Goodyear Eagle F1s... Beware.

[Chappie]

Well today i had to change my tires ( Goodyear Eagle F1s 235/40/18 ) after 30 odd thousands Kms due to the Sidewalls cracking....

It seems this is common fault for all F1s made between 06 to early 08 and Goodyear have a silent recall (WTF that means i dont know!) I have contacted Goodyear and am waiting a reply. It is a warning to all with these Tyres made in this period and i urge you to check them if you have them fitted. Mine still had good tread left except 1 which was due to my alignment which is now fixed but all 4 were cracking around the sidewalls which is not good enough for a $350 tyre after 2 years. If you do have these Tyres check the Inside to as with mine only 1 was noticable from the outside and the rest were all cracking on the Inner side and quite bad to.

A Google search of my problem was quite alarming and it seems to be a worldwide problem which is not good enough for a company of their stature.
Same problem here..
http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=124197

It is safe to say i will NEVER purchase a Goodyear product again and i hope people do check theirs if they have them.

Anyway i have new Tyres fitted now :)

Cheers Chappie.

[GPT]

Very alarming and concerning for owners. I put a set of these on the SV8 back in 06 I wasn't that impressed with them considering the reviews. Only did about 15,000km on them before I got out of the lease.

1st and probably last Goodyear experience I'll have (unless fitted OEM)

[Clubb'N]

these tyres aren't even that great ... I have them fitted to my clubby up front. I will be investigating them in the immediate future.
thanks for the heads up.

[Chappie]

Agree Clubb'n but allthough i was impressed with them at first there are plenty of cheaper tyres out there that are just as good and the $$$$ they want for these Tyres are a joke.

Well they wont ever get my money again thats for sure.

Also a BIG Thanks to Black Diamond to for his advice and excellent customer service regarding the new tyres i chose and he is second to none in Melbourne for anyone that wants Tyres or proffesional no Bullshit advice with anything Rubber!

[WOMBIE]

When I bought the tyres you mention about two years ago I picked them up for $250 fitted and balanced and rated them pretty highly.Then again I may have been one of the lucky few and got a good set :confused:

On sold them to DaveHat about 12 months ago so maybe he can comment on how they're going if indeed he's fitted them up yet!

Fwiw i'm running Falkens now in 19's....

[Chappie]

Thats a Good price Wombie. I know when i got mine they were between $320 and $350 a tyre for 235/40/18 depending where you went but the price did vary from 17" and profile changes etc etc. I have not got a Price on them lately but they were my prices 2 years a go.

[Juchno]

Question to all who have bought these tyres.
Wouldnt it tell you there crap if Ford but them on there XR's?
BA-BF about the same eara of the recalls,

Good year had a few bad years.

[WOMBIE]

Yeah Chappie I must admit it was an exceptional price at the time and I did play him (Beaurepair dude @ Blacktown) hard and yes I understand with different size tyres and profiles of course.


Interesting about Ford's XR's

[DaveHAT]

On sold them to DaveHat about 12 months ago so maybe he can comment on how they're going if indeed he's fitted them up yet!.

Been on about 12 months since buying them off ya Daz & love 'em. Going strong, ZERO issues and about 50% tread presently remaining.

I run mine @ 40psi all round and wear/ride/grip is good.

Your 2nd handies is the 2nd set I've had since buying the 13.6 @ $40/week racer. The first set lasted about 2 years ... once again with zero issues other than typical Commodore shoulder wear.

[AQICLS3]

I have had about 4 sets of F1's never had a problem and love the tyres. Is there a way of telling the manufacture date?

[Chappie]

I have had about 4 sets of F1's never had a problem and love the tyres. Is there a way of telling the manufacture date?

Yep on the Tyre you should have a set of numbers like 0406 encassed in a circle. This is the month and year of the manufacture of the tyres.

In the above case the Tyres were made in the 4 Month of 2006.

[whitels1ss]

Yep on the Tyre you should have a set of numbers like 0406 encassed in a circle. This is the month and year of the manufacture of the tyres.

In the above case the Tyres were made in the 4 Month of 2006.

Not quite correct!
A mate of mine is an auto engineer, he told me that on all tyres the first two numbers are the week (of the year,) and the second two are the year.
Mine are 1906 (made 19th week 2006) :)

[Chappie]

Not quite correct! A mate of mine is an auto engineer, he told me,that on all tyres the first two numbers are the week (of the year,) and the second two are the year.
Mine are 1906 (made 19th week 2006) :)

Yep i cant argue with that, sounds good to me!! Week or Month it was one or the other!! I knew it was something like that :)

[foo27]

i have to agree with whitels1ss, the first two numbers of the four are the WEEK, the second are the YEAR. That was the first thing i was told when i was learning to drive about tyres, the second was that 34psi is the minimum for any size car tyre. I now work at a tyre centre doing wheel alignments and it is still one of the first things i check if new tyres aren't fitted.

[AQICLS3]

Just checked the 4 on the car all even wear no cracking and the 4 I have in the shed still have the stickers on them with a production date of 25/07/2008. Must have had the good ones.

[whitels1ss]

By the way, when this mate of mine was telling me about this he was saying to check your tyres on your car because if they are over 6 years old they could be unsafe.
He is often on "Today Tonight" as a consultant engineer and they were recently doing a story about a country school bus running around with 20 year old tyres on it. :confused:

[Groboz]

This is bad news indeed. I feel duped as I've just bought a set of these last month. I checked the dates and the rears were made late last year so I assume all is good; BUT the front 245/35/19s were manufactured in mid 2007. WTF ????

