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seedyrom

04-07-2009, 12:56 PM

Exactly

"I bet Mark Skaife wouldn't yell" was the cry.

Being Australia's best Holden forum I thought I'd ask, surely he visits. Or atleast someone who knows him well does.

I don't see how "foot off the clutch, foot off the clutch ... foot of the clutch" equates to yelling, but anyway.

Willing to pay $50/hour Mark. You know you want to :eyes: $$$$$

The learner car is a 35 year old Beemer and is extremely forgiving.

Apparently my smoke show in the street was proving I was a dickhead, not proving the ability of the clutch and how it works. Weird. :confused:

M1SSV8

04-07-2009, 01:01 PM

seems its the teacher and not the student thats the problem.. :1peek:

CarlFST60L

04-07-2009, 01:03 PM

:lol: He's tied on V8 extra right now, but im sure he will be onto your generous offer of $50ph straight after

Teach her to take off only using the clutch, no throttle. Great way to learn to understand the friction point.

VESSV316

04-07-2009, 01:05 PM

whats wrong with LIMITER LIMITER LIMITER dump Clutch :driving:

iloveholden

04-07-2009, 01:08 PM

^^^ :lmao: classic

pagey

04-07-2009, 02:42 PM

Look.. a woman driving a car - should we follow her and make a sexy time :1peek:

wikky

04-07-2009, 03:27 PM

Look.. a woman driving a car - should we follow her and make a sexy time :1peek:

:rofl::lmao::lmao::lmao:

HSVREDSLED

04-07-2009, 03:57 PM

Teach her to take off only using the clutch, no throttle. Great way to learn to understand the friction point.

Good tip. Find a slightly downhill road in an industrial area and get your better half to gently ease out the clutch with no gas. Then add a little gas, then more then more.

Better still, get someone else to teach your wife. Women wont listen to husbands or dads because we have no idea of what we are on about. But they will listen to another non related male who will instruct exactly the same thing.

GEN4LS2

04-07-2009, 04:05 PM

BigAl83

04-07-2009, 04:44 PM

On Mark Skaifes behalf, I think he'll need to see some pics before any deals are entered into.
:rofl::jester:

kayman

04-07-2009, 05:38 PM

On Mark Skaifes behalf, I think he'll need to see some pics before any deals are entered into.
:rofl::jester:

BAHAHA GOLD :D

Luke_

04-07-2009, 05:51 PM

Seedy that doesn't sound like you at all!

Skaife called me at work last week I'll let him know about you Daniel.

Regards,
Luke

clubbie

04-07-2009, 06:02 PM

Make this thread a sticky until Skaifey replies.

This thread is going to get good:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

BTW seedy.....you are a bad driving instructor yelling and all at the mrs:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Micks

04-07-2009, 06:11 PM

You just made the biggest mistake you could have ever in your marriage... besides an affair...Do Not try an instruct a learner you are involved with. I instructed my now wife when we were only going with each other & did I cop it in the neck :rofl:

Good luck with it but I don't think you'll get Skaifey that cheap not with what he supposedly owes Tommy.:eyes:

Cheers
VYT

NZSHAKER

04-07-2009, 06:21 PM

seems its the teacher and not the student thats the problem.. :1peek:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Hides...maybe get a AUTO

vlcalais8

04-07-2009, 06:35 PM

my goodness I think teaching a sloth how to perform a 12 hour run would be easier than teaching a women how to drive a manual..... Tried to teach the fiance in the work banger and I think I heard the clutch scream for help, followed by the CV joints and front axels calling 000

planetdavo

04-07-2009, 06:54 PM

I'll see if my people from Holden can get hold of his people in the morning, as long as the other people from Channel 7 don't poo poo the plans, with Townsville coming up in a few days and all.
Might be ok if you can add another zero to the hourly rate perhaps???

hallyoz

04-07-2009, 07:36 PM

Hire a Corolla from Avis for training duties.

VL Executive

04-07-2009, 09:32 PM

Having a similar problem but its my 14 year old neice.

Her and her 12 year old Brother come and stay for a week when the school holidays are on. The last couple of times they have come I have showed them how to drive in a 1982 Mazda diesel ute, and a Series IIA Landrover. We have 10 acres of land for them to drive around on.

The young bloke is doing quite well. His gear changes and takeoffs are good, and can drive good too.

