HELP deadlocked out of VZ

[bennoxr8]

Guys & girls, i need help. Battery in my VZ is disconnected, bonnet is closed and cabin seems to be deadlocked. Cannot open using key in door. Have been told to add a bit of jiggle to the handle while turning key, still no good.

Is only option breaking glass to enter? Will bonnet even open while car is deadlocked?

Any suggestions greatly appreciated!!!

[WOMBIE]

Mate from memory you just insert the key in your door lock and turning it (I think it's clockwise) till you think it's going to break and 'then' try lifting the handle up!

[bennoxr8]

Wombie, you are a bloody champion!!! It does require a damn good (close to key breaking) turn clockwise and then a yank on the handle, the button stays down, but the door opens. Thanks so much for the prompt advice!

[WOMBIE]

Mate no problem i'm just happy that you didn't just go ahead and break a window :eek:

Glad you got it sorted!

[BLACK 346]

Top stuff Wombie, how much money and tears have people
like you saved others on this forum over the years :goodjob:

[vx_clubby]

yes good stuff Wombie, I didnt know that either.
Ill store that one in the memory bank, quite a handy tip.

[Groboz]

yes good stuff Wombie, I didnt know that either.
Ill store that one in the memory bank, quite a handy tip.

+ 1 :) May come in handy with the Monaro.

[Grommz]

WOMBIE - Helping ls1 members steal cars since 2004..

:lol:

[vuss383]

As seen above this method does work .... Try ringing most holden dealers & they do not know this . Have used this method many a time in the past . Most people you advise of this are not game enough to force the key enough to gain entry !

Well done Wombie with the quick reply !

Troy

[WOMBIE]

Thanks fellas but someone would have given him the tip if it wasn't me :yup:



WOMBIE - Helping ls1 members steal cars since 2004..

:lol:

:confused: You don't need a key to steal someone's ride.............and you can take that to the bank ;)

[hsv-maloo-R8]

if the battery is dissconnected,,but still there,is there any chance you can squeeze your hand up from under neath,and feel around and rest or push the terminals on the battery, same time in the other hand, pushing the remote?

[WOMBIE]

You'd want to have an ET type wrist and fingers but hell you just might be able to pull it off.Give it a shot yourself and report back mate to let us know how you went :)

[Devil CV8]

This topic comes up every month or so (or the how do I get in the boot with a dead battery). problem is people look for the button to go up and don't try pulling on the handle anyway.

good to see you got it sorted.

[Tecca]

WOMBIE - Helping ls1 members steal cars since 2004..

:lol:

hahahah:rofl:

[WOMBIE]

hahahah:rofl:

:rofl::rofl:

[6.2L.Club]

It's quite easy to get to the back of the alternator if you can borrow someones jack, just put a jumper battery to the B+ on the back of the alternator and anywhere to ground, this will give the car power to unlock doors/boot etc so you can get inside.

[galaga]

Guys sorry to drag an old thread. I know how to get in my car with deadlock and flat battery, cause I am sitting in it... :-) but does this point to a flat car battery or something else?
My key would not work so I forced lock.
Alarm did not go off?????
Door locks will not come up???
I put the key in the ignition and turned, dashlights came on but stereo did not and car will not turn over at all. There is not even a sound to suggest it is trying. Holden told me it will be my management system???

[swingtan]

If it's a VZ and has the original battery, then your battery is probably dead.


Do the dash lights dim or go off when you attempt to start the car?
Do the head lights fail to turn on or are they dim?
Does the horn sound right?


Answer yes to any / all of these and it points to a dead battery. There is probably just enough charge to light the dash, but from the sounds of it, not even enough to power the starting solenoid ( if there was, you would get a "clack, clack,clack" sound when attempting to start on a flat battery vs your dead one ).

You can try a jump start from another car if you like.

Simon.

[ti0350]

Sounds like what my car did when the battery went flat on me, dash lights came on and nothing else.. Changed the battery and no probs at all now..

[galaga]

Cheers guys, will try a new battery after work and go from there. Hope nothing more as wont be able to get it looked at till wednesday otherwise!!!!

[kpop]

bump for a very informative thread !

battery was completely and utterley dead this morning (dodgy stereo install methinks) so i remembered this thread.

car wouldnt unlock with the remote, so i put the key in, turned clock wise till i heard a click, and pulled on the handle! door opened !

it was surprisingly easy too ? going from other posts they say you have to turn very hard...

[wikky]

Sorry to dig up an old thread but it's the exact topic I'm stuck on. My battery's dead and my car's deadlocked. I've tried the 'key in the door and pulled the handle' trick, but to no avail (I've tried about 100 times, started bending the key). I read Tim's post above about putting a jumper battery on the battery + on the alternator but the jumper leads I have don't fit up through the tiny gap (I've jacked the car up). I'll try and track down some smaller alligator clips I guess. Anybody have any other tricks they know of? I'm stumped. :bawl:
This'll teach me for only driving the car once a month (sometimes less).

[RARASV8]

hey wikky! how about splicing some wire and putting that on the positive side of the starter, back to the other battery and grounding the negative. only needs the power not the amps.

the stalker:1peek:

Garry

[wikky]

how about splicing some wire and putting that on the positive side of the starter

G'day Garry,

Do you mean starter or alternator? I tried wrapping a wire around the positive on the alternator with power from another battery (grounded of course). It still wouldn't unlock the car. Do I need to leave the 'donor' battery hooked up for a while before I try (I only tried straight away after hooking it up). It's pissing me off. I finally have a chance to drive the car with a few days off and I can't.

[RARASV8]

try putting power(+) of doner battery to positive side of starter and earth negative(-) to any steal part of chassis.
the power side of the battery goes straight to the starter and then to other stuff from there.

Garry

[wikky]

try putting power(+) of doner battery to positive side of starter and earth negative(-) to any steal part of chassis.
the power side of the battery goes straight to the starter and then to other stuff from there.

Garry

Thanks Garry, I reckon I'll go out to the shed and give that a crack now. See how I go. Thanks mate.

[wikky]

Fark, that's even harder to get to than the alternator. I'll have to have another look tomorrow. Failing that it looks like new glass for one of the doors.

[RARASV8]

if you break a window!

think before you do it

sometimes the smallest window costs the most! and the biggest costs the least! side windows cost more than WINDSCREEN!!!!!!!!

Garry

[wikky]

if you break a window!

think before you do it

sometimes the smallest window costs the most! and the biggest costs the least! side windows cost more than WINDSCREEN!!!!!!!!

Garry

Breaking glass will be an absolute last resort. I'll try all other options many times first. If anything, I'm a persistent bastard.

[brycieboy]

got racv toral care?? get a man to come around and break in.. if they can u get a lockmsith

[deano23x]

Breaking glass will be an absolute last resort. I'll try all other options many times first. If anything, I'm a persistent bastard.

wikky where do you live? this happened to me years ago in my vx clubby and i mastered getting into it, instead of putting the key in and turning it until it breaks, put the key in and slowly slowly and i mean slowly turn it clockwise, i mean 0.5mil every second or so if that makes sense,so very very slow and it should just release and pop

[wikky]

wikky where do you live? this happened to me years ago in my vx clubby and i mastered getting into it, instead of putting the key in and turning it until it breaks, put the key in and slowly slowly and i mean slowly turn it clockwise, i mean 0.5mil every second or so if that makes sense,so very very slow and it should just release and pop

G'day Deano. I live up near Shepparton mate. I tried (about 20 times) what you suggested above and no luck. Thanks for the suggestion though. I even tried 'using the force' and holding my tongue to the left then to the right.

Question. If the battery is dead flat, won't it need to be hooked up to another power source for a while before the locks will pop?
I'll ask this before I try it: Can I hook up a trickle charger to the positive of the alternator or starter motor and leave it for a while? Will doing this do any damage to any of the electrics? I'm very hesitant in trying this but thought it was worth asking anyway.

Thanks for the help and suggestions guys.

[1BEAST2NV]

MAYBE if you un-hook it from the starter motor first it should be ok as it goes to the + battery terminal, but I would'nt leave it hooked up to the starter motor and do it.... also make sure you earth it to the motor somewhere as well..

Hopefully, well the theory would be that doing this will charge the battery right?? :)

[RARASV8]

mornin wikky!

should be no probs connecting to positive side of battery and connecting the negative to earth on the motor, to charge the battery. i think thats the better option than connecting to the alternator. might sound funny but have you tried the boot?

Garry

[wikky]

MAYBE if you un-hook it from the starter motor first it should be ok as it goes to the + battery terminal, but I would'nt leave it hooked up to the starter motor and do it.... also make sure you earth it to the motor somewhere as well..

Hopefully, well the theory would be that doing this will charge the battery right?? :)

Problem is I can't get any tools up in there to disconnect the wire from the starter. I've got the front of the car jacked up (safely) and I'm lying underneath it. It's as awkward as a greyhound rooting a golfball.


mornin wikky!

should be no probs connecting to positive side of battery and connecting the negative to earth on the motor, to charge the battery. i think thats the better option than connecting to the alternator. might sound funny but have you tried the boot?

Garry

G'day Garry, yep tried the boot, that was the second button I tried. Wish the bastard still had key access like they used to.

[1BEAST2NV]

Maybe it should be ok to hook it up with it on (connected still) ??

Well think of it like this, that "wire" on the starter motor is carrying power fulltime anyway, SO i guess putting power straight to it will be the same as having a charged battery :), but still use the earth to the motor somewhere :)

[wikky]

Maybe it should be ok to hook it up with it on (connected still) ??

Well think of it like this, that "wire" on the starter motor is carrying power fulltime anyway, SO i guess putting power straight to it will be the same as having a charged battery :), but still use the earth to the motor somewhere :)

YOU FARKIN RIPPER!!!! I'M IN! :woohoo:

I connected the trickle charger to the positive on the starter and the neg to the motor, turned it on and thought I'd try the button. POP! The car's unlocked. It obviously didn't need much to open them.

Thanks so much to the blokes who responded to my call for help in this thread. That's what makes this forum so great, people helping others out. If I ever bump into you guys I'll buy you a beer! :cheers:

[RARASV8]

hey wikky! how about splicing some wire and putting that on the positive side of the starter, back to the other battery and grounding the negative. only needs the power not the amps.

the stalker:1peek:

Garry
congrats
so was the other battery flat?

[corsa]

Just read this Thread from Start to finish, awesome stuff, Never thought of the trickle charger!! :goodjob:

[wikky]

congrats
so was the other battery flat?

Cheers Garry. Do you mean the donor battery? It was fine.



Just read this Thread from Start to finish, awesome stuff, Never thought of the trickle charger!! :goodjob:

That's why it's good to post up these things as it may help someone else out one day and get them out of strife.

[fyfee]

mate from memory you just insert the key in your door lock and turning it (i think it's clockwise) till you think it's going to break and then' try lifting the handle up!


wombie, you are a bloody champion!!! It does require a damn good (close to key breaking) turn clockwise and then a yank on the handle, the button stays down, but the door opens. Thanks so much for the prompt advice!

I just wanted to thank benno and wombie for these two posts! Saved me from breaking a window! Thank you thank you thank you!!!