Holden Cruze

[RobboSSV]

Hey guys,

Havent seen the latest VFACTS on the Cruze but have been seeing more and more on the road each day. As a matter of fact my neighbours bought a white CD petrol with 6 speed auto yesterday (I havent had a chance to talk to them about it yet). It is just the base model with darker tinted windows and in fact looks quite classy.

I know a few members have bought recently, so just enquiring on your thoughts after purchase and how long you waited for delivery.

Cheers.

Rob

[EddieVE06]

I've seen a few in the city now and they actually dont look that bad. I still think they are way to similar to the civic from the back but i like the whole side and front profile.

[smokiebbear]

Hey guys,

Havent seen the latest VFACTS on the Cruze but have been seeing more and more on the road each day. As a matter of fact my neighbours bought a white CD petrol with 6 speed auto yesterday (I havent had a chance to talk to them about it yet). It is just the base model with darker tinted windows and in fact looks quite classy.

I know a few members have bought recently, so just enquiring on your thoughts after purchase and how long you waited for delivery.

Cheers.

Rob

We brought one the other day (aug 1st) and delivery time is late october :(

cheers - matt

[aza]

We have purchased one a cdx, very slow, comparible to my daughters toyota seca 1996 model, but then again I find my new ssv slow as well, but I expected it to be a bit quicker then it is.

[blackbettyhsv]

I was talking to my local dealer last friday, he reckons the diesel is the pick of the litter as the petrol version is a little bit sluggish.
but also said wait until they are built here then they will be better again, but seeing them on the road they do look smart,. hav'nt seen any modded here yet

[Big_Valven]

If they came out like this standard, I'd take one in a heartbeat :D
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/Big_Valven/Cruze.jpg

[Deco28]

If they came out like this standard, I'd take one in a heartbeat :D
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/Big_Valven/Cruze.jpg

No.

lololol.

There is loads of Cruze's in Far North Queensland at Cairns.

Must have sold half of there total Cruze's in FNQ.

[Ausmartin1]

No.

lololol.

There is loads of Cruze's in Far North Queensland at Cairns.

Must have sold half of there total Cruze's in FNQ.

Paintshop Front treatment looks wild, but I hope they don't look like this ... no suspension and over size rims, it would be a bone shaker of a ride, not to mention you'd loose it on rough corners.
- At Least the girls would have good time on rough roads - they could call it the Cruze G SPOrT.:)

[SV6er]

I've seen a few in the city now and they actually dont look that bad. I still think they are way to similar to the civic from the back but i like the whole side and front profile.

You are right, it looks like Civic from the back :eeew:, Mazda 3 sedan (old model) from the side :doh:, front....ehm... not too bad.

Have seen few of them around town aswell, its good to see they sell well. Only problem i reckon that could costs Holden sales is they only offer diesel Cruze in CD model only (base model -> poverty pack)

[vtman]

The base model CD is actually very well equipped, especially in terms of safety features (ESP and curtain airbags).

In comparison, nothing to blow your skirt up with the CDX: 17" alloy wheels, Heatable leather appointed front seats, Front fog lamps, Chrome insert door handles, Rear park sensors.

[Marco]

Agreed. I reckon the winning combo for the Cruze is to get the CD diesel manual, and then buy a nice set of wheels for it.

[smokiebbear]

You are right, it looks like Civic from the back :eeew:, Mazda 3 sedan (old model) from the side :doh:, front....ehm... not too bad.

Have seen few of them around town aswell, its good to see they sell well. Only problem i reckon that could costs Holden sales is they only offer diesel Cruze in CD model only (base model -> poverty pack)

CDX Diesel is available now .... as in they are taking orders whilst they start building them. However as has been said not worth paying extra 3k for them.

cheers - Matt

[COSMOS]

saw a black cdx yesterday - lowered ever so slightly with a set of 18s on it and it looked pretty stylish. Of course it was petrol so probably went poorly.

I think there would be a good market for CDX diesel - especially user choosers who arent going to be paying a great deal more by the time fleet discount and novation comes into play.

[BigFella]

No.

lololol.

There is loads of Cruze's in Far North Queensland at Cairns.

Must have sold half of there total Cruze's in FNQ.

most the ones u see in FNQ are acutally hire cars!
we had one a few weeks ago.

[Deco28]

most the ones u see in FNQ are acutally hire cars!
we had one a few weeks ago.

Oic, that probably explains it.

[falcom]

The waiting list for the Cruze is now out to December.

Considering the average reviews it has been getting this is quite staggering.

Holden must be very happy with this but I am sure the lack of supply will cost them a lot of sales.

[Big_Valven]

Only thing I'm wondering about is that they had committed to building in Adelaide from 2010, but now Rann says it's in the third quarter of 2010? Does it really take almost 2 years to set up a previously used production line?

[Pickles]

Only thing I'm wondering about is that they had committed to building in Adelaide from 2010, but now Rann says it's in the third quarter of 2010? Does it really take almost 2 years to set up a previously used production line?

Aren't they going to be building a Hatch as well?....maybe this is part of the delay.
Cheers, Pickles.

[Marco]

Pretty sure they'd always said it would be from late 2010.

[FlatfootV8]

My idea of a decent Cruze would be one with a turbo V6 and AWD but make it look like a sleeper...

Call it the Cruze T2 Terminator. ;p

[calais190]

My idea of a decent Cruze would be one with a turbo V6 and AWD but make it look like a sleeper...

Call it the Cruze T2 Terminator. ;p

A real turbo 4 (real as in post 150kw) and awd on the cruze would make it something special. Would be a good daily.

[falcom]

Considering there is a long wait for the Cruze can you expect to still get a decent discount on them.I rang one dealer and he said if I wanted one I would have to pay full RRP.

I was looking at a CDX 1.8L Manual with metallic paint which has an RRP of $27,390 drive away.

Am I being reasonable to expect to get it for about $25,700 drive away considering that I do not mine waiting the three or four months it takes to get one?

Would it also be reasonable to expect there would be more margin in a CDX then a CD.(If this is correct if you were negotiating a CDX would be less than $3,000 more expensive than a CD)

[Jac001]

Only thing I'm wondering about is that they had committed to building in Adelaide from 2010, but now Rann says it's in the third quarter of 2010? Does it really take almost 2 years to set up a previously used production line?

It was always planned for 3rd Q 2010 (Start of Regular Production).

South body shop has to be completely re-tooled to biuld this new small car. So even though you can keep the robotics and transfers, everything that touchs a panel needs to be re-tooled. So even the carriers on the transfers need new tooling, and the robots will need new grippers specific to pick and move all the new panels. Welding robots may not have the correct size weld gun on them either so they may need to be replaced.

Not to mention every single jig will require replacement/ re-tooling. (and we are talking a couple of hundred of jigs)

Once you have all the equipment in place all the automation needs to be reprogrammed. This includes the placement of every spot weld to moving panels to shuttle lines.


I am not sure if panels will be pressed onsite, if so, there are several hundred die pairs that need to be made.

Molds used in injection modling need to be created for every plastic part.

New tooling needs to be installed in paint and assembly plants to carry the new small car.

Once it is all in and working then there is a 6 month pilot program (where a few hundred cars are made) to make sure we can make this car and verify that everything works and train operators and fix any manufacturing issues that are encountered.

In addition the pilots are also used for crash testing and some are given to ARRO to provide trianing cars for our emergency services.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/13327/holden-donates-75-cars-for-emergency-skills-training/

Yes, it takes a couple of years :) Most people don't relaise that toward the end of VY, equipment was being installed for VE/ WM.


Considering there is a long wait for the Cruze can you expect to still get a decent discount on them.I rang one dealer and he said if I wanted one I would have to pay full RRP.



I can't comment on pricing, but ask yourself this:

Why would they need to discount something that is selling well?

[Deco28]

I don't know if I'm more excited to see E2 or to see Augst sales for the Cruze.

[vicarious]

i had a full days drive of the cruze yesterday(ute was being service), it was a metallic black cd automatic, it wasnt a bad car to drive as we took it down to victor harbour 300km round trip.It did seem to struggle going up hills and the interior seating was comfortable & had a big boot space. The only issues i found & i hope they are addressed when built in adelaide was was hard to click the seat belts in on the front seats as the stem on the side of the seat seemed too short & hard to find.Also needed a bigger/longer armrest console between the front seats & the wiper jets should be place on the wiper like the VE as you seem to stare at them all the time.Having said that if they brought out a powerful motor like a small v6 or turbo i possibly will look at get one as a shopping cart.

[BOBGEN111]

After a test drive and talk with the bank, we have ordered a man diesel cruze.
I was very impressed with the performance and quality of the car.

Now I have to convince the boss to allow me to get it tuned up. lol

[Tyre biter]

I spent all day (today) in a CD auto and I have to say it is a nice little car that one.
Pro's; Good looking, well proportioned, heaps of leg room in front and the rear, nicely weighted steering, fantastic amount of kit in terms of goodies and safety equipment even though it seems the ESP isn't likely to be tested (see cons), interesting materials used through the interior, great instrumentation, much better cruise control-controls than Commodore, good vision, comfortable and supportive seats, the seating position was good and didn't feel like you were either buried under the steering wheel nor sitting up high, and the whole car had a solid feel to it all.

Con's; It was fairly gutless yes but the drive-train and NVH seemed pretty bloody good, traditional front-wheel drive under-steer, could have better sound-proofing (tyre noise a tad high), it was difficult to readily work out how to adjust the radio, temp settings,clock, time, and things like that, and finally it doesn't turn to sharply on the handbrake...

I'd give it a solid 7/10 for a car and when comparing it to similar small cars would raise that to 8.5/10. When you then chuck in the relatively low price of a CD then I think the rating moves more to a 9/10 in the small car segment. The only niggle I hold is that despite its good looks, modern styling and kit, that car lacks character to my mind (until night when you see the dash illuminated).

Cheers, TB

[pmac]

we took it down to victor harbour 300km round trip.It did seem to struggle going up hills

did it struggle holding 100km/h up willunga hill like a lot of diesels?
if not then its achieved a little milestone

[vicarious]

did it struggle holding 100km/h up willunga hill like a lot of diesels?
if not then its achieved a little milestone

it was petrol, and it did struggle even when the foot was down

[BOBGEN111]

When we took the diesel for a drive, it did not struggle at all with the hills. It was alot better then our ef wagon.

[Deco28]

Is the diesel sourced outside GM, or developed by GM?

From what I've heard, it's a great engine.