Friday July 3 2009 - HSV confirms launch of E Series 2 (Pics @ post#81)

[XLR8 V8]

Friday July 3 2009 Holden Special Vehicles confirms launch of E Series 2
Major multi-million upgrade to HSV range
A number of Australian auto technology production ‘firsts’
Major improvements in fuel economy
Unveil before Bathurst

HSV confirmed today the highly successful E Series range will be given a major upgrade with new features, driver enhancements and visual changes for introduction later in 2009.

According to Managing Director Phil Harding, the multi-million dollar program includes major visual differentiation and introduces at least five firsts for Australian production cars – a huge shot in the arm for the local industry.

“We know our customers want the latest technologies, as well as distinctive luxury and performance features in their HSV,” he said.

“Our customers will be delighted with the delivery of improved economy, more power, some truly exciting driver enhancements and distinctive design themes.”

HSV will start a staged preview campaign aimed at generating customer interest and demand in the new model. Dealers, frequent buyers and loyal customers will be supplied this information ahead of general release because of the importance of this new model to HSV.

The HSV Dealer network has been briefed on the changes, and they are actively speaking with past, present and future customers about the exciting new models.

“This represents a massive change for the successful E Series range and is the culmination of three years of research and development,” Phil Harding said.

More details will be released when E Series 2 is launched.

In the interim, keep visiting www.hsv.com.au for further information, features and footage on E Series 2 prior to the launch.

Source: HSV Media Release

[Dav0]

I want to see steering wheel gear lever thingies like the ferraris have, i think them things are awesome as much as they are a gimmick.

[XLR8 V8]

Early information on this topic can be found here: Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=121478)

[calais190]

I heard from an unreliable source that the end of this year HSV would have a new cosmetic design to it... The guy who told me has a VE GTS and stated "i have seen pictures of the new one, and if you thought this one looks tough, wait to see the next one"... and this seems to confirm that... very interesting...

[Evman]

I don't think anyone was expecting such an expensive upgrade so soon. Fingers crossed the promised '5 firsts' are truly worthwhile and not marketing hype of little knick-knacks :goodjob:

[Old Lion]

i was activly in the market to buy a new Clubsport and was one day away from signing up , when i started to hear rumours with regard to the upgrade .After confirmation of this ,I'm happy i held off signing up for a number of reasons .

1/ Quoted mid $ 60's for man,leather and sunroof drive away last week
Today advertised at $ 58,400 base man drive away so after negotiating
could probobly pay that including leather and sunroof so theres $8,000
difference in one week .Plus the value of the current model will drop once
the new ones hit the street in September.

2/ Dealer has told me that some of the changes to be included in upgrade are
( Remember though , the dealers are getting drip fed info too )
New front and rear bars perhaps side skirt
Led strip headlights , like Audi
New taillights
New head unit
Possible use of G8 bonnets
And options of Leather , Different wheels , exhaust , and suspension upgrades , to name a few.

How many will be fact ? , we will soon find out

He expects more info next week

Cheers Old Lion

[bigdogdazza]

Should be interesting! Will keep eyes peeled!:goodjob:

[Uwish]

I highly doubt Audi style headlights, or even new tail lights.
Both are very expensive updates.

[Old Lion]

I highly doubt Audi style headlights, or even new tail lights.
Both are very expensive updates.

I agree , would much prefer that they spent the coin elsewhere
the current taillights are ok to me , not a big fan of led headlights .

Cheers Old Lion

[Ryzz]

I highly doubt Audi style headlights, or even new tail lights.
Both are very expensive updates.

While we all doubt it, its an interesting idea and could only help with HSV's aim of taking on the European market.

[korrupt]

The LED tail lights were one of the most expensive parts of the E-Series development. I would have thought they would hang around awhile longer before being replaced.

[seedyrom]

I don't think anyone was expecting such an expensive upgrade so soon. Fingers crossed the promised '5 firsts' are truly worthwhile and not marketing hype of little knick-knacks :goodjob:
Update 1 - Hot off the press
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/ls1_acc_badge_ser2.jpg

[Evman]

The LED tail lights were one of the most expensive parts of the E-Series development. I would have thought they would hang around awhile longer before being replaced.

Apart from the whole MRC thing :stick:

The only reason the tail lights were so expensive was because it involved a fairly extensive reworking of the rear end (as far as HSV were concerned anyway). The cost of engineering the lights themselves isn't that huge. Holden have used LED tail lights since (I think) the VZ (whichever long wheelbase code it is) Caprice. Now that the rear end is done, they may just redesign the lights themselves but hold the same shape, or even better, have a design that involves removing that damn plastic cap that fills the gap on top of the lights. Lets wait and see :eyes:

[iloveholden]

im looking forward to this lil' upgrade....dont totally let us down HSV.

[gmeup]

im looking forward to this lil' upgrade....dont totally let us down HSV.

Led front lights would be awesome, the audi ones look nice, when the audi idicators switchs on it automatically cancels out the white led while the indicator is on and goes back on instanly when indicator is off it looks very cool in action.

[Pickles]

I predict visual changes, slightly more power from GTS, & maybe a few more options, previously only available from Walkinshaw performance, that will now be able to be optioned on the car from new, thereby being covered by the Holden new car warranty.
Cheers, Pickles.

[aedeau]

I just got an SMS from HSV, logged onto the E2 zone on the myhsv website. The only thing of interest on there is a video which I've taken some screen caps of below. Looks pretty much the same to me.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5582/picture3d.jpg
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8674/picture2rdc.jpg

[Evman]

New wheel design...

[mustanger]

Couple of more leaks ....

1. Bimodal exhaust as an option

2. Slightly lower suspension (aka W427)

3. Vented Bonnet ,similar to Pontiac G8

[teamkiwi]

I just got an SMS from HSV, logged onto the E2 zone on the myhsv website. The only thing of interest on there is a video which I've taken some screen caps of below. Looks pretty much the same to me. [/IMG]

Thanks for the screen shots. Any chance of getting a few more up...any noticeable changes that you may have picked up on the full clip? Looks like there is going to be a new wheel design for the GTS as well as new brake calipers by the looks of things maybe.

[chillicatqld]

Thanks for the screen shots. Any chance of getting a few more up...any noticeable changes that you may have picked up on the full clip? Looks like there is going to be a new wheel design for the GTS as well as new brake calipers by the looks of things maybe.

How on earth can you tell there is new brake caliper design from that photo beats me! :diddy:

[offshore]

lets hope they dont give it the Walkinshaw bonnet lol what an ugly thing that is

[255-LS1]

How on earth can you tell there is new brake caliper design from that photo beats me! :diddy:

rofl. Exactly what i was thinking. Those two screen shots are worth about 2/3rds of FA - nothing i can see is noticably different (except possible wheels which we all knew).

Stop teasing HSV :lol:

[Holden Man]

Looks like the whole part of the brake light rings glow, instead of the current LED setup (hard to tell).

Also there seems to be a small lip in the body work above the rear light (current model doesn't). Maybe they have redesigned the top part and built in an intergrated lip wing (just guessing :))

Those changes alone may account for the extra few kw's ! :jester:

[gmeup]

lol yep definetly new breaks by the look of that photo :rofl:

[VZSS_Freak]

Has anyone notice the power/torque band....320-325kw anyone...

