HSV E-Series 2 launched

[mutual_master]

Whaddya reckon? Might need to grow on me...

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/41902/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range-launched

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-050.jpg

[Quick VE GTS]

I hate to say it... but did they get a Korean designer, looks like a pimped daewoo front bar..:confused:

But I'm sure it will grow on me.. I hope so anyway

[Vulture]

Not too bad at the front but still too busy; the rear is hideous. Senator easily the pick of the bunch.
I wish HSV would appreciate that those of us who can afford one of these are none to pleased with the riced up look!

[macca_779]

Its always hard to tell in pics but to me the front bar extends to far at the lower edge.. Gives the impression its got a fat lip.

[RED R8]

Im a big fan of less is more and the E2 needs less. It seems very busy and trying too hard. BUT I need to see one in the flesh.Im dont like any of the new wheels either.

[Uwish]

As I have said I am happy I have an E1.
Not a fan of the E2.

[Quick VE GTS]

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-061.jpg

I cant stand the rear.... what have they done to my beloved Holden
:spew:

Wonder how a custom zaust will fit. Squarish I guess :confused:

Was going to upgrade this week, but I think not now..

[Nidz]

It looks like they have tried to take a Series 1 and add all the cool stuff on the front of an Audi R8...


As for the rear, that's something completely different.. Not sure how much I like it..

[M1SSV8]

Its nice!! Not worth the hype it got though.

I do like it though.

[SV805]

I think the colour has a lot to do with it. I think the Grey Clubsport doesn't look as busy and the back is certainly better in grey.

Also agree not a fan of any of the wheels. Hope they look alot better in the flesh

[livewildcard]

I still haven't made up my mind on them.

Whats this world first they were talking about too?

[GTS307]

Overall dont really like it. Like the leds and the rear exhausts tho. Need to see the car in the flesh

[Mix 6000]

Front:spew::spew::spew:
rear:spew::spew:

[Excellent]

What do I think?

Do you want the good news first or the bad news?

BAD.......... Clubsport and GTS look abysmal (from pics alone) :bawl:


GOOD........ Senator and Grange look the goods, both aggressive and beautiful. (from pics alone) :goodjob:

[Mega76]

:spew::spew::spew: ......Not my cup of tea at all. Very Korean & over done. Even if I saw the E2 in the flesh I reckon E1 will kill it in the looks department. Lucky I don't have the coin to spend on a E2 let alone a E1 :)

[steve_t]

I also wrote in Ryzz's thread but it needs authorization. What's Extended Cruise Control?
The only one I really like the look of is the Senator... but it would be good if my E1 Maloo had 6 air bags, subwoofers, and a light in the tray. Good improvements :goodjob: Oh and tyre pressure monitors. What about my auto-up windows?

[XLR8 V8]

I also wrote in Ryzz's thread but it needs authorization. What's Extended Cruise Control?

It controls braking too.

[Biggie86]

they should have done something to the side skirts doesnt blend in right they are to plain

[EddieVE06]

What the hell is a shockwave grill?

Frankly, IMO sometimes less is more and unless these pictures do not do any justice to the HSV's, they look like older riced up lancers and civics (no offence to their owners):eek:

[Dav0]

When i caught a glimpse of the the pic, browsing on my phone, i thought it was a pic of an evo or something. I dont really like it, rear end looks like a mess

[boyley]

This is the pick of the bunch





http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2010_hsv_e2_senator_01.jpg

[C4B]

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-061.jpg

I cant stand the rear.... what have they done to my beloved Holden
:spew:

Wonder how a custom zaust will fit. Squarish I guess :confused:

Was going to upgrade this week, but I think not now..

http://www.dpccars.com/photos/08-21-07-02-Toyota-Aurion-TRD.jpg

[livewildcard]

Aurion photo's brilliant.
And this world first, which now is an australian first of the "launch control"....I hope thats not it.

Something new, different and exciting? Haven't seen it yet. And i mean that in terms of things that aren't already out there.

The car itself is exciting and new. I think. Maybe. Depends on them in the flesh.

[brentonsav]

In Ryzz's thread he stated that the Senator has launch control (in manual only). Does this mean that the Senator is available in manual again?

[VECALAISV8]

Ill take a white maloo.. Dont like the rear of the sedans, the front has grown on me, but whats the go with that rear!!!

Senator = :bawl:


In Ryzz's thread he stated that the Senator has launch control (in manual only). Does this mean that the Senator is available in manual again?


Possibly, the special edition Senator had a manual option last year.

[VYClubby]

Well HSV truly cocked that up :spew:

At least the GTS now has more power than the clubby.

[Old Lion]

NO base model Senator now :bawl: I dont want rear dvd players , i just want a good looking car .

Cheers Old Lion

[boyley]

I dont know whether its the colour or not but the wagon looks ............:confused:

[Marco]

I do like the new checkered flag badge on the Clubsport.

Unfortunately, I don't like just about everything else about the styling of these cars :(

[NuffNuff]

haha, looks like a storm trooper

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2823/222/32055110778_large.jpg

[CLUBRED]

This is the pick of the bunch

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2010_hsv_e2_senator_01.jpg

Oooo, I have something to do this weekend.

--------------------------------------------------------

Dear Mr Bank Manager,

.............. ....

[jai]

I think for GTS owners with Cash... upgrading to the SV package with savage black wheels and Yellow 6 pot Brake Calipers & Yellow GTS badges is kinda cool. I rate the red/yellow combo... so Ferrari.

Also finally, black wheels on Herron white from the factory ftw!

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ketterj1/hsv/e2gtssv.JPG

Also in regards to BiModal exhausts... someone said Victoria were clamping down on Xforce mufflers using the remote driven Varex mufflers because they dont meet ADR... yet countless manufacturers including HSV almost employ the same kind of system?

I also think - Poor form on no E Grille on the Fender Revisions, no interior changes etc... and especially no rear wing changes. Just slack.

Am I tempted to sell my TT GTS and buy a brand new one with half the power and double the front LED daylight running lights? Maybe haha

JK

[sirhsv]

I dont like the look of this at all except for the Senator.

The rear end is so wrong, in white it looks like the car has mated with a stormtrooper.

The Senator is the pick for me. Although a model like the Senator really didnt need the ricer rear end treatment. Which thankfully is not on the Grange.

[bonners]

As Gus would say, no,no,no,no,no,no

[Ghosn]

The rear of the cars look terrible. Fronts seem to stick out too much when you view the car on an angle. So far the the Senator looks the pick but I'm not too sure about the big arse Honda Accord style grill. I'll definitely be holding onto my E1 :)

[300GTS]

Yes I am going to stay with my VE GTS. HSV are seriously harming the brand with this car.

It is over the top ugly!!:spew:

[zeeute]

I love it! I wish I could afford to upgrade right now... Silly me for racing out and getting an SS ute :P haha

[Vulture]

This is the pick of the bunch

Before you and I get too excited that the Senator looks ok, please check out the rear! They've used the same disgusting rear bar on the Senator and completely ruined it in my view. Sorry HSV, my next car is probably a Euro or Jap performance car now...

[Oldmonroman]

Guys remember when the first VY commodore came out we all complained about the ugly Mitsubishi Looking rear, maybe we will have to wait and let this grow on us for a while or wait to see it in the flesh.

[PSI 364]

I dont like the wheels on the GTS, back to the tri-spoke days and whats the go with the "shockwave" mesh on the front bar and "honeycomb" mesh in the bonnet vents ???? I thought they could have at least matched the grilles throughout.

Gotta love launch control though, cant wait to take one for a drive !

[WH Captain]

Way too overdone. E1 wins hands down. Less is more! Fast and Furious looking.

Cool feature is the guided cruise now can use brake and accelerator! Well ive read that anyway..

