VE SV6 vs SS: which is the better handler?

[Excellent]

Which is the better car for handling and which is more 'fun'? :)

[MickmeMate]

Well thats a no brainer:confused:

[SHANESVZSS]

the sv6...:1peek:

[SSV8TE]

What a stupid thread to start.
Just clocking up numbers hey?

[Rub]

lol... chode smoker....

[GODSMACK]

Excellent, you never seem to disappoint when it comes to useless posts... Now its a useless thread...

Perhaps, seeing as you drive a Lancer, you should go over to the Mitsubishi forums and start a thread titled "why do people keep asking me if my car belongs to my mum"?

[Excellent]

What a stupid thread to start.
Just clocking up numbers hey?

Are you really 40 years old? Mate have you taken a look at yourself in the mirror lately? Nobody is more stupid than you if your response is any guide. :flipoff:

Some of you would know that the Alloytec is much lighter than the V8. As not everybody can use the full power of a V8 'on the street', not everybody is into outright power! The SV6 has enough power for most.

If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?

[GODSMACK]

Are you really 40 years old? Mate have you taken a look at yourself in the mirror lately? Nobody is more stupid than you if your response is any guide. :flipoff:

Some of you would know that the Alloytec is much lighter than the V8. As not everybody can use the full power of a V8 'on the street', not everybody is into outright power! The SV6 has enough power for most.

If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?

Based on your ability to bitch, probably a Suzuki Cuppacino, a real ladies car....

[Excellent]

Correction, that should read nobody is more stupid than you EXCEPT GODSMACK. :bawl:

[wikky]

Some of you would know that the Alloytec is much lighter than the V8. As not everybody can use the full power of a V8 'on the street', not everybody is into outright power! The SV6 has enough power for most.

If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?

What do you mean by fun? Eye spy, punch buggy, nude twister.......?

Maybe you should have titled your thread more accurately if you're not liking the responses. I'll start counting back from 10, as this thread will probably get closed before I get to 1.

[Excellent]

Based on your ability to bitch, probably a Suzuki Cuppacino, a real ladies car....

You would have to be the BIGGEST DICKHEAD on the internet. FCUK OFF if you don't have anything good to say. :flipoff:

Or just FCUK OFF anyway you 350Z driver.

[SSV8TE]

Are you really 40 years old? Mate have you taken a look at yourself in the mirror lately? Nobody is more stupid than you if your response is any guide. :flipoff:

Some of you would know that the Alloytec is much lighter than the V8. As not everybody can use the full power of a V8 'on the street', not everybody is into outright power! The SV6 has enough power for most.

If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?

I have spoken to you on other threads and i reckon i might start a POLL on Who thinks EXCELLENT is a D@#$head.
Reckon i know the results.
What a waste of time and forum memory you are.
Threads like this crap slows the forum down
Bugger off to ford and hyundai forums.
Ive never seen you post a positive remark yet.
Ohh by the way ive passed 40 yr old kinder and now im nearly in Preppies.
Hope i can finish my schooling before i die of old age:flipoff:

[wikky]

You would have to be the BIGGEST DICKHEAD on the internet. FCUK OFF if you don't have anything good to say. :flipoff:

Or just FCUK OFF anyway you 350Z driver.


Who's being the child now? Mate, you'll get banned the rate you're going, carrying on like a pork chop. Maybe you should take a chill pill.

[Excellent]

What do you mean by fun? Eye spy, punch buggy, nude twister.......?

Maybe you should have titled your thread more accurately if you're not liking the responses. I'll start counting back from 10, as this thread will probably get closed before I get to 1.

It's a legit question. The responses are from those idiots who have attacked me before (unprovoked).

Some people like the balance of the SV6. They say the car is less nose heavy and good to drive.

I thought I asked which is the better handler?

Don't people know what handling means?

[Djbarnstar]

It's a legit question. The responses are from those idiots who have attacked me before (unprovoked).

Some people like the balance of the SV6. They say the car is less nose heavy and good to drive.

I thought I asked which is the better handler?

Don't people know what handling means?

SS has an LSD. The extra weight from the engine is insignificant. Best 5 gorillas you will ever spend over an SV6.

As for handling, the extra drive from the LSD will increase performance.

[gmeup]

there is bugger all difference in the their weight handling would be near identical. The V8 will run rings around the sv6 in anything else, its a pretty no brainer question you asked.

[Excellent]

SS has an LSD. The extra weight from the engine is insignificant. Best 5 gorillas you will ever spend over an SV6.

As for handling, the extra drive from the LSD will increase performance.

That's a great post thanks. :) I thought SV6/SS were almost identical except for engines and wheels/tyres.

Does the LSD make a big difference to grip and handling? I notice some other high powered cars (like the Ford turbos) don't have it. :confused:

[NuffNuff]

I figure the V8 would have bigger brakes, plus the LSD, engine doesnt appear to sit as far foward too? that might help.

good thread this, brightened up my dull lunch

[bigdogdazza]

I may as well chuck in my 2 bobs worth! Doesnt matter which is the "better" handling 6 or 8 because EVERY time I drive past a sv6 the driver is ALWAYS gawking at my ss. This tells me one thing.....They wished they had spent the extra bucks! I sure as hell wouldnt be spending major coin on a v6 any brand.Most enthusiests will go the extra step and modify their ride to some degree and usually one of these will include suspension mods....so doesnt really matter to most either what a stock 6 or 8 goes and handles like, more what the end product will finish out to be. Fuel economy isnt a issue as the 6ltr is a miser if driven sedately and I having owned v8,s and rotary,s for the past 15 od yrs am impressed. Go the 8 you know you want to......if you can handle the beast that is?

[`redoctober]

EVERY time I drive past a sv6 the driver is ALWAYS gawking at my ss.

You're just fantastic.

[Carby]

On tight corners I reckon the SV6 would smack a SS's backside - of course getting out of the corner it would be all SS V8 grunt!

I think the question is quite valid - in comparison to my GTS the SV6 is a better balanced car - no doubt, and even though it has more body roll it feels as though you can toss it around a corner easier than the GTS - that being the case I'd say that the SS would be pretty much similar to the GTS.

In sweeping bends I don't think there is much of a difference.

[CLUBRED]

Stock for stock - I found the SV6 would turn in alot nicer and more responsive steering under heavy braking, but other than that they were pretty much on par, handling wise.

[BECAUZ]

Stock for stock - I found the SV6 would turn in alot nicer and more responsive steering under heavy braking, but other than that they were pretty much on par, handling wise.

I agree with CLUBRED on the responsive steering under heavy braking but coming into a corner i'd have to say the SS comes in alot cleaner and a lot tighter then the SV6.

[Excellent]

I found a review of the SV6 vs SS Utes. I gather the result would be similar for the sedans.




http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/holden-ve-ute-review.htm

The SV6 has a touch more precision in the handling department and when we put it through its paces on some winding coastal roads it exhibited better initial turn-in than the SS, which is most likely due to the fact that there's less weight over the front axle.

Using its V6 to the tune of 195kW, the rear-wheel drive SV6 is a well-balanced sports car that can be highly rewarding when driven with a bit of gusto.

In general however, the points go the way of the SS because it's so effortlessly powerful. It's got a muscle car feel and charges out of corners with the kind of force that pushes you into your seat very firmly.

My first impression after steering the Holden SS Ute through an initial 25 kilometres section of twists and turns was that it wasn't quite as poised as the SV6 and drank far more petrol -- but was huge fun nonetheless.

Part of the spontaneous enjoyment you get from driving the SS Ute comes from the sounds it makes. Without doubt this is one of the best sounding Holdens I've ever driven, and Holden's engineers said they made changes to the V8 (compared to the sedan) to provide drivers with a more involving experience. Mission accomplished.

While the brakes in the SS are larger than the stoppers fitted to the SV6 (321mm vs 298mm front discs), they didn't feel as positive. I reckon the brakes are better matched in the SV6 than the SS.

There's not a great deal of feel through the pedal when you request strong response in the SS - it just kind of sinks in and this one one of the SS Ute's few shortcomings.

Another issue with the SS that didn't affect the SV6 Ute was rear end looseness. This could explained by a number of factors. A) the engine has more power than a Russian nuclear sub and B) the weight distribution favours the front end - 53:47.

During high intensity driving the tail end of the SS felt a bit loose and I reckon the ESP threshold is a bit cloying, reigning things in too quickly for my liking.

The ESP is an excellent feature and improves both cars roadholding and safety credentials by a huge margin, while making wet weather driving far more manageable than in the past. But in the dry it tends to inhibit the vehicle's progress when you really turn up the heat.

While the SV6 will rarely spin its rear wheels during hard driving, the SS's prodigious 270kW power charge means it fights a constant battle with the ESP that often gave me the irrits. Turn it off and the rear end feels too flighty thanks to the huge mid-range surge of torque that the 6.0-litre V8 develops.

With ESP turned off, the Holden SS rear end sees more fishtails than a fishmongers offal bucket. There's even touch of flex in the body when you gun the throttle on the V8 SS, which highlights just how much twist the V8 engine exerts on the chassis.

The Holden SS Ute can be driven enthusiastically along twists and turns with ESP switched off, but you have to be ultra smooth with your throttle control. Otherwise the rears light up quicker than you can say "Holy El Camino". If you go all or nothing on the throttle, expect to be wrestling the tiller and replacing your rear tyres every other month.

But as much as I thought the rear end could have used more rubber (HSV Maloo anyone?), the SS is a very entertaining car to drive and demonically quick. I guess it's just that the SS Ute's power delivery is more suited to wide open sweeping corners, while the SV6 thrives on tighter corners, switchbacks and flip-flops.

The rear ends of these vehicles highlight the main differences in how they feel to drive, which are largely governed by their respective power outputs, while the front ends have less difference.

The front suspension setups on both cars are very conducive to sports driving, tipping into bends cleanly, tracking quite nicely through corners with a precise, if light, steering feel.

Ultimately, the rear end is the only part that reminds you you're driving a ute. But hey, what's a ute without a couple of rough edges here and there?

While both the SV6 and SS Holden VE Utes have 6-speed manual gearboxes, they are both quite different in operation. To be blunt, the SS gearchange is heavy and notchy, while the SV6 feels smoother and lighter.

The SV6's transmission is generally very good, except that reverse is tricky to pinpoint at times. I noticed that going from reverse to first gear (roughly in the same spot) sometimes kept snagging reverse.

In practise, I actually liked the heavier gearchange from the SS, but I reckon quite a few people will appreciate the more refined Aisin 6-speed manual connected to the 3.6-litre V6 of the SV6 ute.

Both utes are very cruisey highway vehicles but the SV6 takes the honours in this respect thanks to its more disciplined conduct.

Even though the SS Ute's LS2 V8 engine revs lower in 6th gear when travelling at 100km/h - 1500rpm to be precise - it drinks more petrol per kilometre than the V6. The SV6's engine sits on 1700rpm at 100km/h in 6th gear.

At the end of the day, it turns out there's quite a bit of difference in the way these two sports utes behave. You'd think that being almost identical except for engine type wouldn't have a huge effect on the cars dynamics, but they do.

If you're going to be doing more highway driving and are concerned about how much petrol you pour into your transport I'd suggest talking to your dealer about the SV6. If you want hell-raising tyre-frying power, awesome acceleration, and one of the best sounding Holden's ever built, the SS will be your first port of call.

Overall I personally liked the SS better. It's not perfect and doesn't have the refinement of the SV6's smoother engine and lighter body, but I found myself coming back to the SS more than the SV6.
Engine: SV64/5 SS3.5/5

[bigdogdazza]

You're just fantastic.

LOL Just stating the obvious. I dont see many v8 owners wishing they opted for the 6! LMAO!

[Brandonsdad]

Go for the 6 anyday....












































The 6 Litre that is.

[MitchyVYSS]

Fighting on forums is just about as exciting and appealing as getting aids. cut it out you lot...

[SHANESVZSS]

"If you want hell-raising tyre-frying power, awesome acceleration, and one of the best sounding Holden's ever built, the SS will be your first port of call."


say no more....

[`redoctober]

LOL Just stating the obvious. I dont see many v8 owners wishing they opted for the 6! LMAO!

And I don't see many Audi or BMW owners wishing they bought an SS. But they don't look down their nose at people and scoff about it on public internet forums.

Get some humility up ya.

[marcu5]

Are you really 40 years old?


and?



The SV6 has enough power for most.

For some.. This isn't www.ls1.com.au for some special code sake..



If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?
Any ol' 4cyc lancer would do. Its a speed limited road. Some Pink hubcaps and a skank in it - you can't go wrong "fun fun fun" :jester:

We have V8's to tow stuff with, carry full family in and ultimatly be responsable with. Please don't be another statistic, or create one.

[Excellent]

And I thought this thread had taken a turn for the better.

For crying out loud, if you have nothing good to add, don't post! Even better, just don't read the thread. That's just too hard for some isn't it?

Some of you need to grow up! Or see a doctor, now!

:soap:

[BadSeed]

You would have to be the BIGGEST DICKHEAD on the internet. FCUK OFF if you don't have anything good to say. :flipoff:

Or just FCUK OFF anyway you 350Z driver.


thats some pretty nasty shit you said, i think the majority on this site would rather YOU take your own advice

[KuRT12]

That's a great post thanks. :) I thought SV6/SS were almost identical except for engines and wheels/tyres.

Does the LSD make a big difference to grip and handling? I notice some other high powered cars (like the Ford turbos) don't have it. :confused:

Actually all new Manual Sv6's come with LSD standard.

SV6 is like 50kgs lighter?

Same brakes, wheels etc? so i would probably say stock for stock SV6 slightly, but nothing severe.

[marcu5]

Some of you need to grow up! Or see a doctor, now!
:soap:

I refer you to RFC1855 http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html

Item 3.1.1 and inparticular the forth last bullet point.
"Don't get involved in flame wars. Neither post nor respond to incendiary material. "

Read it, learn it and try not to offend others.
You have been diagnosed.
Dr Marcus.

[kpop]

if you want something that handles good on the twisties, i dunno why you would start off with a large family car ?

i think you would be much better suited to something like a honda integra or something japanese with a turbo

[Spoolin]

Does the LSD make a big difference to grip and handling? I notice some other high powered cars (like the Ford turbos) don't have it. :confused:

In fact you have never noticed that Ford don't have LSD's in their high powered turbo cars, because you have never driven one just whored up some crap forum from little girly driving punks like you! The only 6T unavailable with an LSD is the luxury G6ET.

So seeing you are such a God of all things automotive, what is the weight difference between a 6 & 8? What spring rates do they use?

[vzss05]

This thread is like watching a car crash happen. You know the aftermath isnt going to be good:rofl::rofl::rofl:

[calais190]

Who gives a crap whether a SV6 can corner harder than a SS? At the end of the day, SS is going to be faster even if you can turn a SV6 into a corner harder... And the great ocean road with all it's 60km speed limits, and vicroads' ability to make anything good, shitt, then you have yourself a thread with no relevance.

As for fun, a V8 will probably always win. If you want handling, get yourself a Mitsubishi Evo...

[bigdogdazza]

Yep I agree, evo or even a bike will outhandle em both. But if you want some fun get into a 6ltr. Oh and sorry if I have offended other forum users with my personel tastes being the 8 over the 6! Didnt know being on a public forum meant I couldnt voice MY opinion about a engine option. SERIOUSLY GET THE 8!:goodjob:LOL

[Excellent]

I refer you to RFC1855 http://www.dtcc.edu/cs/rfc1855.html

Item 3.1.1 and inparticular the forth last bullet point.
"Don't get involved in flame wars. Neither post nor respond to incendiary material. "

Read it, learn it and try not to offend others.
You have been diagnosed.
Dr Marcus.

Mate, I just asked a straight forward question. It's the wanks like you who have attacked me without reason.


In fact you have never noticed that Ford don't have LSD's in their high powered turbo cars, because you have never driven one just whored up some crap forum from little girly driving punks like you! The only 6T unavailable with an LSD is the luxury G6ET.

So seeing you are such a God of all things automotive, what is the weight difference between a 6 & 8? What spring rates do they use?

Mate, I don't know what's up your orifice except an inmate.

Go back to Ford forums with all your cerebral challenged mates, you might stay true to yourself.

[BadSeed]

i think you should just stick with what you are driving now

http://a89.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_fc1678bf6364637c7fcc83784eaf7638.jpg

[Excellent]

i think you should just stick with what you are driving now


:rofl: Hilarious.

BadSeed, is that an synonym for 'sterile'?

Location: South East. You must be referring to your brain.

[BadSeed]

http://www.forumammo.com/cpg/albums/Upload/gay/Gay-PinkGuy.jpg

[macca_779]

The SV6 will obviously turn in quicker and be able envoke more lateral g all else being equal. As far as it being more fun. Down the great ocean road an SV6 would be a better rig as the power advantage of the SS won't have enough oportunities to shine.

I'd still have an SS though as I use all my horsepower more often than I reach my lat g limits

BTW Excellent. Get rid of the lancer. It's a bitch car FFS

[Jarhead]

In fact you have never noticed that Ford don't have LSD's in their high powered turbo cars, because you have never driven one just whored up some crap forum from little girly driving punks like you! The only 6T unavailable with an LSD is the luxury G6ET.

So seeing you are such a God of all things automotive, what is the weight difference between a 6 & 8? What spring rates do they use?


For the record - All FPV and XR Falcon are in fact standard with LSD. Interestingly the G6ET isn't but still manages very fast accelleration times.

OT - the SV6 might brake and handle as well as the SS but the comment about having enough power for most people is just not correct. We all know there is no such thing as enough power and the extra 80kw for $5k is enough to make up most peoples' minds. The question about which one is more fun is rhetorical.

[wikky]

:rofl: Hilarious.

BadSeed, is that an synonym for 'sterile'?

Location: South East. You must be referring to your brain.

Excellent, what's with all your little one liner attacks on people? Looking at your posting history, you seem to do this very often. If you hadn't noticed, many comments on this forum are very tongue in cheek and when it comes to threads like this one (as soon as I read your opening post I knew where it was heading, as it has), there's going to be a lot of piss taking.
Dr Michael's remedy for this is one teaspoon daily of HTFU.

[SSV8TE]

Too add fuel here obviously it is not young EXCELLENT that has the problem it is the other 105,000 LS1 forum members that have a problem.
Maybe you should become a mod excellent and ban everyone and just talk to yourself that way you will be the most intelligent one on here.

You talk about grow up and Fuk off statements and Are you 40 yrs old questions and yet you slag everyone who has posted bar a handfull.
No wonder people so called attack you...........
If you start a stupid topic thread expect stupid topic answers.
You dont even own a holden...
What is you motive for these stupid threads?
Controversy i say.........................

[Ellistwo]

I drove a SV6 while on holidays. It did the job quite well, but when it comes to handling the V8 is better IMO.

Lighten up Excellent, the fossils are pushing your buttons and you're playing by their rules. Be proud of that girly car, it's probably better than they drove at your age.

[Knawful]

http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/this-thread-sucks/9/Thread-Crap-Killed_baby_seal.jpg

[GODSMACK]

I drove a SV6 while on holidays. It did the job quite well, but when it comes to handling the V8 is better IMO.

Lighten up Excellent, the fossils are pushing your buttons and you're playing by their rules. Be proud of that girly car, it's probably better than they drove at your age.

Driving a Lancer at 26!! LMFAO (Evo is ok), probably still lives at home too.

[Ellistwo]

Yeah, but 26 is not the 26 of 14 years ago is it? I wish I was 26 again, shopping trolley or not.

[SHANESVZSS]

everyone has their own personal opinion so put the matter to rest and go and test drive both yourself and get your own verdict.. having said that i would go straight to the ss anyday as the 6.0ltr sounds a million times better than the 6 no matter what!

[Excellent]

Driving a Lancer at 26!! LMFAO (Evo is ok), probably still lives at home too.

Try owning your car instead of borrowing or stealing. You might learn a few values in life and you might actually live in your own home if you stop proving to people you are a burden to society.




Too add fuel here obviously it is not young EXCELLENT that has the problem it is the other 105,000 LS1 forum members that have a problem.
Maybe you should become a mod excellent and ban everyone and just talk to yourself that way you will be the most intelligent one on here.

You talk about grow up and Fuk off statements and Are you 40 yrs old questions and yet you slag everyone who has posted bar a handfull.
No wonder people so called attack you...........
If you start a stupid topic thread expect stupid topic answers.
You dont even own a holden...
What is you motive for these stupid threads?
Controversy i say.........................

If ever people wonder why we have problems in society, this thread would be a good place to start. When 31 and 40 year olds behave in a manner unbefitting of their age, is it any wonder people don't take any responsibility for their actions and blame things on their mental state? Psychiatrists out there, please take note. SSV8TE would be a great case study.

[BECAUZ]

If ever people wonder why we have problems in society, this thread would be a good place to start. When 31 and 40 year olds behave in a manner unbefitting of their age, is it any wonder people don't take any responsibility for their actions and blame things on their mental state?

And you are the judge on how people should act depending on their age?
I believe you see the shit side of society coz you are properbly a part of the shit side.
The society alot of people live in, including myself, sure has its bad points but its all made better when we have a 6.0L that brings a smile to our rude faces every time we drive. For a 26 year old you are quite childish. You remind me of my cousins daughter.

Care for some chocolate Excellent?:moon:

[Excellent]

And you are the judge on how people should act depending on their age?
I believe you see the shit side of society coz you are properbly a part of the shit side.
The society alot of people live in, including myself, sure has its bad points but its all made better when we have a 6.0L that brings a smile to our rude faces every time we drive. For a 26 year old you are quite childish. You remind me of my cousins daughter.

Care for some chocolate Excellent?:moon:

When persons on the street act like you, you actually make the evening news.

You should know the difference between posting a simple topic (handling V6 vs V8 HOLDEN) and one which is designed to antagonise. You would also know that people started attacking me in this thread for no reason, until I decided to give my own back.

Yes I know this is ls1.com.au but that doesn't stop people asking questions about Toyota Hiluxs here does it? Do they have to own Holdens, too, to not get attacked?

The pack mentality is alive and well I see. You are just another sheep.

[Marco]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is seats - the SS seats have it all over the SV6 when it comes to holding you in around the corners, with their much bigger side bolsters. IMHO there's not a lot of point having a slightly better balanced car going into the corner if you're going to get thrown around the cabin more while doing it.

[GODSMACK]

Try owning your car instead of borrowing or stealing. You might learn a few values in life and you might actually live in your own home if you stop proving to people you are a burden to society.




If ever people wonder why we have problems in society, this thread would be a good place to start. When 31 and 40 year olds behave in a manner unbefitting of their age, is it any wonder people don't take any responsibility for their actions and blame things on their mental state? Psychiatrists out there, please take note. SSV8TE would be a great case study.

Who's 31???

Now back OT, wouldnt the handling of a V6 v V8 depend on the driver also..

Whos to say person A or B couldnt throw the V8 round a corner better than the V6....

[fishla]

Funny thread :rofl:

Excellent -I've had 2 x VE SV6's (over the last few years) and now have an SS.

I wouldn't say the SS shits over the SV6 in every way, but it is undoubtedly better. You only have to factor in standard options of V8 and LSD to realise it.

Heavy spring rate to hande the extra weight (which isn't much) also keeps it on the road. It also has sports seats to actually keep you in the seats! (edit: nice one Marco - while i was typing this i got called away)

The SV6 could do with an LSD (think the new one's do), but it still doesn't of have the poise of the SS.......and doesn't play MP3's :)

My 2c

Cheers,
Fish

[KuRT12]

The SV6 could do with an LSD (think the new one's do), but it still doesn't of have the poise of the SS.......and doesn't play MP3's :)


All new manual SV6 come standard with LSD, its an option on all autos.

[Excellent]

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is seats - the SS seats have it all over the SV6 when it comes to holding you in around the corners, with their much bigger side bolsters. IMHO there's not a lot of point having a slightly better balanced car going into the corner if you're going to get thrown around the cabin more while doing it.

Marco and fishla, excellent posts thank you! :)

Ellistwo, I know I'm being stirred but I'm stirring back. I might have been angry before ( :flipoff: ) but now just having a laugh to myself (see the one liners).

Anyway, by the sounds of it, the SV6 owner is being short changed compared the the SS from what people here are saying. I'm actually glad I asked the question (even after all the turmoil) as I got opinions here that I couldn't get from reading the reviews. I'll just go back and have a good yarn with my manager.

:goodjob:

[BECAUZ]

When persons on the street act like you, you actually make the evening news.

You should know the difference between posting a simple topic (handling V6 vs V8 HOLDEN) and one which is designed to antagonise. You would also know that people started attacking me in this thread for no reason, until I decided to give my own back.

Yes I know this is ls1.com.au but that doesn't stop people asking questions about Toyota Hiluxs here does it? Do they have to own Holdens, too, to not get attacked?

The pack mentality is alive and well I see. You are just another sheep.

Well you might need to go on some fishing trips to realise that only fish are supposed to bite back.

Personally, with bias involved, i love the ss!

[Excellent]

Well you might need to go on some fishing trips to realise that only fish are supposed to bite back.

Personally, with bias involved, i love the ss!

Yes. Probably.

Welcome to the forum, btw. Nice to know that someone who only joined the forum a couple of weeks ago can offer some solid advice to someone who's been around for much longer. :jester:

[DuffMan]

...Nice to know that someone who only joined the forum a couple of weeks ago can offer some solid advice to someone who's been around for much longer. :jester:

I'm sure once the mods have a look at this thread, you wont be around for much longer :jester: people have been banned for much less than what you've called members in this thread.

I didn't realise that the longer a person is the member of a forum the smarter they become. Guess that makes me smarter than you :)

[wikky]

:rofl: OWNED :rofl:

[berroca]

lol at this whole thread :lmao:

pretty much sums up a lot of LS1 these days, knob jockeys everywhere who drive lancers and start useless threads

the days of helpful people and useful infomation are quickly disappearing

seems to be full of keyboard warriors these days more than anything

no wonder so many peolpe dont bother coming on here anymore

[Knawful]

Yes. Probably.

Welcome to the forum, btw. Nice to know that someone who only joined the forum a couple of weeks ago can offer some solid advice to someone who's been around for much longer. :jester:


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[GODSMACK]

knob jockeys everywhere who drive lancers and start useless
threads


Amen......:)

[DuffMan]

lol at this whole thread :lmao:

pretty much sums up a lot of LS1 these days, knob jockeys everywhere who drive lancers and start useless threads

the days of helpful people and useful infomation are quickly disappearing

seems to be full of keyboard warriors these days more than anything

no wonder so many peolpe dont bother coming on here anymore

Case in point - Use the Report Post function and said 'keyboard warriors' are dealt with accordingly. If someone else had bothered to do this 4 pages back there wouldn't have been a problem.

[Carby]

lol at this whole thread :lmao:

pretty much sums up a lot of LS1 these days, knob jockeys everywhere who drive lancers and start useless threads

the days of helpful people and useful infomation are quickly disappearing

seems to be full of keyboard warriors these days more than anything

no wonder so many peolpe dont bother coming on here anymore

If you think this is a useless thread I reckon there are about 30 others that are worse and thats just in the last month!

At least this is about Holdens!

The thread is OK it's the bickering that has sent it haywire.............

[berroca]

If you think this is a useless thread I reckon there are about 30 others that are worse and thats just in the last month!




you hit the nail on the head mate

thats what i was getting at

[GODSMACK]

Excuse me gents, stay on topic please... :1peek:

[Darkrayne]

Gee's.. and I thought I had it bad looking after two young kids!.. lol.

OT: I have driven both and I love the SSV over the SV6.. Seats keep me in place, fit better around me etc.. though my ssv has lowered springs so... less roll straight up. If I was given ans SV6 id take it but wouldn't buy one with the way the $$ are for an SS over one.

Now.. behave people !

[SSV8TE]

If ever people wonder why we have problems in society, this thread would be a good place to start. When 31 and 40 year olds behave in a manner unbefitting of their age, is it any wonder people don't take any responsibility for their actions and blame things on their mental state? Psychiatrists out there, please take note. SSV8TE would be a great case study.[/QUOTE]

Now Moron,
I believe you are just after a reaction and your attempt at using intelligent words to state your position in society is failing dismally. You constantly attack peoples integrity and opinions on what is so called a freedom of speech forum.
If i say that i think this thread was a waste of forum memory and directory then that was my opinion.
For you to begin attacking everyone who actually agreed with me has done nothing but amuse us forum members.
Your topic is hardly an important information thread but a case of clocking your thread counts up for no purpose.Why in hell would you want to know so much about how a V8 / V6 handle when you have no intention of even owning one.
These holdens are alot of our passionate toys and for all your holden slagging and attacking the makers of these cars constantly i do not understand how or why you are involved with a HOLDEN LS1 forum.
Why not join a Ford forum that you seem to be all into.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT

[BadSeed]

Yes. Probably.

Welcome to the forum, btw. Nice to know that someone who only joined the forum a couple of weeks ago can offer some solid advice to someone who's been around for much longer. :jester:


he could probably offer more useful advice than you,
he actually OWNS one.

[berroca]

lol his account is now suspended :lmao:

[DuffMan]

lol his account is now suspended :lmao:

:deal:


Case in point - Use the Report Post function and said 'keyboard warriors' are dealt with accordingly. If someone else had bothered to do this 4 pages back there wouldn't have been a problem.

Would have been suspended 4 pages back if someone used the Report Post button! Instead, people acted like children...

[Knawful]

....., people acted like children...

Nuuh uhh..do not. :feedtroll:

[kpop]

heres my 0.02c

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[B@1L3Y]

AHahahaha, ahaha. Killing time, been called into work, this thread is hilarious, sometimes it's good to act like children and blow some steam off.

He managed 745 posts before he was banned, that's startling.

Not to beat a dead excellent, i mean horse, i drive an sv6 for a few reasons, cost of ownership, big fat mortgage etc, but yes i'm a car fan.

So whilst i do really appreciate everything the SS is, and will admire them, it does not mean i want to **** you bigdogdazza.

Stating an opinion is one thing, dribbling insecure shit is another.

[Excellent]

I’m back, whoo hoo!

It was hard to suffer in silence, I admit, but it’s good to be back, yeah!

Even though the SV6 has as much performance as the VT LS1 under legal speeds, I think the SV6 is kind of a poverty pack special and the SS the better buy although I’m looking at getting the SSV as there isn’t that much difference in price (novated lease).

Holden have managed to put some really slippery tyres on the SV6 (see Motor’s test) where the SV6 hoses the Falcon XR6 in a straight line but the XR6 murders the SV6 around the track. Given the SS has better seats than the SV6 is enough to swing the balance in favour of the SS.

Thanks to those who bothered to respond with the view to help me with my decision making. I think the key here is that you get what you pay for in the VE. The lower spec models miss out on items available on the more pricey models.

Thanks also to Duffman for saving the country from imminent descent into anarchy. It’s almost infectious how Duffman’s sense of humour overrides his sheer ability to drink beer. How does that song go again?……. “Ahhhhh love to have a beer with Duffman…. Coz Duffman is great.”

I appreciate that some of us I exercised a healthy dose of Tourette's Syndrome throughout the thread but it’s also reassuring to know the moderator who packed my bags and sent me on a two week vacation also managed to step in just before things got really out of hand.

Now back to more sensible discussion and riveting reading of topics like “Toyota Tarago vs Honda Odyssey - Which handles better?”
:jester:
And Peace to All. :)

[DuffMan]

Thanks also to Duffman…. Coz Duffman is great.

Well at least you're willing to admit that. Admitting the truth is the first step to recovery :) Even though calling people names on the internet makes you feel like a big man :cool:

[stu-k]

I’m back, whoo hoo!



Now back to more sensible discussion and riveting reading of topics like “Toyota Tarago vs Honda Odyssey - Which handles better?”
:jester:
And Peace to All. :)

Now that would depend on what year after 1985 the odyssey model really went to crap but the FL was fun!

YouTube - FL350 1985 Honda Odyssey FL 350 FL350R

[Excellent]

Even though calling people names on the internet makes you feel like a big man :cool:

Not really. LOL.

It's called taking the p#$$ out of each other (don't forget, others called me names too). It was fun while it lasted. I think you caught onto the wrong part but I think your contribution was funny as well. Nevermind, it was all fun and games. :jester:

[DuffMan]

Not really. LOL.

It's called taking the p#$$ out of each other (don't forget, others called me names too). It was fun while it lasted. I think you caught onto the wrong part but I think your contribution was funny as well. Nevermind, it was all fun and games. :jester:

Don't get me wrong, I think many of the posts by some members here were silly and uncalled for. However, no one called you a dickhead and told you to fu(k off. That was a little uncalled for... even for this forum :eek:

[Excellent]

Don't get me wrong, I think many of the posts by some members here were silly and uncalled for. However, no one called you a dickhead and told you to fu(k off. That was a little uncalled for... even for this forum :eek:

Correction. One member called me a di###head.... (and more)...... did you come across it by chance or did you just decide to take issue with the guy getting king-hit? Others called me other names (pack mentality is rife on some forums) but it's water off a duck's back and I gave as good as I got because it's the same guys who relish jumping in to offer their 2c.

You say 'fu(k off', others say 'fark off' and the emoticon means exactly the same thing. Semantics really, as they all give the same basic message. I'm sure you would have read worse here as the exchange was far from spiteful.

And the I'm sure the other members didn't report anything because they had a bit of fun too while exchanging some ahhhh 'advice'. Nothing evil, just harmless fun where men acted like boys.

PS: As a matter of interest, did you know that news.com.au has a feature to link news articles to a US site called farkit.com. I kid you not. If you are sensitive to such terms, check out other threads here or please take a look outside and see what's shakin' in the real world.

Peace bruddah! :)

[DAVESS-V]

Unbelievable. Cant get my head around this thread..:feedtroll:

[AndrewR8]

If you think this is a useless thread I reckon there are about 30 others that are worse and thats just in the last month!

At least this is about Holdens!

The thread is OK it's the bickering that has sent it haywire.............

Carby, smartest response here mate, i'm still questioning how Ford posts are the most popular on this forum (usually its just a bitch fight inside). This thread is about a 2 Holden products on a Holden forum and is a question about handling capabilities, so why do people on here find it difficult to answer and go on the war path? If the question was...Would a SV6 handle better than a GTS, than I would have to suggest shutting the thread down...stupid question. But a stock SS and SV6....close call!

If I saw a similar question on AFF>>>Would a XR6 handle better than a XR8, hey guess what....IT WOULD!!! haha. So its a valid question!

Back to the thread, if BOTH cars took a 90 degree corner at 60kmh, the SV6 IMHO would handle the corner a little better, however both would fail the corner but the SV6 I reackon could come into and around the corner a little better. Getting out of the corner is where the LSD would come into play on the SS and evenly get the power to the ground. If they both had LSD's, fair game.

Do you want to know something really scary, my father in law had a XR6 NA stick with his SSV ute through some twisty roads in the Hawkesbury region, stuck up his arse and my father in law can drive!!!! He knew the driver of the XR6 but they had some fun. So don't always write off the 6 cylinders and useless slow junk!

[chook]

Are you really 40 years old? Mate have you taken a look at yourself in the mirror lately? Nobody is more stupid than you if your response is any guide. :flipoff:

Some of you would know that the Alloytec is much lighter than the V8. As not everybody can use the full power of a V8 'on the street', not everybody is into outright power! The SV6 has enough power for most.

If I had to take a car down the Great Ocean Road, which car would I have more fun in?

Excellent if you did your homework first you would see that there is probably only 20kg - 25kg difference in weight. So you the Maths. Bugger all .

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