LS1 Forums HSV E2 Release Photos

[swingtan]

OK. I've been down to HSV and picked up the memory card. I've spent lunch having a quick play but the shooting was hard going. ( for the photo buffs, ISO 800 F3.5 and 1/30 sec exposures). these are the "lower quality" shots ( JPG off the camera, not the raw shots ) so bear with me. Anyway, here's the first few.


GTS Front: While there's been a lot of talk already, the big note is the "G8 Style" bonnet. It's a fairly big difference to the stock VE one and for those thinking about retro fitting one, forget it. The entire front was redesigned to work with the bonnet and it simply will not fit as a bolt on replacement. It's not unlike trying to fit a VZ Monaro bonnet on another VZ car.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Front.JPG


Note the new shape of the guard at the front of the wheel

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Guard.JPG


The emblem has a rather nice "carbon Fibre" look the the background.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Emblem.JPG


The grill has a new look to it, with the checkering running in offset rows. It's a little hard to see but every second row is stepped back.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Badge_01.JPG


The rear badging is more than just an emblem, it also indices an option level for the HSV range. Normally, the back ground for the "lions head and racing helmet" is red. If you option up the car with the 6 pot calipers etc, you get the yellow background. the same goes for the wheel caps.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Badge_02.JPG


The full rear shot shows the new exhaust outlets. they are a decent size and with the "Bi-Modal" exhaust option should breath very well.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/GTS_Rear.JPG


The R8 retains it's classic looks, while still getting the updated body package. The center of the bumper still has the recessed shape of the GTS, but in this case it's painted with the body colour. The shape is called the "shockwave" theme and it sits recessed about 5mm. I must admitt that for the first 5 min I was expecting it to link to a web pressentation. ( The IT guys will get that....).

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/R8_Front.JPG


The LED "day time" driving lights are pretty good! They seem brighter than the ones I've seen on European and Japanese cars and should help with daytime or hazardous conditions. They are not so bright that the blind on coming traffic though.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/R8-GTS.JPG


A view of the "red" badging and the LED tail lights.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/R8_Badge.JPG


The Maloo ( in Poison Ivy ). The metalic pics up the light ( what light there was ) very well and should look great under street lights.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo_Front.JPG


Last pic for now. The Senator..... I have to admit that the new grill emblem was what caught my eye first. This would be one emblem that I'd be happy to leave alone. It's a very clean looking car.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Front.JPG

More coming soon.....

[Belzey]

Your pictures make me like it :lol: I am contradicting myself here and I do not like it!

[miss monaro]

Thank you for the pics I have a S1 R8 317 and only one photo on HSV site with bonnet up.....kws for R8,and rear shot would be much welcome!..thanks again:)

[XUV]

I don't like the GTS wheels and the Exhaust :spew: 2 twin 4''s would've looked tuffer .
the Senator and GTS front , is a bit in ya face .
The Maloo's O.K.

[Vulture]

The Clubsport looks a lot better than the GTS, white seems to suit it.
Poison Ivy colour looks great.

[calais190]

These make the car look a lot better, probably look better again in real life.

[NickS]

I'm starting to think an Evoke Senator with a Series 1 rear bar and Series 1 wheels would be pretty damn sweet ...

:goodjob:

Looks like they have fixed up the huge gaps in the Senator front bar ... the grill is a little large, but I'll get used to it. That's about as promising as it gets at this stage.

What's with the yellow ? Ferrari can pull off yellow badges, HSV can't.

[GTS LSA]

These photos do it more justice than the HSV site (re my negative initial reaction) the GTS looks much better here

[Gee]

These are better pics than the official pics, worth the miniscule wait.

Looking forward to more.

[benniemc]

Jeeze your pics do the car way better justice!

I like the new triange GTS wheels, wonder what they'd be like on my red VY?

Yeah, the green colour (Posion Ivy?) on the Maloo is awesome!

[aedeau]

IMO the maloo front looks better than the GTS. The chrome is too ricer. I like the senator front, but if i had one, i'd debadge that stupidly overside hsv badge.

[255-LS1]

Nice pics, but that "flag" badge looks way tacky, just looks too out of place up there.

[C4B]

I wish they had have put the daytime running lights below the actual headlights.... I know they've placed them there to give the car the effect of being lower, but to me they look like they're in the wrong spot.

The front of the GTS just looks wrong to me.....

[sirhsv]

Nice pics swingtan, these make the car look so much better then the HSV pics. Much better. But still not a fan of the new look.

[pelagonia_ss]

I'm in love with the new E2. HSV I will swap my missers for a GTS thanks. . .

[Big_Valven]

Great photography; but if these are better shots than HSVs own, Im really not impressed. The styling of the E1s were classic, well integrated and svelte, whilst still being brash and a little outrageous. These look overdone and awkward; they dont complement the original lines of the VE IMO.

And the wheels on the GTS? They look like they need their pre-delivery covers removed. Wait, thats actually the design theyre going with?

[aedeau]

are those rear bumper vents there for any reason? to cool the brakes down? or simply for show?

EDIT: had another look, they don't look like vents at all?

[Ghosn]

Unfortunately these pics don't really change my view.

[V-Car]

Thanks for youre excellent pics swingtan, top effort and much appreciated. :thumbsup:
Your pics are heaps better than the ones on the HSV site.

Hey Seldo, does the boot badge remind you of the old 179 badges? :rofl:

[SHANESVZSS]

I like the E2 , except the wheels

[Mikey]

I wish they had have put the daytime running lights below the actual headlights.... I know they've placed them there to give the car the effect of being lower, but to me they look like they're in the wrong spot.I have always thought the angle of the VE head light was set wrong from day one. The E1 shows it up as well if you look. To me the E2 makes it look worse and if I had my say, I too would have preferred the LED display under the head light as well because it would have given a much need blur between the factory look and the HSV lines.

It would be interesting to hear from HSV whether they have struggled with E1 and E2 around the factory placed head light.

[SteveK]

Damn you and your 10-22 wideness. ;)

Ok, the models are starting to look more interesting with these shots. Still think there is too much make up.

On the GTS for instance, take out those silver eyebrows within the kidney sections of the grille and make it more open, to keep in sync with the height of the headlights. Colour code the black plastic on the bonnet scoups.

[zorro]

I'm starting to think an Evoke Senator with a Series 1 rear bar and Series 1 wheels would be pretty damn sweet ...


check out the Grange rear bar, if that fits it will be the go...

Great pics Simon, look forward to the rest when you get the time

:goodjob:

[Shulkor]

Thanks for the pics swingtan :)

Your pics make them look alot better i still dont like them at the moment might need to see one for real to decide.

I got a funny feeling the gts could look ok in black couse it will hide alot of the lines and not look so bitzy meshing the current black parts with the black paint i could be wrong tho.

[Ozzy_jonno]

those photos make the E2 looks so much better then the other photos i have seen very nice work.

[Chappie]

Great Pics Simon cheers mate.

The Senator is the Pic of the bunch IMO. :bow:

[nang3]

initial impressions are that i dont really like it but il leave final judgement til i see in the flesh...
I reckon the original HSV VE shape is a killer so i cant see them stuffing it up too much with these minor changes

[BlownLS7]

nice pics thanks for sharing,

cheers paul

[Carby]

Great photo's and like many of the other comments I'm warming to the vehicle a bit more - that rear end isn't quite that bad after all...................

[vecommo]

These photos do it more justice than the HSV site (re my negative initial reaction) the GTS looks much better here

I agree, although I still think the GTS wheels are dreadful.

[Chappie]

GTS Wheels are not very appealing to say the least. :spew:

[swingtan]

Here's another look at Launch Control and the "sports" setting for the MRC. ( right click and save as. warning 12MB file )

Launch Control and MRC Demo (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/gmgtlaunchandcomp.avi)

[Curtis-R]

Great Pics as per usual Simon!

yeah I agree not a huge fan of the GTS rims as they traditionally are a stand out wheel thats fairly sought after and kept. Having said that it's easy to throw another set of aftermarket wheels on there hopefully..

Once the car is dropped perhaps (ride height) I am sure the stance and presence on the road will be very impressive.

[QIKMIK]

I got a funny feeling the gts could look ok in black couse it will hide alot of the lines and not look so bitzy meshing the current black parts with the black paint i could be wrong tho.Had the same thought about the Senator. I have a black VE at the moment and didn't really want another black car. This may change my mind.

Mick

[Luke_]

Hopefully the hub bores are the same to adapt the first shape VE wheels.

[Curtis-R]

Here's another look at Launch Control and the "sports" setting for the MRC. ( right click and save as. warning 12MB file )

Launch Control and MRC Demo (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/gmgtlaunchandcomp.avi)

Interesting Vid also Simon.. Not sure if others agree but the ride height of
the car they used looked pretty low? Not convinced on the launch control :lol:

[Ryzz]

Interesting Vid also Simon.. Not sure if others agree but the ride height of
the car they used looked pretty low? Not convinced on the launch control :lol:

Either the GTS sits lower, or there is an optional SV Upgrade suspension kit that lowers it. This might only be available on the Clubby though, cant remember off hand.

[R8tourer]

Great pics there mate, I really hate the look of them though... looks way too ricey too me :confused:

[moconn20]

Is the clubsports bonnet winking at me?

I swear those bonnet vents are different sizes... on my screen they are anyway. the RHS appears alot slimmer.

[aedeau]

Interesting Vid also Simon.. Not sure if others agree but the ride height of
the car they used looked pretty low? Not convinced on the launch control :lol:

yeh I watched that as well, seemed to bog down a bit at the start?

[BlownLS7]

My 2005 B7 A4 has a launch control, works a treat, what boxes do these E2.s have?

cheers paul




Here's another look at Launch Control and the "sports" setting for the MRC. ( right click and save as. warning 12MB file )

Launch Control and MRC Demo (http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/gmgtlaunchandcomp.avi)

[1BEAST2NV]

first photo doesnt do it justice imo

but other than that They are awesome, hate the gts wheels.....no brainer there....

hurry up and start buying ppl so the E1 goes down in price for me to buy in 6 mths hahaha

They WILL go down in price..... its inevitable :D

[Uncle Tone]

Absolutely and utterly love the GTS. :love:

For an update, they have hit the nail on the head. Its perfect. The wheels, while not awesome, will grow on me. You can get that style wheel in silver only as well I think.

[vyc4b]

Give me a green GTS without the rear wing and I'd be a happy little boy......them wheels look great IMO.
Cheers.

[Devoran]

Not a fan of any of these so far, except maybe the Senator (minus that enormous HSV badge.) If the tourer looks just like the sedan at the front end, I'm glad I got a series 1!

[SharkBiscuit]

I'm a big fan of the darker coloured GTS AND the Big yellow brakes under the two tone rims.

The cutouts in the rear are NQR but are managed with the darker colours.

I wonder if a delete option on the spoiler back to a senator size would be done.

BTW, has anyone seen a price list? This state by state driveaway no more to pay thing seems to have confused the Manufacturers.

[gmack]

I agree, the GTS in the darker colours with the yellow highlights looks good. Photos rarely do justice to cars. E1's don't always look great in photo's but we are all so used to seeing them in the flesh that it doesn't realy matter what the photo looks like because we all know they look the goods. I think that once we have seen these HSVs in the flesh and get used to the new look people will like them more. Or at least I hope that will happen!

[Alex81]

From someone that has had 4 of these new, out of all them the only 2 acceptable for is the Senator and Maloo, the GTS wheels make it look cheap as does that Yellow boot badge

[UTESRULE]

are the my10 released yet

[swingtan]

Here's a few more pics.....

The R8 name plate.
http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/R8_Plate.JPG


The Maloo name plate.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo_Plate.JPG


Vented Goodness.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo_Badge_01.JPG


Three way.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Triple.JPG


The boys "ogling" the senator.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Team.JPG


The Maloo rear end. I like it!

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo_Rear.JPG


The exhaust tips are very nice. No, they are not oval, that's lens distortion. They are round.....

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo_Tips.JPG


How good does this look?

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Maloo.JPG

[Spider]

are the my10 released yet
Wut?? :confused:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Nidz]

Love the colour of the Maloo.. Would so like that but in the wagon.. Can't wait to see some of the new Orange colour..

[Speedy Gonzales]

Disappointing on all levels.

Great photos Swingtan, how good is that sign next to the R8 about "think quality"? :lol:

I DONT BELIEVE SO, wait till someone does a minor bingle on the front or rear end, wonder how much that will cost, maybe the cost of a turbo kit :D

The less said about the wheels the better.

[berroca]

i am actually a fan of them

i reckon they look nuts, esp with those led lights under the headlights

can't wait to see one on the road, reckon they will have even more presence

great work with the photos swingtan, cheers for sharing them with us :)

oh and how good is that colour of the maloo!!!!!!

[gmack]

Nice pics SWINGTAN. Got any of the Karma Tourer?:goodjob:

[Mad4Monaros]

Good photo's. Makes me like them alittle bit more.

Can't stand the rear bar on them. Front bar is growing on me slowly. The wheels are yuck.

Glad my old man bought a E1 GTS last week instead of these.

[VZSSL986LTRUTE]

This is no Holden!!! its a HSV AURION!!!!!!! i hate it, Hate it!!!!!! How much sh*t needs to be going on, Lost count how many vents there are and almost as many lights,SHAME ON U HOLDEN..... Hahahaha Sorry but its that hideous i had to comment....................

[swingtan]

Special request from Nidz......

Did someone say WildFire?????

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/WildFire_01.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/WildFire_02.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/WildFire_03.JPG

[Shulkor]

The maloo looks so much better in that color then the green.

i really like that color :)

[macca33]

Great shots there Simon - your lens work is outstanding and they were well worth the wait.

I'm sure there were more shots of Senator Signature though!!!

[UTESRULE]

didnt they have that colour in the vt range

[VNV8]

that was tiger mica, totally different. this seems much brighter and more pearlescent, even compared to fusion. less orange/bronze and more gold than either of the old colours. Any word on whether or not any of the vents are functional? Or what has been changed on the GTS to get up to 325kw?

Personally I like the R8, dont like the front bars on any of the other models. The yellow over red on the GTS badging isnt to my taste either. Launch control is an awesome feature though, go HSV!

[Strick]

any interior shots yet??

[bad88u]

IM SOLD ON THE MALOO, GREEN OR WILD FIRE. :bow:



CANT WAIT TO SEE THESE AT THE DEALERS,:smilesandbanana:

[Spider]

any interior shots yet??

Swingy ran out of time :(

I'm dying to see some interior shots.

[Strick]

spewen, oh well. would really love a gts with all the extras, really like em, good work HSV

[Ryzz]

Swingy ran out of time :(

I'm dying to see some interior shots.

From what we have been told, there were no interior changes.

[Carby650]

Great pics guys. Spent some time at work today (don't tell the boss) checking out the range on the HSV site.
To mind the Senator is the pic of the bunch.
I also love that green on the Maloo.
Just then my 11 year old son had a look over my shoulder at the pics posted here and his 1st comment to me was " Dad they look a little too rice "
Tend to agree from these pics. Like many have said you will need to see them in the flesh before passing judgement.
cheers
Carby650

[white lie]

As has been said numerous times, your pics do them a lot more justice than the HSV site!

I wouldn't say i'm loving the Senator but its definately growing on me... Love the look of the carbon badges though, even if they are a bit ricey

[QIKMIK]

I wouldn't say i'm loving the Senator but its definately growing on me...I thought it would take a lot longer but I have to agree. Seeing Kris's photoshops of the Senator with colour-coded rear bar in the E2 launch thread made me see the light. Without the large blacked out section, the rear doesn't look half bad.

Mick

[swingtan]

Last pics tonight are of the Senator.....

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Badge.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Front_01.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Plate.JPG

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Rear.JPG

[Avalanche]

Awesome pics swingtan:goodjob: Did you happen to get any tourer pics??? Mrs Avalanche would greatly appreciate a shot of her new mobile office.

[swingtan]

I'll post a few up tomorrow....

[QIKMIK]

Thank you thank you thank you, swingy. My mind is back on track. 3 1/2 years 'til end of lease and the Senator will be in the shed.

Mick

[Excellent]

swingtan, those pics are probably better than HSV's own.

I'm starting to like the styling more. Can't wait to check the cars out in the metal.

I said the darker colours tend to suit the E2 more but that pic of the white car looks horn.

[boyley]

I'll have a senator in black please :deal:

[STATIE]

Jeez Swingtan - I'm real impressed with your creativity & fancy camera with a bent fuzzy lense - but for Christ sakes - I hope you took some normal non arty farty pictures front on - side on - rear & from an angle of each car as well as interior & engine bay pics.

[Avalanche]

I'll post a few up tomorrow....

At your convenience mate, its not as though the dealers even have a clue yet.

[dallascowboy]

The only ones that look any good are the 1's with 1 colour bumbers...and thats cause they disguise the shape of the body kit...if you have to disguise it to make it look good, you aint done a good job......

they still look like they got a 17 year old to design the kit..."awsome man, i like that and that and that...lets just put it all on!"

way too busy to be prestige!

cheers for pics anyways...just confirms my dislike

[gladrock]

I dont know about you guys, but I love this!!!!

Thanks for the great pics Simon!

Any chance you got a silver Maloo pic

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3502/3903207273_db018255d1_b.jpg

[iloveholden]

The more i see the Maloo and the Senator the more i like :)....so maybe it will grow on me??? :1peek:

[pmac]

that senators chrome grill reminds me of a vy berlina/calais grill :limpy: and what were they thinking with the two chrome cutouts on the gts bonnent :doh:

otherwise liking the maloo especially in the 2 new colours
but id rather have a vz

[jaykay]

Im VERY new with Photoshop, but heres an attemps to remove the nostrils.

BTW I love the nostrils:)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/3903298629_eb0c37318d.jpg

:goodjob: can you do the other pic too please :bow:

[ED]

Not a bad looking lineup.. Got a few dislikes though. The wheels on the GTS :( The tail lights on the maloo still have 'wings'. And my personal itch, the vxss style of flared edge on the bottom of the front bumpers. Yuck ! Each to there own though. I love the LED lights in the front ala audi !

[Luke_]

`redoctober, 110% improvement well done mate :)

[255-LS1]

`redoctober, 110% improvement well done mate :)

+ 1, nice grille mate. Any chance of pissing the plows off the bottom of the front bumper lol.

[Bazz]

Nostrils have looked good before, but that was on fronts which weren't as busy. Your photoshop with the nostrils gone looks 100% better. Maybe new modifications with bonnets going on "without" nostrils?

[nang3]

I love that gold on the Maloo.. are the tail lights in the tailgate real lights now or just stickers still?

but is it just me or do the front bumpers seem to be sticking out further than E1?? almost like a bottom 'jaw' protruding further out than normal or something???

[swingtan]

Nang, you would be correct. The front body work on the E2 was moved slightly forward to fit in with the new bonnet. That's why it will not be possible to simply retro fit the new bonnet on an older car, the bonnet will overhang the grill area.

Simon

[DALER]

I just want one MORE THAN EVER NOW
:goodjob::goodjob::goodjob::goodjob:

[Vulture]

The only ones that look any good are the 1's with 1 colour bumbers...and thats cause they disguise the shape of the body kit...if you have to disguise it to make it look good, you aint done a good job......

they still look like they got a 17 year old to design the kit..."awsome man, i like that and that and that...lets just put it all on!"

way too busy to be prestige!

cheers for pics anyways...just confirms my dislike

Yes, well said. The silver Clubsport in the official pics *almost* looks good - but that is due to the colour disguising the more rancid design elements.

[brockster]

Well i have to say i love the back of the gts, and i love the 2 colours on the maloo they suit it well, but the senator at the front just looks like a VY sv8 or calais with it's nose streched towards the ground to look like a ve because when i look at that grill on the senator it looks like it is screaming i am a VY calais. Well done to you swingtan on the picc's though but definately not a big fan of the e2 just doesn't cut it with the looks too ricey for me.

[Excellent]

One day after the release and I still haven't voted in the poll. I deliberately steered clear of the pictures this morning and looked at these pics again.

I'm actually starting to like the styling of the both Clubsport and GTS. Maybe I should go see my doctor?

[swingtan]

Hi All. Here are the long awaited for Tourer pics. This was probably the hardest car to shoot on the day due to the colour and the lighting. So the shots are a little rough....

The guys, still talking shop...... the Tourer looks much the same as the rest of the range from the front.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Group.JPG


The side shot shows the wagon shape. I really like the look of this! ( Side note: not a bad shot for hand held and 1/5th second. No, it's not great, but it's all I had.... )

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Side.JPG


Rear shot. Does any one else hear "Sir Mix-A-Lot".....
"I like big buts and i can not lie....."

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Rear_01.JPG


The Tourer gets the std. R8 badge treatment.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Badge.JPG


It also gets the snazzy twin alloy tips of the Maloo.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Tips.JPG


Finally, the name plate....

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Plate.JPG

Coming soon, some pics showing the difference between the GTS front wheels and the STD. ones, a couple a partial shots of the grange ( no front on sorry ) and some shots of the "Avenue of Honor" including the Brock Memorial car.

Simon.

[Devoran]

Hmm actually - after seeing THOSE tourer photos, I'm back on side lol.. that looks good. As a few others have mentioned, I think it is all about the colour combo's .. that Tourer's colour 'holds back' the initial in-your-faceness of the Clubby front bar in my opinion (hope that makes sense) and it looks quite sharp.

Still not a fan of the bonnet nostrils though, think it's a bit out of place on a wagon.

The real shame is that they're still using the SSV tail lights too - I was really hoping to see a vertical version of the circular LED's or something as this is the only part I don't like about my E1.

[-GTS-]

Are those Pentagon wheels now shadow chrome??

[255-LS1]

smooth work red.

cheers

EDIT: just looking at that shot. Why did they put the stupid LED lights down so low. Theres a perfect place for them to work in right below the head lights :(

[xtrem8]

Nice pics, but that "flag" badge looks way tacky, just looks too out of place up there.

agreed!!!!

[nang3]

that tourer looks pretty nice for a wagon, love the colour !! that or black/tinted/dumped would be horn !

[Maccas]

after seeing some good proper shots of the E2 i dont actually mind it, but will still reserve judgement for when i see them in person

[EddieVE06]

you'd think after 3 years they would finally fix the colour difference between bumper and metal.

Still very visible in the tourer in the side on shot.

[Curtis-R]

Well after many pages of pictures, reading and opinions, it was time to see these HSV E2's in the flesh..!

Big thanks to Bouka for organising this little trip to Clayton.. :goodjob:

Firstly i've never been through the production line @ HSV so that alone was a great experience, but to see nearly every colour, and model variant from all angles has most definately changed my initial opinion on the E2.

