SV6 question

[Azza89]

hi just wondering im on my Green P plates. dont hassle me about it :P. just wondering if i should get the New SV6 around December this year or just wait till next year September and get the new V8 commodore if there is a new one coming out????. and if there is new model coming out can u post a link so i can have a look at it.

thanks for your time

[Lincoln87]

cant go past a V8 pal..
depends how deep your pockets are, for both the car and insurance.


Just check out the Calais to SS insurance difference, spesh if you were going auto. Not too much difference in the car itself.. But for me the difference was $1000 on my premium (VZ 6.0L calais/ss)

[Azza89]

ya that true like i can go up to $ 43000 but ya. Would the V8 be 2 much power for someone who been driving a 4 cylinder around.???

[dmenace]

The SV6 SIDI is no slouch either, you should test drive them both actually.

[Lincoln87]

if your feeling responsible the V8 should be fine. You would much regrett it later if you got a 6.

[Azza89]

well the thing is im only 3rd year apprentice dont feel like spending 40% of my wage on buying a car. and ya its just V8 have huge amount power which ya if used responsibly is fine. but still its abit much power going from barina to SS....
is there anything bad about the SV6 has there been many problems with them???

[Lincoln87]

if your worried about spending soo much money, and too much power.
maybe try a VZ SV6. 2nd hand alot cheaper. cheaper on petrol. less power.

then later on once you finish the aprenticeship get abit more exp driving and what not, go for the latest model SS??

[redvxr8clubby]

I would check insuarance prices, if your happy with the insurance difference, and can afford the extra cost of the car itself, I would go the V8, of course there is extra fuel as well (as much as 3 litres ($4.00 at todays price) per 100 km's, and maintenance slightly higher. I think when you are cruising the highway it will be less than 3 litres per 100 Km differerence. I think if you are really thinking of a V8, that you will kick yourself that you spent say $40K on a new SV6, but really wanted a V8. As dmenace said, the new SIDI SV6 sounds like a good thing and not a bad substitute if you a bit apprehensive about going for the eight. I would read up on any road tests of the SIDI SV6 that you can find.

[alpha1]

Apprentice buying a 40K plus car :confused:... ive seen quite a few young blokes especially on these forums driving cars worth some serious coin, its got me buggered how they do it. I will always take my hat off to anyone who works and saves the bucks to buy something they have always wanted.

I remember when i was an apprentice a 10-15k car even as a 4th year was going great guns so is it that young people these days simply cant afford property so they end up loading themselves up with car loans and tip all their money into cars?...or is it that credit is too easy to get?

Anyway good on you if you can honestly afford an awesome set of wheels at such a young age, but it really does have me stuffed how young blokes in their teens and twenties can seriously afford new cars like the SS range and HSV,s then on top of the new car afford the mods, personalised plates and insurance to go with it.

I hope its not this Y generation thing of wanting now no matter what the cost...LOL my neighbour has 4 kids in the range of 18-25 that all still live at home and still survive off mum and dad.. however they all drive nice cars ROFL. :rolleyes:

To answer you question take them for a test drive, you will know very quickly what you prefer...cars are very much a very personal decision and taste so at the end of the day its what ever floats your boat.

Cheers

Adam

[Azza89]

like alpha1 said i dont want to load my self with a car loan that why i was thinking going the SV6 for 3 to 4 year finish my apprenticeship play with the sv6 then when i know i can afford it with killing myself with working for a car then buy it....... just really wanted know if the SV6 is good for its price tag because im trading in my 07 model barina for it...... so if u guys have any experience or any links that talk about the SV6 stuff would like to read up on the car because i dive myself into a car loan. i dont want car that doesn't preforme for its price tag

[alpha1]

Hi Azza, if your are head strong and need a new car then an SS in a M6 would probably be the best bang for your buck.... dont quote me on this but i think you can get drive way in a SS M6 for about $38k.

A SV6 is something in the order of low - mid 30,s comparing apples for apples the SS wins hands down, especially on performance and resale.

The V8 Manuals will depreciate but not as heavily as the 6 cylider will, so basically that extra few grand extra you pay now for the V8 you will pick that up plus some on the flip side when selling compared to the 6 cylinder.

This is just my take mate, im sure their are plenty that would disagree.

All the best

Adam:)

[Azza89]

thanks for ur imput adam im taking everything u guys are saying so i can make my decision all this is helping if u have anymore say about this issue between the sv6 and the SS plz post more :) so i have better idea of everything

[dmenace]

Well you should tell us what your budget is (with insurance).

Maybe we can then give you a better idea.

[zeeute]

I wouldn't bother wasting your money on an SV6, you may as well go all out and get the V8 mate.

[kpop]

I wouldn't bother wasting your money on an SV6, you may as well go all out and get a house mate.

quoted and corrected :)

[Big_Valven]

Personally you could find going to a V8 from a barina could get you in trouble... it only takes a little bit of over-zealous throttle or something, a V6 is still spritely and less likely to kill you.
Plus it's a lot less cost while you're on an apprenticeship, also considering rego and insurance, then when you're on full wages you can go for gold with the V8, wheels, mods, anything you like :D

[CLUBRED]

Doesn't matter what car you drive, you could still do stupid stuff in the Barina, maybe not just as spectacularly... FWD to RWD is a learning curve for some people.

Buy what you want, respsonsibility is in your hands, but I wouldn't step into a V8 from a 4 at your age - just 1 little slip up and insurance co's and or cops will like to take you from behind without vass....

[Carby]

Well we have a VE SV6 and it is a joy to drive!

Feels much lighter than the V8 and has great balance. With the 6 speed manual it is 2.3 litre /100km more economical than the V8 which may be a cost consideration for an apprentice. The power is good but nothing like a V8of course. Only complaint about the car is that in 6 gear on any thing that resembles a hill you have to change into 5 th gear - 6 th is too highly geared!

[benniemc]

is there anything bad about the SV6 has there been many problems with them???

I went from a VK 202 to a VY SS on my P's.

If you keep your right foot in check, they can be a pretty tame car to drive actually!

Get a bit over zealous with the loud pedal and you soon learn the hard way what an LS* V8 and an LSD is capable of! I did! :)

The main issue you may have is going from a really small car to a tank!

[Azza89]

well with insurance and everything im looking around $35000 to $40000 with trading in my 07 Barina

[macca_779]

As an apprentice honestly you would be stupid to buy a new car. Sure you may be able to afford it. But that's about all you'll be able to afford. Obviously your young so insurance will rape you and if anything goes wrong with it you may not be able to afford to fix it. If you want a V8, that's fine. But get something older like a VS SS or Calais. You'll be able to pick it up for under 10k and it will serve you fine till you can properly afford a more modern one. Plus the changeover dollars when you decide to upgrade will mean you losse less cash as the older car wont loose 50% of its value in 5 years.

[jasper361]

That's agreat advice from macca above, I love cars, but they burn a big hole in your pocket like nothing else, My advise for a younger feller would be to take the smallest loan possible and keep saving in between. This way you can gradually work towards your ideal car.

My 2C annyway, good luck either way!

[redvxr8clubby]

That's agreat advice from macca above, I love cars, but they burn a big hole in your pocket like nothing else, My advise for a younger feller would be to take the smallest loan possible and keep saving in between. This way you can gradually work towards your ideal car.

My 2C annyway, good luck either way!

Yeah $40K is a lot to spend on a car (huge for a 3rd year apprentice), especially when it's not a business lease/ tax deduction. I think most people buying $40K cars there is often business use. Commodores depreciate pretty quickly - it's generally said that trade in value 50% depreciation in 3 years, so for a private buyer it makes a lot of sense to get a used car a few years old, preferably one with a good service history and lowish Km's. A late VZ makes much more economic sense than a new VE, but it is nice to have a new car.

[alpha1]

Stick with the Barina, cheap to run, cheap to insure, reliable and its already lost a stack of money being nearly 3 years old. Always nice to be the envy of your mates and drive the best wheels but honestly come 18 months youll be looking for something else anyway.:eyes:

Azz stroke your wallet and not your ego mate, the latest commodore is going to cost you big time..... take that 40k loan and buy bank shares, in 3 years time you would have made a whole stack of cash instead of loosing it.:xmas:

Like Red said most people who run around in these machines write them off through their business, you being a tradie im sure you can run your own little business one day and do the same, untill then my advise is to either stick with what you have or like the guys before said buy something thats already been belted with depreciation.

Good luck anyway


Adam

[planetdavo]

Pleasing to see some good logical input, rather than wall to wall "ur a p00f if you buy a girls car V6" input.
Save your money for a bit longer. Cars come and go. There'll always be a new model to follow soon enough, when you are in a better position financially to truely afford it.

[Excellent]

Pleasing to see some good logical input, rather than wall to wall "ur a p00f if you buy a girls car V6" input.
Save your money for a bit longer. Cars come and go. There'll always be a new model to follow soon enough, when you are in a better position financially to truely afford it.

Well said and good advice. :)

[Azza89]

thanks for all the advice with all this which all makes sense. still decideing on whether im getting it or not. still not sure with all this

[Marco]

FWIW, I agree with everyone who suggested buy a house, invest the money or get a cheaper car for the moment. When I was in my teens I was jealous of the guys who had new cars while I slummed it in my Gemini - but in hindsight, they were loaded up with debt and I had none. I know what's worked out better 10 years down the track...

[CLUBRED]

Also remember if you're up to the neck in debt, that car is probably worth less than what you owe, so if something ever happens selling the car to clear the debt just won't happen for a good while - no car + money owing isn't fun.

[`redoctober]

Buy a used car, don't be an idiot about it.

An '06 VE will save you a lot of coin and you won't have to worry about the "new" model with 3.5 new enhancements that will make you go "oh.... that's all?" when you get in it.

[kpop]

FWIW, I agree with everyone who suggested buy a house, invest the money or get a cheaper car for the moment. When I was in my teens I was jealous of the guys who had new cars while I slummed it in my Gemini - but in hindsight, they were loaded up with debt and I had none. I know what's worked out better 10 years down the track...

yeh but you forget, the guys young and all his mate probably have fly cars, so he has to keep up

been there done that, you live and learn. hopefully he doesnt have to learn the hard way