Special Edition SSV

[timandhayley]

A Special Edition SSV Sedan, Ute and Sportwagon have been announced for November and December production.

They will feature the Pontiac G8 front (bumper and bonnet) along with other features from the G8, like extra chrome mouldings and rear lip spoiler on the sedan.

Prices will remain the same as other SSV variants.

Colours available will be:

Voodoo Blue
Red Hot
Phantom Black

[SCiFiRE]

Sounds cool.
Where did you hear about this?
is there a link?

[chillicatqld]

more speculation?

[R8tourer]

What/who is the source if your info?

[timandhayley]

I work for a dealer. We had to order them today and were set a small allocation of build for November and December.

Definately not speculation.

[R8tourer]

Sounds good, will be something different :)

[redvxr8clubby]

November/ December special editions is something Holden often do to add a bit of value and interest in normally quiet selling times at end of year. Seems only logical it would be correct.

[Old Lion]

A Special Edition SSV Sedan, Ute and Sportwagon have been announced for November and December production.

They will feature the Pontiac G8 front (bumper and bonnet) along with other features from the G8, like extra chrome mouldings and rear lip spoiler on the sedan.

Prices will remain the same as other SSV variants.

Colours available will be:

Voodoo Blue
Red Hot
Phantom Black

If this is true ,then the E series 2 immediately lose the most identifiable difference between it and the current model . Doesn't make sense .:confused:

Cheers Old Lion

[alpha1]

If this is true ,then the E series 2 immediately lose the most identifiable difference between it and the current model . Doesn't make sense .:confused:

Cheers Old Lion



Old lion what do you mean?...... there is no difference between the My10 VE SSV and MY9.5 SSV anyway.

[Mad4Monaros]

Old lion what do you mean?...... there is no difference between the My10 VE SSV and MY9.5 SSV anyway.

I think he is talking about the HSV Series 2. There is talking of them having the G8 Bonnet.

[Old Lion]

Yes alpha1 i was referring to the HSV series 2 , even though it is only ( at this stage ) a rumour about the G8 bonnet being on them , i can't see HSV being to happy about them also being on a special edition SS/ SSV .

Cheers Old Lion

[X BC X]

hmmmmm.......they look the goods

http://dealerrevs.com/pictures/11620067.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron2.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron1.jpg

....but it feels like a bit of a cop out.
would have been nice to seen a g8 bonnet on a modified ss bar, but i suppose that costs more de nero than this option.

[DX_]

Good move Holden, it'll be a fresh look to alot of people. Not sure where they'll put the Holden badge though, it'll need to be uber small or something.

[X BC X]

Good move Holden, it'll be a fresh look to alot of people. Not sure where they'll put the Holden badge though, it'll need to be uber small or something.

yup, id like to see it ditched completely from the front.....piss off the side bumper reflector while they are at it.

just a clean front fascia, harking back to the old 'twin nostril' days :lol:

also a set of polished ssv rims would finish it off nicely (ala cv8z)

[Ghosn]

Left over parts from exports?

[VT_Lance]

thats what i was thinking Ghosn but it does look good even better if that badge wasnt there

[Stevotski]

Left over parts from exports?

exactly.... 'limited edition' rather than sell excess stock from the canceled G8 program to NVU etc

[theVman]

Could look interesting - hope they remove the blinkers off the side of the bar though.

[smaky]

Wow. That sure is ugly. Hope that picture isn't a final product shot.

[SHANESVZSS]

Wow. That sure is ugly. Hope that picture isn't a final product shot.

+ 1 , looks ugly , maybe in black with some g8 wheels it would look ok , i still prefer the current stuff ather than the pontiac look..

[255-LS1]

exactly.... 'limited edition' rather than sell excess stock from the canceled G8 program to NVU etc

yep just like the SSZ was "special" to clear the last of the 5.7L VZs before the 6L came along.

Those reflectors on the front bumper are just dog ugly, and it just looks confused with those wheels needs G8 rims. i suspect most who buy and know what they are doing will remove SSV badges and change the wheels or painted them black or something

[Boss Hogg]

Looks like a bloated Mitsubishi Magna!

[Curtis-R]

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron2.jpg

thats a bog left hook G8..

In the latest Street Commodores there is a very nice looking G8, bit a bit of fabrication going on.. looks awesome IMO..

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/gallery/event_coverage/sema/2008/sema_day_1_11-4-08/w8001.jpg

in standard form the G8 front does not cut it IMO either.

[timandhayley]

The front will be left unbadged. Not sure about the indicators.

The car comes with standard 19 inch SSV alloys.

[White Rider]

Hope the steering wheel is on the proper side:p

[vzss05]

One if the dealers I was talking today with about a new SSV was chasing this up as he had to order this week, will hopefully have details tomorrow

[iloveholden]

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/gallery/event_coverage/sema/2008/sema_day_1_11-4-08/w8001.jpg



mmm thats hots imo :love:

[VXEXEC350]

1 black wagon thanks

[lowriding]

Poncho front looks awesome imo , much more aggressive than the VE . Left over parts bin for sure but it would have made an instant success if it had more power to be a genuine ,real ltd edition .....maybe leftover base 307 hsv tune ,leftover w427 style otrcai , maybe clubsport spec springs plus some unique rims and decals/400hp badging would seriously cost 2/10 of FA , make for a great collectible and signal back to the day of genuine factory specials ...ltd edition 750 or so ,could charge a nice premium things would deadset fly off the shelves and would have no discounting at the dealer ! :teach:

[Mr_SS-V]

i love the stance of the silver one in the back ground :)

[gmack]

Smaller grill looks the goods on the silver one as well.

[VESportswagon20]

hmmmmm.......they look the goods

http://dealerrevs.com/pictures/11620067.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron2.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron1.jpg

....but it feels like a bit of a cop out.
would have been nice to seen a g8 bonnet on a modified ss bar, but i suppose that costs more de nero than this option.

Can't really say that is the final product or even anything like the SSV will look like because that is a actual Left Hand Drive G8 in that photo so I doubt the Pontiac Front will surface onto a SSV. You will probably see the current Grill and G8 Bonnet and Bumper.

[bonners]

thats a bog left hook G8..

In the latest Street Commodores there is a very nice looking G8, bit a bit of fabrication going on.. looks awesome IMO..

http://www.urbanracer.com/gallery/gallery/event_coverage/sema/2008/sema_day_1_11-4-08/w8001.jpg

in standard form the G8 front does not cut it IMO either.

Mmmm TJIN Edition. If only they took some on some of the interior work done on that car. Was told by a Holden worker today that there was going to be some changes made to the binnacle gauges

[X BC X]

thats a bog left hook G8..


fully aware of that, threw it up as a comparison, and if whats said is true, it will be pretty much near identical external bar a few small details.


Can't really say that is the final product or even anything like the SSV will look like because that is a actual Left Hand Drive G8 in that photo so I doubt the Pontiac Front will surface onto a SSV. You will probably see the current Grill and G8 Bonnet and Bumper.

what does LHD have to do with anything ? according to the source, it will have a g8 bonnet and front bumber.....as per these g8 photos.

current grill and g8 bonnet and bumper ? do you mean an amalgamation of the ss and g8 bumper ?

i highly doubt there will be ANY new body parts generated for this special.
so if it has the g8 bonnet....... it will have the g8 front fascia.
costs $ to produce a new fascia....it wont be happening. :werd:

[Sluggy]

That silver one in the back DOES look good. Does anyone know what it is? Some kind of Pontiac show car, or an aftermarket special?

Cheers, SLuggy

[sjhugh]

It's a Pontiac GXP at Sema 2008, it was shown at the same time as the Pontiac Ute.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn249/sjhugh/pontiac-at-sema-2008-hr-01.jpg

[fatbob]

what R those rims on the silver beast ?

[OFDHZY]

:evil:Now this looks TUFF!!!!

[boyley]

I'm not a fan of the pontiac nose but like the bonnet, I think it's the grille that lets it down.

[M1SSV8]

what R those rims on the silver beast ?

+ 1

That silver one looks hot!

[hutchzvu8]

There only releasing 400 utes

Im about to pre order an ss (through my mrs) in the dark grey :drool:

[255-LS1]

This thing is bad ass

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2655/3581/31636790067_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2655/3581/31636790066_large.jpg

[SHANESVZSS]

i know the OP said they dont have white but, id love to see a white one with black w427 wheels with red walls :bow: then id get one!! i take back what i said about them being ugly!

[PSI 364]

I have been in contact with three different dealers right across QLD and no one knows anything about this SSV special ?????

Is this a Holden factory thing or a dealer bolt on special ?

[PSI_747]

I work at Holden, we have built many HSV MY10s, which DO get the G8 bonnet.I would be VERY suprised if Holden release an SSV with the G8 bonnet as well. HSV wouldn't be liking that, not saying that it can't happen, just seems highly unlikely.

That silver GXP G8 picture....that front bar is vomit. the all open bottom section doesn't look right at all IMO.

[GEN III]

phhh looks like a rice car. the lowest of the low.

[vzss05]

I have been in contact with three different dealers right across QLD and no one knows anything about this SSV special ?????

Is this a Holden factory thing or a dealer bolt on special ?

Dealer I spoke to yesterday had heard there was a special edition coming, but was chasing details for me today. Havnt heard as yet

[oranpark_addict]

That silver GXP G8 picture....that front bar is vomit. the all open bottom section doesn't look right at all IMO.

I thought that the front bar on that looked like it was off an evo or some other ricer. Doesn't suit

[Tyre biter]

This thing is bad ass

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2655/3581/31636790067_large.jpg

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2655/3581/31636790066_large.jpg

There is something wrong there. Look how the rear is significantly lower in the second pic when compared to the first - photoshop? Why don't folks just leave stuff alone so you can see what it really looks like as opposed to fiddling with things...

Interesting what PSI_747 said - maybe there is a bit of smoke and mirrors in all of this. In any case, I'd like the G8 bonnet somehow fitted to the Commodore front bar or failing that for cost reasons already mentioned, why not use the smaller nostril version of the GXP from SEMA 2008 so as to return to the more 'traditional' look of the Commodore. I think the GXP is just gorgeous.

Cheers, TB

[timandhayley]

I can tell you this model is a reality. I have seen photo examples of the exterior of the sedan and ute.

They have a G8 Bonnet and front bumper. Sedan has Calais V chrome boot mould, rear lip spoiler and chrome mouldings on the doors. 19 inch SSV wheels remain on the cars.

Don't know anything about the interiors. This will all be revealed in time. Dealers that don't know about them are just pleading ignorant.

They are a November and December build car with dealers all allocated a small share of build, based on past Commodore sales.

[KuRT12]

I can tell you this model is a reality. I have seen photo examples of the exterior of the sedan and ute.

They have a G8 Bonnet and front bumper. Sedan has Calais V chrome boot mould, rear lip spoiler and chrome mouldings on the doors. 19 inch SSV wheels remain on the cars.

Don't know anything about the interiors. This will all be revealed in time. Dealers that don't know about them are just pleading ignorant.

They are a November and December build car with dealers all allocated a small share of build, based on past Commodore sales.

My dealer emailed me this, didnt look much chop tbh smallest photo in the world aswell

[vzss05]

My dealer emailed me this, didnt look much chop tbh smallest photo in the world aswell

Well, show us then

[KuRT12]

Well, show us then

http://upit.cc/images/44d4bc8ae4a6f25b10ff141e0089ff9e.png

[Black AH CDX]

I have been in contact with three different dealers right across QLD and no one knows anything about this SSV special ?????

Is this a Holden factory thing or a dealer bolt on special ?

They obviously don't check their bulletins then.

[Vulture]

I can't see this happening; not with HSV getting the G8 bonnet on the GTS only. No way. Would devalue the look severely. This is all just wishful thinking IMO.

[Nightrain]

http://upit.cc/images/44d4bc8ae4a6f25b10ff141e0089ff9e.png

Not a fan of the ute at all.

[KuRT12]

Not a fan of the ute at all.
G8 front is shite in my opinion.. dont mind the rear

[fatbob]

question remains - anyone know what the rims on the silver one last page was ?
Don't care much bout other things - but want those rims.

[boompy]

Ordered mine today
RRP is the same as SSV
Was handed the bulletin from the dealer stating that

The RRP of the vehicle is the same as per today's SSV variants (as shown MT)
$47,490 Ute
$55,290 Sedan
$57,290 Sportwagon

The retail bonus allocation will be $1000 less versus the MY 10 SSV variants

This equated to a $1000 more to me to buy

Was told I will receive it November to early December

Ordered a Phantom 6 Speed manual yoot

Must be official by now cause they took my money :)

Can't wait

[Lincoln87]

There is something wrong there. Look how the rear is significantly lower in the second pic when compared to the first - photoshop? Why don't folks just leave stuff alone so you can see what it really looks like as opposed to fiddling with things...

Interesting what PSI_747 said - maybe there is a bit of smoke and mirrors in all of this. In any case, I'd like the G8 bonnet somehow fitted to the Commodore front bar or failing that for cost reasons already mentioned, why not use the smaller nostril version of the GXP from SEMA 2008 so as to return to the more 'traditional' look of the Commodore. I think the GXP is just gorgeous.

Cheers, TB



its on bags pal.

plus idk why but it also has 6 spokes one side 7 on the other.





......

i was never a fan of the VE SSVs until i started seeing them lowered over a set of wheels.

once you see the G8 lowered on a set of rims, like the one above.. it will grow on you.

[Evman]

The pontiac front bar looks like arse. It's too pointy and doesn't fit with the VE shape at all IMO :spew:

[cashie]

plus id why but it also has 6 spokes one side 7 on the other.


Good spot, I didn't even see that

[alpha1]

Ordered mine today
RRP is the same as SSV
Was handed the bulletin from the dealer stating that

The RRP of the vehicle is the same as per today's SSV variants (as shown MT)
$47,490 Ute
$55,290 Sedan
$57,290 Sportwagon

The retail bonus allocation will be $1000 less versus the MY 10 SSV variants

This equated to a $1000 more to me to buy

Was told I will receive it November to early December

Ordered a Phantom 6 Speed manual yoot

Must be official by now cause they took my money :)

Can't wait



Is the rrp for the ute? and is it + on roads?....I asked my dealer today if i could change my order to the Limited edition he said it would be possible and the price would be $49K drive away versus my current SSV A6 order which is $42k.....so a 7k increase :s not sure if its worth 7k.

[Lincoln87]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/11/05/sema-2008-pontiac-g8-gxp-street-concept-gets-rave-reviews-on-th/


that looks pretty cool actually.
and the 7.4 dont sound too bad =)




once lowered it looks the goods

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/US063/2009-pontiac-g8-001copy.jpg

then some super dodge super sports

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d18/US063/2009-pontiac-g8-001copysupersports.jpg

[boompy]

Is the rrp for the ute? and is it + on roads?....I asked my dealer today if i could change my order to the Limited edition he said it would be possible and the price would be $49K drive away versus my current SSV A6 order which is $42k.....so a 7k increase :s not sure if its worth 7k.

The SSV ute in Black 6.0l Manual was $41600 drive away with 12 months rego after negotiating fleet discount etc
$42600 for the Limited edition drive away.

The RRP is obviously "recomended" not rock bottom

[Goggles]

The SSV ute in Black 6.0l Manual was $41600 drive away with 12 months rego after negotiating fleet discount etc

so what would a manual SSV sedan (non special edition) sell for brand new?

[planetdavo]

Interesting what PSI_747 said - maybe there is a bit of smoke and mirrors in all of this.
Definitely not. We are getting just under 30 of them.

[sixlta]

Just got a price from a good mate of mine, Was quoted $40880, For my10ss-v man, black, metro reg, and slimline plates, Was told $500 extra for the lim edition!

[Goggles]

just got back from my friendly holden dealer - had one of those offers to extend my wheels subscription for 12 months.

anyway, am half interested in a new VE.

apparently, Holden is offering significant discounts on MY10 SSVs.

was confirmed that the MY10 SSV will have the G8 front and rear spoiler as an option (or special deal). also confirmed that the V8 will have a power increase. also, interior changes and wheel design changes, and atomic would remain with the addition of Poison Ivy.

full details to be released on 1 Sept 09 (my birthday).

[alpha1]

just got back from my friendly holden dealer - had one of those offers to extend my wheels subscription for 12 months.

anyway, am half interested in a new VE.

apparently, Holden is offering significant discounts on MY10 SSVs.

was confirmed that the MY10 SSV will have the G8 front and rear spoiler as an option (or special deal). also confirmed that the V8 will have a power increase. also, interior changes and wheel design changes, and atomic would remain with the addition of Poison Ivy.

full details to be released on 1 Sept 09 (my birthday).



I have spoken to countless dealers and read massive amounts of speculative material reagrding the VE MY10...one thing is for sure GM do not communicate with their dealers well at all, I think its pretty poor form that Holden are taking orders for vehicles when their still unknown variations and options.
Again I must stress the speculative information that i have been told is the power increase in the above post will apply to the A6 only.... I was told that the A6 kw power will match the M6 of 270kw and further reduction/tunning of the AFM will result in inceased fuel efficency. Wheels and interior changes are also things that have been widely speculated.
In saying this I was also told by a dealer that a colour by the name of Ironite will be introduced (Gun metal grey)..however apparently this is for a different model car, so who knows whats likely to happen.
These vehicles go into production the last week of August yet the changes will not be made public untill the first week of September....FFS cmon Holden get your SH#T together.

My 2c

Adam

[PSI_747]

Well.....when i start building them...in the last week of August, i will post up what i find.

Time will tell as it always does....i'm hoping the rumours are true. Something new always rujuvinates interest!

[smokey777]

hmmmmm.......they look the goods

http://dealerrevs.com/pictures/11620067.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron2.jpg

http://autoblog.royfoss.com/images/g8/ron1.jpg

....but it feels like a bit of a cop out.
would have been nice to seen a g8 bonnet on a modified ss bar, but i suppose that costs more de nero than this option.

thats ugly as shit IMO

[Ron SS]

The G8 front looks terrible in my opinion. It is all about getting rid of stuff in the warehouse after the G8 demise. As for the non functional bonnet holes ...yuk!:spew:

[alpha1]

Well.....when i start building them...in the last week of August, i will post up what i find.

Time will tell as it always does....i'm hoping the rumours are true. Something new always rujuvinates interest!

Hi PSI_747, your obviously on the production line, you mean you guys do not see anytjing untill you roll up to work one morning? Thats sorta strange, I would have thought that quite alot of work would need to be done at production line level before the cars starting rolling out of the factory..especially when we are possibly looking at things like interior changes and slight exterior mods aswell. :confused:

[Goggles]

heading to Sydney tomorrow, does anyone have one or two dealers that I could talk to about a price for a new SSV?

location doesn't really matter.

feel free to pm me.

[PSI_747]

Hi PSI_747, your obviously on the production line, you mean you guys do not see anytjing untill you roll up to work one morning? Thats sorta strange, I would have thought that quite alot of work would need to be done at production line level before the cars starting rolling out of the factory..especially when we are possibly looking at things like interior changes and slight exterior mods aswell. :confused:

Yes, i'm on the production line. This supposedly special edition SSV is only rumoured to get a G8 bonnet and front bar.its not a major external change). I am yet to see or hear of any such model...not to say it isn't true, but we haven't seen anything yet.The next 2wks will tell more.
When they are about to release a new model of some sort, it comes down as a pilot, and that's when we see all the changes and not before. And the new parts are bought down especially for that car and ONLY for that car.Why would us production line workers see anything before hand?

Changes like this supposedly new SSV edition is nothing special, the G8 bonnet and G8 front bar come down the line like any other model. Nothing new really, both these parts go on like any other model, so nothing changes.

[planetdavo]

Changes like this supposedly new SSV edition is nothing special, the G8 bonnet and G8 front bar come down the line like any other model. Nothing new really, both these parts go on like any other model, so nothing changes.
I feel you don't see this as anything special because you have seen these being built in left hand drive for export for a while now.
What makes it special to Australia is the fact a small percentage of the population will be able to buy their VE's factory prepared with the export look, hence quite distinctive whilst being fully complianced as a genuine Holden build vehicle. These will be far more rare than an E series HSV!

[alpha1]

Yes, i'm on the production line. This supposedly special edition SSV is only rumoured to get a G8 bonnet and front bar.its not a major external change). I am yet to see or hear of any such model...not to say it isn't true, but we haven't seen anything yet.The next 2wks will tell more.
When they are about to release a new model of some sort, it comes down as a pilot, and that's when we see all the changes and not before. And the new parts are bought down especially for that car and ONLY for that car.Why would us production line workers see anything before hand?

Changes like this supposedly new SSV edition is nothing special, the G8 bonnet and G8 front bar come down the line like any other model. Nothing new really, both these parts go on like any other model, so nothing changes.


PSI_747 thanks for that, its good to know that there are production line assembly workers here contributing to these forums. :goodjob:

I look forward to hearing about what you see in the next couple of weeks.:)

Planet Davo, your probably spot on ...providing that the compliance plate differs from other SSV VE,s. If the G8 look is an option to any SSV purchaser and its only a front bar and bonnet change then i cant see why it would be collectable...ohhhwell time will tell.


Adam

[BOOGER]

I feel you don't see this as anything special because you have seen these being built in left hand drive for export for a while now.
What makes it special to Australia is the fact a small percentage of the population will be able to buy their VE's factory prepared with the export look, hence quite distinctive whilst being fully complianced as a genuine Holden build vehicle. These will be far more rare than an E series HSV!

Getting leftovers that aren't being used anymore for something else hardly makes it "special". If this was the case I might go down to maccas in the morning when they change over to the breakfast menu and get a special Big Mac!!

[Goggles]

Getting leftovers that aren't being used anymore for something else hardly makes it "special".

have mixed emotions about this one.

my MY06 VZ SS has the same rims as the last of the Monaros, and they (IMHO) look good.

however, if I am allowed (by she who must be obeyed, and if the $$$s add up) to buy a MY10 SSV, I don't really think I will go for the G8 front.

[alpha1]

have mixed emotions about this one.

my MY06 VZ SS has the same rims as the last of the Monaros, and they (IMHO) look good.

however, if I am allowed (by she who must be obeyed, and if the $$$s add up) to buy a MY10 SSV, I don't really think I will go for the G8 front.


+1, The G8 front bar looks crapola in my eyes.... but i would take the bonet

[BOOGER]

have mixed emotions about this one.

my MY06 VZ SS has the same rims as the last of the Monaros, and they (IMHO) look good.

however, if I am allowed (by she who must be obeyed, and if the $$$s add up) to buy a MY10 SSV, I don't really think I will go for the G8 front.

Yes I too suffer the wrath of she!!

I've got no problem with car makers - any car maker - using parts from superseded models, it's good business. It's even better if it suits the look of the car, what does annoy me though is a car maker that insults the intelligence of it's customers by trying to tell them they're getting something "special".

[PSI_747]

PSI_747 thanks for that, its good to know that there are production line assembly workers here contributing to these forums. :goodjob:

I look forward to hearing about what you see in the next couple of weeks.:)

Planet Davo, your probably spot on ...providing that the compliance plate differs from other SSV VE,s. If the G8 look is an option to any SSV purchaser and its only a front bar and bonnet change then i cant see why it would be collectable...ohhhwell time will tell.


Adam

If i can share infomation with other enthusiasts before hand, will gladly do mate.

Personally, i think the G8 bonnet with the current SS/SS-V front bar, would look much better than the big nostrel G8 front bar. It's a shame you need the G8 front bar to have the G8 vented bonnet.

Will post up what i see in the coming weeks.

cheers

[planetdavo]

Getting leftovers that aren't being used anymore for something else hardly makes it "special". If this was the case I might go down to maccas in the morning when they change over to the breakfast menu and get a special Big Mac!!
Ever heard of a model called SSZ, or CV8Z, or International, or GTO LE...?
Pretty sure all of them sold pretty well!
Your logic is fatally flawed by the fact these VE buyers will be buying a car that looks like an export model you previously couldn't buy in Australia.
A Big Mac still looks like a Big Mac, whether it's made before or after 10.30 my friend...:)

[SteveK]

Your logic is fatally flawed by the fact these VE buyers will be buying a car that looks like an export model you previously couldn't buy in Australia.
A Big Mac still looks like a Big Mac, whether it's made before or after 10.30 my friend...:)

Problem is, that G8 bumper is hideous with the giant Pontiac kidneys. But it's necessary to accommodate the bonnet which is the selling point. Going by your Big Mac analogy, it's like finding a new good looking girlfriend with "enhanced bonnet scoops" but she speaks in an annoying Brooklyn accent. Little from column A, little from column B.

P.S. look what the pontiac kidneys did for the Monaro when the GTO was released. Shocker.

[planetdavo]

Problem is, that G8 bumper is hideous with the giant Pontiac kidneys. But it's necessary to accommodate the bonnet which is the selling point.
P.S. look what the pontiac kidneys did for the Monaro when the GTO was released. Shocker.
Never said I'm a fan of the look, but to some buyers, it's an opportunity to buy a factory "export look" VE. There was even a recent thread from a member asking where they could buy G8 front panels from!
I know that from my work alone, this "limited edition" model is causing quite a stir, and since there aren't that many being released, it hardly matters what most of the population think, don't you agree???

[redvxr8clubby]

Perhaps aftermarket will come to the rescue and produce a bumper that fits with a G8 bonnet, perhaps a sort of copy of HSV E2 bumper.

[planetdavo]

Perhaps aftermarket will come to the rescue and produce a bumper that fits with a G8 bonnet, perhaps a sort of copy of HSV E2 bumper.
With E2 getting the Pontiac bonnet, and these bonnets already being available in Australia through some channels (but limited market due to the lack of suitable matching bumpers), there will no doubt be a fibreglass copy of the E2 bumper pretty soon...:spew:
(:spew: was for product quality reasons...)

[SteveK]

Never said I'm a fan of the look, but to some buyers, it's an opportunity to buy a factory "export look" VE. There was even a recent thread from a member asking where they could buy G8 front panels from!
I know that from my work alone, this "limited edition" model is causing quite a stir, and since there aren't that many being released, it hardly matters what most of the population think, don't you agree???

Totally agree. But it matters what *I* think, LE or not, stir or not. :)

As you say limited numbers means they only need a limited number of people interested.

Now, if they released the Coupe60 front, that would cause a violent tempest rather than a stir. ;)

[planetdavo]

Now, if they released the Coupe60 front, that would cause a violent tempest rather than a stir. ;)
Not a total copy, but perhaps sir would like to wait for the VF facelift toward mid 2010...:hide:

[BOOGER]

Ever heard of a model called SSZ, or CV8Z, or International, or GTO LE...?
Pretty sure all of them sold pretty well!
Your logic is fatally flawed by the fact these VE buyers will be buying a car that looks like an export model you previously couldn't buy in Australia.
A Big Mac still looks like a Big Mac, whether it's made before or after 10.30 my friend...:)

Whether they sold well or not is Irrelevant and is not the issue. Neither is whether the bastard creation looks good or not. The issue is taking surplus parts from a defunct model and using them on something else and passing it off as a special or limited edition. Why not actually create something that is truly special or limited edition? The way I see it is it’s just a way for you guys to squeeze a few extra dollars into the sale price for 1. Parts that already exist and 2. Need to be fitted to the car at production anyway regardless of which bonnet and bumper is used. But that could just be the cynic in me.

Why not call it exactly what it is, or wouldn’t that sound as impressive in the sales brochure!

[Lincoln87]

"getting rid of" the G8 front, would be just like getting rid of last years model.

putting a Z on the end (05 SSZ) or putting in an L76 (MY06).

Just something to get rid of surplus stock.


really, imo. the G8 front is nothing more than free leather, a few guages and "limited edition" wheels. Or watever.

[planetdavo]

Whether they sold well or not is Irrelevant and is not the issue. Neither is whether the bastard creation looks good or not. The issue is taking surplus parts from a defunct model and using them on something else and passing it off as a special or limited edition. Why not actually create something that is truly special or limited edition? The way I see it is it’s just a way for you guys to squeeze a few extra dollars into the sale price for 1. Parts that already exist and 2. Need to be fitted to the car at production anyway regardless of which bonnet and bumper is used. But that could just be the cynic in me.

Why not call it exactly what it is, or wouldn’t that sound as impressive in the sales brochure!
Did you actually read your post???!!!!
To quote you..."Whether they (previous limited edition models) sold well or not is Irrelevant and is not the issue".
Are you freakin' serious!!!!
Just what do you think is the reason a car manufacturer releases a model for??? :confused::confused::confused:
It's up to the general public (and the odd internet forum member obviously :rolleyes:) to decide whether they were worth doing by voting with their cheque books. If you don't agree then you wont be one of the people buying one I guess.
Damn, that must be so hard to comprehend. :eek:


"getting rid of" the G8 front, would be just like getting rid of last years model.

putting a Z on the end (05 SSZ) or putting in an L76 (MY06).

Just something to get rid of surplus stock.


really, imo. the G8 front is nothing more than free leather, a few guages and "limited edition" wheels. Or watever.
Well, I guess you and Booger wont be buying one then...
PS: You can still buy G8's in America. Would you like to log onto a US GM forum, and tell all the people over there that their desire to fit Aus market VE fronts and badges makes them the sad owners of "last years model in Australia"...? :goodjob:
Some people just like to be different you know. They don't need to explain their decisions to nobody's on internet forums. :idea:

[Nightrain]

While not being my cup of tea for looks it's clever work from Holden. We've had the SS Fifty ute (I owned one) which had the yellow interior, special badges and different rims. Now the G8 ute, and look out in 2011 for the SS Sixty ute. Just keeps things ticking along

[BOOGER]

Did you actually read your post???!!!!
To quote you..."Whether they (previous limited edition models) sold well or not is Irrelevant and is not the issue".
Are you freakin' serious!!!!
Just what do you think is the reason a car manufacturer releases a model for??? :confused::confused::confused:
It's up to the general public (and the odd internet forum member obviously :rolleyes:) to decide whether they were worth doing by voting with their cheque books. If you don't agree then you wont be one of the people buying one I guess.
Damn, that must be so hard to comprehend. :eek:


Yes doctor evil I am freakin' serious!!

I wrote the post so I'm pretty sure I had a read of it. MY issue for debate is the motives behind these special editions, absolutely nothing about how they look or sell. How is that so damn hard for YOU to comprehend?

But that's ok, you keep flying the corporate flag. You are employed by them afterall and it might not be conducive to career advancement for you to bag it.

[mac06]

Perhaps PSI 747 could fill us in, but AFAIK manufacturers don't store copious quantities of parts in the manufacturing process like they used to do many years ago. It's a case of build as you need. That means the limited edition SSV is not being built to get rid of surplus parts as some have being saying. It's a decision Hoden have made to build something special in limited quantities just as they always have been doing over the years. Some buyers will like it, some won't. In the end they will all sell regardless of what we think.

[planetdavo]

Yes doctor evil I am freakin' serious!!

I wrote the post so I'm pretty sure I had a read of it. MY issue for debate is the motives behind these special editions, absolutely nothing about how they look or sell. How is that so damn hard for YOU to comprehend?

But that's ok, you keep flying the corporate flag. You are employed by them afterall and it might not be conducive to career advancement for you to bag it.
I'm not employed by "Holden". Numerous forum people seen to have a serious issue understanding that Holden (the manufacturer) and Holden (the franchise fee paying dealers) are two quite different groups of people! Ignorance to blame perhaps?
What I think hardly matters, but if you can't comprehend that car manufacturers release limited editions to boost sales, well, perhaps it's time you learn the industry a bit better! :idea:
Limited Editions using truly unique parts add massive cost to a car you know.
For one classic example, have you ever heard of a model called W427? Now, it's price compared to a VE GTS? :goodjob:
Your problem appears to be purely yours. If you feel that (in this case) Holden are ripping off the consumer, go off to Consumer Affairs and A Current Affair. Be warned though, they might laugh in your face! :lmao:
You don't have to buy one if you don't agree with the reasons for it's existence. :)


Perhaps PSI 747 could fill us in, but AFAIK manufacturers don't store copious quantities of parts in the manufacturing process like they used to do many years ago. It's a case of build as you need. That means the limited edition SSV is not being built to get rid of surplus parts as some have being saying. It's a decision Hoden have made to build something special in limited quantities just as they always have been doing over the years. Some buyers will like it, some won't. In the end they will all sell regardless of what we think.
I can add some input on this topic.
All manufacturers work on a "just in time" philosophy. I believe it was Toyota that started this, and has since been copied by every other manufacturer in the world.
Where possible, trucks turn up with parts just before a run of cars is due to go down the line. This saves money by (a) not having to store large amounts of stock in large warehouses, and (b) not having to pay for all this stock well before the cars are built.
Items like bonnets, bumpers etc are made in South Australia, and easily made to this principal.
Items like grilles, fog lamps etc are imported, so obviously much harder to work to the just in time principal.
Since most of the car is existing local VE, and the major frontal differences are locally made (bonnet, bonnet insulator pad and front bumper), the "conspiracy theory" of lumping Aus buyers with excess parts is pretty much blown out the water.
Also, parts that were "potentially" destined for production line fitment could be re-packaged into the parts system if required (and not previously fitted), as the only difference between production line parts and aftersales spare parts is how they are packaged.

[Vulture]

Not a total copy, but perhaps sir would like to wait for the VF facelift toward mid 2010...:hide:

Yep, I'm looking forward to seeing what's on offer.

[goofafidamedes]

I think that what a lot of us need to realise (myself included) is that in the car business in these times of GFC's and Economic Crises, these special editions are not the heartfelt "this is what we should have built or offered in the first place" type efforts.

These special editions are built solely to a business-case scenario.

ie. shift unused inventory (as in the probable case of G8 bonnets)
ie. stir up public interest in a model (20th Ed Clubby)
ie. get column inches in magazines and win comparos (W427 anybody)

These cars only get the go-ahead there is going to be some direct, measurable, more often than not financial benefit to the manufacturer.

Although I think in the case of the W427 there's some tech/configuration items in there likely to trickle down into mainstream HSV's of years to come.

Let's face it, we're going to see these special editions every year now. At the end of the day, people other than us "enthusiasts" pay for them and as a result the manufacturer lives to see another day.

I'd say that's a win all round.

We've got to remember, we're talking about Holden here, not Ferrari or Porsche (or any other Euro exotica) - where "real" special editions often cost 30/40% of the purchase price again on top of the initial car.

Here's Holden - you get a "special edition" for a next-to-nothing or a lousy couple-o-grand price increase.

[planetdavo]

Let's face it, we're going to see these special editions every year now. At the end of the day, people other than us "enthusiasts" pay for them and as a result the manufacturer lives to see another day.

I'd say that's a win all round.

Quite true, and it's already been happening during VE.
We've had the limited release Omega V-series, followed by the Lumina, followed by the International. We've also had a number of MY updates, even .5 MY updates as well! Previously, we had less releases, but a regular run of "series 2" models.
Ultimately, "enthusiusts" are the minority of the car buying population, but it appears they attempt to make the most noise as a result of their "passion".

[Goggles]

well it looks like I will be getting a MY10 Poison Ivy SSV M6 as soon as they are available....just finalising a few things, including keeping the better half happy.

anyway, it will not have the G8 front, nor small lip spoiler....it will be a real SSV.

[fatbob]

Yes doctor evil I am freakin' serious!!


Is there a vote for best comment made in the year ? As its getting close to end of the year - and this one gets mine. I think planetevil got it right by the way - but thats a priceless comment.

[Pepps]

well it looks like I will be getting a MY10 Poison Ivy SSV M6 as soon as they are available....just finalising a few things, including keeping the better half happy.

anyway, it will not have the G8 front, nor small lip spoiler....it will be a real SSV.

poison ivy? What's this colour like?

[Goggles]

poison ivy? What's this colour like?

like this:
http://us.tnpv.net//2009/GMC200908/GMC2009080375507_PV.jpg

[PSI_747]

like this:
http://us.tnpv.net//2009/GMC200908/GMC2009080375507_PV.jpg

Great colour choice GOGGLES. We have built a couple...including some E2 HSV's, looks even better in the flesh.

[Goggles]

Great colour choice GOGGLES

thanks, have always wanted a green car, particularly this shade - was always my favourite colour as a kid.

If I do proceed, this will be Commodore #6 for me, and likely to be a keeper for a long period of time, compared with my last three.

[nudenut]

Congratulations, that's a great combination & colour Goggles, definitely the pick of the range for mine.

If I do proceed, this will be Commodore #6 for me, and likely to be a keeper for a long period of time, compared with my last three.
Are you able to get them through fleet or anything like that? Just curious, cos I'm the same age as you (if your listed age is right) and currently on my 2nd Commodore ('87 VL bought in '95, traded for my current VX in Jan '05). Then again, I'm probably a bit of an extreme case ...

[Goggles]

Congratulations, that's a great combination & colour Goggles, definitely the pick of the range for mine.

thanks


Are you able to get them through fleet or anything like that? Just curious, cos I'm the same age as you (if your listed age is right) and currently on my 2nd Commodore ('87 VL bought in '95, traded for my current VX in Jan '05). Then again, I'm probably a bit of an extreme case ...

#1 - VC Commodore L - paid outright for it
#2 - VS Commodore Executive V6 - on a personal loan
#3 - VY Commodore SV8 - on a personal loan
#4 - VYII Commodore SS - salaray packaged
#5 - VZ Commodore SS MY06 - salary packaged

the new one will also be salary packaged.

[Smitty]

................................All manufacturers work on a "just in time" philosophy. I believe it was Toyota that started this, and has since been copied by every other manufacturer in the world.
Where possible, trucks turn up with parts just before a run of cars is due to go down the line. This saves money by (a) not having to store large amounts of stock in large warehouses, and (b) not having to pay for all this stock well before the cars are built.
Items like bonnets, bumpers etc are made in South Australia, and easily made to this principal.
Items like grilles, fog lamps etc are imported, so obviously much harder to work to the just in time principal.
Since most of the car is existing local VE, and the major frontal differences are locally made (bonnet, bonnet insulator pad and front bumper), the "conspiracy theory" of lumping Aus buyers with excess parts is pretty much blown out the water.
Also, parts that were "potentially" destined for production line fitment could be re-packaged into the parts system if required (and not previously fitted), as the only difference between production line parts and aftersales spare parts is how they are packaged.

as one who worked for Holden (and yes, in whats known as a VAP or Vehicle Assembly plant) ...PD is pretty much correct in what he sez. Toyota kicked off whats known as JIT manufacturing. They then added Kanban to this..and these 2 improvements have been taken up by all manufacturers..to the extent that some car makers have the parts makers next door to them (or in a local industrial park) Holden have utilized JIT as much as possible since Commodore production started

Where he may be wrong (and also maybe correct) is in his statement on sourcing. Grilles intended for export vehicles may be made locally in Oz (or made overseas as could badges) The source of a part can cause issues with stock/stock levels and also obviously JIT/kanban systems.

And also having (since) worked for several manufacturers who make parts for Holden (and other Oz car makers) the issue of production line parts v spare parts is a shocker! While a model is in production, its easy for the makers parts operation to issue orders to buy X many parts as the part maker will also be making parts for production. (and yes all that differs is the packaging).

After a model ceases or the part is no longer used in production of the model it was previously used in, then the parts makers should NOT have any left over parts (if his order/mfg systems worked) and any subsequent order from a car makers parts operations means he has to make a special (obviously smaller) run of the parts ...

and as we all know, these are expensive

hth

[r00lerz]

Few more details on the special build.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/holden/commodore/exclusive-pontiac-g8-revived-in-australia-16339

[PSI_747]

Few more details on the special build.

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/holden/commodore/exclusive-pontiac-g8-revived-in-australia-16339

YES, it's TRUE. i spoke to an engineer at work today. He told me we would start seeing some come down the line in a few weeks. Will post up when i see them.

Cheers.

[Vulture]

I'm still not sure if I like it or not but there is no doubt that it will be a very exclusive model! Probably more sought after than an E2 HSV.

[chillicatqld]

Who cares... they are extremely ugly!

[planetdavo]

Where he may be wrong (and also maybe correct) is in his statement on sourcing. Grilles intended for export vehicles may be made locally in Oz (or made overseas as could badges) The source of a part can cause issues with stock/stock levels and also obviously JIT/kanban systems.

And also having (since) worked for several manufacturers who make parts for Holden (and other Oz car makers) the issue of production line parts v spare parts is a shocker! While a model is in production, its easy for the makers parts operation to issue orders to buy X many parts as the part maker will also be making parts for production. (and yes all that differs is the packaging).

After a model ceases or the part is no longer used in production of the model it was previously used in, then the parts makers should NOT have any left over parts (if his order/mfg systems worked) and any subsequent order from a car makers parts operations means he has to make a special (obviously smaller) run of the parts ...

Holden's various VE grilles are made in Korea these days, as are headlights, taillights and foglamps. Most alloy wheels are made in various parts of Asia too.
While not too difficult to plan these parts in advance for the production line and parts backup, it does fall apart if production fails to meet planned targets. Although Holden wouldn't have a stockpile of locally made bonnets and bumpers, marketing perhaps decided there was sufficient "likely" sales in releasing this variant, which simultaneously using up these imported parts like the grilles, fog lamps and boot lip spoilers.
For a CLASSIC example of where "planned" production has failed to meet expectations, and has benefitted members of this forum, ask around how many people bought those (long lead time/imported) AP Racing HSV brake kits for VT-VZ. As that body shape was ending with the last of the VZ's, they were left with no vehicles to fit them to, so we all ended up with a relative bargain! :)
Sometimes Holden offer "behind the scenes" clearouts too. There have been various cheap as alloy wheel offers in the last couple of years, rims that were destined for VAP fitment but sales dipped. One fairly recent massive one was the (ex Asia) 60th Anniversary 18 inch rim, rather than fitting them on the line and creating a special like the "Pontiac" SS-V...

[Gee]

I quite like the G8 look ... but I think the biggest problem will be that the front end doesnt suit a number plate.

[Goggles]

an update on my situation re a new SSV.

gonna proceed to buy one no matter what - she who must be obeyed has given her approval.

anyone it is a choice between a MY9.5 and MY10, with the key difference being dollars.

there is a significant difference in dollars between the MY9.5 and MY10 in my case, mostly due to a loss I will incur on my current SS as a trade-in.

I'm leaning towards a MY9.5 if I can get it in Atomic - there are a small number around.

however, and I know full details on the MY10 won't be released until 1 Sept, but can someone give me some hints as to whether the MY10 is a compelling buy vs a MY9.5?

[Focussed]

Howdy gents, very new to this site (first post)
I paid a deposit yesterday for a Phantom Sedan. My missus' brother works at the Elizabeth Plant & gave me a heads up on this new model last week.
Dealer got word about it early this month. Apparently production is set for the 1st couple of days of November, so delivery on mine will be in late November or early december...
We get a 35% discount on all new commodores due to the employee family discount scheme so we paid $42K driveaway!
Includes rear park assist, window tint & full size spare

[Boss Hogg]

I know full details on the MY10 won't be released until 1 Sept,

How do you know this? Has Holden announced that they will release details of the MY10?

[Goggles]

How do you know this? Has Holden announced that they will release details of the MY10?

was told by a Holden dealer last weekend.

[PSI_747]

Work told us today the...only 1500 of the new "special edition G8's" will be built, with NO increse in price over a normal SSV. it will wear NO pontiac badges what so ever either.
Should start seeing some come down the line early next month apparently.

[Goggles]

a couple of updates on the MY10 VE:
http://twitter.com/holdennews

Holden built its first MY10 VE today, and full details will be revealed on 8 Sept.

[bonners]

A contact sent me these

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/003.jpg

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s212/ZC_74/001.jpg

His comments were that they were coming in Sedan ute and wagon and Black Red and Blue.

This one may have been a pre export ute as it is a left hook.

[Vulture]

Looks way better than an E2 HSV IMO.

[Ghosn]

Interesting it has no badges?

[Smitty]

Looks way better than an E2 HSV IMO.

its been hit with an ugly stick alright ..........
(are HSV and Holden in the business of turning customers off?)

but yeah...heaps better than the E2

[Herbz]

Well I definetely don't regret choosing the MY9.5 now!!!:spew:

[simon.w]

I've been to the US a couple of times in the last 12 months ... and have seen my share of G8's in the flesh. Thier appeal is that they are different ... but when you stand back and look at them for a while it becomes apparent that they have lost the integrity of the orinional VE design ... the way your eye flows along the style lines is compromised.

But then again ... so are HSV's in my opinion. The tailights look like the days when clowns used to put LH tailights into VW beetles. And the extra horizontal join along the front guard so they could accomodate the front flutes is also dissapointing.

HSV had the dilema of having to distinguish themselves from a near perfect car (SS & SSV).

But the one that takes the cake is the E series 2 GTS. This is all over the place like a mad woman's shit!!!! Is it chrome, or is it black .... does the line go inwards, or outwards. Seiously, this is a dog's breakfast if ever I have seen one. And those wheels?????? wot the????? can you make them look any busier. This honestly looks like a hiroshima screamer that some 16 year old has been to Supercheap Autos and bought all the bolt-on and stick-on crap they can to make it "fully sick"

It looks like they've solen a designer from FPV!!!!

http://images.theage.com.au/2009/09/09/721182/HSV_GTS_04_600-600x400.jpg

http://http://images.theage.com.au/2009/09/09/721182/HSV_GTS_04_600-600x400.jpg

[sixlta]

Recived a call from my dealer today, we will be reciving our G8 SS-V ute mid to late november. Cant wait as i ordered it in aug and was told late december.

[UTESRULE]

Recived a call from my dealer today, we will be reciving our G8 SS-V ute mid to late november. Cant wait as i ordered it in aug and was told late december.

u selling ur current ssv ute

[sixlta]

Possably, working on keeping it, G8 is for Good Friend

[Redliner]

Agree with that! HSV try very hard , almost to much! Well said.

[alpha1]

I cant wait..... I,m so glad i cancelled my standard SSV for the G8, i reakon they look tops. :jester:

Its very possibble they will have a different instrumentation and tyre air pressure sensors as per the USA version....this is just speculation though.

1550 cars across all three variants in 3 different colours with the option of the A6 or M6. This means that a buyer may be driving only 1 of less than 100 in the country...and for the sportswagon and Ute thats only 1 in a hundred or so world wide.

Also a few different configurations for aftermarket grills and stuff is on Ebay...Chrome grills, Billet grills, Brushed Aluminium grills...the g8 can somewhat be personalised.

If the NYPD take on the G8 as their operational police vehicle then i think it will make the G8 even more sought after as it wont be seen as a parts bin car.

Over 900 G8 cars are already pre ordered for customers....how many will be left for sale when Holden release the vehicle offically... Holden I think the secret is out so why not release the bloody details?

Like ive said before beauty is in the eye of the beholder - so each to their own..it would be a very boring world if we all had the same dislikes and likes.

Phantom G8 ute M6-------------------------:bow:

Got my number plate ADSUTE...just need the car to stick it on.:)

Can anyone make out what wheels are on the G8 in the above pics at the dealer preview?...sort of hard to make out on the tight angle, dont look like SSV rims, i maybe wrong though.

[planetdavo]

Well I definetely don't regret choosing the MY9.5 now!!!:spew:
Buying a "10" doesn't mean you only get the option of the G8 look.

[BECAUZ]

Buying a "10" doesn't mean you only get the option of the G8 look.

The MY10 and MY9.5 are the exact same.

That is both across the M6 and A6.

There will be far to many unhappy people otherwise.

I also think a few dealers will be paid a visit by some unhappy customers, myself included, for bs'n through their grandma's flaps

[alpha1]

The MY10 and MY9.5 are the exact same.

That is both across the M6 and A6.

There will be far to many unhappy people otherwise.

I also think a few dealers will be paid a visit by some unhappy customers, myself included, for bs'n through their grandma's flaps


There are some minor changes between the My10 and My9.5...for example the My10 ute now has side curtain airbags whereas the MY9.5 didnt.

Also the A6 tunes will be different..there is a thread about this.

BECAUZ are you unhappy with your dealer...why?

[planetdavo]

BECAUZ are you unhappy with your dealer...why?
Can't spell his name right? :1peek:

[Vulture]

its been hit with an ugly stick alright ..........
(are HSV and Holden in the business of turning customers off?)

They must be, lost this punter; I won't be buying an E2 GTS.

[alpha1]

Can't spell his name right? :1peek:

what do you mean planetdavo ?

[Calais V 6.0]

what do you mean planetdavo ?


oh dear....

[hullsy2257]

Old lion what do you mean?...... there is no difference between the My10 VE SSV and MY9.5 SSV anyway.

curtain airbags in the ute, poison Ivy and Wildfire new colours and Atomic is gone.


Yes alpha1 i was referring to the HSV series 2 , even though it is only ( at this stage ) a rumour about the G8 bonnet being on them , i can't see HSV being to happy about them also being on a special edition SS/ SSV .

Cheers Old Lion

definately correct, November and December build, Bout $3k extra than standard SSV
Hullsy

[alpha1]

Cheers Hullsley,

I have not yet seen the Wildfire colour...do you know when it will be released?

Has anyone got any idea when the G8 details will be released?

What some prices that people are paying for the limited edition G8?

[boyley]

http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs211.snc1/7822_142609844897_5730024897_2458273_7625746_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2458275&id=5730024897)

http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs231.snc1/7822_142609849897_5730024897_2458274_7205844_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2458275&id=5730024897)

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs231.snc1/7822_142609859897_5730024897_2458275_5156777_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2458275&id=5730024897)

[Jonesy40]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs231.snc1/7822_142609859897_5730024897_2458275_5156777_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2458275&id=5730024897)[/QUOTE]

Love the look of the ute with the G8 front

[Smitty]

my gawd, fugley as
worse than I thought possible..........:flipoff:

[ti0350]

I'll take a wagon in phantom please

[boompy]

my gawd, fugley as
worse than I thought possible..........:flipoff:

Translated you mean "I just bought the standard VE so I will criticise any new model or variation that comes out regardless" :bawl:

I like it and reckon it looks great but I will probably hate the VF when it comes out next year and I have the G8 :flipoff:

[Deco28]

Where will they put the License and 'Holden' Plates?

[alpha1]

Translated you mean "I just bought the standard VE so I will criticise any new model or variation that comes out regardless" :bawl:

I like it and reckon it looks great but I will probably hate the VF when it comes out next year and I have the G8 :flipoff:


LoL Boompy i reakon you hit the nail on the end, there might be alot of unhappy people who have just purchased a My10.

[simon.w]

Not my cup of tea ... but can appreciate why other like it.

These sort of radical changes always polarize people ... and that's not a bad thing. Keeps the world interesting!

I have had heaps of people say they love the black wheels, black badges and track stripes on my SSV, and yet a few that have said they hate them.

All that matters is that I love it and the same goes for the SSVG8 folks.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2540/3968229990_01b342a1ac.jpg

[Smitty]

Translated you mean "I just bought the standard VE so I will criticise any new model or variation that comes out regardless" :bawl:

I like it and reckon it looks great but I will probably hate the VF when it comes out next year and I have the G8 :flipoff:

nope......nothing to do with it . I state its fugley as .....coz its a
a retrograde step in styling (and here I was thinking styling should improve)

why give us aussies hand-me-down 2ndhand styling :flipoff: You might like to explain that!

Holden have lost the plot since Simcoe left to go to Detroit

[White Rider]

my gawd, fugley as
worse than I thought possible..........:flipoff:

Those fronts have been out for a few years, were you expecting somthing different?

[chillicatqld]

They look like Darth Vader's love child.

[alpha1]

nope......nothing to do with it . I state its fugley as .....coz its a
a retrograde step in styling (and here I was thinking styling should improve)

why give us aussies hand-me-down 2ndhand styling :flipoff: You might like to explain that!

Holden have lost the plot since Simcoe left to go to Detroit



No ones asking you to buy one, if you dont like it thats fine.... everyone is entitled to thier opinion.

However regardless of your opinion, likes and dislikes this model is going to hold much better resale value than your run of the mill SSV VE.... that alone has me sold on this vehicle as i hate loosing tens of thousands of dollars on Holdens.

For us aussies the look is quite new - so like any new look a level of controversy will follow, much the same as when the VE was released everyone hated the tail lights.

I think once these cars hit the road their looks will grow on people like every other styling change has before it.

[GODSMACK]

However regardless of your opinion, likes and dislikes this model is going to hold much better resale value than your run of the mill SSV VE....

Based on what?

[alpha1]

Based on what?

Ummmmmm I dont think you need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out.

Its a special edition vehicle, there is limited numbers --- so like every thing else that is limited or a special release then there will always be a level of demand above and beyond something that is a factory pop out.

[GODSMACK]

Ummmmmm I dont think you need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out.

Its a special edition vehicle, there is limited numbers --- so like every thing else that is limited or a special release then there will always be a level of demand above and beyond something that is a factory pop out.
Oh, i see, i never should have sold my LE Olympic Edition VT, im sure only a few thousand where made, surely it would be worth at least $500 more than other VT's of similar age/condition...

Um, noooooo, it wasnt...

:confused:

[Gee]

... this model is going to hold much better resale value than your run of the mill SSV VE.... that alone has me sold on this vehicle as i hate loosing tens of thousands of dollars on Holdens.

:lol::lmao::lol::lmao::lol::lmao:

Honestly, I do wish you luck with that though.


Where will they put the License and 'Holden' Plates?

Yes, I'm very interested to see this. Haven't found one image with a plate on.

[alpha1]

Oh, i see, i never should have sold my LE Olympic Edition VT, im sure only a few thousand where made, surely it would be worth at least $500 more than other VT's of similar age/condition...

Um, noooooo, it wasnt...

:confused:


Im not familair with that edition what did it have that other VT,s didnt other than the badges? Did it have any styling changes? did it have anything that was really unique other than the fact that it was called "Olympic edition".

Was this a limited or special edition or was it just branded Olymic because its manufacturing coincided with the Olympic games?

If you want to make comparrisions compare the SSZ vs standard SS.....I
havnt checked pricing but i am assuming the SSZ would pull better resale.

[moconn20]

If you want to make comparrisions compare the SSZ vs standard SS.....I
havnt checked pricing but i am assuming the SSZ would pull better resale.

It's increased resale would be a proportion of the extra that was paid for it...

the G8 SSV is generally $3000 more expensive that a standard SSV... so if your resale is any better than a standard SSV a few years down the track it wont be by more than $3000... meaning youve still lost money.

(and before someone tries to flame me for those figures thats based on a previous post stating it would be roughly $3000 more than a standard SSV, cbf actually looking it up or trying to get a quote)

[aedeau]

(and before someone tries to flame me for those figures thats based on a previous post stating it would be roughly $3000 more than a standard SSV, cbf actually looking it up or trying to get a quote)

I thought I read that it was a 1k premium over standard?

[sjhugh]

Special Edition Vacationer II what a desirable vehicle.

When has a special edition anything attracted a premium resale other than from the gullible. It’s not a W427, it’s a body kit that will instantly date the car to a period. No different to a hero colour further down the track.

[alpha1]

Special Edition Vacationer II what a desirable vehicle.

When has a special edition anything attracted a premium resale other than from the gullible. It’s not a W427, it’s a body kit that will instantly date the car to a period. No different to a hero colour further down the track.


Comparring an SS/SSV to a Vacationer lol....w/e

I think comparing special edition pop out family cars vs special edition limited performance cars is a joke.... but thats just my opinion, like i said comapre apples for apples and use the SS vs SSZ as an example not bloody family cars which thousands of special edition runs are produced. These G8 versions only have 500 made of each variant...


It's increased resale would be a proportion of the extra that was paid for it...

the G8 SSV is generally $3000 more expensive that a standard SSV... so if your resale is any better than a standard SSV a few years down the track it wont be by more than $3000... meaning youve still lost money.

(and before someone tries to flame me for those figures thats based on a previous post stating it would be roughly $3000 more than a standard SSV, cbf actually looking it up or trying to get a quote)


Moconn i had a My10 ordered and cancelled it for the Special edition... the special edition cost me $300.00 more.

Im not on here to debate personal opinions, you believe what you will and time will tell.

[Gee]

There doesn't seem to be any difference between CV8-Z and CV8-R with the other CV8s all things being equal. I'd happily pay a minor premium for either of the R's as they were spectacular paint/trim combos, especially the first one - but it would have to come down to it being the best condition car on offer first, special edition second.

Anyway, the pontiac front is pretty dramatic as far as 'special editions' go so you never know. The taste of car fans can be a weird and unpredictable thing.

Possibly the point about the Olympic and Vacationer :stick: you're copping is that some people special editions as a bit cynical, marketing shite, parts bin, etc. etc. Some are going to say its ruined a perfectly good Aussie car with US looks, like all the stupid Chev badge bickering that goes on.

You like it, so that is all that matters. I reckon once people work out which number plate suits the front, etc. they will look tough and a little different - so enjoy it for what it is, a really nice ride :)

[alpha1]

There doesn't seem to be any difference between CV8-Z and CV8-R with the other CV8s all things being equal. I'd happily pay a minor premium for either of the R's as they were spectacular paint/trim combos, especially the first one - but it would have to come down to it being the best condition car on offer first, special edition second.

Anyway, the pontiac front is pretty dramatic as far as 'special editions' go so you never know. The taste of car fans can be a weird and unpredictable thing.

Possibly the point about the Olympic and Vacationer :stick: you're copping is that some people special editions as a bit cynical, marketing shite, parts bin, etc. etc. Some are going to say its ruined a perfectly good Aussie car with US looks, like all the stupid Chev badge bickering that goes on.

You like it, so that is all that matters. I reckon once people work out which number plate suits the front, etc. they will look tough and a little different - so enjoy it for what it is, a really nice ride :)



Thanks Gee, nice to hear something refreshing and positive....... it does get a little bit dark listening to all negativity that people carry on with.

[sjhugh]

Alpha, good luck with your car, I certainly don’t have an issue with its looks, I’ve seen a few on the U.S. websites with some tasteful mods that look very horn. The term ‘Special Edition’ is a turn off though. I’ve owned a lot of cars over the years and I always outlaid the cash because I like them, I’ve never said to anyone I’ve brought one because it has a good resale. Unless you’re lucky enough to find the right buyer, I believe the resale will be minimal in difference to an SSV of the same year. If I’m wrong and they do become an exclusive that everyone wishes they had, then good luck to you. You’ll also be welcomed to the world of the genuine HSV owner and see all the aftermarket copies driving around. In fact the Aussie SSV owners can swap body kits with the Yank G8 owners who what the Commodore look all for the price of overseas freight. I’m cynical I know but to me it’s a marketing ploy to move excess parts stock, nothing more.

[lowriding]

wouldnt mind one of the utes ... look tough

[alpha1]

Alpha, good luck with your car, I certainly don’t have an issue with its looks, I’ve seen a few on the U.S. websites with some tasteful mods that look very horn. The term ‘Special Edition’ is a turn off though. I’ve owned a lot of cars over the years and I always outlaid the cash because I like them, I’ve never said to anyone I’ve brought one because it has a good resale. Unless you’re lucky enough to find the right buyer, I believe the resale will be minimal in difference to an SSV of the same year. If I’m wrong and they do become an exclusive that everyone wishes they had, then good luck to you. You’ll also be welcomed to the world of the genuine HSV owner and see all the aftermarket copies driving around. In fact the Aussie SSV owners can swap body kits with the Yank G8 owners who what the Commodore look all for the price of overseas freight. I’m cynical I know but to me it’s a marketing ploy to move excess parts stock, nothing more.



I do agree partly with what you are saying...I must stress though that i am not a fool, i do understand that anything with a circle around the lion will depricate quite badly. However in saying this I do look at the secondary maket when selecting a new car as i will always choose something that may not depreciate as badly as the next and try to pick something that will be relatively easy to re-sell at a later date.

For example I would never buy a hero coloured car even if I did like the colour... it just limits the audience that is in the market for a used car.

Ive done a little research and seeing as though i am in the market for a ute the best transmission for resale is the M6...some dealers wont even hold the A6 ute in their yards as they find them much harder to move. The reverse is probably the case for the sportswagon seeing as though is a vehicle aimed more at the family market.

The A6 ute is 2k extra when buying new yet the M6 pulls approx 2-3k more when on the secondary market.

I guess what im trying to say here is that my new car selections and options are somewhat based on the secondary market demand.... Used cars cop a battering here in Oz - i just try to soften the impact.

The Special edition M6 VE SSV in Phantom will depriciate, im just banking that it wont depriciate as badly as others will. Who knows i maybe wrong.

[Brandonsdad]

i think if us Aussies got the G8 look before the Yanks, then there wouldnt be a problem with it.
I reckon its just that some people are getting their noses out of joint cos we are getting second dip.
They actually look quite an aggressive car, and with the right wheels and other mods, would look very nice.

[Smitty]

from todays 'Drive' Edition

Holden ... without the badge
RICHARD BLACKBURN
October 2, 2009 - 5:43PM

Holden has released a special edition Commodore with a front end borrowed from the defunct Pontiac G8.

It’s a Commodore but not as we know it.

Holden has released the first Commodore in its history that doesn’t wear the company’s lion logo.

The new SS V-Series Special Edition range borrows the aggressive nose of the now-defunct Pontiac G8, complete with the American brand’s signature bonnet vents and “twin-nostril” grille.

Holden denies it was left with a large supply of Pontiac bonnets after the company lost a billion-dollar export deal that involved shipping Commodores to the United States and re-badging them as Pontiacs.

The new SS V-Series range is available in sedan, wagon and ute guises and comes standard with Holden’s V8 engine.

Drive has been told that Holden has ordered dealers not to discount the special editions.

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hmmm.......
make it ugly and charge more...real special
wonder if they borrowed some marketing genuises from Kraft.... :rofl:

[smokey777]

my gawd, fugley as
worse than I thought possible..........:flipoff:

totally agree Smitty. ive thought the U.S front on our cars have been shockers since the Monroe went over. really hope they dont follow yank styling with the "VF"

[simon.w]

wonder if they borrowed some marketing genuises from Kraft.... :rofl:


Hey yeah .... maybe they should call it i2G8!!!!:rofl:

[VY18s]

Am I one of the few people here that thinks the G8 grille looks tough?

I think they look great. Atleast it isn't just another sticker pack like most special editions are. If I had the money to buy a new car I would get one for sure.

[dunny15]

I have a voodoo blue ssv sedan special edition on order 6speed man with sunroof and dvd, it is getting built 1st week of nov, have already obtained all the pontiac and g8 badges, so should stand out from the others!

[chillicatqld]

Ummmmmm I dont think you need to be a rocket scientist to work that one out.

Its a special edition vehicle, there is limited numbers --- so like every thing else that is limited or a special release then there will always be a level of demand above and beyond something that is a factory pop out.



You should buy 20 of them, and kill it in extra resale in 5 years time....:smilesandbanana:
Good luck with that theory!

[bonners]

yep agreed. My 60th Ann Special Edition is really special now from what I can gauge by talking to dealers this week.....

[alpha1]

You should buy 20 of them, and kill it in extra resale in 5 years time....:smilesandbanana:
Good luck with that theory!


Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL..... buddy your really sounding like a tool.

If you can read, you would not have made this comment - read the posts numnuts.

Im not buying a special edition to make money im buying one so that i will minimize the depreciation

The Special edition SSV G8 has different styling, select colours and very limited numbers... so seriously people are kidding themselves if they think that 60th anniversary, vacationer, olypmic editions and whatever else BS editions have been released is a fair comparision.

I personally think if someone has the choice between a G8 and a standard then its really a no brainer. If you dont like the nostrels then bolt an E2 HSV bar straight onto the front.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091002/ANA02/910029991/1261&AssignSessionID=973338460529080

Does this mean that the G8 will now become the rebadged Chev.... if this is so then the only geniune Chev front ends will be the SSV Special Edition.

Forget the after market Chev badges that people stick on their cars, if you want the Chev then the SSV Special edition looks to be the one.

This will make those chev badges that people stick on the holen commodores look like childs play as their will now be a distinct difference between the Export Chev and local Commodore.

With so many Aussies hung up on the Chev thing it will be interesting to see if this impacts on the Special edition.....that is if this comes to fruition.

This will also make the whole "parts bin" concept for the SSV special edition be dead in water.

[chillicatqld]

Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL..... buddy your really sounding like a tool.

If you can read, you would not have made this comment - read the posts numnuts.

Im not buying a special edition to make money im buying one so that i will minimize the depreciation

The Special edition SSV G8 has different styling, select colours and very limited numbers... so seriously people are kidding themselves if they think that 60th anniversary, vacationer, olypmic editions and whatever else BS editions have been released is a fair comparision.

I personally think if someone has the choice between a G8 and a standard then its really a no brainer. If you dont like the nostrels then bolt an E2 HSV bar straight onto the front.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20091002/ANA02/910029991/1261&AssignSessionID=973338460529080

Does this mean that the G8 will now become the rebadged Chev.... if this is so then the only geniune Chev front ends will be the SSV Special Edition.

Forget the after market Chev badges that people stick on their cars, if you want the Chev then the SSV Special edition looks to be the one.

This will make those chev badges that people stick on the holen commodores look like childs play as their will now be a distinct difference between the Export Chev and local Commodore.

With so many Aussies hung up on the Chev thing it will be interesting to see if this impacts on the Special edition.....that is if this comes to fruition.

This will also make the whole "parts bin" concept for the SSV special edition be dead in water.



Hey "numbnuts" (please note correct spelling of numbnuts), I knew this was in the pipeline when I bought my SSV... I didnt want a part of it.... it looks like ass!! Same as the VE2 HSV - just too much going on on the front end. Designers should know when enough is enough I reckon.
But hey, everyone has different taste.
I just don't think that you are gonna get less depreciation than a normal vehicle.... they are all worth stuff all after 5 years!

[moconn20]

Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL..... buddy your really sounding like a tool.


Your the one sounding a bit immature with comments like that... just because someone doesnt like your new car doesnt mean they are horribly jealous of its looks because they have just bought a standard SSV.
The "king shit" act doesnt wash





Forget the after market Chev badges that people stick on their cars, if you want the Chev then the SSV Special edition looks to be the one.


Its not a chev yet, take it easy. its a pontiac front end.


The Special edition SSV G8 has different styling, select colours and very limited numbers... so seriously people are kidding themselves if they think that 60th anniversary, vacationer, olypmic editions and whatever else BS editions have been released is a fair comparision.

I personally think if someone has the choice between a G8 and a standard then its really a no brainer.

Ok we get it, you think your car is special and your justifying your purchase.
Congratulations, you are special, you are way cooler than anyone thats recently bought a plain old boring SSV.

[mattnsw]

Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL..... buddy your really sounding like a tool.


I personally think if someone has the choice between a G8 and a standard then its really a no brainer.

I agree your a no brainer. A HSV or nothing I say.

[alpha1]

Your the one sounding a bit immature with comments like that... just because someone doesnt like your new car doesnt mean they are horribly jealous of its looks because they have just bought a standard SSV.
The "king shit" act doesnt wash



Its not a chev yet, take it easy. its a pontiac front end.



Ok we get it, you think your car is special and your justifying your purchase.
Congratulations, you are special, you are way cooler than anyone thats recently bought a plain old boring SSV.



Im not the one here running other models down champ, I think that to express ones opinion is fine, but to repeat their negativity over and over again buddy just gets a little over the top :flipoff:... especially when there are members here who have purchased this vehicle, have you thought for one second Moccon that you and your mate might be offending other members with your continual rubbishing?... try posting something constructive Moccon.

I do not need to prove a point here...and i certainly have not claimed to be better than everyone else..

I suggest if you want to dribble do it elsewhere....Moconn you yourself have also done your fair share of mud slinging in past posts.

Like i have said 10 mtimes each to their own.....and yes I had the choice between the models and have chosen the limited edition, but thats because it appeals to ME.

The stock SSV is a very sexy vehicle and is popular due to its good looks, I would be very very hapy with a standard MY10 SSV vehicle aswell.... so to label me as "king shit" is way out of line.

Moconn please grow up.

[Evman]

It doesn't matter which way you look at it, Holden is using up the remainder of its G8 supplies and in doing so selling the package for a lot more than they sold in America. Win win for Holden :lol:

[moconn20]

try posting something constructive Moccon.


Mate the following quote from you sums up your attitude to a tee


Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL.

the undertones in what youre saying are hardly subtle

[planetdavo]

It doesn't matter which way you look at it, Holden is using up the remainder of its G8 supplies and in doing so selling the package for a lot more than they sold in America. Win win for Holden :lol:
Only Holden would know the answer to that. Any posts in this thread are simple guesswork.
A while back, Holden started selling a number of Chev and Pontiac grilles and badges locally though HSPO to the dealers, and sales took off. Since they know a market exists for "export look" customisation of VE, this Pontiac look VE would have been a success either way...

[gmack]

Surely if Holden just wanted to rid themselves of extra G8 parts they would just be sent to the US as spares. And we are really just talking about front bumpers as everthing else is used here on something or other.

[planetdavo]

Surely if Holden just wanted to rid themselves of extra G8 parts they would just be sent to the US as spares. And we are really just talking about front bumpers as everthing else is used here on something or other.
Exactly what I said earlier too.
The thing that many of the "non industry" members don't know is that Holden themselves stamp the vented bonnet and mould the bumpers.
With no outside supplier to meet any contracted volumes ordered on these two most expensive parts required, the glass half empty ideal of "dumping" excess parts on unsuspecting Australians fall flat.
Foglights and grilles ex Korea can be put in boxes for HSPO to sell, as they are exactly the same as production line parts, other than the packaging side of it.

[boompy]

Mate the following quote from you sums up your attitude to a tee
Originally Posted by alpha1
Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL.

the undertones in what youre saying are hardly subtle

I disagree as I have also noticed that most of the negative comments come from people who have a current shape SSV.
Both alpha1 and I intended to buy the current shape but were taken with the G8 Special Edition when we saw it and bought that instead.

I like the current shape but i like the G8 more.

Note: I have not heard alpha1 say the current shape was "fugly" as has been offered up from a few regarding the G8.

I think the agression that follows somebody telling you your 40k plus purchase is shyte, is to be expected.

A simple I don't like it because..xxxx....would suffice and leave no doubt that the opinion was based on reason rather than jealousy.

I don't think there is a need to be as rude in critisising someone elses taste as has been displayed.

[moconn20]

Note: I have not heard alpha1 say the current shape was "fugly" as has been offered up from a few regarding the G8.


He doesnt need to... as i said in my previous post some of what he has said, such as laughing at people for getting a standard SSV, implies a "high horse" attitude because he is getting the "superior" or "better" vehicle in his opinion. Hence my king shit remark on the previous page.

Good on him for getting what he wants, i think its ugly, each to their own. But if he was buying a standard SS i wouldnt be sitting here going "haha sucked in, my car is better than yours", or displaying attitudes to that effect.

[boompy]

He doesnt need to... as i said in my previous post some of what he has said, such as laughing at people for getting a standard SSV, implies a "high horse" attitude because he is getting the "superior" or "better" vehicle in his opinion. Hence my king shit remark on the previous page.

Good on him for getting what he wants, i think its ugly, each to their own. But if he was buying a standard SS i wouldnt be sitting here going "haha sucked in, my car is better than yours", or displaying attitudes to that effect.

So to sumarise you are entitled to your opinion of his car and you can tell everyone that you think it is ugly, as long as he doesn't have a go at yours by "implying" his is better than yours, without actually saying it.

Are you suffering from PMT because that sounds like something my wife would say. :goodjob:

[alpha1]

Moccon i have not once said that the I am superior to you or anyone else..nor i have i said that the standard SSV is crap or have I laughed at anyone who has purchased one, in actual fact if you read back through the posts i actually congratulate you on the purchase of your SSV in another thread.

It would seem some people use these forums to engage in arguments with other members, unfortunately it would seem that both yourself and Chillcatqld would fall into the minority. :flipoff:

From memory you continue your insults against this special edition SSV in other threads aswell....get over it mate, if your angry take it out on your dealer and not against people who have purchased one.

Read back through the posts and you will see I have also said the SSV is a very sexy machine and i would be very very happy to own one.:)

I really couldnt be bothered at responding to your latest posts but seeing as though you just cant seem to stop I hope this puts the issue to bed.

Here is some of the garbage from your mate Chillicatqld which initally fuelled this argument.

First comment


Who cares... they are extremely ugly!

Second comment


They look like Darth Vader's love child.

Third Comment


You should buy 20 of them, and kill it in extra resale in 5 years time....:smilesandbanana:
Good luck with that theory!

Fourth Comment


I knew this was in the pipeline when I bought my SSV... I didnt want a part of it.... it looks like ass!!

I find these comments insulting to those who have purchased this car, so when he was snapped back at, you decided that you should throw your 2cents in aswell.

This thread is labelled SSV special edition, why come into a thread like this and carry on with that sort of rubbish...if you dont like it then thats fine say what you need to say and then go post something constructive in a a different thread.....there is simply no need to keep rubbishing a new car release.


Ok we get it, you think your car is special and your justifying your purchase.
Congratulations, you are special, you are way cooler than anyone thats recently bought a plain old boring SSV.

?????????? please quote where I have said anything like this?



laughing at people for getting a standard SSV, implies a "high horse" attitude because he is getting the "superior" or "better" vehicle in his opinion. Hence my king shit remark on the previous page.

????????? If your going to make such claims then you wont have a problem quoting me....where have i laughed at someone who has purchased a SSV? other than Chillcatqld who didnt seem to mind insulting those who purchased a Special Edition.


I would like to think that I am respectful of other members and also mindful of the fact that other people have purchased standard SSV,s.

Yes I do think that the Special Edition will hold better resale in years to come, yes i personally do like the looks of the special edition and yes I do think that if given the opportunity in the same market at the same price the Limited edition would be a better choice over a standard vehicle. But hey these are just my personal thoughts.....they are not insulting towards anyone.

Moconn like I said before i really think you need to grow up and just move forward, these forums are a medium for people to talk and discuss topics not for a load of your bickering.:flipoff:

[Evman]

Only Holden would know the answer to that. Any posts in this thread are simple guesswork.
A while back, Holden started selling a number of Chev and Pontiac grilles and badges locally though HSPO to the dealers, and sales took off. Since they know a market exists for "export look" customisation of VE, this Pontiac look VE would have been a success either way...

Now Davo I'm usually on your side with things but I very seriously doubt that Holden would have released a G8 styled car if things didn't go belly up in the US. I may have been wrong about the usage of remaining parts, but Holden is still making a win win from it because they get to continue using the presses and moulds to regain the costs. And they're still selling it for a higher price than they did in the US.

[alpha1]

Now Davo I'm usually on your side with things but I very seriously doubt that Holden would have released a G8 styled car if things didn't go belly up in the US. I may have been wrong about the usage of remaining parts, but Holden is still making a win win from it because they get to continue using the presses and moulds to regain the costs. And they're still selling it for a higher price than they did in the US.


Hey there Evman, alot of car companies are offering limited/special editions at the moment, i think its just that time of the year when sales slump a bit and the manufactures try to inject a boost in the terms of offerings.

To answer your question i do think the G8 front would have been offered regardless of what has happened to Pontiac... Like Davo has said the marketing people at Holden know what the consumers want....so i guess its just a smart offering by Holden.

Davo probably knows better than I, but i was told by a reliable source that pre-orders for these vehicles has exceeded 900 even before the public release.

Davo are you certain that these will be limited to 1500 or so?

As far as OS prices go, well the USA market is huge and I guess Holden needed to be competitive with its pricing to make the G8 a success....if it meant moving 10x the Australian sales in a overseas market then its a smart move to take a smaller margin on a significantly larger volume of cars sales.


Cheers

Adam

[moconn20]

If your going to make such claims then you wont have a problem quoting me....where have i laughed at someone who has purchased a SSV? other than Chillcatqld who didnt seem to mind insulting those who purchased a Special Edition.


Let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL.

Oh sorry, didnt realise there were special exceptions

[chillicatqld]

????????? If your going to make such claims then you wont have a problem quoting me....where have i laughed at someone who has purchased a SSV? other than Chillcatqld who didnt seem to mind insulting those who purchased a Special Edition.


I wasn't insulting you mate.... I was insulting the designers/Holden who decided it looked OK. Get over it!
Buy what YOU like, not someone on a forum.
I am allowed to express MY opinion on the look of this car without having to cop anger back from someone who is purchasing this vehicle. :confused::vpo:

[Knight Phlier]

Silver SEMA looks tough, the Pontiac front i like as well... But adding my two cents (And not flaming anyone!) Why oh why do GM have to put a vented bonnet on every single muscle car this year! With the pontiac it does make sense as the Pontiac front end was designed with venting in mind. But it seems like the latest fashion fad - Every muscle car this year from GM has come out with Bonnet Vents! It is like Bob Lutz or some other clutz won't approve a design without some venting going on! Do the vents actually improve performance as I understand it is purely there for show (Same for vents where the indicator is).

[boyley]

if anyone buys one in phantom and doesnt like the front i'll swap my as new stock front with you

[mrtockley]

Now Davo I'm usually on your side with things but I very seriously doubt that Holden would have released a G8 styled car if things didn't go belly up in the US. I may have been wrong about the usage of remaining parts, but Holden is still making a win win from it because they get to continue using the presses and moulds to regain the costs. And they're still selling it for a higher price than they did in the US.

Yeah I'm with Evman here too. Doesn't anyone think it's strange that this supposed limited edition G8 SSV will be the first Commodore ever not to be released with a Holden badge? If this had any forethought, you'd think the Lion would have been incorporated into the design ages ago. The G8 front ends were (as far as I know) a purely American request / demand and were never designed to be backwards compatible for a Holden fit out - hence the weird indicators in the bumper mold. And where are the rego plates going to go?

[alpha1]

????????? If your going to make such claims then you wont have a problem quoting me....where have i laughed at someone who has purchased a SSV? other than Chillcatqld who didnt seem to mind insulting those who purchased a Special Edition.


I wasn't insulting you mate.... I was insulting the designers/Holden who decided it looked OK. Get over it!
Buy what YOU like, not someone on a forum.
I am allowed to express MY opinion on the look of this car without having to cop anger back from someone who is purchasing this vehicle. :confused::vpo:



Why would you come into a Holden forum and insult Holden... fair enough to make your point but to keep throwing immature comments around just gets a little bit too much. Try going into a Ford forum and harp on how Fords look like ass.....see if you attract a backlash?

Its not just the Holden Designers that think it looks ok....there are quite a few members here who like it aswell... it does seem that a select few seem to have their back arched and are hell bent on running this model down...funny thing is, this select few are those who have recently purchased a My9.5 SSV..... im not sure why this is?, hence my inital comment "Chillicatqild, let me guess you have recently purchased a VE SSV LOL.

Nothing against the VE SSV but more aimed at those who for some unknown reason have their hackles up.

Just out curiosity Chillicatqld and Moccon do you both own a fairly recent SSV?


Yeah I'm with Evman here too. Doesn't anyone think it's strange that this supposed limited edition G8 SSV will be the first Commodore ever not to be released with a Holden badge? If this had any forethought, you'd think the Lion would have been incorporated into the design ages ago. The G8 front ends were (as far as I know) a purely American request / demand and were never designed to be backwards compatible for a Holden fit out - hence the weird indicators in the bumper mold. And where are the rego plates going to go?


Hi there Mrtockley, I do think you are correct in saying that this facelift was never intented for the Aussie market, however due to its popularity in the USA and due to the good sales of SSV's in Australia then i guess marketing departments have thrown this in the mix to compete with other companies offering special edition cars this time of the year.

Remember this is a limited run of cars only and is not a permanent change for the SSV, as far as the side indicators go and other features that are so "Americanized"...well i persoanlly think thats all part of the attraction as this is the geniune export look.

[Smitty]

......... And where are the rego plates going to go?

here........

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/11/Pontiac_G8_GXP_Nurburgring.jpg

mmmm... :eyes:

[mrtockley]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs231.snc1/7822_142609859897_5730024897_2458275_5156777_n.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=2458275&id=5730024897)

Without wanting to sound like a complete tard (re the rego plate comment) - from this pic, the front has a distinct line down the center that doesn't look like it would fit a rego plate without bending it ..

I reckon these will sell, but the limited edition part is a wank IMO and I don't really think that it will do anything to hold resale over any other similar year model SSV. The nostrils are ineffective and if anything will bugger up the drag coefficient. Personally I think they (Holden) should have waited until they hopefully pick up another export program - such as the NYPD cop cars etc and kept the American front for America. No Holden badge on a Holden? What's up with that?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/11/Pontiac_G8_GXP_Nurburgring.jpg

And what's the go with this car? It's an SSV with a Pontiac front end running what looks like HSV wheels ? ? Edit - oops! This is prolly an old Pontiac test car being left hook and all ..

[Smitty]

...........
Its not just the Holden Designers that think it looks ok................

we dont know that they do........

remember that Pontiac USA provided Holden
with this front end design for the G8...to suit their american market

[KPWISHN]

And what's the go with this car? It's an SSV with a Pontiac front end running what looks like HSV wheels ? ?

Looks like it's got a roll cage too.

[`redoctober]

If any of you guys noticed in that picture, it's a LHD. That is one of the test mules for the G8's before they were released, and not the Special Edition SS.. Which explains the mix and match everything.

[Brandonsdad]

I cant believe people whinging about the G8 look. If you dont like it, dont buy one. If you like it, then get one instead of the usual SS-V.
Pretty easy.
By the way, who cares if they were the G8 leftovers. Is it that big a deal.
We all want to be able to choose from a large variety of modifications to our cars, and now that we have another choice, people still cry about it.:bawl:

[alpha1]

Alot of cars dont have completly flat surfaces for number plates, they usually just use a backing plate which takes up any uneven surfaces.

As for the "no badge on a holden"... who really cares, most people remove the badges anyway...some even repace them with Chev badges. Nothing looks worse than a car with badges all over it. So i think its bloody great that they have not defaced the car.

The SSV and the Pontiac are identical other than the Bonnet and front bar..the only other bits and pieces that are different is the Calais chrome detailing above the rear number plate and around the window trims which is also used in the Special Edition SSV and the G8.

Our Special Edition is the equivalent to the yanks sports edition G8 Gt as it comes with the alloy faced pedals,19 inch rims and large screen display.

Cars never seem to look as good in pics as they do in the flesh, the Special edition lowered with dark tint and a few little mods will look mean as. Those pumped guards, big nostrels and bonnet scoops all add to the muscle car stance.

As for the bonnet scoops not serving a purpose, well i guess your right...but the presence of these cars is just as important as their performance... or the same could be said about those who opt for larger rims or even ask why the meaningless vented front guards. It looks great and at the end of the day its the street appeal that sells.

[Grinded]

Thought a few might be interested in this, whats the opinions??



1 ONLY NEW 2009 MY10 HOLDEN VE COMMODORE SSV LIMITED EDITION AUTO SPORTWAGON

GST EXCLUSIVE LIST PRICE: $53,900.00

LESS FLEET DISCOUNT: -$3,636.00

OPTIONS: Metallic Paint $454.00
Fullsize Spare $318.00
Window Tint $300.00
1600KG Towbar $700.00
Cargo Barrier $600.00
Bonnet Protector $100.00
Headlight Protectors $70.00
Bonnet Protector $70.00 $2,612.00

DELIVERY: $905.00

TOTAL SUBJECT TO GST: $53,781.00

GST @10%: $5,378.10

ON ROAD COST: Stamp Duty $2,486.00
Registration $650.45
CTP Insurance Premium $299.73
GST $29.97
Admin Fee $40.10
Luxury Car Tax $593.70 $4,099.95


TOTAL DELIVERED PRICE: $63,259.05

[R8tourer]

Geez... i'd rather pay a little more and get a HSV at that price?

[Grinded]

Geez... i'd rather pay a little more and get a HSV at that price?

Yeah, I was thinking along those lines...normal ssv might be the better way to go, not sure if I like the look of them with the g8 front end.

[alpha1]

Hi Grinded,

I know different states have different taxes etc etc.....

Pricing that I was quoted is pretty close to what you have there....Manual Limted edition SSV sports wagon i was quoted $56k driveway with no added options.

Dealers are not being as flexible with this Special edition as they are with the non-special edition version, i know you can pick up a Standard SSV wagon in Auto loaded with goodies for about 55k driveway.

There is a "what did you pay" thread, you might find some helpful info there.

[boompy]

Why is everybody on about the "No holden Badge".
There is still one on the tailgate or boot lid.
Still one on the steering wheel.

If they mount one on the front i guess it will solve the problem of where to put the number plate.

Has anyone had a look at alot of other cars that were designed without front number plates in mind.

If Holden decided to make a Camaro replica would everyone say it looked shyte because they couldn't bolt a number plate to the front with a "purpose built" number plate area????
I'd still buy one if I could afford to.

If Ferrari stopped manufacturing and their left over engines were available to put into Camry's....I would buy one....but i would rebadge it.

[Grinded]

Was it a lease quote or a normal quote? The one I posted above was a leased price..

[sheeks84]

Without wanting to sound like a complete tard (re the rego plate comment) - from this pic, the front has a distinct line down the center that doesn't look like it would fit a rego plate without bending it ..

I reckon these will sell, but the limited edition part is a wank IMO and I don't really think that it will do anything to hold resale over any other similar year model SSV. The nostrils are ineffective and if anything will bugger up the drag coefficient. Personally I think they (Holden) should have waited until they hopefully pick up another export program - such as the NYPD cop cars etc and kept the American front for America. No Holden badge on a Holden? What's up with that?

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/11/Pontiac_G8_GXP_Nurburgring.jpg

And what's the go with this car? It's an SSV with a Pontiac front end running what looks like HSV wheels ? ? Edit - oops! This is prolly an old Pontiac test car being left hook and all ..

Thats a pilot build G8 GXP. I believe that photo was taken at the Nurburgring, as part of testing before the cars release. I remember seeing this car at the Bend not long before it was shipped over.

[Vulture]

TOTAL DELIVERED PRICE: $63,259.05

:eek: :shock:

For the price you could pick up a 'normal' SSV I think you'd be bonkers to pay that much for the Special Edition whatsamacallit. ie there is no way it is going to be worth $10 000 more than a standard SSV come resale time...lunacy IMO but hey, you go for it.

[sixlta]

been told by my dealer, 2K on top of my10 model, so think 63k is a tad over the top, as i said, picked up a ve ss-v ute (g8) for 42k, could have had the my10 for 40k

[MTC]

Thought a few might be interested in this, whats the opinions??

1 ONLY NEW 2009 MY10 HOLDEN VE COMMODORE SSV LIMITED EDITION AUTO SPORTWAGON


TOTAL DELIVERED PRICE: $63,259.05

That price is crazy:rofl: i Just got My HSV tourer wagon for less then that (a lot less):confused:

[Grinded]

Yeah thats why I threw it up there. Bloody ridiculous. No way in hell I would pay that much for it, I'd be down the road in a SRT8 or R8 touring for those sort of dollars.

If this is how they are trying to sell cars no wonder they are in trouble. Understandably they said they won't be discounting the "limited edition" but for the same dollars I think they will see more people driving down the road in their HSV.

[moconn20]

Just out curiosity Chillicatqld and Moccon do you both own a fairly recent SSV?


Yep, 9.5 SSV Sportwagon... oh and before you jump on that jealousy high horse again i had the choice of 9.5, 10 or the "special edition"... and deliberately steered well clear of it. its ugly.

[boompy]

Yep, 9.5 SSV Sportwagon... oh and before you jump on that jealousy high horse again i had the choice of 9.5, 10 or the "special edition"... and deliberately steered well clear of it. its ugly.

Good to see you are still adding plenty to the thread moconn20.

I have read through your posts and I think everybody is clear on the fact that:

a) You think it is ugly.
b) You think we didn't know you thought it was ugly, so you thought you would mention it again.
c) You are going to add nothing to this thread, if all you do is continue to tell us you think it is ugly.

Anyway-
I have been given my delivery date today of 2nd November (out of production).
Dealer says that they will see it 48hrs after that.

Might have one of the 1st by the look of it.

[sixlta]

Good to see you are still adding plenty to the thread moconn20.

I have read through your posts and I think everybody is clear on the fact that:

a) You think it is ugly.
b) You think we didn't know you thought it was ugly, so you thought you would mention it again.
c) You are going to add nothing to this thread, if all you do is continue to tell us you think it is ugly.

Anyway-
I have been given my delivery date today of 2nd November (out of production).
Dealer says that they will see it 48hrs after that.

Might have one of the 1st by the look of it.


:rofl::goodjob:

Was given the same delivery dates, looks like there pumping them out!

[UTESRULE]

been told by my dealer, 2K on top of my10 model, so think 63k is a tad over the top, as i said, picked up a ve ss-v ute (g8) for 42k, could have had the my10 for 40k

when do u pick it up

[sixlta]

early november mate, been told first week but betting on second.:)

[UTESRULE]

early november mate, been told first week but betting on second.:)

not bad on the price and deleivery time is that for ppl who ordered early in the year if ordered now would u have to wait longer or u not sure any dif between vic and nsw price etc

[alpha1]

:goodjob: great news sixlta...i was also told mine would be getting built on the 2/11/09.

I have it on good authority that some of these have already rolled off the production line so we might be in for a pleasant suprise.

$42k is great going mate, what colour did you end up picking?...I paid $42800 for phantom M6.

I have also priced up the king springs matched with Monroe Gt shocks, pacemaker headers and manta sports exhaust. I think the GTS rims would also look great on the G8 :smilesandbanana:

Cant wait to see all the pics start comming in.

[KuRT12]

Thats a pilot build G8 GXP. I believe that photo was taken at the Nurburgring, as part of testing before the cars release. I remember seeing this car at the Bend not long before it was shipped over.
Why would it have vic plates for Nurburgring??

[UTESRULE]

Why would it have vic plates for Nurburgring??

good question

[planetdavo]

Now Davo I'm usually on your side with things but I very seriously doubt that Holden would have released a G8 styled car if things didn't go belly up in the US. I may have been wrong about the usage of remaining parts, but Holden is still making a win win from it because they get to continue using the presses and moulds to regain the costs. And they're still selling it for a higher price than they did in the US.
You need to remember that the dive in large car sales has led to VE volumes being roughly 40% down compared to VY only 6 years ago, and Holden have already introduced a number of limited editions since VE came out to boost sales.
They didn't release a "Pontiac" Monaro in Australia when US sales fell well short of expectations, in a time when Holden was selling plenty more cars...:teach:
Anyway, as VESS60 says perfectly well. What's it really matter anyway, other than a p!ssing contest, why this car has been released or whether people like it or not? I find 20 inch fully sik chrome rims to be about the most rectal churning blight on our streets around, but some people love them. It's their money, so it's their choice to buy them, just as it's the paying customers choice to buy the "G8" VE, rather than the internet forum style police deciding.

[6Sixes6]

My first post so I appologise if it screws up.

Planetdavo, completely agree. If you like it, buy it. As i believe someone has already said, the world would be a boring place if everyone had the same taste.

Personally I like the look of the G8 front on the ute and wagon. The sedan however doesn't appeal to me one bit.

I ordered my G8 ute back in august (I had the options of the regular SSV 9.5 or 10 aswell but chose the G8). I ordered a M6 in phantom. Final drive away price from my dealer was just over $57k. I did get a little carried away with extras (20" Fluxus shadow chrome wheels x5, SS floor mats, alarm upgrade, lock nuts, twin hump tonneau, built it sat nav, red leather trimmed steering wheel, red leather gear knob, cargo floor mat liner, rear park assist, window tint, full size spare as aparently 20" wont fit as a spare, if anyone knows otherwise please let me know)

The price might not be the best around but other dealers I spoke to wanted to tell ME what I wanted and didn't want to be anywhere near competitive. (If they even called me back) :vpo:

I've been told its scheduled with the first builds and from there goes to HSVi then I'll take delivery in december. This was only an estimate from the dealer and I dont have any set dates.

If anyone's got any pictures from the ute's release at deni I'd love to see them.

[alpha1]

Hi 6sixes6, welcome to the forum buddy...and congrats with your purchase. Sounds like a great package you have there, loaded up with all the goodies.

I too was looking for info on the Deni release, i havnt checked youtube ovewr the last 24hrs so ill check that soon.:goodjob:

Anyway mate keep us posted... did you get the auto or manual?

cheers

Adam

[sixlta]

:goodjob: great news sixlta...i was also told mine would be getting built on the 2/11/09.

I have it on good authority that some of these have already rolled off the production line so we might be in for a pleasant suprise.

$42k is great going mate, what colour did you end up picking?...I paid $42800 for phantom M6.

I have also priced up the king springs matched with Monroe Gt shocks, pacemaker headers and manta sports exhaust. I think the GTS rims would also look great on the G8 :smilesandbanana:

Cant wait to see all the pics start comming in.

Yeah black M6 mate, ended up gettin egr lid for 2k aswell

[alpha1]

Did you get the EGR lid from the dealer?...also was it the twin hump style?.

I reakon the twin hump EGR lid looks nice, especially on the Atomic and Phantom Utes.

[6Sixes6]

Hi 6sixes6, welcome to the forum buddy...and congrats with your purchase. Sounds like a great package you have there, loaded up with all the goodies.

I too was looking for info on the Deni release, i havnt checked youtube ovewr the last 24hrs so ill check that soon.:goodjob:

Anyway mate keep us posted... did you get the auto or manual?

cheers

Adam

Thanks mate, I'm looking forward to it. I went with the manual. I cant bring myself to drive an auto (where's the fun in that)

[brizzyboymatt]

Come on Aaron...the active select auto can be fun?? But yea would have got a manual if I had found one in Morpheous when I was looking...

[6Sixes6]

Come on Aaron...the active select auto can be fun?? But yea would have got a manual if I had found one in Morpheous when I was looking...

I think 6.0 litres will make anything fun but for an extra $2k I'll pass on the auto. Wouldn't mind it in morpheous though or with the WP power pack.:goodjob:

[UTESRULE]

My first post so I appologise if it screws up.

Planetdavo, completely agree. If you like it, buy it. As i believe someone has already said, the world would be a boring place if everyone had the same taste.

Personally I like the look of the G8 front on the ute and wagon. The sedan however doesn't appeal to me one bit.

I ordered my G8 ute back in august (I had the options of the regular SSV 9.5 or 10 aswell but chose the G8). I ordered a M6 in phantom. Final drive away price from my dealer was just over $57k. I did get a little carried away with extras (20" Fluxus shadow chrome wheels x5, SS floor mats, alarm upgrade, lock nuts, twin hump tonneau, built it sat nav, red leather trimmed steering wheel, red leather gear knob, cargo floor mat liner, rear park assist, window tint, full size spare as aparently 20" wont fit as a spare, if anyone knows otherwise please let me know)

The price might not be the best around but other dealers I spoke to wanted to tell ME what I wanted and didn't want to be anywhere near competitive. (If they even called me back) :vpo:

I've been told its scheduled with the first builds and from there goes to HSVi then I'll take delivery in december. This was only an estimate from the dealer and I dont have any set dates.

If anyone's got any pictures from the ute's release at deni I'd love to see them.

did u get a quote on the 9.5 amd my10 or didnt bother

[6Sixes6]

did u get a quote on the 9.5 amd my10 or didnt bother

was told it would be $1k cheaper for the 10 and about $2.5k cheaper for the 9.5 but the dealer told me I might not be able to get all the extras on the 9.5. One dealer was around $3k-4k more (than the dealer I went with) and seemed rather pissed off when I wouldn't sign on so I won't ever be having anything to do with that place again.:flipoff:

Other places were close but a little bit more and the rest said they'd get back to me and didn't, guess they've got enough business and didn't need my money.

[UTESRULE]

would 38k be a good price for a brand new my9.5 ve ssv ute manual

[smokey777]

would 38k be a good price for a brand new my9.5 ve ssv ute manual

i reckon so i paid 38990 drivaway for a (SS not V) 9.5 in july 22 with trade in

[boyley]

would 38k be a good price for a brand new my9.5 ve ssv ute manual

Thats sensatonal 2k less than what I paid:goodjob:

[6Sixes6]

would 38k be a good price for a brand new my9.5 ve ssv ute manual

:goodjob: I would have been more than happy with that when I was looking

[UTESRULE]

Thats sensatonal 2k less than what I paid:goodjob:

but remember the my10 have come out now aren t ppl picking them up for 40k

[boyley]

but remember the my10 have come out now aren t ppl picking them up for 40k

not sure mate if thats the case maybe you can get it cheaper again?

[Vulture]

The price might not be the best around but other dealers I spoke to wanted to tell ME what I wanted and didn't want to be anywhere near competitive. (If they even called me back) :vpo:

I notice you are in QLD. Similar experience to me. Seems QLD HSV/Holden salespeople aren't interested in actually selling cars...

[planetdavo]

I notice you are in QLD. Similar experience to me. Seems QLD HSV/Holden salespeople aren't interested in actually selling cars...
To think that this issue is specific to Holden/HSV (or even the car industry as a whole), is out of touch with reality.
Any business that involves someone serving you is quite capable of neglecting a customer, and often proves it.

[6Sixes6]

I notice you are in QLD. Similar experience to me. Seems QLD HSV/Holden salespeople aren't interested in actually selling cars...

Some certainly didn't seem interested. I did notice it was more the metro (Brisbane and surrounding) located dealers that seemed to treat me like I wasn't worth their time. As I moved away from that area I found the people a lot nicer to deal with. Although one of those was a dealer didn't contact me back they still seemed eager to listen to me.


To think that this issue is specific to Holden/HSV (or even the car industry as a whole), is out of touch with reality.
Any business that involves someone serving you is quite capable of neglecting a customer, and often proves it.

Agreed. In terms of car dealers I've only dealt with "a drop in the ocean" and although some didn't want to know me, others were willing to help (or at least seemed like it). It is frustrating though to put the effort in to contacting some people and be brushed off or ignore, as I work in a customer service oriented organisation and for us to do so would result in asses being kicked.

Getting back on topic, if anyone has "in the flesh" photo's of the new ute (from the deni release or otherwise) please don't hold out on us, throw them up here for all to enjoy :yup:

[boompy]

Here are a couple
http://i36.tinypic.com/begabr.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/33f49cx.jpg

http://i37.tinypic.com/6iwh9y.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/s3ztk0.jpg

[Strick]

not bad something different, im sure it will appeal to a certain part of the market. plus uses left over parts, win win for holden

[6Sixes6]

Thanks Boompy. :goodjob: I was a bit worried the front end would look way out of place but it suits nicely. Anyone else think (from the pictures) it looks a bit like a tougher VU?

[Carby650]

I quite like the look of it.. Something different.
If I was in the market for a new car and these were priced the SAME as the standard look VE then I would grab the Special Edition.

cheers
Carby650

[moconn20]

Its interesting the Ute on the right in the first photo is obviously road registered (going by the last photo) but theres no front numberplate.

Maybe they havent worked out how to mount it yet.

[boompy]

I quite like the look of it.. Something different.
If I was in the market for a new car and these were priced the SAME as the standard look VE then I would grab the Special Edition.

cheers
Carby650

$1000 extra on a 40k + ute or 50k + car is pretty damn close to the SAME

Grabbed those pics off this (http://www.ozshowcars.com/deni109.htm) site.
There are some interesting utes at Deni that is for sure

Here are a couple of beauties

http://i38.tinypic.com/311l5yt.jpg

http://i33.tinypic.com/24fwie8.jpg

[fishla]

would 38k be a good price for a brand new my9.5 ve ssv ute manual

Mate - Just buy one already!! :1peek: :jester::rofl:

That's a good price :)