View Full Version : No surprise - Proton and some other ute = death trap
Evman
29-09-2009, 10:04 PM
While I certainly don't agree with a lot of ANCAP tests, they can highlight severe flaws. Like this;
http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/28/JumbuckCrashTes1_01_600_700.jpg
http://images.drive.com.au/drive_images/Editorial/2009/09/28/JumbuckCrashTes1_02_600_700.jpg
I have to say, I'd expected no less.
Here's the article (http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=66020&IsPgd=0)
shel86
29-09-2009, 10:13 PM
Thats a farkin poor effort.. cheap shit i say
Evman
29-09-2009, 10:25 PM
Built to a price, not a standard ;)
255-LS1
29-09-2009, 10:40 PM
puts the "ute" to shame that thing. absolute POS waste of time
vecommo
29-09-2009, 11:02 PM
That is truly pathetic. Anybody who buys one of these must have a death wish.
“Obviously we’re a company that takes safety very seriously” (Proton Cars Australia managing director John Startari)
Yeah right, who are you trying to kid...
iloveholden
30-09-2009, 01:39 AM
This doesnt surprise me at all...why would one buy these if beyond me.
planetdavo
30-09-2009, 06:43 AM
In many ways yet another media beat up.
The vehicle is on runout, so what's the point of the test, other than a way to attract attention?
For it's price, how does it compare to used commercial vehicles?
Most used Jap utes of similar money from several years ago are similarly sh!thouse in crashes as well.
Since this vehicle is based on the CC Lancer of around 1995, it's results are of no surprise. Anyone's (usually) daughters driving around in that model Lancer shouldn't be throwing stones at glasshouses I'd suggest...
Ellistwo
30-09-2009, 08:08 AM
I love my Jumbuck. It's like a placid dog with chewed ears and a arthritic hind leg. Cheap as chips to run, great for garden rubbish, can park in city loading zones, absolutely gutless.
benniemc
30-09-2009, 09:36 AM
I love my Jumbuck. It's like a placid dog with chewed ears and a arthritic hind leg. Cheap as chips to run, great for garden rubbish, can park in city loading zones, absolutely gutless.
My mum has one too, she loves it. :bawl:
I almost had her buying a VU R8 Maloo, but didn't want the fuel bill.
The_Plague
30-09-2009, 11:07 AM
No air bags?
I didn't think that would be possible in these modern times!
Ellistwo
30-09-2009, 11:11 AM
Ours has all the fruit on it: polished nudge bar with pole carriers, tri bar and rear bar, really fat alloys that rub on full lock, Rhino liner, tonneau, lowered and worked suspension, big sound system.
I'm looking to raise the fuel pressure, whacking on a bigger throttle body and exhaust, plus sound matting to the cabin.
Plague, yes they have dirver's bag
Phonic
30-09-2009, 12:34 PM
Being based on the Lacer...a nice evo engine transplant should be relativlly easy then :)
zorro
30-09-2009, 01:55 PM
Being based on the Lacer...a nice evo engine transplant should be relativlly easy then :)
Im sure there is one getting around on an evo 3/4 chassis, not sure if its a qld or nsw car.
exwrx
30-09-2009, 05:42 PM
In many ways yet another media beat up.
The vehicle is on runout, so what's the point of the test, other than a way to attract attention?
For it's price, how does it compare to used commercial vehicles?
Most used Jap utes of similar money from several years ago are similarly sh!thouse in crashes as well.
Since this vehicle is based on the CC Lancer of around 1995, it's results are of no surprise. Anyone's (usually) daughters driving around in that model Lancer shouldn't be throwing stones at glasshouses I'd suggest...
Its far from a beat up. The point is that they are still being sold in the new car market, and buyers have a right to this information when comparing it with its competitors.
ANCAP is far from perfect, but IMO it applies pressure on manufacturers to lift their game on safety. I can't see how that could be a bad thing.
2 star result for GWM with a newer design speaks volumes as well.
vecommo
30-09-2009, 06:00 PM
It seems the only reason the Great Wall utes scored a two star rating rather than one star is because ancap didn't perform a side impact test, instead giving it full marks for side impact by default. Had the side impact test been done, I suspect the Great Wall utes would've had a one star rating too.
http://www.howsafeisyourcar.com.au/_scripts/ancap_detail.php?IID=2983
planetdavo
30-09-2009, 07:33 PM
Its far from a beat up. The point is that they are still being sold in the new car market, and buyers have a right to this information when comparing it with its competitors.
ANCAP is far from perfect, but IMO it applies pressure on manufacturers to lift their game on safety. I can't see how that could be a bad thing.
2 star result for GWM with a newer design speaks volumes as well.
For the 5 remaining cars in the country...
I doubt it would matter whether it got zero stars or 5 stars. It's cheap, and that's why people buy them.
PS: A car can get a higher star rating for having a seat belt warning reminder for both seats, which our road laws require anyway.
V6Sucka
30-09-2009, 07:41 PM
Didn't suby have a jumback several years ago as well ?
Ellistwo
30-09-2009, 08:47 PM
Brumby, good little ute
Evman
01-10-2009, 03:57 AM
Brumby, good little ute
Especially when fitted with a WRX driveline ;)
Ellistwo
01-10-2009, 07:34 AM
Remember that vid of bloke with the fullhouse Brumby in the outback?
theVman
01-10-2009, 08:44 AM
Its a very old design so the rating doesn't suprise me. Fair enough it is still being sold on the market so the media does have a right to give it a bit of a beat up. Those that are its target market probably dont care about the rating to be honest nor are they likely to be educated on the potential impacts in regards to their own safety.
I guess the next step forward will be to push for a minimum star rating (say 3) to get all the cheap manufacturers in line - because as I said above a lot of people arent educated and assume a car is a car.
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