[boyley]

Before you and I get too excited that the Senator looks ok, please check out the rear! They've used the same disgusting rear bar on the Senator and completely ruined it in my view. Sorry HSV, my next car is probably a Euro or Jap performance car now...

I will just continue to dream and enjoy my Holdens.

[pelagonia_ss]

I love it.

GTS is the pick of the bunch IMO.

Love the yellow SV badges and black triangular wheels.

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_07_600_700.jpg

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg

[jai]

If i were to buy a GTS I'd want Clubby Bonnet nose pieces... the chrome just doesnt match anything else on the car!

JK

[PaulM]

And this world first, which now is an australian first of the "launch control"....I hope thats not it.

It's not really an Australian first either.

Ford have it on the manual versions of the XR6 Turbo and F6 310.

I reckon they look pig ugly...a bit disappointed really.

[Angelo_XLR8]

time to start a list of reasons to convince the missus to let me have one :-)

[zorro]

I agree rob, the senator has a very DTM look about it. the wheels look great and the front certainly looks better, the Honda accord grille though loses me a little.

Otherwise interesting updates HSV, cant wait to see one in the flesh.


This is the pick of the bunch




http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2010_hsv_e2_senator_01.jpg

[The Cook]

nope im not a fan of the new e2 clubsport, as others have said i belive its too busy and over the top, clean and simple lines are a winner every day

[Excellent]

Isn't the front bar exactly the same in profile as on the Coupe 60?

[LJCHSV]

MMMM Red, white or black GTS with the black wheels, yellow brakes and yellow Bagdes.......Yum Yum! :)

[CSP]

Here's every model... Apologies if these have been posted before (I didn't check).

One word: HIDEOUS!!! Biggest let down for the release of any HSV EVER IMO.

:spew::spew::spew::spew::spew:

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Clubsport_02_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Clubsport_03_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Clubsport_04_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_E-Series_2_02_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_E-Series_2_03_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_01_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_02_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_03_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_05_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_06_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_07_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Grange_01_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Grange_02_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_02_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Range_1_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Range_2_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_1_600_700.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_2_600_700.jpg

[`redoctober]

The front grille of the Senator is very reminiscent of the Accord Euro.. Not something HSV want to associate with, in my personal opinion.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/images/euro3.JPG
http://images.thecarconnection.com/sml/2010-honda-accord-euro-type-s_100196610_s.jpg

It's started to grow on me, but I'm still not a fan.

[Ghosn]

Gotta love after all the hype and talk about exclusivity on the forums, all the scoop pics posted so far have been from all other sites. :rofl:

[pelagonia_ss]

People are still going to buy them. In fact there will probably be an increase in sales.

[V-Car]

http://www.dpccars.com/photos/08-21-07-02-Toyota-Aurion-TRD.jpg

Even though im not a fan of the Aurion, its rear end looks 100% better done and more professional the HSV's copy.

The Senator looks like the designers son got hold of the pics and photoshopped them while his father wasnt looking.
The bottom of the grille up and the bottom of the grille down look like they were designed by two different people.

Oh well, it will score well at AutoSalon.

[goofafidamedes]

Someone is going to make a fortune retro-fitting E Series 1 rear bars to E2 Senators...

[Excellent]

In Ryzz's thread he stated that the Senator has launch control (in manual only). Does this mean that the Senator is available in manual again?

Short answer is NO.

Model by model - http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/hsv/clubsport/hsv-e2-range-model-by-model-16548

[MN05RO]

Makes me glad I tracked down an E1 tourer.....

[CSP]

E Series 1 HSVs will also certainly hold the value when their replacements are a gigantic leap backwards (in looks).

[Old Lion]

Short answer is NO.

Model by model - http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/hsv/clubsport/hsv-e2-range-model-by-model-16548

Wrong , Senator is available with manual transmission all are except Grange,
see link

http://www.hsv.com.au/multimedia2007/brochures/E%20Series%202/e2.pdf

Cheers Old Lion

[Mix 6000]

I'll stick with the E1...:goodjob:..maybe next HSV will be a lot better..:bawl:
Put one of those $1:00 flag badges on the back of my Maloo & I've got an E2.....:eeeeek:..... "Not"........:spew::spew::spew:

[the big fist]

Even though im not a fan of the Aurion, its rear end looks 100% better done and more professional the HSV's copy.

The Senator looks like the designers son got hold of the pics and photoshopped them while his father wasnt looking.
The bottom of the grille up and the bottom of the grille down look like they were designed by two different people.

Oh well, it will score well at AutoSalon.

You nailed it Ross. Agree 100%
The kit looks stuck on and doesnt flow with the top half of the car.
The grange and senator are somewhat ok.

[Vulture]

Guys remember when the first VY commodore came out we all complained about the ugly Mitsubishi Looking rear, maybe we will have to wait and let this grow on us for a while or wait to see it in the flesh.

I still don't like the look of the VY HSVs.

I suppose those of us with E1s should be thanking HSV for increasing the resale of our vehicles.

[DuffMan]

Not a fan, yet something tells me a Black GTS with the 6 piston brakes, black wheels and lowered *might* look pretty good. So come on... where are the pics of a black GTS!

[aedeau]

Short answer is NO.

Model by model - http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2009/large-passenger/hsv/clubsport/hsv-e2-range-model-by-model-16548

"Stronger clutch (from W427) on manual models."

awww what? I demand an upgrade form my shitty vz replacement clutch!!!

[Nightrain]

Poison Ivy Maloo with the white rims looks the goods i reckon

[GTS307]

I also wrote in Ryzz's thread but it needs authorization. What's Extended Cruise Control?
The only one I really like the look of is the Senator... but it would be good if my E1 Maloo had 6 air bags, subwoofers, and a light in the tray. Good improvements :goodjob: Oh and tyre pressure monitors. What about my auto-up windows?

It has auto up power windows on all 4 :)


Not a fan, yet something tells me a Black GTS with the 6 piston brakes, black wheels and lowered *might* look pretty good. So come on... where are the pics of a black GTS!

Yeh i think the the black would look the best in the GTS

[Ghosn]

It has auto up power windows on all 4 :)

Maybe that's the Aussie first they have been harping on about. :)

[VYClubby]

Maloo was the nicest E1 but this looks horrible :bawl:




http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

[Road Warrior]

I'm glad they've left the Grange alone.

[ti0350]

On first look I don't mind the E2 the front end looks good to me I'm not a big fan of the rear bar on the sedans something about it doesnt quite look right but I will leave my ultimate judgment until i see it in the flesh.
Thank god they didnt mess much with the wagon I'll take an R8 Tourer in wildfire thanks...

[Ghosn]

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

Honestly, I think there is no place for the LEDs on those bumpers. I think it would have looked a lot cleaner without the LEDs. The are just way too big and intrusive.

[mikek73xu1]

Christ - i think i could get used to the front [take a while] but jesus the back is a complete dogs breakfast. I cant fathom how something so ugly could make it off the drawing board.It looks like its got a huge sag in the arse end.
This is the first HSV model lineup that i wouldn't aspire to replace my VX GTS with.

[ExAreSix]

Woah. I'm shocked. I wasn't a fan of E1, and it still hasn't really grown on me.
But E2 is god awful. Reminds me of the VNs and crap you see getting around with cheap knockoff bodykits.

And those wheels on the GTS! :spew:

What were they thinking

[XLR8 V8]

Maybe that's the Aussie first they have been harping on about. :)

One of the aussie firsts is likely the extended cruise control that applies the brakes for you when going downhill

[steves87]

I think your all jumping the gun...
i dont mind the styling, at first i had the same thoughts, but its really growing on me.... i actually prefer the rear to the front!
at the moment, the colour that most suits the styling is that light grey/silver colour, of the clubsport... and i much prefer the the clubsport styling over the senator...
i like the idea of the sv stuff and i love the 'Corvette inspired' badge on the back too, with the different red or yellow backing.
fyi, i think the vy hsv's are some of the best designs put out!

all just my .02 cents:goodjob:

[255-LS1]

its just too over the top, front is "ok" but the rear is just hideous. what a big hipe for such a bad design upgrade. well done HSV.

[benniemc]

I like 'em, a bit riced in the body kit department, but not totally over the top!

I wanna see some more full pics of the Tourer, I still haven't seen any back on pics of that!

lol, need to open my eyes...

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_Tourer_1_600_700.jpg

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_Tourer_2_600_700.jpg

[Ghosn]

One of the aussie firsts is likely the extended cruise control that applies the brakes for you when going downhill

Yep, I was just being sarcastic. The new cruise control system will be interesting when you have a 40 tonne semi barreling down behind u so it can get a run up the hill. I wonder if it activates the brake lights when it slows u down?

[keepleft]

Needs a rear fog:-)


Happy 2003 everyone.

[mikek73xu1]

Crikey if the HSV boys have a read of all this i don't think they will jumping for joy.But they did come up with this cr-p!

[LSX-438]

so the spy pics were right, bummer.

It looks too lairy/overt for my $$

a cleaner less overt design would have been better this time around, for this car

[goofafidamedes]

Yep, I was just being sarcastic. The new cruise control system will be interesting when you have a 40 tonne semi barreling down behind u so it can get a run up the hill. I wonder if it activates the brake lights when it slows u down?


Apparently it does - says somewhere in amongst all of the rubbish on the HSV site.

Like Car, Like Website... a frickin mess!!!

[livewildcard]

I guess the body just lets it down. Reading through all the technical changes etc it doesnt sound too bad. Its just when you look at it.................

Someone going to make an E1 bodykit for the E2. Backwards I know. BUt with new upgrades and looking the goods it would be a good car in most respects.

But those in T or TT E1's with all the goods. Moving to an E2. I don't know. See what happens in the next few weeks with the sales.

[Excellent]

Mmmmm

No weight specs for each model on the downloadable PDF. HSV trying to hide something?

[Ghosn]

I really hope Swingtan has a police escort, people are getting impatient :p

[jai]

I found my next E1 upgrade...

http://members.iinet.net.au/~ketterj1/hsv/gtse2carbonbadge.JPG

[livewildcard]

Mmmmm

No weight specs for each model on the downloadable PDF. HSV trying to hide something?


This was from the original leaked photos site which proved to be pretty much spot on with the looks. Maybe they are right with the weights. Or as you said. HSV hiding something.

While the ride height has been dropped, weight has increased in two models. Clubsport R8 gains 1kg, GTS gains 7kg, while the Senator Signature loses 9kg.

[ti0350]

I've spent a bit of time reading about the all the features you get with the E2, and now I'm not really sure I'll spend the extra and get an R8 tourer compared to an SSV wagon..
I do like the E2 front end, but I'd like to see more pics of the ltd edition SSV wagons front end.. The tyre pressure monitors is good idea and something that Holden should have as std on anythign with low profile tyres it's manditory in states so the G8 has it so why doesn't holden have..
Will check them out in the flesh and drive both but I'd liked a bigger option package for the Tourer.. Now given the price difference between the t2 I might more inclined to look at Calais V sportwagon first.. The wagon is going to be our family car so I'm not concerned about the difference between the engines between an SSV/Calais and an R8 we wont be doing any mods to it..

[Fnomna]

In my opinion it looks way overdone and cheap in an aftermarket way. Much prefer the cleaner E1.

[Carby]

Fronts OK but a little too much overhang. Don't like the Triangular exhausts or rear end treatment, though this view may soften when I see them in the flesh.

[Fnomna]

http://www.dpccars.com/photos/08-21-07-02-Toyota-Aurion-TRD.jpg

Exactly!!!!

[Roly]

Looks like my LS3 E1 Maloo is staying at home a bit longer.

Must be worth more now too ;)

[MARRA]

I agree that the Senator is the pick of the bunch at this stage - very nice! Will have to wait to see what the rest of them look like in the flesh.

[SS_Brute]

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Grange_02_600_700.jpg


http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l316/SS_Brute/TC7065-3.jpg

Does anyone else feel a passing resemblence to the old sonata???

[XLR8 V8]

I think if you can find a panel shop that can plastic fill and paint the rear bumper, it can be salvaged to something "slightly" more classy

e.g.
From
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_1_600_700.jpg

To
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed.jpg

[Marco]

^^ Winner. That's an immediate improvement.

[benniemc]

I think if you can find a panel shop that can plastic fill and paint the rear bumper, it can be salvaged to something "slightly" more classy

e.g.
From
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_1_600_700.jpg

To
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed.jpg

After Market bodykits FTW!

[NickS]

I think if you can find a panel shop that can plastic fill and paint the rear bumper, it can be salvaged to something "slightly" more classy

e.g.
From
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_1_600_700.jpg

To
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed.jpg

Noice ... can you smooth out the crap on the corner of the rear bumper too ?

Senator with an E1 rear bar (colour coded) & E1 wheels would look great.

[1BEAST2NV]

Funny how ppl bring up all these photo's they think "holden stole" the design/shape off of.....

Im sure the new shape will grow on us as every other model has..

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

XLR8 V8= :goodjob: gotta love photoshop

[Smitty]

Maloo was the nicest E1 but this looks horrible :bawl:



http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

yep I agree until I saw this........the tourer
and here I was considering an upgrade of the SSV Wagon


http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range/2010_hsv_e2_tourer-static-039-1.jpg

in one word.........appalling

can anyone think what a field day Clarkson will have when he sees one of these appaling examples of automotive design...?

Seriously, what were HSV thinking?

[Vulture]

I think if you can find a panel shop that can plastic fill and paint the rear bumper, it can be salvaged to something "slightly" more classy

Nice work, that looks much more AMG-ish. I think HSV are going for this look with some of the same design cues as high end Mercs and Audis but the exucution falls short as the Euros have the budget to tie each element into an integrated whole. Very disappointed..

[Nidz]

Maloo was the nicest E1 but this looks horrible :bawl:




http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

You see that's where each person's taste differs.. I think that looks sexy and I love that colour.. I would love to see that wagon above in that colour.. Niccce..

[Gee]

Senator with an E1 rear bar (colour coded) & E1 wheels would look great.

Totally - though I dont mind the new wheels either

As LSX-438 said somewhere here, too lairy - why cant we have something clean and classy. But I'm not likely to be an HSV buyer, so grain of salt time really ...

But most HSV's have been overdone and too 'boy racer' for a looong time IMO - still people love them and buy them so what do I know. LED lights seem to have become the new and socially acceptable fog lights I guess

Holden Man was pretty close with his rear bar chops back in mid-August! Shame is that a couple of the others he put together would have been a lot cleaner looking. I think perhaps when you're standing in a showroom or sitting in a car behind one these bars may look a little better though.

As always (well since VTII), I'd be putting my money down on a Senator - in a dark colour I think it will be a very attractive car reducing the impact of the rear bar, once that flag badge has been whipped off! Maybe its the angle of the photos, but it really looks like an afterthought on the Maloo, Senator and particularly the Grange. Confused though as one Senator photo has the badge, the other has a 'Signature' badge (also good for the bin) - two Senator specs presumably but the release literature says different?

[Vulture]

Noice ... can you smooth out the crap on the corner of the rear bumper too ?

Senator with an E1 rear bar (colour coded) & E1 wheels would look great.

Agreed! But the customer shouldn't be having to clean up disgusting factory design elements. :vpo:
My knickers are seriously in a twist! :lol:

[XLR8 V8]

Noice ... can you smooth out the crap on the corner of the rear bumper too ?

Might have to wait for HoldenMan for that one. My photoshop skills are a bit lacking these days after very little use in years. I'd probably get a better result using paddlepop sticks and bluetack :lol:

[NickS]

I'd probably get a better result using paddlepop sticks and bluetack :lol:

Sounds like you have something in common with the design guys @ HSV ... :lmao:

God this is depressing, I'm supposed to want to run out and buy a new one when they release these new models ... :bawl:

[Vulture]

Sounds like you have something in common with the design guys @ HSV ... :lmao:

God this is depressing, I'm supposed to want to run out and buy a new one when they release these new models ... :bawl:

Not good when a guy who's bought 5 of them feels this way and others (ie me) who would like to buy another feel the same.

[Ghosn]

Sounds like you have something in common with the design guys @ HSV ... :lmao:

God this is depressing, I'm supposed to want to run out and buy a new one when they release these new models ... :bawl:

I hear ya, if only they got the rear bumper right! I bet you would have been down to the dealer signing the papers for a brand new Senator ;)

[SteveK]

Hmm, first impressions "Too much make-up". Seriously, those little black eyebrows above the kidneys and also above the bonnet scoups, just too much. Granted, they look good on a BLACK Clubsport but on white or any other lighter colour there's too much noise.

Senator is easily the pick of the bunch, but even so there's only one way to describe the rear bumper:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3288150811_6638ca2229.jpg

P.S. I do like the LED lights on the front though.

[V28VX37]

"Busy" is probably the best way to put it.

As I asked before, (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?p=1564062#post1564062) "does anyone else think that in 10 years time we might get a little chuckle thinking back to all the scoops and vents and diffusers of today's cars?"

It'll be very interesting to see how the sales figures go - perhaps this is what people want?

[Maaaark]

Thank God I got an E1! It looks way too ricey, I definitely won't be wanting to "upgrade" :bawl:

[EXCESSV]

HSV interior & performance, STI front, Aurion rear.....maybe HSV should have been monitoring LS1.com.au alot earlier coz they wouldnt have farked up this much!!!! :rofl:

[RED R8]

The more I look the more I vomit in my mouth...I can actually say it is the ONLY HSV ever released that I didnt like the look of. I am SO glad I have an E1 and again for the first time EVER I dont have that burning desire to get the new model...

Hideous is all I can say about below picture..
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_GTS_03_600_700.jpg


HSV you have not done well at all ...

[VX2VESS]

plenty more room for more intake holes left, more is better :confused: :1peek:


maybe it too many eyebrows, get rid of the black ones on the bonnet edge

[Evman]

They're all absolutely disgusting. The front ends look ridiculous. Blunt noses suit the VE, it was designed specifically for it, but now that HSV have effectively given it a longer front end with that totally fked up bumper it looks crap. The rear ends look just as horrid. HSV E2 = failure to AU Falcon standards. Way to fk up a good thing. HSV have now lost a lot of credibility with me and from reading through the posts, a lot of other people too.

[seldo]

I think if you can find a panel shop that can plastic fill and paint the rear bumper, it can be salvaged to something "slightly" more classy

e.g.
From
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Senator_1_600_700.jpg

To
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed.jpg
That is Sooo much better Kris!
Get your CV spruced-up and go and knock on HSV's door - they clearly need a new designer..:)

[alpha1]

I agree, the front does look too busy....although the LED lights are a good idea they have made a meal out of it.

Geeezzz there must be alot of G8 bonnets left over from the USA, firstly they bring it out on the G8 limited edition SSV and now they are sticking it on the HSV,s lolololol:rofl:

Alot of people saying that the G8 limited ed was just a way to get rid of surplus parts.... now these surplus parts are on the pricey HSV range lol.

Personally I think the G8 front looks heaps bether than this creation.

[Vulture]

It'll be very interesting to see how the sales figures go - perhaps this is what people want?

Got me buggered. I'll be surprised if sales don't suffer. Must be enough cashed up bogans out there or else HSV wouldn't be doing the tacky bodykit makeover?

[utebikerboy]

Welcome to the HSV version of the FPV Badger. Save your money and buy a second hand E-Series I me thinks.

[BigFella]

hmmmm i dont like the look of it in the pics, looks very over crowded and with bits tacked on.
ill wait to see what it looks like in the flesh.


hsv will still sell plenty of them

[300GTS]

I haven't added how many of the posts are negative but if HSV even bothered to sample the population in the design phase they would have worked out plastic pigs belong in the 80's.

Mods

How about a poll being placed on the home page to graph public opinion to the E2?

HSV need to do a major recall of the plastic bumpers and start over....

[VX2VESS]

a full length grill like the Audi might look better than that mess, seeing they stole the led idea already ??? not the same but something like it which looks neater and more classy yet still meanish

http://64.251.10.3/nimg/2007/09/thumbs/lrg_article_11030-img_0.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/HSV%20VE2/HSV_Maloo_01_600_700.jpg

the 2 up top holes and one down the bottom grill has been around too long already, stop messing with the shapes of them and get something new

[iloveholden]

Im speechless.....horrible comes to mind....the wheels desgins are shockingly bad :spew:

Rear bumpers are...are..are :spew::spew::spew:

I just cant believe HSV has farked up this E2 soooooo bad...the choices would be the Maloo or Tourer wagon otherwise the sedans look poooo.

:bawl::bawl::bawl:

[BIGALROKS]

I reckon the new chequered flag badge just looks way out of place, especially on the Sen Sig and the wagon.

Among other things......

[redvess]

I actually dont mind the front all that much :hide: on the GTS anyway with the black part not sure about the rest of the range, I like the audi style driving lights, dont like the rear bars though and unlike the majority on here I reackon the senator has the uglyest front bar :hide: that upper grill is hidieous. And the black GTS rims dont look good either would like to see the silver version of the same rim in real life other than the drawings on the HSV site

[Evman]

I guess the answer comes down to how much money you have when purchasing one of these. I'd only get one if I could replace the new bumpers with the old ones. That, however, begs the question; is a cruise control that brakes down hills worth all the extra money?

No. No it is not. E2 is sh!t. HSV is sh!t until they bring out the next model which had better be an improvement because anything worse that the E2 will lead me to believe HSV is dead. Firing the entire design team and management might be the go. If they didn't spot the absolute ugliness of the E2 then they don't deserve their jobs.

[AndrewR8]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: OMFG!!!

Where did HSV go and what is this thing?

I will just KEEP my E1 thanks very much, no chance in hell of buying a new HSV if that's what it is?

My god its like HSV slept with every car and now this cross breed of SHIT has been born!

Its like a pontiac, audi, aurion, daewoo thing with a HSV badge!

FPV just became the best looking aussie performance built car for 2009/2010, good work HSV!

[Crusty]

One of the aussie firsts is likely the extended cruise control that applies the brakes for you when going downhill

Oh Dear... my 2006 Chrysler 300C does that.

[VX2VESS]

I guess the answer comes down to how much money you have when purchasing one of these. I'd only get one if I could replace the new bumpers with the old ones. That, however, begs the question; is a cruise control that brakes down hills worth all the extra money?



is that coming in so cops can start booking you down hill next :vpo: currently they are not supposed to setup radar on downhill runs

[King Nothing]

Gotta say, when I saw the front 1/4 shot of the red GTS, I thought it was an EVO or something. The rear end is disgusting, and the way the front sticks out looks silly. LEDs are too much, though I do like the green colour the maloo is shown in. Will still sell though.

[theVman]

Hate to say it but they have gone FPR esque on the front a tad - should have styed with something a bit more Audi esque where the frille lines tapper to the centre rather than flaring out to the side.

I personally think they look awful - just a bit too much of the Starwars influence for me. HSV has messed up every opportunity since the launch of the E series bar the 427.

This is good news for Holden as the SS/SSV variants will start selling like hotcakes!!

[aedeau]

does anybody know if the manual launch control thing can be fitted easily to an E1? are there reasonably priced aftermarket alternatives?

[Vulture]

My god its like HSV slept with every car and now this cross breed of SHIT has been born!


:headbang: :rofl: love it!

[Pav023]

:goodjob: HSV

[SSV475]

I was planning on upgrading to the E Series 2 Maloo in the next 2 years, seeing them has made me think more long term... I'll definately be waiting for the next major revamp before splashing out on one... Definately a backwards step HSV.

On another note, has anyone (may be in thread already but cant be F*^ked loooking through all those pages!) seen the limited edition SSV's etc with the pontiac front end? Apparently only 900 to be built for Aussie market.... Better buy than the E Series 2 for sure!

[macca_779]

does anybody know if the manual launch control thing can be fitted easily to an E1? are there reasonably priced aftermarket alternatives?

yeah get some time up practicing launches to be better at it than the software is.

[Vulture]

Comments overwhelmingly negative on the drive.com.au blog also LINK (http://blogs.drive.com.au/2009/09/do_you_like_the_look_of_the_ne.htmlhttp://)


does anybody know if the manual launch control thing can be fitted easily to an E1? are there reasonably priced aftermarket alternatives?

It's probably part of the new BOSCH 8.1 unit so I doubt it.

[moconn20]

Originally Posted by XLR8 V8
One of the aussie firsts is likely the extended cruise control that applies the brakes for you when going downhill



Oh Dear... my 2006 Chrysler 300C does that.


Hell, my 2007 mercedes sprinter ambulance does that. big deal... it should be across the entire commodore range

[Ghosn]

It's a shame really.

We went from E1 ..

YouTube - Jizz In My Pants (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pXfHLUlZf4)



To E2 ..

YouTube - Jizz In My Pants response: "Puke In My Mouth" -MsTaken.com (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJsQcnB6GC0)


:)

[VXSS346]

Funny how everyone cans it now, probably for good reason. :D

But wait till forum members start buying them and start a 'my ride' thread.

Everyone will go :woohoo: WOW :bow: Looks hot :love: Jealous :woot: Congratulations :bravo: Love it :drool:

:hmmm: :weirdo:

[Excellent]

A long morning out of the way and I'm starting to warm (only a little) to the front end styling of the Clubsport and GTS but ONLY in a few specific colours.

It seems that the cars look good in black or other darker colours. I'm starting to think the chrome edge on the GTS' grille is due to the need to differentiate it from the Clubby and to integrate it somewhat to the DTL.

What is it with the blackout fronts we are seeing? It think it's just plain silly on the FPVs (still yet to win me over) and now the HSVs.

[aedeau]

yeah get some time up practicing launches to be better at it than the software is.

sorry, but the stock clutch doesn't handle 6k dumps. mine has already been replaced under warranty once, possibly a second time soon as it's playing up again :)

[AndrewR8]

Correct me if I am wrong, but HSV are not claiming to be the first Aussie car to have launch control are they????

The FG XR6 Turbo can claim that, I test drove the manual XR6T with launch control ages ago.

SHAME HSV SHAME!!!

[Vulture]

A long morning out of the way and I'm starting to warm (only a little) to the front end styling of the Clubsport and GTS but ONLY in a few specific colours.

It seems that the cars look good in black or other darker colours. I'm starting to think the chrome edge on the GTS' grille is due to the need to differentiate it from the Clubby and to integrate it somewhat to the DTL.

Needing it to be in a dark colour tells me that the overall design is not cohesive. It needs elements 'hidden' by dark colours in a similar way to the current FPVs.

[black_knight]

Well, what can I say...

1. Scoop photos that HSV said were "concepts only" - nice try jack-holes
2. Is it April first? No? Damn
3. The marketing hype, teaser videos, pre-release letter, press releases AND brochure are the greatest heap of steaming dung I have EVER read/seen in my life. If you are wanting a laugh, please read the brocuhure, J.Peterman (Seinfeld) would be proud.
4. HSV has obviously been eating its own marketing Crunchy Crappola for breakfast, because they must not have marketed tested these looks at all- they know best of course (how could we be wrong)?
5. Can someone please tell me where the "multi-million dollar investment in performance imrpovements" went? Quincy - please explain.
6. No interior changes - not their fault, really - no Holden changes (I'm going easy on them with this one seeing as the dash/wheel/seats etc are HSV custom)
7. 8kw increase at the VERY top end for GTS. 8kw, really, 8kw, are you serious? 8kw...Christ almighty.
8. Selected golden nuggets of shite from press release/brochure:


"Before the finished product is allowed to leave our premises, every detail is checked by a uniquely precise instrument – the human eye." - Also known as the worlds most IMPRECISE instrument - morons.
HSV design chief Julian Quincey said E2 sketch work began in early 2007, just months after the E Series range began recording record sales figures for HSV.

“Our customers were telling HSV they loved the differentiation the new model delivered, giving us the starting point for designing the next generation,” he said.

“We needed a new identity that would both excite the passionate HSV buyer and equally one that could be picked out by the non car enthusiast. This meant that our overall front and rear graphics had to be substantially changed from the original E series and ideally also look lower, wider and more sporty,” said Mr Quincey. - So we decided to mess with the design everyone loved.
“We decided to make a major investment in new product, features and performance, in a time of unprecedented economic turmoil. The new E2 range is yet another opportunity to demonstrate the engineering and design excellence of HSV.” - Don't break your arms patting yourselves onthe back just yet friendo.

[RED R8]

Now thats nice...

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h49/Dazvyss/DSC_00273.jpg

[ypad1]

I think seeing it in the flesh wont be as bad as pictures...I like it.

[mikek73xu1]

And only 8kw more for the GTS is fuc_en pathetic too. Why bother? It should be at least 20kw if you are serious about the GTS having more grunt.

[Belzey]

When I first saw the E1 Clubby I loved it and as soon as my HSV dealer had one in WA I went and bought it! I was getting excited at perhaps having the same feelings again - but alas I don't! It does look all wrong IMO.

I did say I was going to wait until I see one in the flesh but the more pics I see the less I am liking it..

[steve_t]

Think how big a step forward the VF is going to be :goodjob:

[calais190]

For all those who want a HSV, this model being released makes E1s cheaper to buy, so for the buyers market, it's fantastic! :D Senator and Grange look nice, Clubby is feral... And don't even get me started on the GTS with the oldschool (and not pretty even back then) GTS-R style 3 spokes...

[EXCESSV]

For all those who want a HSV, this model being released makes E1s cheaper to buy, so for the buyers market, it's fantastic! :D Senator and Grange look nice, Clubby is feral... And don't even get me started on the GTS with the oldschool (and not pretty even back then) GTS-R style 3 spokes...actually not really
with the E2 looking soo shit very little will upgrade or buy one

those that want a HSV will go to the E1 which makes the E1 more desirable

more demand = higher price

[calais190]

actually not really
with the E2 looking soo shit very little will upgrade or buy one

those that want a HSV will go to the E1 which makes the E1 more desirable

more demand = higher price

Doubt it, A new model always brings quicker depreciation to an older car. No matter it's appearance. Looks may slow sales, however they're the "new" model, therefore making E1 old. It could work both ways... i guess.

[BigFella]

so whos going to be the first to buy one and post it in the my ride section and in the 'tell me what u love/hate about my ride' section...


:stick:

[miss monaro]

White ones rear end looks like a stormtrooper......

[Metal]

I thought the front was a design that was created by someone who had no idea..none. There was no way it could be worse. Then I saw the back-end.


Reminds me of something I saw on Top Gear when they reviewed the 1968 Dodge Charger R/T (Which by the way is actually an awesome car).

Hammond says something along the lines of -> ...the designer of the charger was an avid fan of aerodynamics. Pity he knew nothing about aerodynamics.


It very well may look good in the flesh, I don't know... though if it looks bad in pictures, and good in the flesh, it still tells you there are certain proportions or features that are awkward or just plain bad design. And bad design this is.

[Excellent]

Someone post up both E1 and E2 pics. :)

That'll be the best way to compare the two and judge the HSV designers work.

I think looking at the E2 in isolation is putting more than a few people off, myself included.

[XLR8 V8]

actually not really
with the E2 looking soo shit very little will upgrade or buy one

those that want a HSV will go to the E1 which makes the E1 more desirable

more demand = higher price


Well there's been some good jumps in technology/features, so people will still buy them for that and the E1 values will drop accordingly. But in saying that I'd love to buy up some stock of the E1 bumpers for exchange, 'cause they're going to be go UP in value for sure. :D

[Metal]

Someone post up both E1 and E2 pics.

That'll be the best way to compare the two and judge the HSV designers work.


I would, but I puked up on my computer screen when I went to paste in the E2 shots, so now I can't see what I'm doing.

[BigAl83]

Don't have as much hatred as everyone else. I think they're ok. I think they will grow on you and will need to be seen in the metal.
:stick:
Something needs to be done about the bottom of the front bar, the GTS wheels and the rear bars, they're just not cohesive.
Also you should be able to specify a colour if you upgrade the brakes and/or the interior, currently you could have a green car with yellow brakes and a red interior.
:eeew:

[nikola]

Wow, it looks appalling. All of them do. From the Korean looking grilles, to the saggy rear ends... ugliest cars I have ever seen.

[Mikey]

Ok here goes. I will be in a position to upgrade over the next 6 months. I will upgrade and it will be a HSV. I think that a red GTS would be the one I would go for, but because it will not fit into my budget I will have to still go another Clubby.

I am the same as most here as I think HSV maybe are starting to believe their own spin and they have not done a great job trying to marry all of these design cues together. Having said that, it is not as bad as some here suggest either imho. Instead of just whining for the sake of it I am going to post something a little more positive.

What would you do to change or improve the look?

For me, I think my next one will be in sting red and I will be making changes. I do like the blackout front of the GTS (although I love it better on the W 427) so this would be the first thing I would do. I will also do two stripes in black over the bonnet starting from the impressions in front of the grill and finishing at the windscreen. The rear is just not right at all. I do like the filled in colour coded panel already chopped somewhere here. Maybe HSV can market this??? I will also go back to quads as the tips just are too ugly for me. Maybe some one here (Holden man???) can photoshop these for me in sting Red.

I know someone has already mentioned that you should not have to fix this up from scratch but I think these changes actual will enhance this theme.

[cholo]

Funny how everyone cans it now, probably for good reason. :D

But wait till forum members start buying them and start a 'my ride' thread.

Everyone will go :woohoo: WOW :bow: Looks hot :love: Jealous :woot: Congratulations :bravo: Love it :drool:

:hmmm: :weirdo:

lol exactly!

[fishla]

I suppose those of us with E1s should be thanking HSV for increasing the resale of our vehicles.

Bingo!

What a let down! I can't believe there was so much hype and mystery around something that looks (IMO) like it's been slapped together with left over parts from the Aurion & Lancer bin :(

If they don't lift their game with the VF, I'm staying away from HSV

[macca_779]

You guys with E1's who actually think this model will appreciate the resale of your OLD model are pulling themselves. It aint going to happen people

[Excellent]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hsvE21-625x469.jpg

http://www.hsv.com.au/images/2007/cars/Eseries/gts/Hero.jpg

The E1 kind of does look a little more 'plain' now.

[FG Turbo Ute]

The guys on the Ford Forum had kinder words about the HSV series 2 than on here.

[Carby]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hsvE21-625x469.jpg

http://www.hsv.com.au/images/2007/cars/Eseries/gts/Hero.jpg

The E1 kind of does look a little more 'plain' now.

B*stard:) - how plain and dated does that E1 look!!

[pelagonia_ss]

The e2 is way better looking than the e1 IMO. Its only a matter of time before everybody is converted!

[XLR8 V8]

Noice ... can you smooth out the crap on the corner of the rear bumper too ?

I decided to have more of a play. It still keeps the vents, but I've now removed the cut-in section at the very top of them. I think it removes some more of the tacky boy-racer look.
From
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed.jpg

To
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/XLR8V8/E2/E2_Senator_fixed2.jpg

[fishla]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hsvE21-625x469.jpg

http://www.hsv.com.au/images/2007/cars/Eseries/gts/Hero.jpg

The E1 kind of does look a little more 'plain' now.

Now do the same from the rear view.

I wonder if any tuners like Walkinshaw Performance will have new bits for the E2?

[NickS]

I decided to have more of a play. It still keeps the vents, but I've now removed the cut-in section at the very top of them.

:bow: ... nice one Kris, works for me.

[NRD80Y]

Well there's been some good jumps in technology/features, so people will still buy them for that and the E1 values will drop accordingly. But in saying that I'd love to buy up some stock of the E1 bumpers for exchange, 'cause they're going to be go UP in value for sure. :D
This is exactly what I was thinking. I love all the technical specs of the E2 but the visual changes just don't appeal to me. Maybe HSV should have stuck with the E1 look and offered the E2 Bumpers and bonnet as part of this new 'SV Enchanced'

[boyley]

At the end of the day they still shit all over the fords in the looks department:)

[steve_t]

I thought the TR6060 was going to allow all LS3 HSV's to unleash the same 325kw across the board as well as up the torque from 550nm to 580nm... or would that be too much of an upgrade over E1? Saving that one up for VF?
I want the tech specs of the E2 in my E1...

[FAVSSS]

Why has there been no increase in power outputs,apart from the GTS getting a whole extra 8kw?WOW

[pelagonia_ss]

Why has there been no increase in power outputs,apart from the GTS getting a whole extra 8kw?WOW

Probably because they have a shitload of power as is?

[1BEAST2NV]

http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/hsvE21-625x469.jpg

http://www.hsv.com.au/images/2007/cars/Eseries/gts/Hero.jpg

The E1 kind of does look a little more 'plain' now.



comparing the 2 pics I reckon the E2 shits on the E1 in looks, it just has that mean look to it. If I had a e1 (which I soon will) I'd put the E2 bumper on it :D

you's will learn to love it just like the rest:goodjob:

[hsver8]

E2 front bumper looks like a vx ss skirt on the bottom.

Im sorry hsv, but i will be holding on to my E1 for a while.

[SteveK]

How to make a clean looking spoiler kit in 2 easy steps.

STEP 1.

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/5543-2/Holden_coupe60_122.jpg

STEP 2.

Do not interfere with step 1

[sjhugh]

Has anyone noticed in CSP’s photos on page 4, the exhaust outlets on the GTS, Clubby and Senator are badly fitted, they’re not square to the body kit and the gaps are not equal on both sides? If that’s the way they’ll look in the flesh then it’s a poor finish in my option.

[_MetalliX_]

Full gallery is now on CarAdvice (http://www.caradvice.com.au/40637/hsv-e2-range-released/) for anyone who is interested.

Also, new video with Garth Tander demonstrating launch control is now also available to view.

http://www.caradvice.com.au/40699/video-garth-tander-demonstrates-launch-control-on-hsv-e2/

[smokey777]

you gotta be shittin me with that starwars rear bumpers lol

[BlownLS7]

which auto do these E2's have now?
cheers paul

[The-V8-Power]

I'm still undecided. Some angles it looks mean others a lil tacky.
Will grow on me I would say but:)

http://i27.tinypic.com/4qfp7t.jpg
That image makes them look pretty nice imo.

[mustanger]

At this stage, I have only one thing to say ..........:sleep:

I will reserve my judgement until I see them on the road .

[pelagonia_ss]

How long will it take to actually see them on the road?

[Quick VE GTS]

How long will it take to actually see them on the road?

Apparently Brisbane dealers will have stock in October, they will confirm later in week once their order is finalized...

[mrtockley]

Well at least it will take the heat off FPV, now that HSV have designed cars that look like they were re-designed by Korean kids on Ritalin !

What a fantastic way to **** up a really nice body shape.. :spew:

Tock.

[speedyocca]

This is exactly what I was thinking. I love all the technical specs of the E2 but the visual changes just don't appeal to me. Maybe HSV should have stuck with the E1 look and offered the E2 Bumpers and bonnet as part of this new 'SV Enchanced'
everyone one who has taste keeps the E1 bumpers and all the bogans can have thier E2 bumpers

[255-LS1]

That image makes them look pretty nice imo.

LOL haven't you ever heard the saying "good from far, but far from good"....

[mustanger]

I'm still undecided. Some angles it looks mean others a lil tacky.
Will grow on me I would say but:)

http://i27.tinypic.com/4qfp7t.jpg
That image makes them look pretty nice imo.

Too bad they won`t be coming out with that ride height :teach:

[kpop]

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-061.jpg

literally the 1st thing i thought of when i saw that picture was:

http://images.halloweencostumes.com/authentic-stormtrooper-cost.jpg

[SV8.YOU]

Still not sure if i like it or not, i kind of like the front bar, have to grow on me, but the rear bar :spew: the gts rims :spew:. Really can't see where the money has gone. The gts definately needs more power. I won't be surprised this time next year if it gets a minor facelift.

[sparkplug]

Give me either E model and I'm over the moon. I think it looks alright, agreed that the rear is a little off though.

[glenncol]

Looks like HSV may not have upped the price on the E2 but will make it back on options

Looking at HSV's web site under the E2 section selecting the Tourer it looks like the Pentagosn are now a $3990 option

[gmack]

Pentagons available with leather as a package. I think that is where the extra cost comes in.

[vessute08]

Launch control and competition mode ay...... Wonder what sort of response people will get from HSV when they return them with wrecked clutches!? "Sorry, but this was caused due to abuse"

Thats gonna be pretty hard to swallow when you've got Garth Tander telling you to floor it then dump the clutch

[Brandonsdad]

If this new E2 series was actually the first of the E series that came out, then everyone that has an E1, would actually have one of these and it would not matter what the E2 was going to look like, as it would still have people knocking it.
You cant please everyone, so you gotta please yourself.
The VF, or F series will have people knocking it too.

[steve_t]

Launch control and competition mode ay...... Wonder what sort of response people will get from HSV when they return them with wrecked clutches!? "Sorry, but this was caused due to abuse"

Thats gonna be pretty hard to swallow when you've got Garth Tander telling you to floor it then dump the clutch

And diffs!

[Brandonsdad]

haha, looks like a storm trooper

http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2823/222/32055110778_large.jpg

Haha, thats funny.:rofl:

I think it would look really good in BLACK.

[black_knight]

How to make a clean looking spoiler kit in 2 easy steps.

STEP 1.

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/5543-2/Holden_coupe60_122.jpg

STEP 2.

Do not interfere with step 1

I second that. Coupe 60 is AWESOME - What happened to it??

[The-V8-Power]

LOL haven't you ever heard the saying "good from far, but far from good"....

I think that pretty much sums up the looks.:goodjob:

Hopefully they look better in person.

[sven]

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg[/IMG]

i think its the flared edges on the bottom of the front bar that look the worst. kinda looks like a snow plow.

[VT_Lance]

i think the fronts looks alright but on the hsv pictures it kinda looks like it has an over bite like an in breeed bogan

the rear and is just feral but with the second chop of the rear fix up improves it 110% and needs to be a change from factory

lastly the wheels are all ugly buy your self some e1 gts wheels befor they jump in price

my 2c

[Vulture]

If this new E2 series was actually the first of the E series that came out, then everyone that has an E1, would actually have one of these.

Strange assertion. There are other makes and models of cars out there in the world! You're assuming we'd all have bought an HSV regardless of what they looked like. Not true. Just as my next car might not be an HSV because of how they look.

[zorro]

Aurion aside I reckon the front looks similar to an evo

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-050.jpg

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2008/07/10/lancerEvoWhite03_L_700.jpg

[ssv1]

Think of the saving on the gaudy looking aftermarket bits (which only a very few would even consider adding on after) straight out of the yard. I just don't want one.

[korrupt]

From an article on Car Sales :

One feature that did miss the cut for E2 though, were the steering-wheel-mounted shift paddles for the automatic models. Stoddart admitted that the company has considered such an addition, but the benefits of paddle shifts weren't great enough for the current transmission.

[jai]

DRL and normal Halogen Low Beam Lights... if the bloody koreans can make reliable Xenon Kits for $220 delivered then surely HSV can put a bit more effort into decent "safe" lighting...

Maximum $500 to put decent headlight globes in the thing with pop up washer jets in the bumper!

JK



http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg[/IMG]

i think its the flared edges on the bottom of the front bar that look the worst. kinda looks like a snow plow.

VT spec

JK

[alpha1]

I think HSV have employed Pro-Hart as their chief designer...its a friggin mess.

[JUSO5L]

I like the bonnet and ........only the bonnet. Looks like I will be sticking with version 1 for a little longer now.

[W427GOT1]

mmm...i like it in that it look loud!!...

makes the W427 look dated...and the model is only just over 12 months old..

eh....time still ticks on with design..

smiles..

[tim_k]

Intelligent launch control pegs engine rpm in the meat of the engine’s torque band during hard launches - a boon for amateur drag racers.



Launch control and competition mode ay...... Wonder what sort of response people will get from HSV when they return them with wrecked clutches!? "Sorry, but this was caused due to abuse"

Thats gonna be pretty hard to swallow when you've got Garth Tander telling you to floor it then dump the clutch


And diffs!

Exactly:flipoff:

Remember people, as the WA HSV service manager told me after I fried my gearbox and had the warranty voided

"It is just a Commodore and should only be driven like it's a Commodore"

I'd have preferred HSV to start moving to the BMW M style of car design. More discreet is better

[jai]

"Before the finished product is allowed to leave our premises, every detail is checked by a uniquely precise instrument – the human eye." - Also known as the worlds most IMPRECISE instrument - morons.

You sir are gold :) Made me laugh.

I wonder if they brought new eyes since E1... because damned if my quarter panels have been slapped together and welded crooked, my build plate was from someone elses HSV and the bumper to bonnet clearance gives me enough room to store a surfboard in!

JK

[bok1]

i like the look of the new hsv range.as others have said there will be members here who will get 1 and we will all think it looks great when lowered and a new set of rim's.i for 1 will be going and having a look on the weekend.

phil

[shiny_suit_man]

Well done holden... Your officially the new subaru... Next u'll be making miniture clubsport hatchbacks...

[smokey777]

Same here kpop couldnt think of stormtrooper name lol


http://www.themotorreport.com.au/wp-content/gallery/2010-hsv-e-series-2-range/2010_hsv_e2_clubsport-static-061.jpg

literally the 1st thing i thought of when i saw that picture was:

http://images.halloweencostumes.com/authentic-stormtrooper-cost.jpg

[MNR-0]

Front bar looks pox

I'd change it for a W427 look myself. Other than that - nice

They really gotta get a new design team if they gonna keep pushing that flared look at the bottom sides. Clean lines - not lumpy ricer gay bay looks

[signature coupe]

well it just proves that it dosnt matter what they do to this current shape(ve)it will always be ugly,time to change shape already

[Marco]

well it just proves that it dosnt matter what they do to this current shape(ve)it will always be ugly,time to change shape already

HSV may have proven now on two separate occasions (E1 and E2) that they haven't got a clue how to improve the VE shape...but that doesn't take away from the fact that the basic VE design, as done by Holden, is actually a very professional bit of work IMHO.

[mustanger]

Good to see that the Manuals get the W427 Clutch :goodjob:

[black_knight]

You sir are gold :) Made me laugh.

I wonder if they brought new eyes since E1... because damned if my quarter panels have been slapped together and welded crooked, my build plate was from someone elses HSV and the bumper to bonnet clearance gives me enough room to store a surfboard in!

JK

Sounds like a friday-arvo special!

[VNV8]

is it just me or is there a shitload of lamborghini murceilago styling in there??? looking at the entire rear bar and the exhaust tips its pretty clear.

[CSP]

They have screwed up SO big... I mean, look at this pic. Check out the beautiful lines from the front of the front door back. The front quarter panel doesn't even follow the lines of the car!

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg

It's like a VS Commodore with a VZ HSV body kit... Actually no, that would look BETTER!

[LSX-438]

I reckon a lot of design queues have been lifted from here......

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2009/8/large/2458087.jpg

[dallascowboy]

What happened HSV? E1 looked so good!

very ricer now...and its way! to busy to be seen as prestigious......looks like a cluster F#*k up front

looks like what a 17 year old would design if they had the chance, does it come with neon lights under the dash?

oh well it might grow on me

[CSP]

Oh, and someone should tell the boys at HSV.

Launch control is NOT new.
Cruise downhill assist is NOT new.
Auto power up on all 4 windows is NOT new.

They should also know there's these things called bi-xenon headlights. As well as integrated antennas!

I'll take one of these instead thanks HSV!

http://moderateinthemiddle.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/thehomer.jpg

[Coupe60]

How to make a clean looking spoiler kit in 2 easy steps.

STEP 1.

http://www.desktopcar.net/wallpaper/5543-2/Holden_coupe60_122.jpg

STEP 2.

Do not interfere with step 1

I third that :) You have hit the nail on the head there, Steve. HSV, take that pic of the Coupe60 as a lesson on how to make a car look horn. Spolier looks and is utterly brilliantly executed, car has beautifully clean lines, looks mean without being ricey.

Now park that Coupe60 next to the E2 GTS pic and unfortunately it makes the E2 look like a sad mistake. The best thing HSV can do is rip off that front bumper and get rid of the silly nostrils. While I think the E2 GTS rims and the senator model look hot, the E1 looks heaps better overall; its a cleaner design, the E2 is a mess. The Audi R8-style LEDs arent even in the right position, they look like an afterthought. DAMNIT HSV, WHY?

Maybe these E2 looks will grow on me but atm I am very disappointed with this update, they should be doing better than this. Good on them for putting all this technology together but I just wish HSV would stop tarting things up, get a proper expensive-looking interior and stop wasting time on bigger motors when power was never an issue.

[CSP]

Message from Starfleet: "NEW HSV RANGE REVEALED"

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/SiskoAnimated.gif

[tyrhantc]

I think someone said it before but the side skirts are just too plain for the front and rear kits. Not saying that I like the car but they just dont seem right. Should maybe have a side skirt like E1 Maloo.

[SSBarney]

i think its the flared edges on the bottom of the front bar that look the worst. kinda looks like a snow plow.



i think it resembles a VT SS front bar at the bottom


I think someone said it before but the side skirts are just too plain for the front and rear kits. Not saying that I like the car but they just dont seem right. Should maybe have a side skirt like E1 Maloo.

Agree, from the pics the same agresive flaring does not seem to flow down the side of the car so the bumpers look tacked on


Although overall its not bad and think im mildy tempted.......

[`redoctober]

Message from Starfleet: "NEW HSV RANGE REVEALED"

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc80/cspbiz/SiskoAnimated.gif

NEW HSV RANGE REVEALED

http://i26.tinypic.com/kf1g6d.gif
http://i25.tinypic.com/2yu0ps4.gif

[gollum]

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg

Where to start ??? Loose the fugly bonnet " slots " .....

Loose the leds from front, ( who's idea was that !! )

Loose the,......oh never mind !!!

:spew:

[DALER]

WILL LOOK GOOD AS A DIECAST MODEL

:rofl:

[vecommo]

NEW HSV RANGE REVEALED

http://i26.tinypic.com/kf1g6d.gif
http://i25.tinypic.com/2yu0ps4.gif

:rofl::rofl::rofl::goodjob:

Lol, nice work!

[LooneyR8]

http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/09/HSV_GTS_04_600_700.jpg

Where to start ??? Loose the fugly bonnet " slots " .....

Loose the leds from front, ( who's idea was that !! )

Loose the,......oh never mind !!!

:spew:

I like the GTS......BUT...

Colour code the nostrils to the bonnet
Remove the chrome and have it black to blend with the grill
Smooth out the snow plow edges on the front bumper
Remove the flag emblem on the back and just colour code the GTS emblem only
Tint the LED driving lights so they arent as bold
Make the wheels Satin Black inner and Gloss Black outer

All I can think of at the moment.

[255-LS1]

I sure hope HSV is reading this thread haha hoping for good feed back.

:spew:

game on.

[Ellistwo]

NEW HSV RANGE REVEALED

http://i26.tinypic.com/kf1g6d.gif
http://i25.tinypic.com/2yu0ps4.gif



HaHaHa that is brilliant.

[MARRA]

Be interesting to see how HSV's Market Share goes now after the release. But im sure the GFC will be blamed for a drop if there is one and they wont admit they got it wrong.....

[boyley]

Where to start ??? Loose the fugly bonnet " slots " .....

Loose the leds from front, ( who's idea was that !! )

Loose the,......oh never mind !!!

:spew:

I dont think you'll have an issue if they are loose:goodjob:

[aedeau]

I dont think you'll have an issue if they are loose:goodjob:

LOL... gold :doh:

[BUTE1]

has to be one of the worst rear ends ever, looks like they raided the parts bin from all the failed pontiac's:doh:

was going to swap the maloo for a new senator, probably go something completey different now

[jrckelley]

Oh, and someone should tell the boys at HSV.

Launch control is NOT new.
Cruise downhill assist is NOT new.
Auto power up on all 4 windows is NOT new.

They should also know there's these things called bi-xenon headlights. As well as integrated antennas!

I'll take one of these instead thanks HSV!

http://moderateinthemiddle.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/thehomer.jpg

thats the first thing that came to mind ahahaha

as a fraud xr6t owner I didnt want to say anything but my next car is going to be an eight but not one of these.
Might be worth checking that fords disign head didnt make a quiet switch to HSV.
Come to think of it, fords marketing has goten better, holden styling seems to be on a bit of a slide. has the world gone topsyturvey. On the plus side - Holden might release fugly Hot Turbo 6

[Fnomna]

Seriously, is it too late for HSV to change their designs for E2?

[SteveK]

http://i26.tinypic.com/kf1g6d.gif

Classic Seinfeld.

Now do one with this reaction.

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/userpics/10062/awwwchinkew4.gif

[Coupe60]

Seriously, is it too late for HSV to change their designs for E2?

I share your thoughts. I have no doubt these things would go fast as they already do but with launch control etc esp on the GTS they should be easily break into the high 4-sec bracket for 0-100km/h dash and dynamics will be improved with the new tech.

Styling-wise I dont like it, it looks a mess at the front (except the senator), rear is OK, I dont mind the rims. Overall its only a 7/10 at best for mine.

[Vulture]

You blokes who are posting those animated GIFs are great! :rofl: keep them coming. I think those pics alone should be shown in the HSV boardrooms. Tells the story better than 10 000 words!

[Wezza]

Those GTS wheels are hideous.