VE SS Transmission Problem !!!

[eddiemonster]

Hi regarding problem with VE SS 6 Speed auto would like to know from everyone who has had a problem when slowing down to approx 27-35kph then accelerating u feel a hesitation like does not no what to do. A short message of what Holden service told u and what was done if anything.I took my 2009 VE SS MY9.5 in and service took it for a drive with computer plugged in and said it was normal hard to believe its normal :vpo::vpo: Holden complaints is due to get back to my early next week. Going all the way to get them fixed.
Thx Eddie

[EddieVE06]

As mentioned in another thread, I have the same issue. Have had a tune and a reflash but still have the same thing occurring.

Are we all sure it the auto box? could it be an engine thing? I dont know just thinking out loud. A fix would be great, I actually think it can be dangerous especially when making a manouvre to get past a car or go around a roundabout.

The whole auto box is a shambles I think. The 5 speed in my previous VE SV6 was miles ahead of the 6 speed auto.

[arboo]

A 3 speed tri-matic from a HQ would far outshine the 6 speed shamozzle :vpo:
Ruins an otherwise brilliant car :bawl:

[2ajmanvell82]

Yes know exactly wat u me trying sort mine at moment. adam From ACM here in Bathurst and i were playing with it this arvo and looking at the set up and we got it shifting quicker and more positive and seems to have made its gear selection at low speed quicker and better gut when cruising on highway and go overtake or something tries go 3rd or even 2nd and doesn't need go anywhere near these gears we having trouble trying sort that problem. Agree this my first auto coz hav no choice that they are a bit confused and my fiances sv6 auto is great! really need a fix coz love the ute but just wish i could go back manual as it wrecks a great car!!

[stu-k]

Seems strange it doesn't effect all cars, as I said in other thread mine is pretty good.

[Oztrack Tuning]

They have changed the transmission operating system and all many of the calibrations numerous times. But some aspects of their strategy can be improved.

[eddiemonster]

I no a few of u guys responded on my previous thread but this thread iam printing to show holden that iam not the only 1 with this problem so everyone you know that has this problem please let them know and write if and what holden have said to u so i can compare and if they can post what action holden took iam going to jump up and down till its all fixed not going to pay big money without a solution.
Thx Eddie

[Oztrack Tuning]

Eddie i've known of cars that have done that 3 years ago. One likely cause is very long requested shift times for kickdowns and torque reduction to protect the box.

[arboo]

I was infuriated when I provided some constructive well mannered feedback through the Holden website. After explaining how much of a loyal customer I was, and how much of a letdown the trans was on an otherwise fantastic car I was insulted by an arrogant smart arse from the customer complaints department. He basically told me I was an idiot for buying the auto and I should have test driven more thoroughly before I bought. :flipoff:

[eddiemonster]

Had a problem with my transmission as i said when going approx 28-35kph then accelerate feel hesitation last week a put 5mls of innox battery conditioner in each battery cell and much to my surprise hesitation was almost unnoticeable have the car for 3 weeks now and in engineering mode my battery charge was around 75-77% after the 5mls reached and stayed at 89% 2day i have my air con on and noticed the hesitation iam thinkin must have something to do with the power somewhere along the line
Thinking if anyone can shed some light on this very strange as soon as it demanded power cause of air con had problem again
Thx Eddie

[VECALAISV8]

The box in our Calais is no good, it always hunts and carries on, im hoping that a software flash can fix it??

[eddiemonster]

do holden do the software flash my software is the latest is that what u mean by software flash
Thx Eddie

[VECALAISV8]

Yup ours has never been done and its 08/06 plate.. Unless the dealer did it on their own accord at one of the services, but i doubt it, I always forget to tell them about it, but as its nearly outta warranty i have my list for them!