Not all the models took my fancy, but will say the Senator is very nice, especially in black or the dark red with the new multi spoke wheel design..

The wheels looked very suited and there are a few nice options with the rims etc..

The R8 tourer wagon was really nice and I walked out with quite a different outlook on the car.. not everything was my cup of tea but I have no doubt once people start to see them on the road and in the flesh opinions will change.. having said that the rear bumper looks better all the one colour, i.e on the black..

UT lurved the GTS and from seeing it in person vs the photos its hard to make judgement. I even said to myself the GTS rims could grow on me..

Obvioulsy could only take pics outside and this new colour, optioned up GTS was out the front

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/VE-SS_2006/gts-e2.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/VE-SS_2006/ut-e2.jpg

the 3 other E2 critics... UT, Mustanger and Bouka :)
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/VE-SS_2006/hsvmob.jpg


:cheers:

[swingtan]

You do realise that I work only 5 min away from there...... Where was my invite ?

[Belzey]

More pictures I see the more I like it :)

[jaykay]

More pictures I see the more I like it :)
You gonna get one Kel.... :stick:

[subtle]

can anyone tell me what color the wagon is in swingtans pics?
cheers scotty.

[bouka]

it is karma scott

[mustanger]

smooth work red.

cheers

EDIT: just looking at that shot. Why did they put the stupid LED lights down so low. Theres a perfect place for them to work in right below the head lights :(

I asked that same question today and the response was something to do with the front reinforcement bar being in the way or something along those lines.

I agree with you, the DRL`s would have looked better directly under the headlights.

Having said that, they do look alot better in real life ,than in the pics.:teach:

[Belzey]

You gonna get one Kel.... :stick:

Perhaps perhaps perhaps!! :lol:

[mustanger]

Are those Pentagon wheels now shadow chrome??

Two types of Pentagons are now available , the standard type and shadow chrome.

[subtle]

it is karma scott

looked more blue/grey to me george but maybe its just the pics.
cheers scotty.

[iloveholden]

I'm starting to like it :hide:

[BigAl83]

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Tourer_Group.JPG

Really starting to grow on me, must be the darker colours. Even the GTS rims are looking better. I think by the time they're on the road there'll be a lot more love for them.
:goodjob: Swingtan.

[255-LS1]

Everyone gets off on "its starting to grow on me" or "give it time and ill like it". Think about all the premium high performance cars in the world, 99% of them you look at them for the 1st glimpse, even in photos and you "fark that looks unreal, i want one". Think about HSV monaros, VX HSVs, VZ HSVs... well pretty much all series are mint looking cars. For E2 perhaps HSV should change there slogan to "HSV... I will want one after i it grows on me and i see it in the flesh and i change the bonnet and paint a few bits and change the rims..."

Not good enough IMO, as long as i can remember (youngen) HSV has always produced mint cars that even in pictures you want one - hence their slogan. But this, well this is just something else.

[ti0350]

HSV- I just want one, well not this time.. Was seriously thinking of going a
R8 Tourer and was looking forward to seeing the E2 specially since this would have been my first HSV, but after spending a bit longer going over all the pics reading all the specs I'm either going to go for a special edition SSV or a Calais V Wagon instead..

[Rub]

:lmao:

muzzy and george, you guys are doing well enough to afford different clothes, surely

:goodjob:

[vyc4b]

lol, 'throw the horns up Tone..... :headbang:

[Uncle Tone]

lol, 'throw the horns up Tone..... :headbang:

Curtis took the picture before I could raise the horns high :bawl:

[macca33]

Thanks for youre excellent pics swingtan, top effort and much appreciated. :thumbsup:
Your pics are heaps better than the ones on the HSV site.

Hey Seldo, does the boot badge remind you of the old 179 badges? :rofl:


I seem to recall the circa-late 60s 327 Chev badge (perhaps others of that era also) having the race flag too!



that was tiger mica, totally different. this seems much brighter and more pearlescent, even compared to fusion. less orange/bronze and more gold than either of the old colours. Any word on whether or not any of the vents are functional? Or what has been changed on the GTS to get up to 325kw?

Personally I like the R8, dont like the front bars on any of the other models. The yellow over red on the GTS badging isnt to my taste either. Launch control is an awesome feature though, go HSV!


Engine output increase was due to bi-modal exhaust (vacuum operated valves) and ECU tweak.



I asked that same question today and the response was something to do with the front reinforcement bar being in the way or something along those lines.

I agree with you, the DRL`s would have looked better directly under the headlights.

Having said that, they do look alot better in real life ,than in the pics.:teach:

:yup:

[Uncle Tone]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/VE-SS_2006/gts-e2.jpg

I feel I must point out that this picture does not do this colour any justice at all. It looks so much better in the flesh.

Not knocking your photography skills Curtis.



Engine output increase was due to bi-modal exhaust (vacuum operated valves) and ECU tweak.

When the lesser models are equipped with the Bi-modal exhaust they are still rated at 317kw. Its more to do with the exhaust centre section being different on the GTS......or at least thats what I think he said..... :confused:

[mustanger]

Well today, We had the opportunity,along with Curtis,Bouka and UT, to go down to HSV Head Office and get a tour of the factory and more importantly view the new series 2 HSV`s.

I have been there before but I still like to see how things are done these days. There were only a few New HSV`s getting assembled as dealers will not be getting stock for about 2 weeks.

First impressions were:

Better than expected ,but not as good as when the First E Series were released. I think selecting the right colour will have a major say in what looks good and what doesn`t. There is a lot of blacked out sections and a lot of scoops and vents.

The front Daylight Running Lights (DRL) actually look OK but in my opinion, would have looked better if they were directly below the headlight.I asked if they could have been placed there and their response was "The front reinforcement bar will interfere".

Interior is unchanged , Sheetmetal is unchanged other than the bonnet on R8`s ,GTS and Maloo. Senator does not get the vents in the bonnet.

The new exhaust tips look OK but they are very similar to the FPVs. You may be able to put after market quad tips ,if you prefer ,as they are only appear to be clamped on.

The Grange will NOT get any changes at all, other than new wheels and exhaust options , not even the new front bar, which I thought was a bit strange.

It will not be long before you start spotting them on the road (particularly with the DRL`s) and time will tell whether they are a hit or not......Cheers John

[Curtis-R]

[I feel I must point out that this picture does not do this colour any justice at all. It looks so much better in the flesh.

Not knocking your photography skills Curtis.



All good and i agree UT, was just my blackberry tho ;)

Also cant get over the size and weight of those yellow AP six pots!

[bouka]

Was great to see them in the flesh. We were certainly looked after and spent a couple of hours in the factory. :goodjob: HSV (Andrew). There are certainly some very passionate people that work there.

Still not convinced but certainly much better looking in the metal. My advice would be to reserve your opinion until you see them in person.

6 potters are huge and very impressive as are the penatgon rims in shadow chrome (or whatever there called).

Red Passion Senator looked fantastic and would loved to have seen some more GTS's, especially in Evoke or Red.

The more time we spent looking at them in the various specs and colors, the better they looked.

Did i mention the Red Passion Senator?

[seldo]

Thanks for youre excellent pics swingtan, top effort and much appreciated. :thumbsup:
Your pics are heaps better than the ones on the HSV site.

Hey Seldo, does the boot badge remind you of the old 179 badges? :rofl:Yes Swingie - top work! :)
And yes too V-Car - the badge looks almost like a re-make of the old 179 badge - what I remember of them because the kids used to knick them as fast as you replaced them....

[ssberlina]

Yes Swingie - top work! :)
And yes too V-Car - the badge looks almost like a re-make of the old 179 badge - what I remember of them because the kids used to knick them as fast as you replaced them....

Not quite the same but very similar.

http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/images/thumb/d/da/EHD179.jpg/180px-EHD179.jpg

[`redoctober]

Not quite the same but very similar.

http://holdenpaedia.oldholden.com/images/thumb/d/da/EHD179.jpg/180px-EHD179.jpg

:lol: :lol: I have a set of these sitting at home :)

[swingtan]

here's a couple more pics.....

First, HSV have optioned a new front wheel width for the GTS. It's 0.5" wider than the stock one and allows for a firmer tyre side wall and the overall suspension package saw a 4/10ths of a second gain on a lap of Winton.

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/half_an_Inch.JPG


With a lot of people saying that they like the darker colours, I had to add this shot. Don't ask what Macca is doing behind the car though....

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Black.JPG

Simon.

[vyssbeast]

That senator is lookin awesome!!
Any shots of the rear in black ??

[steve_t]

Is it still an RE050A on the GTS? Just wider?

[Nidz]

it is karma scott

It's too purple to be Karma.. It's defiantely different.. To me it looks like Purple and then Karma painted over the top..

The wheels are shadow.. They call em Milennium.. Shadow Chrome with machined face

I like em.. Not sure abotu that Flesh colour haha..

[Maccas]

as if it wasnt expensive enough to replace a set of tyres on a GTS imagine the cost now ouch :bawl:

[DCV1NU]

Love the look of the tourer:drool: good choice of colour & wheels also:goodjob:

[nang3]

With a lot of people saying that they like the darker colours, I had to add this shot. Don't ask what Macca is doing behind the car though....

http://www.excelerate.com.au/downloads/ls1/ve/e2/Senator_Black.JPG

Simon.


fark that chrome surround on the lower intake is hideous !!

[Ghosn]

To the guys that took the tour - Did you mention all the negative feedback on the forums and if so what was their reply?

[macca33]

Is it still an RE050A on the GTS? Just wider?


EXACT same size / aspect ratio front tyre, it is just stretched a tad wider to the new rim. Apparently, testing has shown that it increase sidewall rigidity - hence the improvements in track times with this tyre.

Regarding track times, the track was Winton and there were improvements in times with the increased tyre width, 'Circuit' setting on the ESC and of course, power increase on GTS. I do not know if the improvements were obtained from the combination of all improvements, or whether they were tested individually, to see just what each alteration did.




To the guys that took the tour - Did you mention all the negative feedback on the forums and if so what was their reply?

Not too sure mate. I do know that HSV reps have been monitoring the threads on LS1 since the tour and subsequent release of the E2.



Simon - that Senator in black is pure horn!!! And maybe, just maybe, I got a tad too excited out of shot....

[Vulture]

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/VE-SS_2006/gts-e2.jpg

OMG! My eyes! :bawl::argue::spew:

[bouka]

lol Simon.

The color, although not my preference, actually looks much better than the photo depicts. Believe it or not, so does the car.

I don't know if i like it or not yet, but seeing it has settled the nausea.

[pelagonia_ss]

I'm on the E2 bandwagon.

Cant see why everybody hates it so much.

[Evman]

Not too sure mate. I do know that HSV reps have been monitoring the threads on LS1 since the tour and subsequent release of the E2.

Dear HSV,

Upon initial judgements I, along with many, possibly most fellow forum members hate what you have done with a once terrific looking model line up. There is much confusion as to why HSV would go so far beyond the realm of decency and build such horrible looking vehicles. The VE model was a major step in the right direction, with huge funding behind it to make it an absolutely terrific car. Yes, you have taken that a step further and included some terrific new features on the E2 HSV's, but it seems that you have forgotten the most important rule of all; No one will buy an ugly car. There is nothing visually new about the E2. Every visual update can be traced to vehicles already produced by other manufacturers. I used to be a huge fan of HSV (obviously) but I'm afraid you have disappointed me and I'm sure many other enthusiasts. You would have been better off taking the route Holden took by leaving the aesthetics and concentrating on other upgrades. Yes, it's fair time that a visual update was introduced but change for the sake of change is not going to win you any credit, especially when it's change for the worse. I hope for HSV's sake that we on this forum are being too critical and that the majority of HSV buyers like the upgrades. However, considering that there are many HSV owners on this forum, many of them repeat owners that are equally shocked at the E2 as I am, it does't look promising. I can only hope that there is a decision soon to be made within HSV management that will lead to a visual update package far sooner that originally planned to return HSV to a level aesthetically equal to but preferably beyond that of the E1. Believe me when I say I hope that the photos do the HSV E2 models horrible injustice, because for me at least if they do not, the HSV E2 will be a huge disappointment.

Regrettably,
Evan

[VZSSL986LTRUTE]

Dear HSV,

Upon initial judgements I, along with many, possibly most fellow forum members hate what you have done with a once terrific looking model line up. There is much confusion as to why HSV would go so far beyond the realm of decency and build such horrible looking vehicles. The VE model was a major step in the right direction, with huge funding behind it to make it an absolutely terrific car. Yes, you have taken that a step further and included some terrific new features on the E2 HSV's, but it seems that you have forgotten the most important rule of all; No one will buy an ugly car. There is nothing visually new about the E2. Every visual update can be traced to vehicles already produced by other manufacturers. I used to be a huge fan of HSV (obviously) but I'm afraid you have disappointed me and I'm sure many other enthusiasts. You would have been better off taking the route Holden took by leaving the aesthetics and concentrating on other upgrades. Yes, it's fair time that a visual update was introduced but change for the sake of change is not going to win you any credit, especially when it's change for the worse. I hope for HSV's sake that we on this forum are being too critical and that the majority of HSV buyers like the upgrades. However, considering that there are many HSV owners on this forum, many of them repeat owners that are equally shocked at the E2 as I am, it does't look promising. I can only hope that there is a decision soon to be made within HSV management that will lead to a visual update package far sooner that originally planned to return HSV to a level aesthetically equal to but preferably beyond that of the E1. Believe me when I say I hope that the photos do the HSV E2 models horrible injustice, because for me at least if they do not, the HSV E2 will be a huge disappointment.

Regrettably,
Evan
That is well said Evman........ I totally agree, if HSV have been monitoring the new release threads i hope that they leave feeling they have let alot of us down.. What is next Holden???!!!! The HSV E2 IS a huge disappointment.......

[Vulture]

Well written Evman. As a current HSV owner I am reluctant to put my money up for an E2. I will consider a Senator but the rear bar is a major turnoff. It just makes the decision to look at something else (2010 Audi RS3, FPV F6, Ford G6ET, 2010 Golf R etc) that much more likely for me. Are you listening HSV?

[Uncle Tone]

Dear HSV,

Upon initial judgements I, along with many, possibly most fellow forum members hate what you have done with a once terrific looking model line up. There is much confusion as to why HSV would go so far beyond the realm of decency and build such horrible looking vehicles. The VE model was a major step in the right direction, with huge funding behind it to make it an absolutely terrific car. Yes, you have taken that a step further and included some terrific new features on the E2 HSV's, but it seems that you have forgotten the most important rule of all; No one will buy an ugly car. There is nothing visually new about the E2. Every visual update can be traced to vehicles already produced by other manufacturers. I used to be a huge fan of HSV (obviously) but I'm afraid you have disappointed me and I'm sure many other enthusiasts. You would have been better off taking the route Holden took by leaving the aesthetics and concentrating on other upgrades. Yes, it's fair time that a visual update was introduced but change for the sake of change is not going to win you any credit, especially when it's change for the worse. I hope for HSV's sake that we on this forum are being too critical and that the majority of HSV buyers like the upgrades. However, considering that there are many HSV owners on this forum, many of them repeat owners that are equally shocked at the E2 as I am, it does't look promising. I can only hope that there is a decision soon to be made within HSV management that will lead to a visual update package far sooner that originally planned to return HSV to a level aesthetically equal to but preferably beyond that of the E1. Believe me when I say I hope that the photos do the HSV E2 models horrible injustice, because for me at least if they do not, the HSV E2 will be a huge disappointment.

Regrettably,
Evan

Dearie me. All this sooking because they changed the bumper bars a bit :doh: :lol:


Well written Evman. As a current HSV owner I am reluctant to put my money up for an E2. I will consider a Senator but the rear bar is a major turnoff. It just makes the decision to look at something else (2010 Audi RS3, FPV F6, Ford G6ET, 2010 Golf R etc) that much more likely for me. Are you listening HSV?

Very interesting list of alternative cars you've picked Vulture. Some even have blackout bits on the front bumper, and I think one may even have LED's!

Funny that :lol:

[Vulture]

Very interesting list of alternative cars you've picked Vulture. Some even have blackout bits on the front bumper, and I think one may even have LED's!

Funny that :lol:

I don't have a problem with the LEDs, black outs etc. It's the overall effect that is important. I think it's just too busy, hence why I may go for a Senator, but only if I can tolerate the rear end.

[holden6.0]

i think they lookin alright i hate sum of the rims tho

[Martin_D]

Lots of plastic chrome goodness and big shiny bits. Its like HSV have gone to a 'My best car part friend' ebay motors accessory store and gone bonkers with Uncle Toms Amex.

[Justice R8]

Lots of plastic chrome goodness and big shiny bits. Its like HSV have gone to a 'My best car part friend' ebay motors accessory store and gone bonkers with Uncle Toms Amex.


I think you meant uncle tones Amex!!:)

Is it just me or does the front remind anyone of a typhoon, especially the GTS. The R8 I could live with but the GTS seems to me that it is a cross between the Typhoon that has been shagged by a W427. Even the exhaust tips look like a ford part.

To me it seems they have cheapend the W427 by blacking out the GTS front with a hideous black that doesnt look like it should taper in. I liked the black front w427, not a real fan of the black on the GTS.

Anyway I am sure they will sell well.

[Evman]

Dearie me. All this sooking because they changed the bumper bars a bit :doh: :lol:

Well I guess at least it shows I'm not one eyed then


Is it just me or does the front remind anyone of a typhoon, especially the GTS.


Yup, it's the shape of the lower air dam that does it IMO

[KPWISHN]

The rims are an absolute abomination. :spew:

[Vulture]

Anyway I am sure they will sell well.

Will be interesting. I for one hope they don't and HSV return to a more refined savagery.

[Excellent]

Forgot to ask if the scoops are functional?

[X BC X]

Will be interesting. I for one hope they don't and HSV return to a more refined savagery.

catch 22, if they dont sell well...do you think they will spend/or will have the cash to spend on an overhaul on the design theme ?

they will probably throw the e1 bumpers back on in time for the new 'F series' :eyes:

as much as people on this forum, and in the general public dislike the e2, they will still sell....(flame suit on) for as much as some hsv owners are refined and have some sort of level of taste, there is another half... boy racer, mid life crisis, fully sick needs the latest and greatest thing kind of guy... that will drool over these changes and lap it up....plus, the fact that the E2 WILL chip away at you slowly, after a few months and seeing a few on the road, opinions will start to change.

personally ? i dont mind the senator at all, and in black...i think alot of the tacky elements will blend in to a degree that can be tolerated, and with time, grow to like.

i do predict alot of owner 'tweaks' that will become a must on these cars (changing of bars, paint and rim mods) much like the e1 senator with owners requesting the matt black detail painted out in the body colour.


well, theres also 1 positive for hsv out of all this, MASS discussion and exposure of their brand over E2....albeit towards the negative, but exposure none the less

bc

[STATIE]

Aww - I sorta like em:hide: - but maybe because I always go for the darker colours anyway - what's the bet that black & that dark green colour sells the best. The Senator is definately the pic of the bunch in either black or dark green.

That baby shit/bronze better look better in the flesh than the photo above though cos jesus:spew:.

[W427GOT1]

I think you meant uncle tones Amex!!:)

Is it just me or does the front remind anyone of a typhoon, especially the GTS. The R8 I could live with but the GTS seems to me that it is a cross between the Typhoon that has been shagged by a W427. Even the exhaust tips look like a ford part.

To me it seems they have cheapend the W427 by blacking out the GTS front with a hideous black that doesnt look like it should taper in. I liked the black front w427, not a real fan of the black on the GTS.

Anyway I am sure they will sell well.

i agree with the above....
looks like a gummy shark with its mouth open too soft looking like the ford..
ive said on another post....dont look too much like ford, cars look too much alike as it is....

Dear HSV
E2 looks 'fine' to me, HSV is Holden, the important thing
smiles

[Curtis-R]

Forgot to ask if the scoops are functional?

No they are not (if you are referring to the ones on the bonnet) i.e they are blocked out.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

HHMMMMM NOT shure :confused: i do like the color and the bonnet but the bar is a bit funney

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/3903207273_db018255d1_b.jpg


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC05140.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC04829-1.jpg

[LJCHSV]

HHMMMMM NOT shure :confused: i do like the color and the bonnet but the bar is a bit funney

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/3903207273_db018255d1_b.jpg


I saw the above car parked in Bay st Port Melbourne this morning.....i got off the Ducati for a closer inspection......Im sorry...i LOVE my HSV's and i've owned a few but im sorry HSV.....i Cant like this at all.....Yes it has just made everyones E1 look outdated.....but that Front is Farken Ugly.....im sorry..but there's nothing 'Horny' about this car at all.....Lets see the race on for thr remaining E1 Maloo's......Once again.....i DO love my HSV's....but this front end is an abomination......and i agree with another poster saying that 'we should'nt have to get used to these new models" GREAT CARS HAVE INSTANT WOW FACTOR!!!! HSV, sorry.....i dont want one...and YES i can afford one...as the bike i pulled up on too checkout this dogs breakfast out....is just as expensive as the car above :soap:

[hyper 8]

Any better pics of the black senator. Im so tempted to sell my wagons and buy one:)

[Ghosn]

Everytime I look at those LEDs, I just get reminded of those girlie mobile phone's with the fake diamond surrounds. :limpy:

[Nidz]

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/3903207273_db018255d1_b.jpg

If I ever going to be tempted to buy a Ute, That would be it..

[bewsa cv8]

was workin out in clayton today and i saw five of the new hsvs in a convoy and i must say, all the sneek peeks and and photos dont do em justice they actualy look real good in the day time and the leds a bright as hell, so dont right em off till you see em in the flesh ... coz i did....:bow:

[jaykay]

was workin out in clayton today and i saw five of the new hsvs in a convoy and i must say, all the sneek peeks and and photos dont do em justice they actualy look real good in the day time and the leds a bright as hell, so dont right em off till you see em in the flesh ... coz i did....:bow:
I said the same thing about the VE SS/SSV when I saw the sneak pics in 2006 of the front end...but when I saw it in front of me I wanted one !!!

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

i have to admit mine looks a bit plain compared the green E2 maloo

[big "d"]

Guys,

EVERYONE HOLD ON A MINUTE.....

I can tell you, as a HSV salesman, that the response from the public has been awesome.

I was a little bit nervous when I first laid eyes on them but the more you look at them you can see what Julian has done to make them a different looking vehicle from the Holden range.

They are going to be good and we are going to have no trouble selling them :goodjob:

No 1 HSV salesman... over & out :burnout:

[Evman]

Guys,

EVERYONE HOLD ON A MINUTE.....

I can tell you, as a HSV salesman, that the response from the public has been awesome.

I was a little bit nervous when I first laid eyes on them but the more you look at them you can see what Julian has done to make them a different looking vehicle from the Holden range.

They are going to be good and we are going to have no trouble selling them :goodjob:

No 1 HSV salesman... over & out :burnout:

Good to hear mate. I'll be more than happy to eat my own words if it means a positive result for HSV :goodjob:

[MARRA]

Did anyone get any photo's of the E2 Cars on Display at Phillip Island? (Left Digi at home)The Senator looked Horn even with the scag on the door after the sign fell on it, still unsure about the GTS - even in the flesh it looked over done. But whoever is in charge of the display cars there didnt do HSV any favours. They werent even detailed, just a half hearted once over.

[jaykay]

No 1 HSV salesman... over & out :burnout:
So where are you now big "d" ??

[Shulkor]

i have to admit mine looks a bit plain compared the green E2 maloo

Nar mate your car looks tops id take that look anyday over the e2.

[big "d"]

So where are you now big "d" ??

I still here Johnny... never left... just kept a low profile for awhile :)

[csv rulz]

HSV E2 Clubby was in Lakes Entrance on the weekend, car looks a million times better in real life than the pics, i like it a lot more than the E1, it looks more up market and less plasticy. as it doesnt have all those chunky black plastic bits.
I think the number plate was something like HSVE2.
CHEERS

[RED R8]

I still here Johnny... never left... just kept a low profile for awhile :)
They look hideous big "d" and I will hang onto my E1 and trade it for something more attractive in a few years..

[jaykay]

I still here Johnny... never left... just kept a low profile for awhile :)
I meant where are you working ?

[Belzey]

They look hideous big "d" and I will hang onto my E1 and trade it for something more attractive in a few years..

I reckon you will change your attitude in a few months Daz :p

[RED R8]

I reckon you will change your attitude in a few months Daz :p

Maybe I need to see one BUT if I end up liking it it would be alot cheaper to buy and install the new front bumper than the 20k changeover for a car with alot less power than mine same interior but different bumpers. I like some of the photoshop pictures getting around of the red clubby minus bonnet scopes and slightly modded front bumper. I think its the rear bumper that looks so wrong.

[iloveholden]

Maybe I need to see one BUT if I end up liking it it would be alot cheaper to buy and install the new front bumper than the 20k changeover for a car with alot less power than mine same interior but different bumpers. I like some of the photoshop pictures getting around of the red clubby minus bonnet scopes and slightly modded front bumper. I think its the rear bumper that looks so wrong.

I wouldnt upgrade yours Red until its more than just a bumper change :)

[mustanger]

Guys,

EVERYONE HOLD ON A MINUTE.....

I can tell you, as a HSV salesman, that the response from the public has been awesome.

I was a little bit nervous when I first laid eyes on them but the more you look at them you can see what Julian has done to make them a different looking vehicle from the Holden range.

They are going to be good and we are going to have no trouble selling them :goodjob:

No 1 HSV salesman... over & out :burnout:

You will have no trouble selling the Five they have built ,but what about the rest of them :jester:

[Uncle Tone]

You will have no trouble selling the Five they have built ,but what about the rest of them :jester:

:lmao: Yeah thats right, they only have built five so far looking at the tally board at the end of the production line :lol:

[miss monaro]

Well I went out on the weekend and bought a R8 in Sting with bi-modal exhaust, get it at the end of October........

[AJAM]

Well I went out on the weekend and bought a R8 in Sting with bi-modal exhaust, get it at the end of October........

Congrats on the new car miss m. Did you trade in your E1 R8? Do you mind me asking how much you got for it? pm if you like.

[miss monaro]

Congrats on the new car miss m. Did you trade in your E1 R8? Do you mind me asking how much you got for it? pm if you like. Still have car at home.....can trade or sell,I have 30 days.....

[Shulkor]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/wonka69/GTSblack.jpg


Still not sure but If it looks this good in person i might need a 2nd car.

[QIKMIK]

Thank you thank you thank you, swingy. My mind is back on track. 3 1/2 years 'til end of lease and the Senator will be in the shed.This statement was made in jest and is being officially retracted. I saw a black E2 Senator at one of Canberra's HSV dealers this morning and I can tell you that I won't be buying one. My first thought was TRD Aurion.... Even the darker colour cannot hide the abomination that is the E2 rear end. Front looks real Camry too. Not keen on the stock mags..very VX Senator. Fellow member VTSS38S pointed out how VXSSy the front bar was.

Apparently the opinions of Australia's most popular automotive website (this one) count for nothing as "he's got 42 orders" and "half of them own Falcons and Corollas anyway".

Spoke to my leasing company this morning and I can get any car as long as it is less than 8 years old at the end of the lease. Looks like I'll be getting an E1 Senator on a shorter lease!

Mick :soap:

[Goggles]

I saw a black E2 Senator at one of Canberra's HSV dealers this morning

not hard to guess which one!!


Apparently the opinions of Australia's most popular automotive website (this one) count for nothing as "he's got 42 orders" and "half of them own Falcons and Corollas anyway".

yeah I really see a corolla driver jumping straight into a HSV, no wonder this dealer didn't get an opportunity to supply me with a new VE SSV.

[Marcus G]

I was initially not impressed by the designs, but they have grown on me a lot. I think I still prefer the original VE, but not by too much. Looking forward to seeing one in the metal.:)
I think the main thing I dont like about them is the Pontiac bonnet scoops. Also not a fan of the strange things at the bottom corners of the back end.
Id be interested to see if HSV would allow you to order a car without the holes in the bonnet, as even that little change makes the car far more appealing to me. Jumped onto photoshop and had a little tweak around with some images (original pictures were from http://www.themotorreport.com.au/44022/2010-hsv-e-series-2-first-drive-review-clubsport-r8/)
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR86.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR87.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR811.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR815.jpg
http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR814.jpg

[UTESRULE]

once there out for a few months and u see a few around im sure it will grow on a lot of ppl

[The-V8-Power]

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t300/IAMTHELLAMA/HSVE2ClubsportR815.jpg


Now that is :bow::bow:
If only that was an option, it looks so much cleaner.
:goodjob: mate.

[Ghosn]

As I have said before, the front of the E2 had so much potential to look god damn sexy! The LEDs are the main culprit in ruining an otherwise nice looking front bumper. They should have never been implemented. It seems from the start the HSV designers had stuck in their head the idea of trying to imitate their european counterparts with the LEDs and just ended up getting it badly wrong. The LEDs are poorly executed and just look like an after thought.

And the rear ... well we all know how much of a FAIL that was.

[Tecca]

I like the look of the front...but the rear is a HUGE messup!!!:spew:. Those exhaust tips are so bloody ugly with that crap plastic surounding lol. And i don't like how the Clubsport badges are on the door:confused: they should of left it on the bottom.

[R8tourer]

I saw one in person at heartland holden, penrith. Red. It's okay, doesn't look any better in the flesh to me though, the black strips and LED strips look a little cheapo in person.

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

was down at the adalaid plant yesterday and they were sending truck loads of them to hsv (i guess) as they had yellow wheels and a differant bottom bar and no spoilers
all so saw some LE ssv with G8 front took some pics but securety chased us but will post up when i get home

[gladrock]

oooooo! Good work!

Vert exciting! Did you get a photo of security chasing you....lol

Cant wait to see the photos

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

these HSVs look like they get the G8 bonnet and bottom bar to go out of the yard with and then get the grill and hsv bottom bar and badging ect at Clayton they do have the hsv seats in them though
they look preaty ordinary like that dont they??


http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07423.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07421.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07417.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07425.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07408.jpg

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07414.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07405.jpg
http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07416.jpg

[iloveholden]

I assume Holden also fits the LS3 then?

They look damn ordinary before HSV touches them :lol:

[Marcus G]

Now that is :bow::bow:
If only that was an option, it looks so much cleaner.
:goodjob: mate.

Thanks:)

Those cars look very ordinary before the HSV treatment. :p

[Vulture]

They look damn ordinary before HSV touches them :lol:

They look even worse when HSV are finished with them...:bawl:

[mustanger]

They look even worse when HSV are finished with them...:bawl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl::lmao::lmao:

[moconn20]

they remind me of the old VT's you see with mismatched wreckers body panels.

although a mismatched VE like that would be the ultimate sleeper.

[fastestls7]

hey Scotty, its karma, same as my SS, it looks diff under the flouro lights....

cheers Jake
can anyone tell me what color the wagon is in swingtans pics?
cheers scotty.

[steve_t]

they remind me of the old VT's you see with mismatched wreckers body panels.

although a mismatched VE like that would be the ultimate sleeper.




http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07414.jpg

Yeah, imagine if this had an LS3 + HTV2300 :jester:

[iloveholden]

They look even worse when HSV are finished with them...:bawl:

hahaha ah the E2 :rofl:

[WOMBIE]

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa297/REDMALOOR8/DSC07425.jpg

That has 'sleeper' written all over it :smilesandbanana:

[ATOMIC MALOO R8]

i wounder if HSV give all the front ,rear bars and sill covers back to Holden or they get sold of to holmart or some one ?? Especially for the LE ones

[moconn20]

probably flog them off... they do it with the SSV tailgates off the maloos

[SSThunderute]

Bout the only good thing about this selection of cars are the wheels on the senator.

VZ range of HSVs still have it IMO.

[OMR346]

VZ range of HSVs still have it IMO.I agree 110%. I have never been a big fan of the HSV E series. The E2 just makes me not like them even more.

Ill stick with the good old VZ's

[Shulkor]

What do you guys think of these pics of a black e2 gts on carsales i think wheels are average but the car look pretty good in my option .

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?R=7785681&__sid=12473D28BDA2&__Qpb=true&Cr=8&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&EngineCCFrom=702&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965530% 20702&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=271&silo=1011

[jaykay]

What do you guys think of these pics of a black e2 gts on carsales i think wheels are average but the car look pretty good in my option .

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?R=7785681&__sid=12473D28BDA2&__Qpb=true&Cr=8&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&EngineCCFrom=702&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965530% 20702&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=271&silo=1011
Fark look at the price of that :1peek: and those wheels don't look any better in the flesh either :spew:

[aedeau]

I paid 52k driveaway for my ls3 clubby brand new. Not sure if that gts is worth 40k more ... ouch :1peek:

[GODSMACK]

What do you guys think of these pics of a black e2 gts on carsales i think wheels are average but the car look pretty good in my option .

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/demo/details.aspx?R=7785681&__sid=12473D28BDA2&__Qpb=true&Cr=8&__Ns=pCar_PriceSort_Decimal|1||pCar_RankSort_Int32 |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&EngineCCFrom=702&__N=1216%201247%201282%201252%201246%204294965530% 20702&seot=1&__Nne=15&trecs=271&silo=1011
$93,990 <--- what a joke....

[Maccas]

bugger that way to much plus that grey interior looks :spew:, looks like its straight out of a VN or something

[blackbettyhsv]

hows this I was at my local dealer checking out the new hsv's, & this bloke & his wife cant decide between the senator or the gts.
she wants the senator he wants the gts, bloody tuff hey

[nosman]

$93,990...bloody hell, and then these dealerships have a whinge as they go bust. I know there are plenty of fools out there willing to cough up that sort of money, to but us mob who know the value of a dollar thats just bloody ridiculous.

[miss monaro]

$93,990 <--- what a joke....

Someone made a comment about me paying $85000 for an E2 GTS auto drive away hmm maybe I did get a good deal....get it next week

[Ghosn]

Someone made a comment about me paying $85000 for an E2 GTS auto drive away hmm maybe I did get a good deal....get it next week

Did you option it with the big brake package?

[HORTENSE]

well... if no one likes the look, i'd definitely be interested in bringing in a kit for a g8! certainly an interesting design none the less.

[Gen4 6.2L]

saw a sv gts in black, It had the new lamps on and because the lamps were in the centre of the bar it make the whole car stand out of the crowd.

[fireceptor]

not liking the front....jus my .02

[RED R8]

At least all the tacky plastic bits don't stand out on the black ones..I still agree with most its still ugly and a poor effort by the new Stevie Wonder trained stylists at HSV.

[jai]

What intrigues me about your shots, is that you can distinguish which cars are destined to be a GTS.

I always thought the front fenders were made by HSV, but now I can blame holden for the shoddy alignment of the top and bottom pieces before spotwelding on mine!

Ok, so on a Clubby the "E" vent in the fenders are colour coded, but GTS is raw plastic... but on the fenders from the factory the bottom part of the fender is yet to be painted for the GTS... to hard to apply at Holden?

Im really surprised they bother putting skirts and bumpers on... surely they dont really need em! Waste of labour = greater cost of car! I can appreciate rear lights, all systems have to be tested!

I can see Red Hot interior on one of the red cars... so not even HSV do that!

"Holden Special Vehicles Bumper & Brake Shop... we dress em, we stress em, we stop em."

[Mix 6000]

Dear HSV,

Upon initial judgements I, along with many, possibly most fellow forum members hate what you have done with a once terrific looking model line up. There is much confusion as to why HSV would go so far beyond the realm of decency and build such horrible looking vehicles. The VE model was a major step in the right direction, with huge funding behind it to make it an absolutely terrific car. Yes, you have taken that a step further and included some terrific new features on the E2 HSV's, but it seems that you have forgotten the most important rule of all; No one will buy an ugly car. There is nothing visually new about the E2. Every visual update can be traced to vehicles already produced by other manufacturers. I used to be a huge fan of HSV (obviously) but I'm afraid you have disappointed me and I'm sure many other enthusiasts. You would have been better off taking the route Holden took by leaving the aesthetics and concentrating on other upgrades. Yes, it's fair time that a visual update was introduced but change for the sake of change is not going to win you any credit, especially when it's change for the worse. I hope for HSV's sake that we on this forum are being too critical and that the majority of HSV buyers like the upgrades. However, considering that there are many HSV owners on this forum, many of them repeat owners that are equally shocked at the E2 as I am, it does't look promising. I can only hope that there is a decision soon to be made within HSV management that will lead to a visual update package far sooner that originally planned to return HSV to a level aesthetically equal to but preferably beyond that of the E1. Believe me when I say I hope that the photos do the HSV E2 models horrible injustice, because for me at least if they do not, the HSV E2 will be a huge disappointment.

Regrettably,
Evan
GR8 write up Evan....I'm also very dissapointed with the E2....I was very excited when they released the E1, so much so, that I got one of the first VE Maloos released in Sydney. As for getting an E2, I'm afraid when it is time to get rid of the Maloo I will be looking at other options..:bawl:..maybe even paint the VE Maloo in the new gold colour. :goodjob:

[Drumo]

Yeah I'm pretty sure I hate the strip LEDs. But the rest of it is shit hot.

[rgmast]

probably flog them off... they do it with the SSV tailgates off the maloos

I know it was posted a month ago but was reading thru it.

I might be wrong but I have had a SSV ute and got a Maloo and the tail lights look to be the same.