A Question For Pedders

[redbelly007]

Just a question guys, how are these new laws going to affect you guys and how are the cops going to know just when and where you got your car lowered i was thinking of lowering my car now i have to think twice about it just would like to get your view on this bulls..t law. :confused:

Cheers

[macca33]

Moved into the Pedders section, as it is directed to them.

Now, reading the article - 5cm (and 15cm with engineering approval) is a mile when it comes to altering vehicle ride height - I'm sure the Pedders suspension crew can comply with this proposed requirement, if it becomes legislated.

cheers

[livewildcard]

The more and more I read and hear people talking about it looks like its only really going to effect those that go ridicously low i mean 5-15 cm.

But if you want to be sure just get in before August 1.

But I'm sure for all those that don't or buy new cars soon will still appreciate a 5cm drop!!

[redbelly007]

The more and more I read and hear people talking about it looks like its only really going to effect those that go ridicously low i mean 5-15 cm.

But if you want to be sure just get in before August 1.

But I'm sure for all those that don't or buy new cars soon will still appreciate a 5cm drop!!

Yer i was looking at no more than 5cm so hope it will not effect me then when you see some of those utes that have their tail near dragging on the ground they may have to re think but all in all its a bulls..t law .

[Pedders]

Guys,
I think we will all need to see how the legislation unfolds rather than rely on the information from a one page press release. I think we can all agree that there will be a lot more to it when or if it is enacted.

Scott

[Luke_]

This has also been puffed up by the media as much as a firecracker tied to someone's shoe...

Lowering cars beyond legality, as well as well under 100mm has always been around, and still has always been defected in the past.

I couldn't count the amount of SSSL springs we supply to shops which regularly lower a Commodore anywhere from 70-120mm depending on the variant.

For those interested, we are currently meeting with the AAAA, the governing body of aftermarket parts in delaying this. We, along with the AAAA are asking about retrospective, benchmarks, who will be issuing the certificates, does that individual have the expertise to evaluate, who is supplying the factory original ride height measurements to work from, etc etc

Regards,
Luke

[redbelly007]

Hey guys
Thanks to Luke and Scott iam thinking lets see where this all ends up and go from there and lets hope these knuckleheads start to think with a brain we are not all hoons there is some out there that give the good guys a bad rep so lets just hope it all works out ok.

Cheers :hide:

[Pedders]

To all members,

Below is the Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association response to NSW minister for roads Michael Daley’s press release. As you can see from the letter below the AAAA were as unaware of the proposed changes as we and everyone else. Before announcing such a radical plan it would seem ill conceived for the Minister or those drafting such legislation not to have consulted the industry bodies that deal with those who would be most affected prior to making such an announcement.

Click Here :For more information on the AAAA http://www.aaaa.com.au/default.asp

Subject: AAAA Concerns Relating to Proposed Suspension Regulations in NSW

Dear Member,

Earlier this afternoon we received a press release from the office of the New South Wales Minister for Roads, Michael Daley. Please follow the below link to review this press release.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/16072009_carhoons.pdf (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/16072009_carhoons.pdf)

Under the guise of attempting to hamper modifications undertaken by 'car hoons' the Minister has outlined changes in regulation that will cause havoc for both the automotive industry and the 1000's of drivers on NSW roads with minor, currently legal suspension modifications. Many of the modifications outlined in the press release that will require engineering approval are completely legal in EVERY other state in Australia, making this scenario totally unworkable. We have spoken with other consumer and industry stakeholder groups nationally, and they, like us were not consulted regarding this radical change in policy direction.

We are currently drafting a letter that will be sent in the next 24 hours requesting an immediate meeting with the Minister to highlight both the shortcomings in the policy and the gross misconceptions raised in this press release.

[SS Enforcer]

The thing is brand new cars sit high and can take a year or more to settle down will the manufactures supply a guide to what the std ride height should be after it's settled down ?
Will the brand new car be defected as it's too high ?

Fat peoples cars may ride lower as well and those who carry stuff around. This seems to be a poorly thought out proposal.

cheers

[QIKMIK]

The local Pedders here in Canberra told me about a 350Z that was defected down here. Completely stock suspension had sagged over the 5-6 years of its life and it was nabbed by the RTA for ride height.

Mick

[signature coupe]

To all members,

Below is the Australian Automotive Aftermarket Association response to NSW minister for roads Michael Daley’s press release. As you can see from the letter below the AAAA were as unaware of the proposed changes as we and everyone else. Before announcing such a radical plan it would seem ill conceived for the Minister or those drafting such legislation not to have consulted the industry bodies that deal with those who would be most affected prior to making such an announcement.

Click Here :For more information on the AAAA http://www.aaaa.com.au/default.asp

Subject: AAAA Concerns Relating to Proposed Suspension Regulations in NSW

Dear Member,

Earlier this afternoon we received a press release from the office of the New South Wales Minister for Roads, Michael Daley. Please follow the below link to review this press release.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/16072009_carhoons.pdf (http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/newsevents/downloads/minister_releases/16072009_carhoons.pdf)

Under the guise of attempting to hamper modifications undertaken by 'car hoons' the Minister has outlined changes in regulation that will cause havoc for both the automotive industry and the 1000's of drivers on NSW roads with minor, currently legal suspension modifications. Many of the modifications outlined in the press release that will require engineering approval are completely legal in EVERY other state in Australia, making this scenario totally unworkable. We have spoken with other consumer and industry stakeholder groups nationally, and they, like us were not consulted regarding this radical change in policy direction.

We are currently drafting a letter that will be sent in the next 24 hours requesting an immediate meeting with the Minister to highlight both the shortcomings in the policy and the gross misconceptions raised in this press release.

i just had xa coilovers fitted and it lowered my car by 30mm and i have 101mm ground clearance,so with all that being within the guidelines and being at legal height,do i need to get an engineers cert. to have them on?or is it only if i go over 50mm lower?

[dmenace]

If the other thread there is a link to the RTA site.

The PDF states you need a 'blue slip" inspection on the suspension mods.

[Clubb'N]

i just had xa coilovers fitted and it lowered my car by 30mm and i have 101mm ground clearance,so with all that being within the guidelines and being at legal height,do i need to get an engineers cert. to have them on?or is it only if i go over 50mm lower?

I don't know it will vary state to state. But I honestly thought adjustable suspension was frowned upon due the fact you can wind it up legally drive out and slam it back down.
Much like EPA and aftermarket tunable ECU's
I am not certain and I'm sure the man from pedders can clear this up 100%
In saying that
I will be going fully adjustable coil overs in the future

[Pedders]

I agree as there is unfortunately no uniformity across borders the aftermarket suppliers role is made significantly harder, as providing accurate advice depends on who is governement in what state at any particular time.

[vt2vx]

lower than what ride height fe2 or std?

the old 100 mm clearance rule is the easiest one to go by

[zorro]

Seeing as NSW have to run the pits every year for rego how come this isnt something that is addressed during this inspection and then kept as a defectable infringment when pulled over by the Police?

Seems silly legislation to pass, so the Police are going to be carrying a measuring tape and a book of all standard ride heights for EVERY vehicle on the road?

I have always thought that a suspension outlet (please pedders/WSP dont give me a mouthful for this) should issue a plate or certification to prove that they have installed a legal suspension system in the vehicle then much like a mod plate they can look up to see what was done at the time and IF the owner has modified it then gets defected. It doesnt put any ownership of the suspension on the shop all it is stating that at time of fitment it is road legal.

[signature coupe]

I agree as there is unfortunately no uniformity across borders the aftermarket suppliers role is made significantly harder, as providing accurate advice depends on who is governement in what state at any particular time.

well talk about dodgin a question,this doesnt answer anything.
im in nsw if thats what you are askin?