I feel like a fool having been talked into buying this tyre by the company in Adelaide that sold me these with the new rims I bought. I did check on the internet about reviews for this tyre but didn't read anything as bad as this.

Is there a distinction made between those tyres made in Germany and those in China? I've got the German made ones.

I'm going to give the tyre people a call later today to try and find out if they knew about this BEFORE they sold them to me. Not happy!

[TIR33D]

A prevention to this problem is to run 40psi at all times.
A tyre can still legally be sold within 5 years of manufacturing date.
Most tyres are 6 - 24 months old when fitted.
If you do have a issue with Goodyears they are well backed and you will find that you will be offered some kind of warranty.

[Desertws6]

I have Eagle F1 275/40 -17's on all 4 corners of the WS6, don't know the date. but is was prior to Oct. 2001, when I bought it. All tyres are in good shape with no cracks. The car does spend most of it's life under cover in the garage, saved for nice days only. And currently has 27,000km on the clock. Still have tread left approx 30% remaining. Tyre pressure is always maintained according to the door jamb sticker, not according to tire info.

The daily driver did come with Eagle GS 225/60 - 16's on all corners, they did begin to come apart. Had replaced with Michelin's about 2 years ago, 2 problem tyres covered under warranty.
The original Goodyears lasted for 35,000km.
(Same holds for this car on tyre pressure, with original sizes)

Cheers,
Steve

[Mad4Monaros]

Interested to hear how you go.

I had this problem around 2 years ago on my VY. I had a set of 19's (LingLangs) and I got a flat one day. As I went to change the tyre I noticed all these cracks along the inside of the wall.

So when I go home I checked the rest of them and you guessed it they were all the same. I had only had the tyres on for around 20,000km.

Went back to the place I bought them, and they said they would have to send all the tyres back for testing. They finally come back to me and said "Yes they are faulty, but we will only refund you pro-rata".

So basically I used 20,000km worth of tread, but they would refund me whats left on the tyre.

****ing joke, I was very pissed off. Had an on-going arugement which lasted around a week and couldn't get things to swing my way. I rang consumer affiars but all the stuffing around you have to go through it's just not worth it.

Good luck.

[Carby]

No cracking with my F1's - in fact they are far and away the best tyres I have used. I got 44K's out of them on my GTO when the OEM Bridgies were struggling to get 28Ks!

In fact I only buy these tyres now and they are on the SV6 - anyone who says they don't perform must be off their rocker as far as I'm concerned. They are brilliant in the dry and wet. In fact they have won several tyre comps in Europe Australia and the US.

I might add the ones I purchased were made in Germany, I do know they make them in other countries as well and maybe this is a factor on the ones that have shown signs of cracking sidewalls.

[TUFFIE]

I was at BD's when Chappy was getting these tyres checked and I must say I was very surprised how bad these tyres were cracking on the seidewalls. I know everyone says run 40 psi and it should all be good. But the recommended tyre pressues are around 28 to 34, my point is either way unless the tryres were on the car flat, the sidewalls shouldn't be cracking in any way. Specially for such a good brand name tyre.

[Chappie]

Good to hear that some have not got this problem and for where they were made i am Unsure where mine come from. Just keep an eye on em anyway fellas and not just from the outside either (Pull them off properly!!) as you dont really want a Blowout on the freeway at 100ks.

[TIR33D]

I was at BD's when Chappy was getting these tyres checked and I must say I was very surprised how bad these tyres were cracking on the seidewalls. I know everyone says run 40 psi and it should all be good. But the recommended tyre pressues are around 28 to 34, my point is either way unless the tryres were on the car flat, the sidewalls shouldn't be cracking in any way. Specially for such a good brand name tyre.

28psi will crack almost any 18' tyre.
34 would be the minimum with a preference for 38-40.
Known problem tyres ie Linglong/Triangle/Clear and even Maxxis are known to need 40psi+

[LS1-5.7]

Whilst we'te on the subject of tyres, you may want to have a look at Neuton 5000's. They come in 18's, 19's etc and after 2 years on my car have only worn 40 %, evenly across the tread and perform well wet or dry. Good tread pattern that works well. At $150 a pop they are well well worth it. With 260kw at the wheels they resist the urge to slip very well. Quiet at speed too. :) Any 18" or above tyre in a low profile needs about 40 psi but you will hardly notice if it is down in pressure so check them regularly !!! Not only will it save a certain replacement cost but might also just save your life :soap:

[Popeye1]

Im not very happy with my tyres they dont last.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w268/BRUTTAS1951/scan0016.jpg:lmao:

[Carby]

Can't imagine why.............

[Black Diamond]

If the tyre used is the right load rating for the application and is run at placarded pressures reccomended, technically there should be no tyre failures and if there is, either the tyre manufacturer or the car manufacturer should be liable for any tyre failures (in my opinion) excepting road hazard issues. But we know that is not always the case, and the Car Manufacturer will always handball it to the tyre manufacturer.

Most of us know slightly higher pressures can benefit greatly in most cases, but the first thing a tyre manufacturer will ask when a tyre is sent in for possible warranty is if the pressures run were as reccomended by the car manufacturer, and if the correct load rating was used.

Obviously there was an issue of some sort if a "silent recall":lol: was issued.

Chappie im glad your happy with the new tyres, i think they are a much better choice. Always a pleasure. :goodjob:

Thanks Again.
John:)

[Chappie]

Chappie im glad your happy with the new tyres, i think they are a much better choice. Always a pleasure. :goodjob:

Thanks Again.
John:)

No Probs John :bow: