VF holden and can not find anything about it. If i knew when it was coming out and how it differed i would maybe wait but that is the same with everything, if you always waited for the newest model then you would never buy anything. Thanks for your advice though i will take it on board.

[Brandonsdad]

I didnt think it was a jaw dropping price either but that is what i have been told by numerous dealers (they could be lying though). I have been searching for a date for the VF holden and can not find anything about it. If i knew when it was coming out and how it differed i would maybe wait but that is the same with everything, if you always waited for the newest model then you would never buy anything. Thanks for your advice though i will take it on board.

I can understand Holden not telling us that VF will be here soon, but surely it is close, very close. It would be a shame to get your VE possibly a matter of weeks before the VF. Anyway, either way you still get a brand new car that will be heaps of fun, just that the VF will be slightly more fun. Hehehe.

[bigpete23]

Or maybe the sequel will not be as good as the original, that is what i am hoping if i end up with a VE SSV, but we shall just have to wait and find out.

[ve/ss]

Unless you put a note in the special conditions section of the contract specifying a delivery date i dont think there is anything you can do other than wait.

[falcom]

My theory on this is that $49k is an excellent price for a SSV and the dealer has made a stuff up.(The full retail on that SSV would have to be $58 - $59k drive away)

So to cover up their stuff up they have told you a later date when VE will be well and truly in Run Out mode so that the dealer can get the factory bonus for run out models so that they will still make money on the deal.

Just my Theory.

[bigpete23]

I dont know, but i am glad everyone thinks it is an excessive wait of 16 weeks. I have just rung holden and they told me that if i get the order number they can look it up for me and let me know the status of the car. I just need to get the order number of the car from the dealer.

[boyley]

Wow thats friggen appauling:vpo:

I sat down with the local new car manager on 13th June and said I wanted a SSV man ute in black delivered before June 30th due to tax reasons.

He looked up the national database and found one scheduled build for the 16th June, put my name on it and I shall have it before EOM.

Maybe because you added all the extras it might take a little longer but I wouldnt be happy at all.

Cheers Boyley

Edit I got the car at a $40k driveaway price thats $7k off retail so price has nothing to do with it.

[JLR]

I had to wait ages due to a strike back in 2002 when my car was ready but had no exhaust system. Different story i know. Maybe get a mate to ring up the dealer, say he wants to buy the same spec car and how long will it take to arrive, and he'll put a deposit down. All the theories are quite interesting and probably not all that far off the mark.

Definately get the order number off the dealer, then Holden 'should' be able to tell you where the car is along the production schedule.

[bigdogdazza]

Firstly the price, I do beleive that they have stuffed it maybe a bit as I have done extensive searching for a similar ssv m6 around a month ago and the best price was not even close to that figure! Secondly I was told by several dealers that due to the downturn in the current market Holden was systematically closing the production plant for a peiod of time around 6 weeks so I could either get in before this or wait a while until production started again. I do not work for Holden and dont know if this is the truth but might explain your delays.:confused:

[planetdavo]

I would be curious to know if long delays are primarily restricted to MANUAL cars.
It's easy for people to just go "thats sh!t thay r lyingk", but what proof have these people got to say that???
The reason I said manual cars is that Holden have had delays releasing the modified design clutch and pedal assembly for the VE clutch issue. Perhaps this is involved somehow.
Get the order number and save everyone working themselves into a lather over every possible conspiracy theory. :)

[zeeute]

Thats really bad Peter :(

I ordered mine last month (VE SS Ute with some extras) and it is still on track to be here the first week of next month...

[bigpete23]

Yeah, i like all the theories though gives me something to think about. I went and saw the dealer yesterday and got the order number and will ring holden today, with any luck they say "gee that does not sound right" they then chase it up and it was a mistake, but who knows i will keep you all posted. Like i said earlier it is not the actual wait that is annoying me it is the fact no one can or will tell me WHY it is going to take that long. If it is to fix the clutch problem then just tell me i would be happier to wait for a fixed clutch than get a stuffed one early on.

thanks

Pete

Just rung holden themselves, the cars delivery date is correct at 3rd sept 2009 and it is because they do not have a sedan SSV in Karma sitting on the lot to be fitted out with the options and therefore it will be made from scratch sometime between now and september. It is a little dissaapointing but in saying that i now have 77 days to look forward to something.

Pete

[BlackCalaisVVE]

That still doesnt seem right. Thats say you had chosen to have a sunroof as an option and they had the same colour car on the lot im not sure if they would go back and add a sunroof.
I dont know how it works at the holden factory but could be proven wrong.

It only took 2 months to get my Calais from when i ordered it and was told it had to be built from scratch. It had plenty of extras, sat nav, sunroof, rear socket, 20 inch wheels, alloy pedals, tints and the list goes on. Also given some of these extras are done by the dealer such as the tinting.

[hurricane]

Ordered 09 HSV R8 Manual 30th March rang the dealer last week delivery date maybe 1st july built from scratch optioned only with leather a bit of a wait , in my opinion you should not have to wait that long but if its done right then i dont mind the wait. $69000 drive away. Cheers Ian.

[bigpete23]

Yeah if it turns out to NOT be a lemon and has good build quality then it will be worth the wait. It still seems suss to me but oh well.

[RACE5L]

I am in the same boat, but was promised a shorter timeframe of 2-3 weeks on a Voodoo VE SS ute with no extras, M6. Given the usual story on 30th May of order it now (which i was going to sign anyway for $34,000 or below drive-away) and you will wait 2-3 weeks for delivery otherwise any later and it will be 2 months or more. I told the salesman i took that with a grain of salt.
Anyway, was scheduled for delivery yesterday, called salesman multiple times, given the with a customer and will call you back in 20 minutes on each occasion, no return call. After advising on last attempt i would go through dealer principal if no return call in 30mins, he called back to say it was in the hands of Toll Logistics SA with no idea if in their yard in SA or on in its way to Sydney or elsewhere, a guesstimate was given of 3-6days no guarantee.
It is a little inconvenient as i got an offer on the car it was replacing to good to refuse and took it a day after order, and had a few things that need doing with a ute or van that have had to be held back lol. So probably more personal than their issue, just frustrating to have no definitive or clear deadline..

[boyley]

Wow thats friggen appauling:vpo:

I sat down with the local new car manager on 13th June and said I wanted a SSV man ute in black delivered before June 30th due to tax reasons.

He looked up the national database and found one scheduled build for the 16th June, put my name on it and I shall have it before EOM.

Maybe because you added all the extras it might take a little longer but I wouldnt be happy at all.

Cheers Boyley

Edit I got the car at a $40k driveaway price thats $7k off retail so price has nothing to do with it.

Just an update on mine, is in the carpark at Elizabeth and will take 7-10 working days to get to tassie.

[DEVOJET]

I'm in the same boat waiting for my SSV wagon Manual. Was told 6 weeks when I ordered it in March and now it is currently in transit from the factory to the Gold Coast and is set to arrive on the 7/7/09. I think the wait has something to do with them swaping from 2 shifts per day to 1 at the factory.

[chillicatqld]

Devojet - just ordered my SSV Manual black today. Told 4 - 10 weeks! Damn it!
Did you get a good deal?

[DEVOJET]

I was happy with the deal I got including what they offered me for my Crewman as a trade. I think it was about $10k below RRP.

[falcom]

Devojet - just ordered my SSV Manual black today. Told 4 - 10 weeks! Damn it!
Did you get a good deal?

On another thread some one said that there is a dealer bulletin that the VE will get an update at the end of August.(VE MY10 or VF).If this is the case you may be getting the updated model.

[RACE5L]

Looks like my contract is about to get pulled at this dealer as i am not going to pay in full before taking delivery and they insist it has to be done to keep bonuses before end of financial year. Not with the amount of dealers collapsing. If they want to raise price, it has to be in writing and i can rescind this offer without penalty and recieve full deposit back. There are utes out there of exactly the same spec and colour, could get for same price, just have to find out yard and drive there.

[chillicatqld]

Mate do not pay anything more than a deposit! That is all that is required for an order.

[RACE5L]

Mate do not pay anything more than a deposit! That is all that is required for an order.

Exactly, the only tactic are using is to say there is nothing to hold contract at price currently on it and Holden may raise prices on July 1st via cancellation of bonuses, and i stated there is nothing holding me to not rescinding on the request if thats the case per contract. The car is in transit by their words and is said to be due no later than next tues or wed on the lot which is into July, they are hoping Monday. In saying that, i was given 4 delivery dates before that.
I have learnt by experience, you pay up front all incentive is lost by the recieving party. And going off the interest lost from just signing the papers and fighting to recieve return phone calls has made me reluctant no matter how much i trust their words.

[chillicatqld]

Yep, don't go paying interest on a car you are not even enjoying/owning.
I paid $1000 deposit for mine - all I had to do to get the car ordered pre EOFY and make me elligible for the 50% tax deduction for small business.
Just try and put the price up!! will see who has last laugh.