traction control/insurance question

[PaddyBoags]

Hey all,

I recently got my vz ss maffless tuned, and noticed that the traction control stopped working. When i got it serviced today the mechanic told me its due to the airflow not being read etc. Now what i want to know is if i have an accident, and for what ever reason the insurance company was to look into it at that level and found my traction control wasn't working properly would they void the claim?? Also is the mechanic correct in sayin that it can't be fixed either maffless or traction control not both??

Thanks
Pat

[Lofty]

Sounds like your mechanic is making shit up take it back to where you got it tuned.

[benniemc]

Australian LS1 and Holden Forums (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=72970)

Check that thread, it may help....

+1 for the mechanic is full of shit! I've never heard of this being an issue with a mafless tune.

[VNV8]

ditto, your mechanic is full of it. take it back to where you got it tuned. maybe try an ECU reset in the interim. I had this ages ago in my SS and it was the very common ABS module fault.

[The_Senator]

you NEED to have an AIT even if you go MAFLESS..

I had my AIT unplug on the weekend (unbeknownst to me!) and my traction control was turning off when i started..

Plugged back in, and Voila.. It all works..

I also got the check engine light one, but that went about an 20 mins after fixing the IAT.

If he/you are not using the IAT from the MAF, then you'll need an new one wired up and connected.

Hope this helps..

PS - is that Harvey in WA Southwest?

[vyssbeast]

what if you have your tc permanently off ... could they deny a claim due to that?

[PaddyBoags]

All sorted spoke to the bloke who did the tuning and it was the way he tuned it. Alot of the talk went straight over my head but from what i can gather when i get some free time next week i'll drop back in and he will alter some of the settings and it will have some traction control again but ye.

Still not sure about the insurance issue, guess like all things any mods you do could potentially void your insurance really.

[350VZ]

My mafless tune didn't affect my traction control at all. On the insurance note, any modification to the vehicle MAY cause a claim to be refused. Fairly unlikely though. I've not had a problem here either. Best of luck.

[CSP]

If the CRASH (no such thing as an "accident" - someone is ALWAYS at fault) is caused by loss of traction and your vehicle has traction control (or ESP etc) fitted and it's disabled at the time of the CRASH, it's extremely likely that IF the insurance company find out about it being disabled, they will void the claim.

[MJR-57T]

If the CRASH (no such thing as an "accident" - someone is ALWAYS at fault) is caused by loss of traction and your vehicle has traction control (or ESP etc) fitted and it's disabled at the time of the CRASH, it's extremely likely that IF the insurance company find out about it being disabled, they will void the claim.

So what if the road suddenly gives way from an undermining river during a flood, or a tree falls onfront of you at 110km/h or a tire blows or you hit a patch of diff oil dropped from a truck or something else totally out of your hands happens.
Is that still a crash, because i'd hate to be accused of causing it as it was an accident.
Better to refer to it an an incident

Regarding the ABS and traction control

There's another thread going around that if you pull the ABS fuse the TC light comes on even in utes not fitted with TC.
I constantly get an ABS fault when i go over a bump around a corner and it only brings up "ABS fault" and doesn't dring up the "trac off" symbol.
Would this mean its a sensor and not the unit its self

[bigdogdazza]

I honestly cant see how an insurance co could knock a claim back if traction control wasnt enable at the time of an incident as its driver option to turn it off with a button and what about the millions of cars produced without the function at all? ABS is a different story as its a part of the braking system all the time and cannot be turned off when desired.

[LS1-5.7]

Insurance companies work with terms like "liability" and "non disclosure" but if you have an "at fault" accident/crash due to traction control not working or being switched off at the time, wouldn't it be time to consider an advanced driving course ?? Traction control was initially developed primarily to increase lap times in formula 1 and NOT to bail out substandard or novice drivers from a situation they should not have been in, in the first place. It's an easy fix in your case and will save tyre life if nothing else :soap:

[Madmik]

Once the car is powered down or that messed up from the crash the trac control turns it self off anyways.

[JET-33]

never had any traction control issues since getting my mafless tune done

i call :bs: on that mechanic

[bpm]

tuner forgot to apply tcs patch when he flashed it.

[Wonky]

My daughter's boyfriend wrote off his Monaro a few years ago, mainly because he had traction control off (long story). The police charged him with dangerous driving and the insurance company wouldn't pay up till the court hearing. If the charge of dangerous driving had stuck they would not pay up - first time I'd ever heard that and something to bear in mind. After waiting almost a year for the court case and with no car in the mean time the bloody policeman dropped the dangerous driving charge on the day of the court case! :mad:

We had said all along there's no way he should have been charged with dangerous driving given the circumstances, stupidity yes!! I'm sure that in his police statement which the insurance company obviously saw it was mentioned that traction control was off, but they weren't concerned about that. It only came down to the dangerous driving charge. Given that the manufacturer provides a button so you have the choice of T/C on or off I don't see how they could not pay up just because you chose to turn it off as the manufacturer allows.