[eddiemonster]

hope that fixes the problem for u but find it odd with mine
Eddie

[LS1HVN]

I no a few of u guys responded on my previous thread but this thread iam printing to show holden that iam not the only 1 with this problem so everyone you know that has this problem please let them know and write if and what holden have said to u so i can compare and if they can post what action holden took iam going to jump up and down till its all fixed not going to pay big money without a solution.
Thx Eddie

Holden know that there is a problem, it's been said before in this thread and in other places on this forum. I've read a few of your posts, slamming different dealerships and the service you've gotten or havent gotten.

From my previous experience, i've found the best way to get yourself listened to is to be calm, rational and treat the person listening to your complaint like a human being, just as you'd expect to be treated in return.

Im not sticking up for Holden and their actions/inactions in any way, im simply saying that you carrying on like you're the only person in the history of the earth to be wronged by this problem is childish. Reading some of your posts, the language and sentence structure you use is far from the par of normality,but im not here to judge.

Sorry to seemingly be having a go at you, but i simply cant stand reading posts of people having a cry about an issue, making a one sided arguement against another party, where said party, in this case Holden are unable to defend or clarify their position, and all you're really seeking is a justification for your feelings. It, in my opinion makes the OP sound like a whiney little girl.

Hope you get your issues sorted soon.

[eddiemonster]

Hi LS1HVN i have treated the service people with the respect that i wish to be treated as well my car is only 1 month old and i have been to 4 dealers and all have said entirely different stories i then had no option but to complain to Holden to get it fixed.
My Holden case manager said what i have been told from Holden at 2 places is untrue and 2day got back to me to take it to a dealer of his choice and will get the problem fixed he received in writting from 1 of the dealers saying the car is ok and its the driver then Holden engineer came and put tec 2 and noticed the problem i was told stories from
Headlights drawing too much power
Transmission need 3,000km to wear in
Need to keep my air filter clean (only 1,200km)
Drive the car only on sports mode when accelerating
When you get told these things wouldnt you be unhappy but hope tommorrow solves my problem never treated anyone with disrespect only when they lie to me
Cheers Eddie

[alpha1]

Holden know that there is a problem, it's been said before in this thread and in other places on this forum. I've read a few of your posts, slamming different dealerships and the service you've gotten or havent gotten.

From my previous experience, i've found the best way to get yourself listened to is to be calm, rational and treat the person listening to your complaint like a human being, just as you'd expect to be treated in return.

Im not sticking up for Holden and their actions/inactions in any way, im simply saying that you carrying on like you're the only person in the history of the earth to be wronged by this problem is childish. Reading some of your posts, the language and sentence structure you use is far from the par of normality,but im not here to judge.

Sorry to seemingly be having a go at you, but i simply cant stand reading posts of people having a cry about an issue, making a one sided arguement against another party, where said party, in this case Holden are unable to defend or clarify their position, and all you're really seeking is a justification for your feelings. It, in my opinion makes the OP sound like a whiney little girl.

Hope you get your issues sorted soon.



Thats a bit HARSH,, the poor bloke has just paid megga bucks for a new car that has issues... I reakon he should be ranting and slamming the dealers, if its a well known problem then why havnt several Holden workshops been able to correct it?....

As said 100 times the A6 box standard is pretty ordinary at best - the hesitation is very noticable, i took a 9.5 A6 for another test only a few days back and the hesiatation was in the order of 1-1.5 secs, and even when it did find a gear it didnt feel right. As a result I have changed my order from the A6 to the M6.

Eddie keep us posted on your outcome.

[Parish VX]

The transmission in my VX does the same thing has no idea what it wants to do. Thats why i got the manual in my new SS.

[eddiemonster]

As on this thread transmission flat spot at 28ish kph VESS
Car only 1 month old and thought very unacceptable should b like this after going to 4 different dealers each telling me 4 diff stories i had enough got my solicitor to write holden a letter regarding all the issues i was having.
I think there is a HOLDEN GOD
Holden rang me and they had the car for 4 days picked it up 2day and so far so good drives like a new car should. When i picked it up no paper work what was done but they did something no flat spot the lady thinks they tuned it and tested and adjusted things holden is going to ring me what was done
So as LS1HVN said iam a winging girl i guess my winging paid off will keep u posted what holden fixed on my car and hope will help alot of people
Cheers Eddie
Thanks for everybodys advise:goodjob:

[Wonky]

Good stuff Eddie! :goodjob:

[HRT 8]

As on this thread transmission flat spot at 28ish kph VESS
Car only 1 month old and thought very unacceptable should b like this after going to 4 different dealers each telling me 4 diff stories i had enough got my solicitor to write holden a letter regarding all the issues i was having.
I think there is a HOLDEN GOD
Holden rang me and they had the car for 4 days picked it up 2day and so far so good drives like a new car should. When i picked it up no paper work what was done but they did something no flat spot the lady thinks they tuned it and tested and adjusted things holden is going to ring me what was done
So as LS1HVN said iam a winging girl i guess my winging paid off will keep u posted what holden fixed on my car and hope will help alot of people
Cheers Eddie
Thanks for everybodys advise:goodjob:
Now get someone to rip the tune out of it so we can all see what Holden have done.

[holdenhsv]

hi eddie i am happy for ya that you got sorted out the problem, can you tell us which dealer did you take the car pls,

[eddiemonster]

Left the car at holden head office solicitor wrote in the letter that didnt want car to go to a dealer due to all the diff diagnostics i was told so they agreed but if u take the same steps i took car must not be modified in any way they even asked if i had an amp in the car so my advise 1st step ring holden get ref number and go to dealers and see what they say ofcourse nothing worth going to solicitor pm me if u want steps that i went through
Cheers Eddie

[stu-k]

Good thing its fixed, pity you had to go to those lengths to get it done!

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

probably took it to a good tuner and got the box tune tweaked but they wouldn't admit to that :)
Mine was a shit-er to til i got oztrack to fix it
now it POWER SHIFTS :)

[eddiemonster]

I think ur spot on Atomic Maloo feels much better after all this they still wont admit to it lol
Cheers for everyone help and if i can assist anyone on this issue be glad to
Eddie

[HEXEM]

probably took it to a good tuner and got the box tune tweaked but they wouldn't admit to that :)
Mine was a shit-er to til i got oztrack to fix it
now it POWER SHIFTS :)

Might be easy to work out if they did take it to a tuner.

Do a search for tuners in the area of the Holden dealer you to the car to and had the problem fixed. Holden service generally use other services close to the dealership. Then drive to each one and ask them if they did an auto tune on your car (give them the date), tell them that it feels realy good. Then post your results here.

Then again they might be under some 'gag' clause not to tell the customer?..

Its good you can now focus on enjoying driving the car.. Its such a draining exercise trying to fix problems.

Cheers
Phil :)

[alpha1]

Left the car at holden head office solicitor wrote in the letter that didnt want car to go to a dealer due to all the diff diagnostics i was told so they agreed but if u take the same steps i took car must not be modified in any way they even asked if i had an amp in the car so my advise 1st step ring holden get ref number and go to dealers and see what they say ofcourse nothing worth going to solicitor pm me if u want steps that i went through
Cheers Eddie

Lucky you had no Mods Eddie, it sort of sux that Holden looks for any excuse not warrant issues like this. FFS wtf does an amp have to do with a well documented A6 issue.

Anyway good on you for taking it as far as you have, and a great result.:goodjob:

[Excellent]

As on this thread transmission flat spot at 28ish kph VESS
Car only 1 month old and thought very unacceptable should b like this after going to 4 different dealers each telling me 4 diff stories i had enough got my solicitor to write holden a letter regarding all the issues i was having.
I think there is a HOLDEN GOD
Holden rang me and they had the car for 4 days picked it up 2day and so far so good drives like a new car should. When i picked it up no paper work what was done but they did something no flat spot the lady thinks they tuned it and tested and adjusted things holden is going to ring me what was done
So as LS1HVN said iam a winging girl i guess my winging paid off will keep u posted what holden fixed on my car and hope will help alot of people
Cheers Eddie
Thanks for everybodys advise:goodjob:

Great stuff Eddie!!!!!! Power to the people. :D

It beats taking it to a tuner and forking out more money anyday!

It sounds like Holden have a solution that they haven't told the dealers about yet.

[eddiemonster]

I think there looking for mods not to even bother with them very sad when i dropped it off had a visual checklist but dont no if trying to be smart with me because of the solicitor letter and only received ph calls from holden no paper work to say bring the car in must be a legal thing so they dont admit to anything but car was taken to holden head office car only had been driven 2km so thinking something done there but will post what answer i get back from them
Strongly advise if car not mod get it fixed
Cheers Eddie

[BLUESSV]

The hesitation issue is well documented. The problem is caused by the Torque Management settings in the stock tune. If you're slowing down and then start to accelerate (like slowing down for a set of traffic lights and then they change), you might be accelerating whilst the trans is still in the process of changing gears. As a result the TCM commands "Zero" torque from the motor (said to be up to 0.7 sec's) to allow the trans to complete the gear change. The commanded "Zero" torque can feel longer though which would explain the 1-1.5 sec feel.

Holden has updated the software to fix this problem however some trans seem to respond better than others. The above is the cause. Once way I would suggest to fix the issue would be to adjust the power downshift times in the tune (HP Tuners or EFLive) but to leave the Torque Management "Enabled" as this allows the TCM to help achieve the desired shift times and also helps protect your box. But leaving the TQ Management "Enabled" is only a personal preference.

[eddiemonster]

Problem recurred again after 4 days of getting my car back went down hill.
Again been 2 numerous dealers not doing anything about it :flipoff:
Can someone please answer why it does not happen when i choose active select? Holden manger just says were running around circles its a characteristic of the car other words :flipoff:
Thanks Eddie

[eddiemonster]

Need help if any one has got a reference number from Holden regarding the transmission problem documented on this tread iam again having a Holden engineer came for a drive with me on Tuesday (Must be bad cause coming again just not lying down) Holden have insisted that no one has complained with a reference number please if u do message me and let me no the number so i can at least say there are others not just me.
May get a solution if u can help me to help u
Cheers Eddie

[mmjlw]

I have a 07 SSV with 154,000k’s and up until now I have had no problems. However I had a problem two days ago driving home, the contact dealer warning light the a red cross and engine warning light came on and when I stopped and place the car in park there was a clunk with the Auto transmission when I placed it in drive the same thing. I turned the car off and on a couple of times until the problem went away, Had my local holden dealership look at it yesterday and give it a service and they tell me that it is a switch in the transmission that requires replacing. other than that they couldn't tell me anything else. they put the tech 2 over it and reset the problem and informed me that it is safe to drive but couldn't guarantee that it wouldn't happen again. but it did today driving to work but this time the engine sound lumpy no power etc. I had my car converted to gas 12 months ago with no problems at my local holden dealership. Has anyone had the same problems...

[redvxr8clubby]

Lucky you had no Mods Eddie, it sort of sux that Holden looks for any excuse not warrant issues like this. FFS wtf does an amp have to do with a well documented A6 issue.

Anyway good on you for taking it as far as you have, and a great result.:goodjob:

Would probably be an extreme case, but some amps pull lots of Amps, lots of Amps causes voltage drop which perhaps could affect the computer that controls the transmission. The cars electrics are built to what Holden believe is adequate for normal day to day use in a standard car, any more than that costs extra money for beefed up wiring. Whilst it seems an extreme thing to say an amp affects the transmission, I wouldn't say that it's an impossible scenario. If this is considered a possibility then pull the main fuse from the Amp for a while, at least it's not hard to isolate the amp. Considering complaints on VE electrics over the years, I wouldn't say it's impossible, and I'm not really surprised Holden would want to eliminate factors outside their control.