Keep VY II GTS or to sell for W427 [Archive] - Australian LS1 and Holden Forums

mr5point7

11-07-2009, 11:14 PM

Hey all,

I have a VY II GTS Series 2 that I have owned and kept in storage for the past 2 and a bit years. I've searched for this particular vehicle for 18 months and it eventually came up for sale... I searched for it because it was a special build only... Only 20 VY II GTS's were made. I bought it from a close friend who was one of the HSV managing directors at the time.

It had only done 15,000kms when I bought it... since owning it I have only done 3,300kms. Literally a Sunday car that gets turned over and taken for a bit of a spin on the odd occasion. I love this car because essentially no one has one!

I am in half minds to buy a W427 at the moment, but I need some opinions out there.

I won't be an everyday obviously like my current GTS and will rarely been driven. It's just there to enjoy every now and then and appreciate it for what it is.

Current weekend ride:

Year: 2004
Make: VY Series 2
Model: GTS
Engine: C4B
Trans: 6 Speed Manual
Colour: Cosmos
Build Quantity: 20
Factory Options: GPS, Roof Mounted DVD, Sunroof

I guess the special features at the time was 8 setting adjustable Ohlins Suspension and Tyre Pressure Monitor.

My particular pride and joy is 1 of 20 built, 1 of 10 in manual, 1 of 2 in Cosmos and 1 of 1 in terms of the options (Fully optioned) and colour. I have seen the other Cosmos GTS and it didn't have any options fitted.

From VP to VY, HSV had made the GTS special in terms of exra power, different body mouldings, bigger brakes etc. The current day GTS seems to be everywhere and have the same features as the Clubsport - that's my view anyway.

Anyway, I was thinking of the VE GTS, but like I mentioned it seems that everyone has one. I obviously want a rare car and that means the W427.

Year: 2008
Make: VE
Model: W427
Engine: LS7
Trans: 6 Speed Manual
Colour: Black
Build Quantity: 137
Factory Options: GPS, Roof Mounted DVD, Sunroof

I know the pros of owning the W427 being that it's a current shape, has a 7.0L motor and only 137 going to be made... and obviously going to be a joy to drive.

Can you guys give your opinions on whether I should keep my VY II GTS or sell up and buy the W427.

I'll post some pics of my GTS in the 'My Rides' section in the next week or so when I get back from the states. You'll hopefully see how immaculate the car is and not that often you'll see a Cosmos VY II GTS.

mustanger

11-07-2009, 11:19 PM

I take it your VY GTS is a Sedan ?

mr5point7

11-07-2009, 11:24 PM

Yeah, 4 door sedan.

Forgot to mention that!

vyc4b

11-07-2009, 11:24 PM

W427 would be my pick.... the VYGTS sedan is a very special car though.
Cheers.

mustanger

11-07-2009, 11:40 PM

It will all come down to your own preference.

Just because a car is rare , doesn`t automatically mean it will be worth a lot of money down the track . I mean a Lada Niva is rare and is not worth anything:teach:

For a car to be a genuine collectors item in 20/30 years time , it should have some certain claim to fame eg. (Racing History, Limited build, special running gear etc).

Both the VY GTS and W427 are unique cars but the W427 is the Grandaddy of them all.

What you have to ask yourself is , Do you want to spend another, say $100K on top of what you have and get the most powerfull Holden/HSV ever built, or just keep what you have and enjoy it.

DR-vyss-108

11-07-2009, 11:51 PM

keep the vy, please, much more special in my opinion

El Narros

12-07-2009, 12:21 AM

Why have a car like that and not drive it, if its an investment 100k could be better spent else where.

MickmeMate

12-07-2009, 12:33 AM

Keep the VY considering the Km's driving and its as rare as you say definitely a keeper. But the W427 is such a nice car i see your dilema

heavychevy

12-07-2009, 12:56 AM

You 'love this car because essentially no one has one!' ,forget how collectible it maybe in 20 years... does it really excite you?

I can imagine standing there with a bourbon in hand, admiring a W427 in my garage. If you've got the financial horsepower to do it, do it.

With respect, if a VY GTS was next to me in traffic I wouldn't notice it.

Cheers

The Brock

12-07-2009, 03:17 AM

I thought Cosmo was Holden only; is the colour you are referring to called HRT Ultra Violet ??

fx160

12-07-2009, 06:55 AM

BigAl83

12-07-2009, 07:11 AM

I agree with the concensus. The YII GTS is a nice car, but if the finances were there I'd jump into a 427 in a heartbeat. Nice dilemma to have though. :)

FAVSSS

12-07-2009, 08:04 AM

Wish I had this problem.

lowriding

12-07-2009, 08:19 AM

would really like to see the pictures of your VY GTS, sounds ace . The W427 is definately a special car that will be appreciated and more sort after than a VY GTS in the future but obviously will cost you , nice problem to have at the moment though .

Speedy Gonzales

12-07-2009, 08:32 AM

If you are going to the states, test drive a Z06, I wouldnt bother with a W427 when you could have a RHD Z06 at that price, quite a few for sale now.

Pickles

12-07-2009, 08:34 AM

If dollars are not a problem, go for the W427.
Cheers, Pickles.

rgmast

12-07-2009, 09:31 AM

Keep the VY and buy a W427 as well simple :goodjob:

Oldmate83

12-07-2009, 09:43 AM

Are you looking for long term financial gain out of either one of these cars? Is your question which will appreciate more over the next few decades? I ask that seeing as you do very little driving in your current GTS.

If it is, i think the answer is fairly obvious, however even though the W427 is the better choice, it will still do a significant amount of depreciating before it goes back up again (and that's a big IF in itself). Also as someone else said, there are far better investments for $100,000 out there.

If you want the car for you enjoyment, and you can afford it comfortably, again the answer is obvious.

MaDDoG

12-07-2009, 09:54 AM

Park them next to each other and ask yourself "which one do I want and which one will I love the most in 5 years?" You are welcome to use my garage for the comparisons.

They are both great cars. And I agree with you about the GTS. I have lusted after one for so long and now I have one. But it does seem that every corner I go round I see another one.

And please post some pics of the VY......

mr5point7

12-07-2009, 10:06 AM

I am not looking to buy a car to hopefully wait for it to appreciate in the future and make some money... that's just silly in my opinion. I like to buy cars that have very limited build, not many people have and has special features over other cars during that time.

The property and share market sector is the place to let your dollar value appreciate :)

Looking through my documents, the GTS is Ultra Violet and not Cosmos... my mistake. Should have known that...

Why have a car and not drive it? Not being a smart arse, but because there's not many around and because my current situation allows me to do it.

I'll hire a Z06 for two days while I'm over there and see how she goes.

I'll post some shots of the GTS when I come back.

My initial decision was to jump into a VE GTS but I decided not to because everyone has one and gone are the days where the GTS had 6 piston breaks and bigger engine output then the rest of the cars... The current GTS doesn't feel as special as they seem to be inline with the Clubsport... I see more GTS's then Clubsports nowadays.

macca33

12-07-2009, 10:08 AM

Keep the VY and buy a W427 as well simple :goodjob:
I'm with him!

You have to realistically look at what sort of dollar you'll be offered for the Y2 GTS nowadays - the car is at least 5 years old, etc and although immaculate and rare, it won't be priced that way by a wholesaler/car yard trader, or on the private market, where it would simply be considered as a 2004 VY2 GTS. I wouldn't imagine that you'd get what you felt the car was worth and it would be a shame to get rid of it for a low(ish) amount in today's harsh car market.

However, if you could stretch the budget - obviously these are long(ish)term investments/hobbies for you, then get a W427 and have both.

I very much agree with your contention about the current GTS.

cheers and good luck.

WLDLS1

12-07-2009, 10:32 AM

im not a big fan of the VE commodore. im not a big fan of walkinshaw.(hate him)
the W427 looks awesome and the potential to go fast is there. BUT. i would keep the GTS. i love em. the vx gts is also a keeper for me. just my opinion.
what would be good is your GTS with a 427 in it.

signature coupe

12-07-2009, 08:30 PM

if money is no issue go for a w427,personaly i love the vy-vz hsv's,they look awesome

GM Slave

13-07-2009, 08:38 AM

With respect, if a VY GTS was next to me in traffic I wouldn't notice it.