But his sister cant really get the grasp of taking off from standstill properly and downshifting. When she takes off she dumps the clutch most of the time resulting in wheel spinning, and releases the clutch too quick when downshifting, resulting in compression lockups. :rolleyes:

Her bro and I were loading the Mazda with bales of hay. He was on the back of the ute positioning them while I was throwing them up to him. His sis was in charge of moving the ute forward. Anyway, we were putting the last few bales on when she had to move forward. She revved up to 2000 rpm and dumped the clutch, resulting in half a dozen bales falling off as well as her brother nearly falling off with them. :doh:

BossV8

04-07-2009, 11:10 PM

closely followed behind is how to teach a female to read a map

Mungrel

04-07-2009, 11:47 PM

Give her a twin plate in peak hour traffic and tell her it's time to sink or swim :lol:

mustanger

05-07-2009, 12:01 AM

Give her a twin plate in peak hour traffic and tell her it's time to sink or swim :lol:

Just get her a TEX, they all do that :jester::hide:

fatbob

05-07-2009, 01:07 AM

I just taught my wife to drive a manual ( actually still in the process ) - and here's my tips.

Pretend you have a baby in your arms, and if you talk too loud it will wake up, and ruin your life. It feels your vibes, and you need to have good vibes - as if you don't it will wake up, and ruin your life.

Remember the exorcist, or chucky or halloween - if you don't stay calm, cool, passive and speak softly all the time with a smile on your face - then those will seem like happy matinee movies for the kids. Look in the mirror at yourself smiling - then remember what your muscles were doing - then try to maintain that at all times when in the car.

That's how I've been doing it anyways - and its been working.

Actually -. - I just been focussing mainly on 2 things, which have worked really really well .....
engage the clutch --- feel the point of engagement - and trust that she'll work out the rest of it from there for gears
read the road ahead --- other cars, people, bumps, lights -- all that type of stuff - and use the gear best for the road ahead

good luck - hope you make it through it sane

jd biddle

05-07-2009, 01:46 AM

whats wrong with LIMITER LIMITER LIMITER dump Clutch :driving:

thats gold rrrrrrrrrmmmmmm bang let it go thats my advice to

mmciau

05-07-2009, 06:35 AM

whats wrong with LIMITER LIMITER LIMITER dump Clutch :driving:

Or teach her to use a Crash Gearbox out of a post war Pommy Austin or Morris Truck

Taught you the art of throttle synchronisation with road speed because it was easier to upshift/downshift shift not using the clutch on flat terrain. Double De-clutching too.

Or watching a Mack B Series driver at work on a Main Box/Joey Box when shifting a full load.

Mike

Carby650

05-07-2009, 10:47 AM

Seedy.
As a wise man once told me.

Mate do you want to be right or do you want to be happy ?

cheers
Carby650

Holden Man

05-07-2009, 01:11 PM

Can you teach my wife to drive manual?

World War 3 has erupted.

Thanks,
Seedy

Exactly

"I bet Mark Skaife wouldn't yell" was the cry.

Being Australia's best Holden forum I thought I'd ask, surely he visits. Or atleast someone who knows him well does.

I don't see how "foot off the clutch, foot off the clutch ... foot of the clutch" equates to yelling, but anyway.

Willing to pay $50/hour Mark. You know you want to :eyes: $$$$$

The learner car is a 35 year old Beemer and is extremely forgiving.

Apparently my smoke show in the street was proving I was a dickhead, not proving the ability of the clutch and how it works. Weird. :confused:

Look.. a woman driving a car - should we follow her and make a sexy time :1peek:

:rofl::rofl::bow: I havn't laughed so hard in ages ! :goodjob:

Seedy.
As a wise man once told me.

Mate do you want to be right or do you want to be happy ?

cheers
Carby650

So true. :)

I had a similar experience a while back with the 61yo Mother in Law.

She decided it was time to buy her FIRST car and get some independence. I encouraged this as I was generally the person who took her here and there before hand. I helped her buy a Mazda 2 (good car) and also offered to teach her how to drive (easy I thought as it was an auto). First lesson was at a partly built industrial estate, no buildings, nothing to hit, just a nice wide road (and a small dam about 20 metres from the road). Mother in law did well for about 50m then panicked and braked but also accelerated. With both her feet firmly to the floor (brake and accel.), the car slowly crept along at about 10kph while she mounted the kerb and headed for the dam (Why!). "steer left pat, pat steer left, steer left..." Once we got close enough to the dam for me to start sh*ting myself, I decided to reach over and turn the car off.

I ended up buying the car from her and have gone back to doing the driving duties.

I love my mother in law.

VZ_V8

05-07-2009, 01:20 PM

I had a similar experience a while back with the 61yo Mother in Law.

She decided it was time to buy her FIRST car and get some independence. I encouraged this as I was generally the person who took her here and there before hand. I helped her buy a Mazda 2 (good car) and also offered to teach her how to drive (easy I thought as it was an auto). First lesson was at a partly built industrial estate, no buildings, nothing to hit, just a nice wide road (and a small dam about 20 metres from the road). Mother in law did well for about 50m then panicked and braked but also accelerated. With both her feet firmly to the floor (brake and accel.), the car slowly crept along at about 10kph while she mounted the kerb and headed for the dam (Why!). "steer left pat, pat steer left, steer left..." Once we got close enough to the dam for me to start sh*ting myself, I decided to reach over and turn the car off.

I ended up buying the car from her and have gone back to doing the driving duties.

I love my mother in law.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Thats gold!

DR-vyss-108

05-07-2009, 01:28 PM

so glad i dont have to go through this stuff, my girlfriend has driven my tex,but then again she is AUS#3 in KT twins in dirt karts, yes thats including men too :jester:

Belzey

05-07-2009, 10:27 PM

Get another woman to teach her! You will always be wrong/grumpy/psycho no matter how you act while you are teaching her :lol:

DaveHAT

05-07-2009, 10:51 PM

Good advice but a bit too complicated.

Take her and the car to the nearest boatramp.

Park it arse first on the ramp with the wheels about 2mtrs out of the water, pull the hand brake on and get out.

Incentive ... one of the greatest motivators. :goodjob:

ti0350

05-07-2009, 10:52 PM

My missus saw this thread and said if Skaife is giving lessons I should put my name down for them.. Mind you dont know why we own an auto...

VZMY06SS

05-07-2009, 11:10 PM

I've been teaching the girlfriend how to drive my car recently... I feel your pain Seedy. Today after reading this thread I took her to a quiet bit of road and got her to take off in first a few times purely with the clutch. She finally got it right, so we whipped a U-bolt and came up to a T intersection on a quietish road.. I told her to just do what we'd been practicing and let the clutch out slowly with a few rev's. She's like "ok", followed by around a 2500rpm clutch dump that took us out onto the road sideways :bawl::bawl:
Luckily she managed to reel it in with no harm done, but seriously!!!!!
It was only about 30 seconds after we'd finished practicing doing the whole let the clutch out slowly thing...
I wonder if some people are meant to drive manuals... Apparently the tex clutch is too heavy, and the short shifter too hard to change gears with too. :confused:

Steve

TAKEITEZ

05-07-2009, 11:37 PM

i think generally some people can, some people can't...

my girlfriend swears she doesn't have the patience or ability to drive a manual... she wants to learn but knows that she can't do it... she's tried and failed before with family but i'd love to see if she can...

i taught my youngest sister to drive and she got it really quick... had up shifting, down changes, reverse parking, parallel parking, hill starts and the works nailed inside 6 months... was driving fantastic and passed her p's first go...

i think the need to do it drives the desire to learn...

girlfriend was given an auto corolla when she got her licence... parents paid for an auto 323 a couple of years ago which she paid them back for...

sister was given a manual corolla for her 16th birthday and told "that's it... you want something else, buy it yourself"...

sell her auto car and buy her a manual one :)... she'll soon figure it out...

Blown 454 AWD

06-07-2009, 08:20 AM

Wanted my wife to learn to drive a manual as my car then was a manual. (for emergency's only of course) :)

Then I bought here a new car, she was excited as it was here first brand new car, the colour she wanted just happened to be available only in a manual :)

Game Over

Now all my vehicles are auto, hers is still manual.

Now she doesn't want to drive an auto, too boring!!

Cheers

Steve

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ADAM 26

06-07-2009, 08:40 AM

i tryed to teach the missis in the old vx ss. i knew it was impossible but she thought she could do it, so to settle it once and for all i gave her a shot at it. she didnt even get out of the driveway!

big cam, heads, 4.11 with minispool, button clutch vx ss. even i found the thing a hand full at times.

she wants me to teach her how to ride a motor bike now. so the whole clutch thing starts again!

Podge

06-07-2009, 08:44 AM

my missus did a track day last sunday at sandown in her wrx... i'll put her up for sale*

*sale does not include car

zorro

06-07-2009, 09:02 AM

she wants me to teach her how to ride a motor bike now. so the whole clutch thing starts again!

I bought the ex a bike and taught her how to ride. Needless to say after coming off backwards 3 or 4 times she got the idea pretty quickly.

toey

06-07-2009, 09:12 AM

well a few years ago my missus wanted a vw beetle, we found one in centre of sydney so we went and checked it out and bought it. this was to be her car and she had only driven autos and never attempted a manual but her new car was a manual. anyway i drove it the 600km to my parents place where i was staying for work on the saturday and had the sunday to teach her the basics of manual driving as she had to drive 150km back home on her own......sink or swim (mind you this is all country hyways).

so we kept the beetle and she cant see herself owning an auto again. she even drives the ss but wasnt too keen on having a go at the z grip as it took me a bit to master but she has managed.

so it can be done but i dont think its the skill to drive a manual, its getting the confidence to do it properly. one stall or ride or dump and the cofidence drops and its back to square one. key is staying calm and not getting frustrated, cause it is easier to learn in a manual to begin with then to get out of auto habbits

mmciau

06-07-2009, 09:38 AM

My mate was offering a base 1991 KF Ford laser - 5 speed manual, NIL power steering, and no RADIO.

My daughter has her car and she lauds it over her elder brother because he hasn't learned to drive a manual.

However, I have roared at her time and time again for driving with her foot on the clutch pedal!!!!!!!!!!!

(As an analogy, I said to her can she give me about a $grand so I can sit in front of her and tear it up!!!)

Her latest comments are that if she buys a new car it will be a Manual.

Mike

mic

07-07-2009, 12:38 PM

I tought my fiance cos i gave her no choice!!!! We just bought a manual VE SS-V and her auto is already up for sale, she's a quick learner but confidence is the problem. I bought her 1 lesson with LTrent and he said that she didnt need anymore lessons so her confidence was sky high... 9she definately needs plenty more practice at driving smooth tho!)

VXSS346

07-07-2009, 01:14 PM

Hmmm, doesn't look like Mark Skaife uses this forum. :lol:

:toetap:

spinr33

08-07-2009, 09:18 PM

I had my mrs driving my skyline 2 ton race clutch took off okay clunk clunk lol that was fine just highway driving but try to turn off and hill start lol hillarious, 3 people actually saw the L's and drove around us lmfao they looked in saw it was a girl then just drove around us lol, then its like take off slow clutch dump lol funniest thing ever i thought.
To her credit she had a go and by no means was it an easy car to drive took me months to master and still shuddered staled etc at the drop of a hat.
And btw she was 19 on her l's just waiting to get her p's with some manual driving experience so dont say nethign about it being overly dangerours.
Has neone noticed though when they change gears they dont look where their going and drift to left generally.
And also does anyone actually feel sorry for their gearbox when their driving i felt sorry for the absolute bashign the gearbox was about to recieve lol.
Regards Rory

MJR-57T

10-07-2009, 10:16 AM

Mark Skaife's father is a family friend of my ex's parents, they have hi over for BBQ's and regular do's as mark grew up around my area.

Ill put the word out next time i see her and see what the response is :smilesandbanana:

I had my mrs driving my skyline 2 ton race clutch took off okay clunk clunk lol that was fine just highway driving but try to turn off and hill start lol hillarious, 3 people actually saw the L's and drove around us lmfao they looked in saw it was a girl then just drove around us lol, then its like take off slow clutch dump lol funniest thing ever i thought.
To her credit she had a go and by no means was it an easy car to drive took me months to master and still shuddered staled etc at the drop of a hat.
And btw she was 19 on her l's just waiting to get her p's with some manual driving experience so dont say nethign about it being overly dangerours.
Has neone noticed though when they change gears they dont look where their going and drift to left generally.
And also does anyone actually feel sorry for their gearbox when their driving i felt sorry for the absolute bashign the gearbox was about to recieve lol.
Regards Rory

I know how you feel, i tried to teach my recent ex on her l's in my ute.
Got to the point where she stalled it about 8 times at an intersection, got out and walked away with the door open and people trying to get around.
I felt sorry for her but it hard to try and teach somone the feel. Its not like trying to teach someone to use a computer or a tool etc.

She gave up and got her scooter licence instead

bigdogdazza

10-07-2009, 11:12 AM

I have taught numerous people to drive manual and I beleive its much easier with the right type of car to atart with. Try hiring a hilux 4wd deisel, the clutch is light and you can put it into low range to atert with so no chance of stalling and losing confidence. Dont laugh or critisize when mistakes are made just reassure them as its more a confidence thing than ability as if they already can drive its really only getting around the clutch thats any different. Good luck with it.:goodjob:
In all honesty just think back a few years to when you guys ALL had to learn to drive! If you were thrown into a big cammed, z gripped pig of a thing to drive how well do you reckon you would have went? Give em a break and try with an easy car, when mastered the basics then chuck em in the liberty equiped methanol burnin 7 sec monster!
Same as for the bikes, I taught 3 ex girlfriends and my wife to ride all on a dt175, Nice easy bike! Not my 250-500 mx weapons.