[255-LS1]

Has anyone notice the power/torque band....320-325kw anyone...

yep its somewhere between 300 and 350 lol. Anyone zoomage with enhancements??

[teamkiwi]

rofl. Exactly what i was thinking. Those two screen shots are worth about 2/3rds of FA - nothing i can see is noticably different (except possible wheels which we all knew).

Stop teasing HSV :lol:

May seem like a stupid point though if you look closely, isnt HSV calipers red on the GTS, now making an eduated guess from those images, im sure those caliper dont look red to me, if not, they look more like silver or gold similar to those Brembos that are located on the G8 GXP/Camaro. Do ya see where im coming from now? As i said, "Maybe" getting new calipers, i was just putting two and two together, as im guessing HSV will have a stock pile of excess GXP brakes which they will need to use somehow. Valid assumption?

[Old Lion]

Bit more gossip/rumour/fact is 6 piston brakes as an option !

Cheers Old Lion

[berroca]

Update 1 - Hot off the press
http://www.capa.com.au/pics/ls1_acc_badge_ser2.jpg

hahahah :bravo:

love it


but in seriousness i am keen to see how/what they will change thats for sure :)

[Road Warrior]

Highly unlikely there will be any cosmetic changes save for some new rims. But perhaps the G8 bonnet may make it?

[aedeau]

Couple of more leaks ....

1. Bimodal exhaust as an option

2. Slightly lower suspension (aka W427)

3. Vented Bonnet ,similar to Pontiac G8

lowered suspension as stock or dealer option? If it's stock I'm annoyed :flipoff:



Thanks for the screen shots. Any chance of getting a few more up...any noticeable changes that you may have picked up on the full clip? Looks like there is going to be a new wheel design for the GTS as well as new brake calipers by the looks of things maybe.

I'll see if i can rip the video and put it on youtube, but the video is pretty boring. It's low resolution and most of it is text.

[NRD80Y]

I just got an SMS from HSV, logged onto the E2 zone on the myhsv website. The only thing of interest on there is a video which I've taken some screen caps of below. Looks pretty much the same to me.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/5582/picture3d.jpg
Based on the line drawing front view does it look like the HSV nostrils are gone and replaced with a Senator looking open grille?

[Excellent]

At least from that pic, it looks like HSV will continue to badge the GTS with a kW rating ("3"XX).

[blowski]

To me the lights kinda look smaller, i just took the pic out and put it up along side then clubby and unless the lens used to take to photo is a very wide style it looks as if the lights do not follow the whole curve of the body. I kind of put my self on the same angle and couldnt see the 317 badges as well as the image maybe a smaller light? but same design? beats me? just my 2c worth.

and if you look above were the foggies and driving lights are in the pic of the lights that has the car side on and front on it kinda looks like a vent above the driving lights or something shaded in? between the bonnet and wheel arch? any one else see the shading? maybe another side vent?

or maybe hidden sub machine guns mounted to shoot oncoming cows and roo's could be a great driver enhancement especially up north :P:jester:

[korrupt]

and if you look above were the foggies and driving lights are in the pic of the lights that has the car side on and front on it kinda looks like a vent above the driving lights or something shaded in? between the bonnet and wheel arch? any one else see the shading? maybe another side vent?

I thought that was the indicator in the front headlight ?

[blowski]

I thought that was the indicator in the front headlight ?

maybe but it looks like its sitting to far back?

[MaDDoG]

Did someone say GTS with 6 Piston Brembo brakes and LS7 donk............and sequential gerabox with steering wheel shift paddles.:)

[GEN III]

Did someone say GTS with 6 Piston Brembo brakes and LS7 donk............and sequential gerabox with steering wheel shift paddles.:)

No?







..........

[iloveholden]

Did someone say GTS with 6 Piston Brembo brakes and LS7 donk............and sequential gerabox with steering wheel shift paddles.:)

:drool:....that sounds too good to be true...

[Dug]

Forget all this opinion stuff that we seem to be seeing. We need CSP to come in and give us the Cold Hard Facts as to EXACTLY what is going to happen. He has unbelievably good sources, and could not possibly ever be wrong....:1peek:

[falcom]

In the media release they use the words "Massive Change" & "Major Upgrade".

Looking at those teaser pictures the E series 2 will look almost identical to the E series and the dash will also probably almost be identical.

I would not call a 5% fuel economy gain and 2.5% power gain with some small technology updates a "Massive change" or a Major Upgrade"

I think this is the marketing department at their best when realistically it is just a "Minor upgrade"

[Excellent]

In the media release they use the words "Massive Change" & "Major Upgrade".

Looking at those teaser pictures the E series 2 will look almost identical to the E series and the dash will probably almost be identical.

I would not call a 5% fuel economy gain and 2.5% power gain with some small technology updates a "Massive change" or a Major Upgrade"

I think this is the marketing department at their best when realistically it is just a "Minor upgrade"

Didn't HSV also make a song and dance about the 25th Anniversary R8 which was just a striped package?

[vzss05]

Forget all this opinion stuff that we seem to be seeing. We need CSP to come in and give us the Cold Hard Facts as to EXACTLY what is going to happen. He has unbelievably good sources, and could not possibly ever be wrong....:1peek:

LOL:rofl::goodjob:

[mustanger]

MMMM,HSV could quite possibly offer LPG as an option :idea:

[MaDDoG]

MMMM,HSV could quite possibly offer LPG as an option :idea:

Injected LPG costs $4200 minus $2000 Govt rebate. Same power out put but economy goes up - however LPG is a LOT cheaper than petrol. Even so I figure something like 2 years griving to pay it off.

I think I read somewhere that HSV were not planning an LPG option at this time though. Also that AFM was not on the list yet either.

There was however talk of a (BMW engined?) turbo deisel HSV getting around.

Anyway I'll believe it when I see it parked in Mustangers garage next to the Merc.:)

[PSI_747]

OK....here it is. We built a few MY10 HSV's today and yesterday.

I can tell you it gets a G8 BONNET.......which means new front facia to accomodate the G8 bonnet, which would mean a new rear facia i would say...new side skirts to go with the rest of the new kit as you would think.

The dash is EXACTLT the same, didn't look NO different at all.

So by scoring the G8 Bonnet, YES it will no doubt receive a full new body kit...front facia at the very least anyway.

Good day.

[iloveholden]

Cheers for your info mate....what about new wheel designs or power output...any news there?

[GEN III]

Cheers for your info mate....what about new wheel designs or power output...any news there?

He wouldn't see the wheels just the generic OEM ones they throw on in production.

[PSI_747]

Cheers for your info mate....what about new wheel designs or power output...any news there?

Unsure on NEW wheel designs mate or power figures. Anymore info i hear of, i'll be sure to post it here.

Cheers.

[iloveholden]

Unsure on NEW wheel designs mate or power figures. Anymore info i hear of, i'll be sure to post it here.

Cheers.

Thats cool mate...thanks for sharing :)

[gmack]

PSI 747

Were these pilot builds or production.

[jono_xuv53]

if HSV get G8 bonnets then they will end up like the monaro bonnet and they will be everywhere and loose thier uniqueness if you could put it that way. eventually they will be a lot cheaper and every man and his dog will have one

[teamkiwi]

if HSV get G8 bonnets then they will end up like the monaro bonnet and they will be everywhere and loose thier uniqueness if you could put it that way. eventually they will be a lot cheaper and every man and his dog will have one

But if you look at it from a buyers perspective, its further differentiation from your standard omega commodore

[XLR8 V8]

if HSV get G8 bonnets then they will end up like the monaro bonnet and they will be everywhere and loose thier uniqueness if you could put it that way. eventually they will be a lot cheaper and every man and his dog will have one

In the case of the monaro bonnet, GM fitted to the monaro and then people bought them/copied them and put it on all other models. The difference in this case is that a lot of people already have the G8 bonnet fitted to their VE after buying them from aftermarket dealers who copied the US version. HSV are coming in 2nd on this styling change.

[boyley]

HSV-2 reveals some startling finds on google :hide:

[QIKMIK]

HSV-2 reveals some startling finds on google :hide:Makes you think twice about saying "HSV - I just got one!"

Mick

[boyley]

Makes you think twice about saying "HSV - I just got one!"

Mick

:lol: Fortunately you can sell the car version

[lowriding]

HSV-2 reveals some startling finds on google :hide:

very startling boyley :) , dont want that upgrade !

[mustanger]

GTS to get 327 kw in the new Wheels magazine ( according to writers Martin Donnan and Bruce Newton) :hide::cool:

[PSI_747]

PSI 747

Were these pilot builds or production.

Production.Seen a fair few now. From our side of things, the only change is the G8 bonnet. The rest is exactly the same. All the other changes will be done at HSV themselves.(new body kit,wheels(if they change)

The G8 bonnet will be UNIQUE to HSV.....the G8 bonnet requires the front bar to suit it. A G8 Bonnet will NOT fit any other VE model without the required front bar....so wont get bastardised like all the VT/VX's out there running around with monaro bonnets.

Want the G8 bonnet, buy the front bar to suit.....cant have one without the other. It's good i think, not so many mock-ups getting around that way.

[SupremeVT98]

I heard the hand brake handle will stay!:lol:

[Evman]

I really, really don't see why so many people complain about the handbrake. I've used it many times in a Caprice and I really like it. Give me that one any day over the one in my VY.

[mustanger]

I really, really don't see why so many people complain about the handbrake. I've used it many times in a Caprice and I really like it. Give me that one any day over the one in my VY.

I think it`s more the way that it looks, rather than the way it works.

[MaDDoG]

I don't like the handbrake as it ruins my fuel economy.:)

[PSI_747]

Built a few today.....i think the GTS is the only model to receive the G8 bonnet, as we built some with normal bonnets. GTS to receive 327kw, the rest of the line up to stay at the current 317kw so i'm told.
New front bar and side skirts i'm hearing also.

As for the hand brake, i also don't see a problem with it. For those that don't like it, get used to it, because it aint changing.

[teamkiwi]

Built a few today.....i think the GTS is the only model to receive the G8 bonnet, as we built some with normal bonnets. GTS to receive 327kw, the rest of the line up to stay at the current 317kw so i'm told.
New front bar and side skirts i'm hearing also.

As for the hand brake, i also don't see a problem with it. For those that don't like it, get used to it, because it aint changing.

So are these test mule or actual dealer ordered vehicles? So have you managed to see what the new body kits on the GTS have you while you are assembling them?

[PSI_747]

So are these test mule or actual dealer ordered vehicles? So have you managed to see what the new body kits on the GTS have you while you are assembling them?

These will be headed straight to HSV mate. They didn't have PILOT stamped on them...so they'll be getting them kitted up ready for sale in September i'd say.
They leave the Holden factory with black plastic front/rear bumpers/side skirts, and stockies.

They fit all there bit and pieces there, except for the interior, we do that.

Cheers.

[Holden Man]

.....except for the interior, we do that.

Cheers.

Is that the one with a big new colour screen ? :eyes:

[PSI_747]

Is that the one with a big new colour screen ? :eyes:

No new big colour screen to my knowledge.....the interiors look NO different from what i've seen.

Built a MY10 Maloo today....had the G8 bonnet. The G8 bonnet may be an option..not sure, have been hearing its only a GTS thing.

[gmack]

Could g8 bonnet and 327 be a performance option across the range?

[MaDDoG]

I am tipping launch control on the manual 327 GTS only model. As for the G8 bonnet I would bet that was all HSV's and can't imagine a change to anything but the front to suit the bonnet. Lets also have a stab at two models like before....Clubsport and R8. Sounds logical. Had it before and have done it with the Senator and Senator Signature.
I'm guessing lots of options as well that have not been seen before.....maybe changes to the MRC for extra settings or a switchable power button to limit the amount of power being delivered for situations like when the wife and kids (Holden dealer service mechanic/car park attendant) are driving.
Whatever I'm sure the HSV's will be different to the SS's. Did I hear turbo diesel....I seem to remember a turbo diesel being tested.
Also a guess, but what about a turbo six to combat Fords XR 6 turbo. The new DI six sounds pretty decent stock but imagine with a nice turbo......:bow:

[Rotty]

Any ideas on the price rise over the current model? And where are the spy shots!!!!

[KuRT12]

the current series HSV's are so bloody cheap now, they trying to get rid of em.

Not bad time to buy a brand spanking VE if u wanted one :)

[vlcalais2005]

Wouldnt they have huge excess stock of G8 bonnets since GM went to the shitter

[PSI_747]

Wouldnt they have huge excess stock of G8 bonnets since GM went to the shitter

YEP, plenty of surpless G8 bonnets...hence why HSV have jumped at using them. They would've got them at a steal, and only needs a new front facia to suit the G8 bonnet.

Cant wait to see the new HSV front facia, was not a big fan of the G8 facia, not agressive enough for the rest of the car, i'm sure HSV will rectify that!

The launch can't come quick enough.

[nonchalant]

Good to see HSV is going great guns & are making such a huge investment in their product, particularly when you consider the financial downturn in the world economy.

Best thing about this is in 2-3 years time many of us will find the second-hand price of these cars is just within reach of our capacity to buy :goodjob:

[Old Lion]

Photo shoot for E series 2 is supposed to be happening this week , if so expect
unofficial spy shots to be around early next week .

Cheers Old Lion

[james33]

I have seen 4 pictures taken out the front of a photo shoot in South Melbourne yesterday(they were taken on a moblie).The senator was taped up at the front and rear bars along with the wheels.The Clubsport was taped up the same including half the bonnet.The tail lights and rear spolier look like the current HSV.I will post them up on Saturday.One may just make it in fridays Hearald Sun in the motor section.?:)

[mustanger]

I can see the new vented bonnet and front fascia becoming a popular addition on the superseded model :yup:

[PaulM]

There are pictures of the car and details here, soon to be on caradvice apparently.

http://www.pavle.com.au/53/2010-hsv-e2-series-details/

[teamkiwi]

There are pictures of the car and details here, soon to be on caradvice apparently.

http://www.pavle.com.au/53/2010-hsv-e2-series-details/

Nice find mate... looks very aggressive thought the rear end looks alittle to messy if you ask me. Not sure about the blacked out section on the Tourer either, might have to wait for some quality pictures before commenting further.

once again nice find.

[Black AH CDX]

There are pictures of the car and details here, soon to be on caradvice apparently.

http://www.pavle.com.au/53/2010-hsv-e2-series-details/

It's HIDEOUS!!!

[HSVDKB]

If thats for real they have really screwed up the rear!

[WIKED]

It's HIDEOUS!!!
Totally agree with you. I am sure there will be people that love it but I am not one of them.

[teamkiwi]

If thats for real they have really screwed up the rear!

Agree, though the front end does remind me of a bmw 5 series

Also if you have a closer look at the front end of the tourer, is that a GTS badge on the bottom airdam??

[EddieVE06]

OMG, yuk, very ricer , looks like a whole lot of pieces stuck together.

lets hope their wrong.

[mustanger]

OMG, yuk, very ricer , looks like a whole lot of pieces stuck together.

lets hope their wrong.

Not a fan ATM.

I will wait to see one close up........

[X BC X]

front end has potential without the leds. may look quite mean in black

but what where they thinking with the ass end :confused:

looks like some creation from a bottom feeder spoiler shop

that and the led lights gives the impression of a boy racer accessory slut of a car :bawl:

bad call hutchy....bad....call

[Excellent]

Looks like a CSV Commodore.

:spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::s pew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spe w::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew: :spew::spew::spew::spew::spew::spew:

Well done, HSV! You've made my decision to get an SSV much easier (cheaper too)! :)

[fatbob]

+1 very very ugly - front end is sort of ok ( though just looks like the bonnet of a vz munro stuck on ) - but the rear - yeah, ricey - like a mazda 6 - very bad

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

im glad i got an E1
maybe it will grow on people but it doesn't say
"I JUST WONT ONE "

for me :weirdo:

[GEN III]

front looks like a riced version of a VW GTi.

Thats a shithouse effort. FG FPV looks shit with the raccoon eyes, but would have my money over that HSV POS any day.

[Vulture]

Fark I hope those pics turn out to be fake. That is revolting and :limpy: :weirdo:

There is no way I'd be turning in my S1 GTS for one of those abominations!

[RICECOOKER]

http://www.pavle.com.au/53/2010-hsv-e2-series-details/


dunno if they are real but looks like rice to me

[steve_t]

Yeah, looks like the front had a baby with an Evo front bar.
And choosing between a 317kw 6.2L LS3 V8 or a 320kw 6.2L LS3 V8??? WTF?
I'm getting a strong reading on the :bsmeter:
Well, I hope so anyway

[lowriding]

http://www.pavle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2010_hsv_gts_pavle.jpg


looks great, love the front shark styling .G8 bonnet is tough. It should be aggressive like that to suit the nature of the car ... not sure about that led light bar above the foglight though . Im willing to bet the car will have more on road presence than the current series .

[Lofty]

Its lost the bee sting aerial aswel.

[UTESRULE]

[QUOTE=steve_t;1562137]Yeah, looks like the front had a baby with an Evo front bar.

ur right there

[Alex81]

wow that's just wrong, and the lower rear bar looks like they copied it off FPV

:eeew:

[Mad4Monaros]

Not a fan of those pictures at all.

Series one looks way better.

Lets hope it's BS.

[steve_t]

Oops... how long til the mods merge this thread with

Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=121542)

[steve_t]

Agree... they took the rear from FPV and the front from an Evo. Chucked a Pontiac bonnet and some Audi style LED strips. That's about it.
As for the choice between a 317kw LS3 or a 320kw LS3.....

[Ghia351]

Can only really decide once it's seen in the flesh and maybe the body kit will look far better in some colours then others. Does seem a little busy however let's be honest, with those led's giving the necessary "look at me" factor it will sell. Plus I assume it avoids the legality of driving with driving lights on. At the end of the day will it "force" buyers to look elsewhere? No.

[lou1]

Well if that's what they have put together, they can keep it. I thought a Senator would replace the Monaro - NOT NOW, based on those pictures.
Front and back look hideous. Far too messy and just doesn't blend. Not for me.

[GEN III]

Can't wait to get behind a wheel of a G6E now. Has to be the sexiest Australian made car in production at the moment. Love my Holden's but the VE is a joke, and HSV has just taken it to the next level. :serenade:

[NODDY347]

HSV what are you thinking, going off those pics i woud be looking at an FPV offering. I know some are saying wait till some proper pics surface but i fear that will only make things worse not better.:limpy:

Busy, messy EVO front and just plain ugly rearend.:spew::spew:

[Uncle Tone]

http://www.pavle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2010_hsv_gts_pavle.jpg

I love it. I'll bet it looks fantastic in the flesh.

[NODDY347]

Can't wait to get behind a wheel of a G6E now. Has to be the sexiest Australian made car in production at the moment. Love my Holden's but the VE is a joke, and HSV has just taken it to the next level. :serenade:

I tend to agree, the fg g6e is one classy looking car. Hopefully the ve upgrade won't look anything like the HSV upgrades.

[Pickles]

I don't think they're the real deal, & I don't like them at all, particularly the front & rear bars.
Cheers, Pickles.

[sheeks84]

That is a truly horrid looking car. What are they smoking down at Clayton???

[gasguz]

http://www.pavle.com.au/53/2010-hsv-e2-series-details/


dunno if they are real but looks like rice to me

That is probably the ugliest HSV that i have ever seen in my life. Hope this is not the new look & someone is just taking the piss.

Launch control would be good though.

Cheers

[HSVQUE]

YUK! :spew:

[Vulture]

. Im willing to bet the car will have more on road presence than the current series .

Yes, at the expense of actually looking any good. An AU falcon has road presence.

The more I look at those pics more the more I am convinced they cannot possibly be true. It is just too blinged up for HSV. It Might look good to a 15year old but not to those of us with the cash to actually buy one. Someone is having a laugh at us right now for thinking these pics are genuine.

[pelagonia_ss]

I love it !

[vysandman]

Can't wait to get behind a wheel of a G6E now. Has to be the sexiest Australian made car in production at the moment. Love my Holden's but the VE is a joke, and HSV has just taken it to the next level. :serenade:

You'll be sorry. I made the mistake of switching to the new FG.
Although I think the VE is not quite right in design, the basics are there for improvement on future models (They will still have to improve though).
The FG already looks dated. The engine (Turbo) and gearbox (Auto) are great, performance is very good but unfortunately that's where it ends. Uncomfortable seats, poor leather quality (I ordered leather but I think someone ticked the cheesy vinyl box instead), fiddley dash operation and several warranty issues make this my worst car purchase ever. I would normally clock up about 40-50,000 km a year, this car is 12 months old and I've only done 13,000km. I'd rather drive my little VW Caddy work van.
Good luck with your purchase though.

[jono_xuv53]

those pics have to be fake, they wouldnt be like that, and why would the background be blurred unless it is a photoshop of a current model, and to have a W427 type front on the tourer, nah cant be

[VY18s]

Looks like a Lancer. IMO

I hope those pics aren't real. I would die if HSV actually released something that.

[iloveholden]

Lets hope thats bullshit :weirdo:

[iloveholden]

Im really hoping they are fakes :p

[offshore]

Yeah thats pretty ugly hope its not like that lol

[nikola]

Oh dear. Nostril holes, daytime running lights, gills at the back, fake venturi tunnel, etc. Way, way too fussy. Do they have some new stylist straight out of high school or something?

[pelagonia_ss]

Looks very European

[macca33]

Umm....:spew: No my cuppa tea - the 1st incarnation of the E-series was bad enough...:hide:

[GTS221]

looks shit

[offshore]

Looks like its been designd by teenagers which is probably not that far from the truth if they have a young design team

[Black VZ clubby]

great , much better then 1st e series never liked the e clubbies the vz models thoughout has always be the best (my opinion)
cheers

[cashie]

I don't mind it... would need to see it in the flesh though!!

[Darkrayne]

I agree those above images look terrible... Would be nice if HSV acutally had input from the hsv community in what improvements should happen... Looks very ricey... SSV FTW :)

[MTC]

Horrid I Hate it :spew:

[NickS]

I sure hope the Senator & the Grange are a little more tasteful ... that looks like a 90's CSV ... horrendous.

:bawl:

Seriously ... does the HSV design department employ anyone over 16 ? ... and do they realise the average age / demographic of their buyers ? More AMG / M Class and less RICE would be a great start.

[jono_xuv53]

says only senator signature gets W427 brakes, why wouldnt the GTS the most sports orientated model in their range not also get the larger brakes?

[TommyVTss]

thats terrible,

looks very ricey IMO

tom

[Black AH CDX]

Well if that's what they have put together, they can keep it. I thought a Senator would replace the Monaro - NOT NOW, based on those pictures.
Front and back look hideous. Far too messy and just doesn't blend. Not for me.

well considering these pictures are not of a Senator I think you're jumping the gun. The Senator is always a lot more subtle than the Clubsport or GTS.

So I say you untwist your knickers and take a bex hand have a lay down and wait for pictures of the Senator are out:p

[iloveholden]

Another reason why i think its fake is because the car is still sporting old rims!

If HSV were taking photos to show off a new model, the car would most likely be sporting the new rim designs :werd:

[vecommo]

Settle down people, that doesn't look bad at all, I think it actually looks quite good. The quality of those pics is quite poor and I expect it to look far better in the flesh. This always happens when a new model is released, everyone says its ugly then a few months down the track when it grows on you everyone raves about it.
Credit to HSV for bringing out a range with tough and menacing looks which is significantly different to mainstream Holden models, unlike FPV whose cars look like nothing more than tarted up XR6's.

[zorro]

http://www.pavle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2010_hsv_gts_pavle.jpg


looks great, love the front shark styling .G8 bonnet is tough. It should be aggressive like that to suit the nature of the car ... not sure about that led light bar above the foglight though . Im willing to bet the car will have more on road presence than the current series .

sorry to offend but the new bumper looks like a modified FPV one.... :weirdo:

[Excellent]

Another reason why i think its fake is because the car is still sporting old rims!

If HSV were taking photos to show off a new model, the car would most likely be sporting the new rim designs :werd:

Mate I hope you're right because I don't like the look of that car. Normally, I love the look of HSVs but this is the first HSV with looks that scare me!

[sheeks84]

It looks a lot like the front end of the VXR Astra. Not really prertty.

[macca33]

sorry to offend but the new bumper looks like a modified FPV one.... :weirdo:
And so does the rear bar - FPV, or Camry Sportivo???

[windsorace]

I agree with VECOMMO!:wave:

[smokey777]

not trying to insult anyone but the HSVs just keep getting to "out there" on looks. the main reason i wont buy one

[offshore]

the rear bar with those slots is the worse followed by the silly bonnet scoops and whats happening with the double side skirt look haha

[james33]

Looks like they are the genuine pictures:hmmm:.These ones were taken Tuesday.:hide:



http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/clubsport1.jpg

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2.jpg

[offshore]

whats the go with the dodgy blured UFO look photos haha

[demondan]

Settle down people, that doesn't look bad at all, I think it actually looks quite good. The quality of those pics is quite poor and I expect it to look far better in the flesh. This always happens when a new model is released, everyone says its ugly then a few months down the track when it grows on you everyone raves about it.
Credit to HSV for bringing out a range with tough and menacing looks which is significantly different to mainstream Holden models, unlike FPV whose cars look like nothing more than tarted up XR6's.

Kept an eye on this thread just waiting for the the obvious defence of a Holden badged product and typical Ford dip from Captain Predictable.
It would be amusing to get hold of some cgi pics of the next all new Falcon, photoshop them with some Holden badges and post them here and wait for VE Commo to take the bait. He'd say how good it looks then the amusing backflip once the thruth was revealed. I know I'm a so called troll but at least I can admit that the VE Calais in black with the optional factory SuperSport 20's is still a good looking car a couple of years after release. Could VE Commo admit there's one model even mildly good to look at in the Falcon range, probably not even though even the most one eyed Holden fan if hard pressed would.

[jono_xuv53]

Looks like they are the genuine pictures:hmmm:.These ones were taken Tuesday.:hide:



http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/clubsport1.jpg

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2.jpg

these pictures at least the first one shows that the rear is the same as the "cgi" that were posted previously and that it actually is real.

[PSI 364]

The senator pic looks to confirm the LED drive lights in the front bumper as well.

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2.jpg

[sjhugh]

I’m a big HSV fan but I can’t say I like anything about it. Hopefully it’s the poor quality photos. Those LED strips look like an Audi wannabe kit purchased cheap from the local auto accessories store. I’ve seen photos of cars that have aftermarket kits where the owners have done a better job incorporating them into the headlights. The front bar appears to have been pushed out a sizeable way to follow the pointy nose line of the Pontiac bonnet, my personal taste is for a flatter front bar like the SSV. The cheap fix of using two strips to fill in the recesses at the front of bonnet is made worst when you know the bonnets have been sourced cheap from a discontinued line and not purpose designed for the car. There is not a single thing I can say nice about the rear bar and why take away the option of owners changing exhaust tips to suit their own tastes if they don’t like the look of the Camry ones. It looks as though it would require bar modification to fit 3” round outlets.

With a bit of luck the Senator may look a look better, especially if it’s not hamstrung by a bonnet that doesn’t suit the car. There’s nothing wrong with twin nostril bonnets but one that's designed for the car would be better.

Still I’ll wait to see the real thing before I feel dejected.

[vecommo]

Looks like they are the genuine pictures:hmmm:.These ones were taken Tuesday.:hide:



http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/clubsport1.jpg

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2.jpg

Those pics don't look right at all. It looks as though the car was pasted into the photo. Why is everyting blurry except the car itself?

[Ghosn]

The pics look pretty legit to me. I can't see those pics as being photochops by some random. Not a fan to say the least.

Having said that. I wasn't so sure at first if I should wait and see or pick up a current series GTS but I'm a lot happier now about picking up a brand new GTS at a bargain price instead of waiting for the new ones and paying full price.

[troytroy]

I don't mind the front end - it looks aggressive..but would have to see it in the flesh to see how well executed it is. The rear looks farked. The Tourer black out also looks shite.

[QIKMIK]

I hope they don't screw up the Senator too much. I am a big fan of the current one and am looking forward to getting a secondhand variant of next years model in about 3 years time. The local HSV dealer told me about 6 months ago that if I liked the current VE then I would LOVE the new one. I hope he was right. I guess I'll have to see one in the flesh to be sure.

Mick

[planetdavo]

There are four certainties in life.
1- Birth
2- Death
3- Taxes
4- Forums being negative
I'll wait until I see E2 in the flesh and on the road, but over the last 20 years, one thing I've noticed every time a new Commodore variant comes out is that numerous people bag the sh!t out of it.
Interestingly though, many of these updates often end up making the previous one suddenly look dated after only a few months....:teach:

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

I dont doubt you are wright davo BUT on the first sitting it doesn't EXCITE as much as the E1 ??

[Avalanche]

I call BS, those bonnet scoops are monaro, not pontiac scoops . I can hardly see HSV going backwards like that.:bs:

[pelagonia_ss]

All you guys hating it now are going to love it when it comes out. LOL

[vecommo]

I remember when both the VE and E-series HSV first came out, people were bagging the crap out of it and saying they would never buy one. Look at how many people here now own one and love them.

[ti0350]

Not going to make any comments until I see some decent pics or see them in the flesh those pics are crap..

[cashie]

I call BS, those bonnet scoops are monaro, not pontiac scoops . I can hardly see HSV going backwards like that.:bs:

Look nothing like the Monaro scoops..

These look much the same to me:

http://www.pavle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2010_hsv_gts_pavle.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron2.jpg

[PaulM]

Those pics don't look right at all. It looks as though the car was pasted into the photo. Why is everyting blurry except the car itself?

I'd say it's to conceal the location of the photos.

The person who took the photo may have been contracted to do photography or whatever work on the car, or it could be a friend of a person who had access to the cars...

It's much the same with the first photos I linked to. They have obviously been blurred so nobody gets in trouble over leaking them...

That's my take on it anyway.

[FatBoy]

Fark, that's ugly...

I love the current VE GTS look - maybe they'll end up being remembered as HSV's best effort. Because that updated one is horrendous !

[vecommo]

I'd say it's to conceal the location of the photos.

The person who took the photo may have been contracted to do photography or whatever work on the car, or it could be a friend of a person who had access to the cars...

It's much the same with the first photos I linked to. They have obviously been blurred so nobody gets in trouble over leaking them...

That's my take on it anyway.

Well if thats the case they haven't done a very good job.

[r00lerz]

Maybe they were leaked on purpose to gauge reactions.

From what i've seen so far most seem to agree they're :spew:

[bouka]

My initial reaction was not positive but i will reserve my judgement until i see one in the flesh.

The photos may not be doing the car any justice (i really want to believe this).

Looking forward to seeing the Senator.

[NODDY347]

Maybe they were leaked on purpose to gauge reactions.

From what i've seen so far most seem to agree they're :spew:

Possibly but even if these are leaked for testing the water I doubt they would make running changes to major things like front and rear bars if leaked pics aren't received well. Just too expensive to change things like that once their approved.

For me E1 looked great from the get go, this doesn't.

[HSV640]

Well, if they are legit, I'm glad I didn't wait for series 2 and bought series 1. Hopefully that's not the best the boys at HSV can come up with.

Cheers:spew:

[Uwish]

I like the E1 more.
But pictures never do a car justice. so I will wait!

[calais190]

I'm not convinced this is the real deal. Photos look CGI. Especially the pictures of the Clubsport Wagon in red, the front bar is W427 painted with the black down the centre, which looks drawn on via photoshop. I hope it's going to look better than these photos... The plus side is E2 makes E1 more affordable and if it looks better, second hand car buyers are laughing!

[Carby]

The front is very messy looking, with a mix of 3 different vehicle styles, first thoughts are that it quite ugly but I'll wait until I see one on the road before casting final judgement.

[BadMac]

Don't make me go back to the old thread and copy in all the names of the people who posted they were very dissapointed following the posting of this very early Clubsport spy shot in July 2006 (including ME!). It turned out to be the real car but the lighting was so bad it made the car look crap and I bought one almost as soon as they launched.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/BadMac/24Jul20062025042.jpg

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

Possibly but even if these are leaked for testing the water I doubt they would make running changes to major things like front and rear bars if leaked pics aren't received well. Just too expensive to change things like that once their approved.

For me E1 looked great from the get go, this doesn't.

yes i agree the first photo shop i saw of a E 1 maloo i put my vy up for sale and ordered it WITHOUT seeing the real thing although i had seen the gts in the flesh i was a bit diapointed with the PLASTIC sail plain and hard lid they made it look a bit boxy BUT over all i liked it not so with the E2

[CharlieDontSurf]

Looks like they are the genuine pictures:hmmm:.These ones were taken Tuesday.:hide:



http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/clubsport1.jpg

http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2.jpg

Anyone else spot that the senator shot doesnt have bonnet scoops but does have the daytime running led's on the front bar. It also hase some tape around the indicator lamps on the front lights
Hopefully doesnt have the finns on the back bar either.

These are clearly not CGI's although I agree the tourer shot blacked out bit looks strange and farked

[steve_t]

So basically, it's a new front, new back and new wheels? That makes the other shots look even less likely to be real. No pontiac bonnet on the ones posted by James33. And why would they bother covering the wheels if they're just gonna be the same old Pentagons??
I guess we'll see soon

[AndrewR8]

My god, what are they thinking???? :spew:

The front looks disgusting, elements of the VX SS in the lower bar, and way too much going on, the front looks messy and ricer style. Don't even get me started on the rear, bit Aurion TRD and not very HSV.

And if that strip is led lights, pull the f**kn things off, too much of an Audi rip off.

Glad I have the original E Series! Won't be upgrading that's certain!

[falcom]

May not be the EXACT car.

See here : http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=64862&vf=2

[.:ttls1:.]

personaly think that this is just a kitted up ve that has been done by some one in usa. its to complicated to be a genuine hsv they have never had a bodykit with so many different mods from a factory car and imo its a wank tryhard that looks no good sort of like all those monkey kits.....

[boyley]

May not be the EXACT car.

See here : http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=64862&vf=2

There you go hey, got a feeling there's a mole in the camp at HSV:bawl:

[Excellent]

May not be the EXACT car.

See here : http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=64862&vf=2

Should I be saying thank God at this point?

I hope the real deal is just as attractive and aggressive as the first series.

[UTESRULE]

[QUOTE=r00lerz;1562777]Maybe they were leaked on purpose to gauge reactions.

]

^^^^^ back to the drawing board for them ha ha

[lowriding]

well i hope they are still as aggressive in design if they are not the final product ....where did these photos come from ...will caradvice.com.au spill the beans again..?

[V8BEER]

new R8 in post 81 looks bloody awful, prices for older models shouldnt be hurt by such a fugly looking car:spew::spew:

[james33]

2 more pictures from out the front of the photo shoot Tuesday.:)
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/senator2-1.jpg
http://i579.photobucket.com/albums/ss238/jame33/clubsport2.jpg

[steve_t]

So they will use the pontiac bonnets. Hmm... I wonder if many will try to swap back to the E1 bonnets.
That teaser on the Area E2 site is pretty lame.
And so those pics were generated by HSV! You'd think they'd have better quality chops

[V28VX37]

Hi all,

I know I'm biased and probably going to get in trouble for posting this, but the leaked HSV E2 photos yet again reminded me of what the V2 Monaro does not have (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=85421):


(See original thread) (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=85421)

I've been thinking about car design language for a while now, watching the never ending stream of new car models being released.

I started pondering on what the original V2 Monaro design does not have (click to access full size image):

http://inlinethumb18.webshots.com/23761/2273477310102364341S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2273477310102364341BEbAOk)

...


Does anyone else think that in 10 years time we might get a little chuckle thinking back to all the scoops and vents and diffusers of today's cars?

:hide:

[CharlieDontSurf]

goauto are reprorting the new range may also have flappy paddle auto gearbox from the corvette

[mustanger]

goauto are reprorting the new range may also have flappy paddle auto gearbox from the corvette

:goodjob: That will match the flappy gearbox:lol::lol::jester:

[blowski]

Watched the MYHSV website today, feature video with garth tander quotes "watch out for the new model its going to be alot quicker from 0-100" so i assume that the 3kw gain talked about in that article with the picks 317 to 320 is a lie.

He also talks about it being quicker around the track by 2 to 3 seconds over the past model so maybe their is more than we think? Engine wise that is, im bloody glad i got an E1 at this stage

[Coupe60]

Watched the MYHSV website today, feature video with garth tander quotes "watch out for the new model its going to be alot quicker from 0-100" so i assume that the 3kw gain talked about in that article with the picks 317 to 320 is a lie.

He also talks about it being quicker around the track by 2 to 3 seconds over the past model so maybe their is more than we think? Engine wise that is, im bloody glad i got an E1 at this stage

Much has been said about the HSV E2 leaked pictures (fakes and ugly ones at that) which seem like a pretty bad insult to HSV I reckon. I notice a letter by Phil Harding (HSV) below. I especially like the second last paragraph.

http://www.hsv.com.au/areaE2/images/letter_PH_full.jpg

[SV805]

Much has been said about the HSV E2 leaked pictures (fakes and ugly ones at that) which seem like a pretty bad insult to HSV I reckon. I notice a letter by Phil Harding (HSV) below. I especially like the second last paragraph.

http://www.hsv.com.au/areaE2/images/letter_PH_full.jpg

Is thre any chance that rumor of a 2 to 3 seconds quicker and Phil Harding in his second last line states "people will be BLOWN away" that they can sneak a super charger into the HSV ?

[Big_Valven]

A lot of people really don't learn from speculative threads like this do they?

I can't wait for the backflips and retractions of outrageous expectations to be withdrawn on the 9th... makes me chuckle thinking back to every other thread like this in existence...

[Vulture]

They've probably been leaked by HSV themselves to put us off the track. At least I hope so...

[gmack]

I hope so to. They look like some sort of C2R kit or something.:spew:

[255-LS1]

Hi all,

I know I'm biased and probably going to get in trouble for posting this, but the leaked HSV E2 photos yet again reminded me of what the V2 Monaro does not have (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=85421):

Does anyone else think that in 10 years time we might get a little chuckle thinking back to all the scoops and vents and diffusers of today's cars?

:hide:

just thinking about that with all this scoop vent business, the V2 has none of that yet it still looks so bloody good, a real top job by holden on the one. :bow:

[Excellent]

Watched the MYHSV website today, feature video with garth tander quotes "watch out for the new model its going to be alot quicker from 0-100" so i assume that the 3kw gain talked about in that article with the picks 317 to 320 is a lie.

He also talks about it being quicker around the track by 2 to 3 seconds over the past model so maybe their is more than we think? Engine wise that is, im bloody glad i got an E1 at this stage

Launch control and paddle shift?

[sparkplug]

The pics in post#81 just look like someone has photo shopped a VX and VE together. LOL

[Coupe60]

Is thre any chance that rumor of a 2 to 3 seconds quicker and Phil Harding in his second last line states "people will be BLOWN away" that they can sneak a super charger into the HSV ?

lol yeh maybe although i wasnt taking it THAT literally.

[Vulture]

Paddle shift on an auto with a torque converter wouldn't make me erect.

[Bollocks]

9/09/09

a good day to announce the addition of the LS9 engine...

:eek:

[elv]

cant wait to drive one of these wooooooo

[Jarhead]

Watched the MYHSV website today, feature video with garth tander quotes "watch out for the new model its going to be alot quicker from 0-100" so i assume that the 3kw gain talked about in that article with the picks 317 to 320 is a lie.

He also talks about it being quicker around the track by 2 to 3 seconds over the past model so maybe their is more than we think? Engine wise that is, im bloody glad i got an E1 at this stage

Mate the thing would need an extra 50hp to gain 2 sec/lap. If weights are almost equal and brake performance is on par there is no way it will be 2-3 sec quicker. I rememeber FPV F6 supposedly being 6 sec quicker a lap over BF. Turned out to be complete BS.

Just as a quick comparo - BF F6 was 270 and the FG has 310kw. Even with all the advances in suspension and chassis (brakes/weight identical) the FG is only a fraction of a sec quicker.

The one thing that may be true is the 0-100km times being quicker. With LC and 320kw? Prob 330 IMHO - the S2 should be under 5 sec.

As far as styling - I'm glas I own a s1.

Final word on authenticity of photo's - they aren't fakes and they definitely aren't CGI/photoshop

[troytroy]

HSV Marketing will be rubbing their hands together.

This thread has generated at least 15 pages.

The fact that we're talking about it. other people are speculating about it - Marketing wins.

[mustanger]

HSV Marketing will be rubbing their hands together.

This thread has generated at least 15 pages.

The fact that we're talking about it. other people are speculating about it - Marketing wins.

It doesn`t mean we are going to buy it :hide:

[Ghosn]

HSV Marketing will be rubbing their hands together.

This thread has generated at least 15 pages.

The fact that we're talking about it. other people are speculating about it - Marketing wins.

Even tho the majority is negative? :confused:

A bit like the 20th anniversary clubsport? I wonder how many of us rushed out and picked up one of those :rofl:


EDIT: Mmm, think it's time to change my Avatar! boo

[planetdavo]

Even tho the majority is negative? :confused:

Just makes it a normal day on this forum then....:bawl:

[Holden Man]

Actually I think it will look alot better in the metal than what the dodgy phone cam pics show.

I've spent the last 20mins mucking around with a mock-up using the new design elements (I might spend some time on the chop and do it properly, front version aswell).

I like how they have filled in the bottom parts of the bumpers to blend more with the wheel flares (makes it look wider/fatter)

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/e2chop.jpg

[White Rider]

Well if u think about it, grip is whats limiting these cars, so unless they have done a massive weight reduction, the only change they could do is....

AWD

[Lemon]

This must be one tightly held secret, not a decent image of a car and we are only a month or two away from release.

These guys are doing well at keeping things under raps.

[Ryzz]

This must be one tightly held secret, not a decent image of a car and we are only a month or two away from release.

These guys are doing well at keeping things under raps.

Bit under a month, reveal date is 9/9/09.

[Brandonsdad]

Even tho the majority is negative? :confused:

A bit like the 20th anniversary clubsport? I wonder how many of us rushed out and picked up one of those :rofl:


EDIT: Mmm, think it's time to change my Avatar! boo

Why would you change your avatar just because your team wont be in the finals.

I couldnt care, finals or not, I support my team when theyre on top or down the bottom, which has been quite a bit lately.

Its not good for the ego, but who cares.

As for the E2, people always bag something new and when it finally hits the market they rush out and put deposits down for them just to be the first to get the latest HSV. Damn I wish I could too.

[Holden Man]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/VE2rear.jpg

[CLUBRED]

^^ Unless its an Aussie mule, thats not legit as its missing the rear fog light required in EU.

[Holden Man]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/VE2rearBL.jpg

[NRD80Y]

That's an awesome chop there Holden Man. I don't like the design at all (HSV's fault, not yours) but you're really getting the realism of that bar spot on :goodjob:

[Evman]

Great chop Holden Man but I really hope it looks nothing like that :(

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

HAY
mate
way dont you design a nice bar while your at it :goodjob:

[Holden Man]

Try to guess which cars they are off ? (clue : german) :nyuk:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6411/43603836.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7784/26457470.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/1517/23452791.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8426/23241294.jpg

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7427/36913572.jpg

[VT_Lance]

[QUOTE=Holden Man;1569613]Try to guess which cars they are off ? (clue : german) :nyuk:

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/6411/43603836.jpg

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8426/23241294.jpg

these two look the goods :bow:

[bouka]

M3, C63, Audi TTRS and some others.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

no 2/ and no 4 / look good

[Mikey]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7784/26457470.jpg

This one for me. I also love the lowered taillight position on the second to bottom one as well, reminds me of F1. Also Holden man, maybe a vent similar to the VY-VZ on the rear flanks of the bar are still in order, but without the ugly grill styling though. These are big bars and probably still need some cosmetics to hide the over all size of them. I like the way that the bar seems stay pumped at the flare so maybe a vent can be scalloped into this position.

Either way they all look better than the original chop (once again,:goodjob: Holden man) and I for one also hope it is nothing like what HSV have done.

[Holden Man]

M3, C63, Audi TTRS and some others.

Check out the brains on Bouka ! :bow: (PulpFiction reference!)

All right so far.

[bouka]

M5 as well.

[Mikey]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/VE2rear.jpgHolden Man, could you please change the tips to match the angled shaped outlet? I think this is a little closer ;)

[Holden Man]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/VE2AngledTips.jpg

[planetdavo]

Does anyone here know as to what level Ford fans slagged off the FG "eye patches" upon first sighting over their forums?
I heard plenty did, then when they saw the cars in the metal, they (mostly) loved them!
Can see the same happening here...:hide:

[Curtis-R]

http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc310/HoldenMan_2007/VE2AngledTips.jpg

ooooh a Camrydore :lol:

[Vulture]

Second teaser video has been released.
Doesn't show a thing...

[Old Lion]

The HSV publicity departments big budget promos have just added some
new names to their secret agent ranks :rofl:( Davisson , Murphy , Reynolds and Leanne Tander ) . The cat is being kept tightly in the bag .

http://www.hsv.com.au/areaE2/

Cheers Old Lion

[R8tourer]

Wow... those videos are terrible. I've seen people in primary school make better quality movies and HSV Is suppose to be a premium/luxury type of car dealer?

[HSVDKB]

Wow... those videos are terrible. I've seen people in primary school make better quality movies and HSV Is suppose to be a premium/luxury type of car dealer?

Agree, I guess that are supposed to build up some sort of expectation. I just find them amateurish and annoying

[R8tourer]

I actually felt embarrassed watching them :|

[blowski]

Here you go lads... Dont say i dont do anything for you...

Straight off the HSV Owners website, the video that has not been released to the public only HSV owners, screenshots below. Pay attention to the following.

1. The new exhuast very similar to the one already posted
2. High flow intermitiate exhuast system
3. Confirmed LS3 6.2LT (sorry ls9 freaks)
4. notice it says 330kw beside engine number, sorry if you cant see this mine was clear before the screen shots
5. has 2 more safety thingys (already esp and traction as you can see the last 2, but dont know what the other 2 are)
6. new little flag logo for the gts
7. looks like the vented pontiac bonnet may not be on like veryones expecting, cant see any humps in the face on vid and the nostrols look like the same from the slight side shot shown?
8. no led light bar (sorry audi freaks)
8. tail lights to stay the same!

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z274/blowskisarecool/hsv4.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z274/blowskisarecool/hsv2.jpg

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z274/blowskisarecool/HSV3.jpg

[Old Lion]

Imagine how the drivers feel !
Gt,s was bad enough as a once off , but then to subject us and them to
a lame spoof of Men in Black is corny to say the least .
But if the E2 is as good as they claim , all will be forgiven.


Until the E3 promos AGGHHH

Cheers Old Lion

[Ryzz]

In talking with the HSV Media/PR Guy, ive been assured that when the E2 is seen in the flesh, there will be no debating the looks. I have no grounds for this statement but he was adamant on this point.

[Old Lion]

Backstage pass here everyone ( thanks Blowski )

http://myhsv.com.au/myHSV/flash/area_e2/35clip.swf

Cheers

Old Lion

[mitch_vuss]

the new gts;s look sooo daym tuff. love em

[Deco28]

HUD Possibly as a safety feature?

Getting excited, but at the same time, feel like spewing over the Videos....

[`redoctober]

I'm not really looking forward to a new model style upgrade as it makes all of our cars look older! :lol:

[korrupt]

"Unique sheetmetal incorporating shockwave graphic". Sounds ... interesting. I'm tipping the GTS will get the same launch control as the new Corvette.

[Deco28]

http://www.hsv.com.au/multimedia/video.asp?series=Area E2&carName=3D Tease&pageHeading=3DTease&category=3DTease&videoURL=3DTease/3DTease/3DTease&folderName=3DTease&numberListed=&link1pageHeading=3DTease&link1folderName=3DTease&

The tease vid is on HSV site now.

[Mikey]

7. looks like the vented pontiac bonnet may not be on like veryones expecting, cant see any humps in the face on vid and the nostrols look like the same from the slight side shot shown?I have watched it over and over and I am convinced that the bonnet has been doctored, especially if you look at the nostril grill. I know that HSV has always filled this in across the top but if you look carefully, this strip does not match the bonnet properly. I think that the high butterfly Pontiac shape may appear here.

Also I happened to run into someone involved on the line last week, (I know my mates cousins brothers cleaner etc.) and he seems to be in a position to tell me that all of the lower spec HSV cars up to GTS will get the Pontiac bonnet. It appears that Senator and Grange will not.

[_MetalliX_]

Any idea on what the "shockwave graphic" is?

[calais190]

Personally, i think we (holden and hsv fans) have nothing to worry about. All HSVs have looked tough respective to the commodore, none of which have ever looked bad. From VT through to VZ, the models appearances only got better and better, with tougher wider mouthed kits being fitted to the same chasis. The VE looks fantastic and the E series HSVs are stunning. HSVs aim to make it look even tougher in E2, I think they'll have no problems doing so. My 2c.

[teamkiwi]

7. looks like the vented pontiac bonnet may not be on like veryones expecting, cant see any humps in the face on vid and the nostrols look like the same from the slight side shot shown?
8. no led light bar (sorry audi freaks)


If you look closer at the front shots, it looks as though it does get the bonnet treatment, also with the final shot at the end, is it LED light we see highlighting beneath the E2 logo?

[CLUBRED]

Had a dream last night the fronts were very Audi-ish with the big open mesh look...

http://germancars.everythingaboutgermany.com/Pictures/audi-RS6.jpg

[OFDHZY]

If only HSV took the same styling ques.... understated powerhouse...

[iloveholden]

I'm kind of excited now haha

The only thing that worries me is that rear end bumber design with those crappy shaped exhaust pipes, i prefer the the round quads tbh.

[sszkid]

I work just down the road from HSV/Holden, just seen a Guy out the front painting a shipping container with a big E2 logo. Cant wait to see them in the flesh.

[falcom]

I wonder if HSV purposely let those images(not the exact E2) out on purpose so that they could move E1 stock.

Then when they release the real E2 and everybody is releaved that they look fantastic in the flesh they move plenty of E2 stock.

A win win for HSV.(Clever marketing again)