Cheers

If I saw I VY GTS in traffic I would stare for ages - love them. If I saw a W427 in traffic I'd laugh at the bloke driving it as that car represented nothing but a money grab by HSV to me.

And there can be no doubt that the W427 has a LOT of depreciation left in its lifetime.

mikek73xu1

13-07-2009, 08:52 AM

If I saw I VY GTS in traffic I would stare for ages - love them. If I saw a W427 in traffic I'd laugh at the bloke driving it as that car represented nothing but a money grab by HSV to me.

And there can be no doubt that the W427 has a LOT of depreciation left in its lifetime.

x 1.
Any GTS from VT - VZ gets noticed.

mustanger

13-07-2009, 08:57 AM

x 1.
Any GTS from VT - VZ gets noticed.

Yeah, especially the VZ GTS :confused:. Now there is a rare beast :jester:

MickmeMate

13-07-2009, 09:07 AM

MADLS1

13-07-2009, 09:58 AM

After seeing the build #23 VY II GTS beast in person I must say its the best VY GTS that I have seen "sorry Brian" - but it does pop in ultra violet & its still like a brand new car.

But the W427 with full options is a weapon & HSV may not use that engine again until they put it in the next clubsport... lol Just kidding

So yeh IMO.. I would just tip in extra for an E63 AMG :bow:

Just go the 427 if you get good coin for the VY.. But dont just give it away as its still a beautiful & rare car

Juzza

Ewok

13-07-2009, 11:32 AM

#23 VY2 GTS? Thought the OP said that there were only 20 made in total...?

As for the W427.... If you really wanted a track car, why wouldn't you buy an R34 GTR Nur or (if you love your automatics) an R35? I'm not pro Skyline by the way, I've owned about 4 commodores in my time and still prefer them, just needed a change of scenery for a while (as every man and his dog has a GTS these days). The W427 does not represent value to me at all. There was a wheels mag a few months ago, guy had bought a VE GTS and had it supercharged, upgraded brakes, suspension, wheels etc, the ENTIRE package, came out to about $90+k pretty much track ready (as track ready as the W427 is anyways). Putting out from memory about 470kw and 700+nM of torque. Think I know where my money would be ......

MADLS1

13-07-2009, 11:42 AM

Numbers can come down to what the owner wants at the time.. its like my old VX GTS was build number 350. You can pick number 999 if you want to pay for it.

As for buying an R35.. John is after a rare car for weekends as he also owns a near new BMW 5 series

So being a HSV fan he just wants a rare collectors car

Juzza

Ewok

13-07-2009, 11:49 AM

Whaaaaaaaaaat a GTS can't be a collectors item anymore? hehe

MADLS1

13-07-2009, 11:57 AM

Whaaaaaaaaaat a GTS can't be a collectors item anymore? hehe

A ve cant

but his VY II can be as its got ohlins & all the other options & its the callaway motor & the W427 will be rare if its got full options etc :)

the big fist

13-07-2009, 12:16 PM

IMHO, the vy gts is not a rare car. Ok so it's in great condition, low km's has some suspension mods but at the end of the day the overall package is not different enough to warrant it being a rare car. The w427 IS different enough to be considered a rare car I believe. There are the knockers on the forum who don't like the w427 but I believe a lot of that is just jealousy.

Really though, if you want something as an investment then forget cars. If you want something that you will enjoy then go the car. Buying a car as an investment to me though is a terrible idea.

mikek73xu1

13-07-2009, 12:24 PM

The VT-VZ GTS's were as different to the rest of the HSV lineup at the time as what the W427 is now - so there really is no question of them being special cars.
Mike

GJ227

13-07-2009, 12:29 PM

iloveholden

13-07-2009, 01:14 PM

based on the fact that you wont get what you think the VY is worth, why dont you keep it and stretch the budget and get the W427 as well, not like the money the VY will still be worth would make the difference in the price fof the W427, why not have the best of both worlds.

GJ227

What he said...it sounds as if money might not be a huge issue for you mate, if thats true well then have both....

Guys i dont remember a VZ GTS :jester:

701let

13-07-2009, 01:15 PM

Mate as others have said here, if i was next to a VY GTS in traffice i wouldnt give it a second look... Go the 427...

MADLS1

13-07-2009, 01:18 PM

Mate as others have said here, if i was next to a VY GTS in traffice i wouldnt give it a second look... Go the 427...

Being purple John's does stand out but yep I was telling him all weekend... W427 FTW

Sell it John!! :rofl:

Juzza

mikek73xu1

13-07-2009, 01:41 PM

What he said...it sounds as if money might not be a huge issue for you mate, if thats true well then have both....

Guys i dont remember a VZ GTS :jester:

Technically it was the 04 V2 GTS Coupe.

XUV

13-07-2009, 01:45 PM

keep your VY 11 GTS and put a supercharger on it ,
then go out and wipe the smile off a W427 drives face .......... maybe ...

vyc4b

13-07-2009, 03:38 PM

Technically there is NO SUCH THING as a VZ GTS.......
Yeah parked next to a VY GTS Sedan at the light's you probably wouldn't take a second look as the VY ClubSports do look alot like them, but regardless, they are in fact a rare car........maybe they aren't worth as much people would like to think they are, but nonetheless, they have alot more going for them than the ClubSport people sometimes mistake them for. IMHO.

The real question for the OP is whether or not a W427 is a $120-130,000 better than the car he already has.....

Alternatively,
I've driven a c63 AMG and obviously own a highly modified VY GTS, but I can tell you now that the difference in the two is very hard to describe, though for arguments sake let's just call it MASSIVE.
I am a huge fan of the W427 {and plan on owning one some day} but I could guarantee they aren't a patch on the Mercedes.

It's a good situation your in and either way you should feel fairly fortunate.
Cheers.

monaro327

13-07-2009, 04:43 PM

The VT-VZ GTS's were as different to the rest of the HSV lineup at the time as what the W427 is now - so there really is no question of them being special cars.
Mike

do the VT-VZ gts's get hand built motors?

Ewok

13-07-2009, 04:45 PM

Not that I know of.

vyc4b

13-07-2009, 05:37 PM

The VT2-VY2 GTS's etc get the C4B motor, not the normal LS1/6......
Cheers.

MADLS1

13-07-2009, 05:44 PM

mr5point7

13-07-2009, 07:58 PM

Thanks for the comments on the car Justin. Yes it's pretty immaculate for the age of the car. It's pretty noticeable considering the colour of the car :)

Seeing Brian's VY GTS some time ago makes me want to modify it but I wanted to keep the car original as it came out. I have the current BMW 5 series and FG F6 so I'll view all options before considering to sell.

I can understand everyones point of view, so I'll test a few cars in the next couple of weeks and see how I go. I'm in no rush at the moment.

In my eyes, a special car would need to be different from the rest of the models of the car. The cars back then were different in terms of:

VP GTS: 200kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VR GTS: 215kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VS GTS: 215kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VT GTS: 220kw, big 4 pot Harrop brakes, big Coulsen seats
VT II GTS: 300kw, big 4 pot Harrop brakes, big Coulsen seats
VY GTS: 300kw, 6 pot AP racing brakes, big Coulsen seats
VY II GTS: 300kw, 6 pot AP racing brakes, Ohlins, TPM, Bridge of Weir chain leather
VE GTS: 307kw & 317kw, 4 pot AP racing brakes... both these two are standard on the clubsport...

So in my opinion, the GTS's made between the VP and VYII were very special cars.

vyc4b

13-07-2009, 08:17 PM

I don't mean too sound rude mate but I can't remember meeting you, sorry.

The VE GTS's actually have AP 6 piston brakes as standard and the front and rear rotors are a smidge bigger than what the VY GTS has, being 365/350mm.
Let's not forget the VX GTS either, as with all of the other VX shapes, IMO HSV got the looks spot on.
Cheers.

mustanger

13-07-2009, 08:26 PM

In my eyes, a special car would need to be different from the rest of the models of the car. The cars back then were different in terms of:

VP GTS: 200kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VR GTS: 215kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VS GTS: 215kw, big brakes, better wrap-around seats
VT GTS: 220kw, big 4 pot Harrop brakes, big Coulsen seats
VT II GTS: 300kw, big 4 pot Harrop brakes, big Coulsen seats
VY GTS: 300kw, 6 pot AP racing brakes, big Coulsen seats
VY II GTS: 300kw, 6 pot AP racing brakes, Ohlins, TPM, Bridge of Weir chain leather
VE GTS: 307kw & 317kw, 4 pot AP racing brakes... both these two are standard on the clubsport...

So in my opinion, the GTS's made between the VP and VYII were very special cars.

Yes that may be the case , but from a motoring point of view, The VE is the BEST car out of the whole lot.

I agree that the others are unique in their own way but you cannot stop progress.

One drive in a VE GTS and you will instantly notice a big difference in build quality,features,dynamics,comfort etc etc.
If you step up to the W427, the difference is greater again and so it should because you are paying a premium for it .

It is very hard to try and compare cars directly from previous years, as it cannot be a fair comparison.People`s opinions change as time goes on.

If you want a rare car , go with your heart. If you want a better car , go with your Head ..........cheers John

I don't mean too sound rude mate but I can't remember meeting you, sorry.

The VE GTS's actually have AP 6 piston brakes as standard and the front and rear rotors are a smidge bigger than what the VY GTS has, being 365/350mm.

Brian, The VE GTS actually do have only 4 piston calipers on front with 365mm discs.

The previous GTS`s had 6 piston calipers with 362mm discs on front.

mr5point7

13-07-2009, 08:44 PM

Brian, you're not being rude... I didn't see/meet you personally. But, I have seen your gem of a car :)

VE GTS's never came out with 6 piston brakes. I am certain of that...

You're correct in the diameter of the discs being 365mm/350mm, but no 6 piston calipers unfortunately.

In the current VE shape the only vehicle to come with 6 piston brakes is the W427.

I did drive the VE GTS, and it really didn't do anything for me. The build quality and comfort was relatively the same to me. Performance, yes slightly better but nothing overly drastic. As a daily driver I chose the FG F6 - bang for you buck performance and amazingly quick.

I traded my VZ MY06 Maloo R8 (Vortech S/C) for the FG F6. I could have got the VE GTS, but the F6 was the better car. The Y II GTS is the "Sunday" car.
My BMW and FPV are great cars to drive - I really can't complain. The next thing is the decision on the Sunday car, which I appreciate all your comments.

... only time will tell ... i.e. several test drives of cars :banana:

beaver_roadkill

13-07-2009, 08:53 PM

I think if you were going to keep either car for a considerable amount of time, the price of the car and how much it's worth wouldn't come into the equation of it.

I would think that any of us would stare at an old VP GTS, or even the VS GTS-R, and appreciate what HSV have built over the years.

It all boils down to what you want to do with it. I think you and anyone who sees your VY can appreciate the condition, and the link in the evolution of HSV's.

The W427 is their best example at the moment, but they can put that engine in their next GTS and everyone can have the same performance at a fraction of the cost.

I think the most important point would be keep it original. Appreciate the best of the breed as it's intented.

GM Slave

13-07-2009, 09:12 PM

Not sure what your question really is. Do you want a

1. Sunday driver, or
2. Future collectable?

Because those are two wildly different questions.

A future collectable implies that you will hold on to the car for a long time - long enough for that car to become so rare that it's hard to find one to buy. I'm talking 25+ years old.

A collectable is about passion that you find it hard to replace at any cost.

It's pretty hard to consider any modern car a collectable. Although I remember seeing a Coupe 4 at a car show and thinking that it was a collectable.

I bought a VP Senator 5th Anniversary edition, one of 15 with papers, I'm the second registered owner. Unique color scheme, unique interior and a pile od special 5th anniversary touches. Will it be a future collectable? That's what it's all about, who knows. That's half the fun.

vyc4b

13-07-2009, 09:31 PM

Brian, The VE GTS actually do have only 4 piston calipers which is why I sold my lump...

The previous GTS`s had 6 piston calipers with 362mm discs on front, and where a much better car, you should know.

No dramas Muz, I agree whole heartedly..... :headbang:
Though I did for some reason think they had 6 piston front picks.
Cheers.

mr5point7

13-07-2009, 10:16 PM

Hey GM Slave,

I had a VP 5th Anniversary Senator too back then!

