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BLACK 346
29-09-2009, 08:20 AM
http://www.news.com.au/business/money/story/0,28323,26137357-5017313,00.html

GODSMACK
29-09-2009, 08:43 AM
And there aint a thing the Gov, ACCC nor anyone can do about it... It sux.

Jarhead
29-09-2009, 08:52 AM
Funny how 10 years ago when premium unleaded was "optional" for most cars, the price difference was 6 - 8c / litre. Now that demand has forced people to buy premium the price differential has doubled :vpo:

GODSMACK
29-09-2009, 08:59 AM
Funny how 10 years ago when premium unleaded was "optional" for most cars, the price difference was 6 - 8c / litre. Now that demand has forced people to buy premium the price differential has doubled :vpo:

True, once upon a time, Premium (98 Ron) was always about 8cpl more than regular unleaded. Like you said, now that more cars are manufactured with preference to running on 98 RON, the margin has jumped significantly...

Im not complaining about the price of fuel, but i would like to pay whats fair...

VendeTTR
29-09-2009, 10:01 AM
BP ultimate 16cpl more than regular 91 at Port Wakiefield on the weekend. couldnt believe it.. :confused:

moconn20
29-09-2009, 01:31 PM
BP ultimate 16cpl more than regular 91 at Port Wakiefield on the weekend. couldnt believe it.. :confused:

Thats nothing...
Its anywhere between 15cpl and 25cpl higher at Warners Bay BP

BLACK 346
29-09-2009, 01:33 PM
Thats nothing...
Its anywhere between 15cpl and 25cpl higher at Warners Bay BP

At that price difference you would nearly be better off buying
octane booster and tell them to stick it up their arse.

VX2VESS
29-09-2009, 01:53 PM
scammers they are

Peter B - CV8
29-09-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't mind paying a bit more for premium - say 10cpl. Anything more than that is just greediness IMHO.

benniemc
29-09-2009, 01:58 PM
The only 98RON fuel we get in tas is Liberty E10 98, and BP Ulti....

Ulti is on average 145-149 depending on the time of the week. :(

bladerunner
29-09-2009, 02:18 PM
when we lost the fuel subsidy in qld the av price difference went from 12-13cpl to 16 cpl overnight and has been there since, i had a whinge to the accc and was told basicly they (the oil companies) can charge what they like, i ? the point of the accc's worth and was told "we can only prosecute if we find evidence of collusion". they are a toothless tiger IMO. the petrol commisioner as he's called is as usefull as a broken fuel gauge, the gummint wont do anything because of the gst they get, now im hearing in the news that petrol should drop back to a $1 shortly, beleive it when i see it! even then you can bet your arse the oil mobs will devise yet another selling strategy to keep it inflated slightly more than usual when ever the media gets wind of a price drop, so that way it wont make it down to that magical $1 mark if at all. BTW this has been something ive observed over the last few years,some might have a different view but thats mine, i dont think of it as a conspiracy theory, its just what ive noticed, particularly since the "cycle" system became widespread. those of us who are old enough to remember - during the 70's and 80"s and even early 90's will tell you that once it only went up 2-3cpl and never stayed there too long. now they have conditioned the public into paying stupid money for our fuel and thats just how they like it, next thing will be the end of the independants completely, they already buy their fuel from them thanks to a legislation change made by pm. howard back in 96, before that a lot of the independants brought in petrol from o/s and there was more competition. "shop around" we are told, what the f#ck for! thats just a cop out.and yes ive noticed that the premo price gap is mostly judged against e10 fuel but thats not a valid reason for them to get away with it IMO.

VX2VESS
29-09-2009, 02:32 PM
i know we need Virgin petrol stations to fix these twits up, stop the collaboration and secret fixing, overcharging

moconn20
29-09-2009, 04:29 PM
At that price difference you would nearly be better off buying
octane booster and tell them to stick it up their arse.

I pretty much did, i walked in, politely informed them that 25cpl extra is absolutely ridiculous and the BP 10km away has a constant 13cpl difference, and i would be taking my business there instead.

350VZ
29-09-2009, 05:21 PM
I usually find Ultimate 98 and Vortex 98 are about 14 cpl more then regular unleaded where ever I go. Why do they charge so much?? Because they can. :bawl:

Groboz
29-09-2009, 07:29 PM
You Mexicans have nothing to complain about. I went to fill up on BP Ultimate in Darwin for a track day last month and the difference, I $hit you not, between 91 & 98 RON was 40 cents a litre :flipoff: As a result my tune was based on 95 RON (only 18 cents more).

BLACK 346
29-09-2009, 07:36 PM
You Mexicans have nothing to complain about. I went to fill up on BP Ultimate in Darwin for a track day last month and the difference, I $hit you not, between 91 & 98 RON was 40 cents a litre :flipoff: As a result my tune was based on 95 RON (only 18 cents more).

How much was the 98? My dearest tank of petrol to this day was
whilst living in the NT, and that was over 3 years ago now.

Groboz
30-09-2009, 07:57 PM
How much was the 98? My dearest tank of petrol to this day was
whilst living in the NT, and that was over 3 years ago now.

98 RON - $1.68

91 RON - $1.28 at the time (about 6 weeks ago).

1000kw
30-09-2009, 08:06 PM
BP 13cpl difference in melbourne today....40 is near criminal! Id be getting tuned for E10 and drop a few ponies.

Clubby317
30-09-2009, 08:32 PM
The fuel commission here in australia is being paid $300,000 a year to make sure us average aussies dont get ripped off. Getting driven around in his government vehicle with petrol card and all the other lerks and perks those pricks get. Ye he's doin a great job... NOT:flipoff:

COSMOS
30-09-2009, 08:57 PM
e10 at BP 112.9c versus BP Ultimate 98 at 132.9c - I went e10 today. 10c is okay, hell 13c is a stretch but 20c is a rort. $12 - $14 dollars per tank. I can put octane booster in or just fill slightly more often. Say i get 10% further with U98 thats only an extra 12c per litre more.

max350
30-09-2009, 10:22 PM
BP at North Richmond tonight is 106.7 for 91, 122.9 for 95 and 132.9 for 98.
26cpl extra for 98 they can jam it. Filled up with 95 and will put up with lesser performance.

V-Car
01-10-2009, 08:40 AM
Not 98, but another example of how we are quietly being scammed.

Australian LS1 and Holden Forums - View Single Post - OzGarage Ep10 - The Fuel Test (http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=1598011&postcount=9)

VX2VESS
01-10-2009, 09:58 AM
had to get some at a mobil tues ulp was 1.07 pulp was 1.24 doh maybe i should just run on ulp after all i hardly ever push it anymore.

SS Enforcer
01-10-2009, 11:38 AM
Not 98, but another example of how we are quietly being scammed.

http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=1598011&postcount=9

The base 91 fuel hasn't changed at all it's just marketing they didn't use a 87 ron fuel. There is 0 tax on the ethanol so they make $$ by adding the ethanol to the fuel.
There is no difference between e10 91ron and e10 95 remember the 91 is a minimum rating.

cheers

V-Car
01-10-2009, 01:56 PM
My local BP today:
Unleaded (91RON E10) = 126c
Ultimate 98 = 142c

United:
E10 (95RON) = 109c
Boost 98 = 115c

BP and others might be marketed as 91 minimum, maybe higher, probably closer to 91 though.
United at 95 minimum but could be higher, and 17c/lt less, not to mention Ultimate 98 @ 142 or Boost 98 @ 115!

No brainer really.

Bennyg-unit
01-10-2009, 05:56 PM
Just filled up with premium here in perth and i got it for 1.35 i think that was 13c a litre more. i used to get it at around 9c a litre more.... creeping up yes..

SS Enforcer
02-10-2009, 04:00 AM
My local BP today:
Unleaded (91RON E10) = 126c
Ultimate 98 = 142c

United:
E10 (95RON) = 109c
Boost 98 = 115c

BP and others might be marketed as 91 minimum, maybe higher, probably closer to 91 though.
United at 95 minimum but could be higher, and 17c/lt less, not to mention Ultimate 98 @ 142 or Boost 98 @ 115!

No brainer really.

It's all the same fuel and comes out of the same tank and e10 is all the same as well the advertising of 95ron is just marketing and is the same as e10 91 ron. E10 no mater what you want to believe is just 91 blended with 10% ethanol which then boosts it's octane rating to 95 . United arn't fussy they source their fuel from which ever major gives them the best price that month.
The price difference would be due to United not bumping their price just yet and I bet they have today.

cheers

SJA
02-10-2009, 07:14 AM
Filled up at Geelong BP yesterday,
91=$1.28
98=$1.41

WLDLS1
02-10-2009, 07:43 AM
hoppers crossing shell hogans cnr. optimax 1.34. 98.

united fuels old geelong rd hoppers crossing. 100 octane. 1.28.

Hos
05-01-2011, 04:27 PM
Thread dig i know....

BP where i live todays prices.

91 RON $1.359 / litre
95 RON $1.459 / litre
98 RON $1.499 / litre

Woolworths

91 Ron $1.219 / litre (less 8cent/litre discount = $1.139)

As i am starting to look into an OTR/Tune/Catback for my wagon i am trying to justify tuning it to 98 RON, but for the price it'll cost for fuel i cant see the point (around $20-25 more per tank) maybe 95RON tune will be the go.

i have been told and read in numerous places that 91 is no good. cant see it being that bad if the manufacturers reckon its ok.

at the end of the day its a personal preference thing.

what do people pay in the capital cities for 91, 95 and 98 RON?

OMR346
05-01-2011, 04:42 PM
I filed up about an hour ago at the BP on MT Lindsay highway at Browns Plains (Brisbane southside). I paid $1.39, from memory, for BP Ulitmate. It was .16c more then 91ron, as it always is around here.

aedeau
05-01-2011, 04:45 PM
Filled up on Sunday in Brisbane at caltex/woolworths, was $1.39 for vortex 98, with the 8cent voucher $1.31. Found the low day is now a Sunday in Brisbane. I ended up saving $4.50 on my 3/4 empty tank (70ish ltrs).

SAMCRO
05-01-2011, 09:59 PM
haha Went to Apollo Bay over Xmas, Shell 98RON @ !.65/L Around 30C more then in Melbourne on the same day!!! This is not a rip off, it's a bl..dy robbery!!!:vpo::vpo::vpo::vpo:

G4RS_GM
06-01-2011, 12:03 AM
Filled up yesterday with , united premium-100, $1.37
united e10-95ron, $1.21

10c per litre more for premium, like it used to be was fine, but now they're doubling it or more in some cases. Comes down to greedy oil companies, and the government are in on it too. Its 1 MASSIVE scam.

I'm looking at gettin the senator tuned for E85 soon..best of both worlds IMO. Yeah it'll use a bit more, but at $1 a ltr...it'll be worth it, and have more power too! :)

RARASV8
06-01-2011, 07:43 AM
when 91 fuels were $0.90/litre and we paid $0.99/litre for 98 fuels it was 10% higher, so if 91 is now $1.25 + 10% = $1.375 which equals $0.125 more.
and as i get around the 10% better power & economy by using 98 fuel i don't see a problem.

Garry

p.s a full tank sometimes lasts me 3 weeks:1peek:

aedeau
06-01-2011, 07:49 AM
haha Went to Apollo Bay over Xmas, Shell 98RON @ !.65/L Around 30C more then in Melbourne on the same day!!! This is not a rip off, it's a bl..dy robbery!!!:vpo::vpo::vpo::vpo:

nah... but according to the news, the operators only make like 5 cents per tank of petrol sold...

ERRR yeah right... I fail to see how petrol they buy one day at say $1.30, can be sold the next day for say $1.45. It's still the same petrol in the tanks, but now it's magically worth 15 cents/Ltr more? Fair enough if they end up buying it at a higher price, but it's stupid that it jumps 15-20 cents in 1 day, but is still the same physical petrol in the tanks as the day before.

aratic
06-01-2011, 08:13 AM
Yeah I agree with last post, I find it hard to believe when they can fluctuate the price up to 15c from one day to the next. I doubt very much they would sell it for a loss even if it meant getting people in thru the store, which they claim they make all their money from through sales of food and drink

saaz
06-01-2011, 11:50 AM
A fair part of the price of petrol is excise, which has no relationship with the actual cost of production of fuels. Set percentage margins between different grades of petrol should is not quite right, as would set $ margins not be quite right.