It was that nice light bluey colour (hard to describe)... like an ice blue, had the 5th Anniverday stitching in the door trims and the VP GTS steering wheel which was different to the clubsport. Also it didn't come with a rear spoiler. From memory they also came out witha VP 5th Anniversay Senator 5000i. Because mine wasn't the 5000i I sold it to a close friend... I sold it 3 years ago with about 30,000kms on it.

I got rid of it, but it was a beautiful car!

I want a Sunday driver and a collectible :)

Not that I would be driving it every Sunday anyway.

Excellent

14-07-2009, 10:42 AM

mr5point7 you have a BMW, FPV and deciding on getting an HSV Sunday car?

Jeeeez I wish I had your life. :)

the big fist

14-07-2009, 12:24 PM

One drive in a VE GTS and you will instantly notice a big difference in build quality,features,dynamics,comfort etc etc.
If you step up to the W427, the difference is greater again and so it should because you are paying a premium for it .

What !? I think Holdens build quality has gone so far backwards in the last few years. It turned me off completely getting a VE. Crap drivetrain, crap electrics, crap plastics that dent when you lean on them. :spew:

GM Slave summed it up the best.

I think that the w427 will be up there with the VS GTS-R's, Vl Walkies, Vn grp-A's.
Where as the gts's are very nice cars but just top of the range hsv's.

Swordie

14-07-2009, 09:56 PM

Sounds as though you like GTS. Have a drive of the W427 and see what it is like. I think you need to sit in and drive a car to know if you like it.

I wonder when the supercharged Corvette motor will be installed in the HSV?

mr5point7

12-08-2009, 09:51 PM

Hey all, I'm back and I have finally got around to getting some pics...

Can someone host for me?

taztassio

12-08-2009, 10:04 PM

keep VY 2 gts and buy w427.

MN05RO

12-08-2009, 10:06 PM

Hey all, I'm back and I have finally got around to getting some pics...

Can someone host for me?

start a photobucket account mate - its free

NickS

13-08-2009, 05:26 AM

What !? I think Holdens build quality has gone so far backwards in the last few years. It turned me off completely getting a VE. Crap drivetrain, crap electrics, crap plastics that dent when you lean on them. :spew:

Having owned VX / VY / VZ & VE ... I can tell you that you're full of crap (in the nicest possible way) ... we have done 60,000 kms in our VE GTS and it's still like new. Light years ahead of anything VZ or earlier ...

:yup:

The VY GTS is a special car, but it's no W427, IMO anyway. The VE GTS is also a special car, but definitely nothing worth sticking in the garage and keeping low kms. Get them out there and drive them, they are a fantastic car.

I know the joys of having the "Sunday Car" ... you get something out of it when it's sitting there all nice and shiny, it doesn't need to be out everyday. In fact, only using it occasionally keeps it special, and you can selectively drive it when you know you won't just be sitting in traffic !!!

Go with your heart mate ... if you are considering the swap I reckon you'd be happy with the change. If you really didn't want to let the VY go you wouldn't even be considering it.

:cheers:

PM sent re pics ...

clubbie

13-08-2009, 05:50 AM

For a sunday car that can be a collectable how about something out of left field like keep the VY II GTS and add a 69 Camaro or Vette with a 427....all bases covered:)

The only issue I have when trying to pick a future winner for collecting current cars is that new motors such as LSA and LS9 or a turbo or two can be slotted in by HSV and bingo new collectors edition......that's just my opinion.

NickS

13-08-2009, 09:27 AM

Pics of the VY II GTS ... :drool:

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:bow:

fish83

13-08-2009, 09:48 AM

:eek: Bloody hell - that color is awesome to say the least :bow:

NickS

13-08-2009, 09:51 AM

Interior Pics ...

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:goodjob:

255-LS1

13-08-2009, 09:52 AM

god damn that looks nice. To all those who say that would not turn your head in traffic you evidently have no appreciation for awesome cars, if that didn't turn your head ill go he.

To the OP, how much do you want for it lol

LJCHSV

13-08-2009, 10:23 AM

:bow:
If that didnt turn your head.......Consider yourself Dead!

MADLS1

13-08-2009, 12:41 PM

I have seen this car in person... dam its clean!! :bow:

NickS

13-08-2009, 12:48 PM

Engine Bay ...

http://www.oz8.org/gallery/albums/NickS/DSC_5823.sized.jpg

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:D

macca33

13-08-2009, 02:23 PM

Absolutely sensational!!

Interestingly, I've been driving a red VY GTS around for a few days and it is amazing the number of people who comment on it, even though it is 6 years old, etc, etc - they sure do stand out and the 'special' features of the car are enjoyed by many.

cheers

Lincoln87

13-08-2009, 04:06 PM

W427 would be aweosme. do it. do it now.

white lie

13-08-2009, 04:12 PM

I agree, its a fantastic looking machine. Surely you couldn't give that up too easily?

IMO the VT-VY GTS are the ones that stand out from the HSV pack. Even with the earlier models that were listed before, the Senator was always very close in comparison. Same power outputs, brakes, options etc, this changed a lot with the VTII but the gap certainly closed in power outputs with the VYII...But power isn't everything! A lot of people have said they wouldn't notice a VY GTS but mine certainly doesn't go unnoticed. Some people mistake it as a clubby first off but when they do their double take they're even more impressed.

How are the new E2's looking build numbers wise? I think the new GTS will be more distinguished from the pack but will never be as limited to as little as 20 ever again. The 427 is a cracker of a car no doubt, I guess the decision comes down to which one you'll feel most comfortable in.

vyc4b

13-08-2009, 04:41 PM

Great car, it look's in very good condition and that colour is sensational.
Cheers.

iloveholden

13-08-2009, 04:51 PM

After seeing those pics, i see the difficulty of the decision :) Very nice car mate BUT if you can only have one i'd still say go for the W427.

mustanger

13-08-2009, 05:00 PM

The answer comes down to one question.......

Do you think (and are you prepapared to pay) another $100,000 on top of what you already have.

If the answer is yes........go for the W427.

If the answer is no.......just keep and enjoy what you have.........Cheers John

mr5point7

13-08-2009, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the comments guys/gals...

decisions decisions... Will have to wait and see.

calais190

13-08-2009, 06:21 PM

This GTS is absolutely stunning. It looks as though it has never been driven! I can appreciate the reason behind it's well kept state also, it is in itself special. From the look of that, I would keep that. It's an amazing looking car, the W427 is good and all, but to me, it doesn't have the richness and heritage the VY does. Maybe in a few years from now the W427 will be a nice toy...

R8CHEV

13-08-2009, 06:58 PM

In my opinion the VY GTS is the sexiest HSV made to date..... ive only seen like 2 in person and they were both in traffic. I was creaming my pants sitting next to them lol.... an amazing car.
I think the new gts are, although an awesome car.... are way to common, so not really special.....
although the w427 is cool, the GTS has my vote and would stay in my garage for years to come if i had the choice.

Cheers, Brett

mr5point7

14-08-2009, 07:47 PM

After having a long hard think about it... it's going up for sale for a new toy.

4 years of ownership and only about 4000kms, I think it's time she goes to someone who is going to drive it.

WOMBIE

14-08-2009, 07:59 PM

After having a long hard think about it... it's going up for sale for a new toy.

4 years of ownership and only about 4000kms, I think it's time she goes to someone who is going to drive it.

Mate that's fair enough and i'm sure that you didn't make that decision lightly either!

Good luck :)

redvxr8clubby

14-08-2009, 08:03 PM

And I thought I haven't driven my Clubby much - about 18,000 Km in 3 years, 4,000km in 4 years is crazy, you've got to drive it a bit more than that. get that 427 and take for a drive from time to time. Sunday only car is great (pretty much the only time I use mine), but you've got to get out in it from time to time. Enjoy the 427.

calais190

15-08-2009, 09:23 AM

How much are you selling it for?

R8CHEV

15-08-2009, 11:12 AM

geez i wish i had the moiney to buy that...... its tempting to sell the clubby and get a loan for it....... id love that car lol.... but so wopuld like any other hsv fan on here i guess

white lie

15-08-2009, 12:55 PM

Its on carsales...
Shouldn't have a problem selling for that price mate. I would snap it up if I was still in the market for one!

Alex81

15-08-2009, 01:04 PM

Here is the carsales ad: http://www.carpoint.com.au/used-car/HSV/GTS/Victoria/csn7539975.aspx

Nice car mate, fully optioned defiantly worth what your chasing.

Brandonsdad

15-08-2009, 01:34 PM

After having a long hard think about it... it's going up for sale for a new toy.

4 years of ownership and only about 4000kms, I think it's time she goes to someone who is going to drive it.

Good idea mate. No use in having a nice car and keep it in the garage locked away. Nice cars should be driven every day for all of us to appreciate.

iloveholden

15-08-2009, 01:34 PM

Good luck with the sale mate :)

troytroy

15-08-2009, 07:59 PM

I'm in love.

That car would fustrate the s**t out of me, I'd want to drive it - but then I'd love to lock it up and keep it under plastic:bawl:....decisions

I've seen three HSV W427's driving around Sydney and absolutely no YII GTS's. ever.

Absolutely beautiful car. A bargain for what it is.

good luck!

mr5point7

15-08-2009, 10:49 PM

Thanks all... hopefully I'm not asking too much. Had a few interstate enquiries already! Haven't advertised it for too long... hope there aren't too many tyre kickers out there.

We'll see how it goes. It will be sad to see her go...

macca33

16-08-2009, 07:52 AM

Shame to let it go; more of a shame that I don't have a spare 50k sitting around.

Good luck with the sale.

W427GOT1

23-08-2009, 03:50 PM

just a little question..orders for the W427 have closed back in april this year...

so are you buying s/hand, or a dealer has 1 in stock some where?...

with only so few made you could be waiting a while for 1 to come along to buy..?

smiles

mustanger

23-08-2009, 04:15 PM

There are still a few new ones around http://www.carsales.com.au/new-cars/results.aspx?Ns=p_NewPrice_Decimal%7C0%7C%7Cp_Make _String%7C0%7C%7Cp_Family_String%7C0%7C%7Cp_Badge_ String%7C0%7C%7Cp_Series_String%7C0&N=2994+2951+4294955531+4294843425&tabid=2207633&keywords=&Nne=15

kurt27

23-08-2009, 04:22 PM

zo6 for the win!!

brentonsav

23-08-2009, 05:12 PM

very nice car mate. personally i dont like the cosmos much but i have ultimate respect for that vehicle.
you'll get what you want for it mate, you wont have to give that one away.

Wyrms

25-08-2009, 12:07 PM

That VY GTS is an amazing car. Looks like it's been kept in perfect condition as well. It's a beautiful car.

Personally, if it was me, I wouldn't spend the extra $100k on a W427. Beautiful car, love it to death, but I wouldn't be willing to spend that much on it. But with that being said, if you have the money, WHY NOT? You only live once.

And trust me, that thing will not depreciate considering how many there were built.
Anything that's pretty much limited edition and kept in good nick for 10-20 years, the price goes up, not down. So if you take care of a W427 the way you have that VY GTS, you'll probably end up making more off it later on in life.

But with that being said, if you keep the VY GTS, it'll probably sell for more than $50k in say 5-10 years from now. Because after a certain point of time they immediately become classic collector's items and people are willing to pay an arm and a leg for them.

I know what everyone's been saying, but I love the VE GTS. I see heaps more clubbies on the road than GTS'. And they are still excellent cars and very good value for money. But at the same time, I acknowledge your desire to have something almost no one else does. haha

nudenut

25-08-2009, 02:42 PM

And trust me, that thing will not depreciate considering how many there were built.
Pretty much all cars depreciate. The small limited edition just means it's likely to start appreciating sooner. For example ... (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=6950004&__sid=1223226239B3&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Price_Decim al%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_S tring%7c0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294965530% 204294805996&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=5&silo=1011)

But with that being said, if you keep the VY GTS, it'll probably sell for more than $50k in say 5-10 years from now.
No way. Y2 GTS - $98K new in '04 - you reckon you'll get more than 50% of its new price in 5-10 years? Tell im e's dreamin. :1peek: Compare to a VSII GTS, $70K new in '97, worth maybe $20K (being generous) today. I'd say maybe $30K for the VY in 5-10 years, beautiful as it is.

Good luck with the sale & finding a new toy mr5point7, it's certainly a special car. (Does that mean you'll have to change your username?) :eyes: