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V8BEER
18-10-2009, 10:16 AM
I was reading an article in Auto Action the other day and it mentioned something about a possible move, of Greg Murphy to Wilson Security. I didnt read the whole article as I was being a tight arse and reading some of the mag in the newsagent.

Carby650
18-10-2009, 11:38 AM
I was reading an article in Auto Action the other day and it mentioned something about a possible move, of Greg Murphy to Wilson Security. I didnt read the whole article as I was being a tight arse and reading some of the mag in the newsagent.

Yes I have a copy of the mag.
Says the team is tight money wise and as a result will sell their licenses and create a 4 car Fraud team.

cheers
Carby650

V8BEER
18-10-2009, 11:46 AM
They run a car in the Futijisi,s (wrong spelling I know) as well . .?

JT
18-10-2009, 12:16 PM
I will only beleive it when I see it

SINISTER R8
18-10-2009, 12:17 PM
so does this mean that Murphy will be driving a Ford soon? Cos thats not going to go down too well, and he seems to be a Holden fan and not likely to shift.

rapidvl
18-10-2009, 12:40 PM
I like murphy. i was hoping he won bathurst . hope he dont move.

Spider
18-10-2009, 01:33 PM
Sad news.

I like Murph too,he's alright.

steve_t
18-10-2009, 01:47 PM
WHAT?? He's a die-hard Holden man and a Kiwi (Holden country). I'll also wait for it to be made official before I believe it... and even then I don't think I will :confused:

Micks
18-10-2009, 02:46 PM
Not a bad rooster for a Kiwi :rofl:, hope he stays with the Reds.

Cheers
VYT

Scud
18-10-2009, 02:54 PM
Hmmm, don't like the sound of this, hoping that it's a media beat up!!

I personally think Murph has too much invested in the Holden Franchise. He is a big player in the Fujitsu series with Greg Murphy Racing.

I can't see him jumping ship.

TR33VV
18-10-2009, 03:15 PM
The day Murph goes to Ford will be the sad day I stop watching V8 SC's. I know I'm pretty pathetic but Murph is the one and only reason I still watch it at all. :( :( :(

SINISTER R8
18-10-2009, 03:19 PM
Hmmm, don't like the sound of this, hoping that it's a media beat up!!

I personally think Murph has too much invested in the Holden Franchise. He is a big player in the Fujitsu series with Greg Murphy Racing.

I can't see him jumping ship.

i think there will be a snowman on the devils doorstep before he does more, i just cant see it happening.

wont believe it till he is driving a ford

HSV590
18-10-2009, 04:26 PM
I'm not sure why some of you don't think it could happen...Who ever would have thought that one Craig Lowndes would ever have moved to Ford!!!!

SS_FIFTY
18-10-2009, 04:33 PM
I'm not sure why some of you don't think it could happen...Who ever would have thought that one Craig Lowndes would ever have moved to Ford!!!!
And then move back again lol

Pav023
18-10-2009, 04:50 PM
now this would be good :woot:
Be good for the sport as Holden have the tripple 8 brigade
come on murph you know you want to

GavinO
18-10-2009, 05:25 PM
now this would be good :woot:
Be good for the sport as Holden have the tripple 8 brigade
come on murph you know you want to

Couldn't agree more. As much as I like Murph (and Holden), Ford and the V8 Supercar franchise really need something like this to keep the format interesting and even.

knockout
18-10-2009, 05:29 PM
Shame if he goes, but I suppose it is a job and he needs to do whatever is best for his future.

Good luck to him wherever he is, but hopefully its still with Holden!

JLR
18-10-2009, 06:01 PM
dont go murph. dont go!

Carby650
18-10-2009, 06:26 PM
now this would be good :woot:
Be good for the sport as Holden have the tripple 8 brigade
come on murph you know you want to

For once Pav I find myself agreeing with you....
Think I might need a bex and a lie down. :confused:
Whilst it would be sad to see him leave the red team we need to even up the numbers in the comp. As it stands I would say its close to 2 out of 3 cars being red next year.

cheers
Carby650

SINISTER R8
18-10-2009, 09:37 PM
As it stands I would say its close to 2 out of 3 cars being red next year.

cheers
Carby650

thats right, 10 Fords and 20 Holdens for next year. but its not Holdens or V8 Supercars fault that Ford dont seem to care about racing and their V8 road cars (from what I have heard Ford might be ending the V8, but keep FPV with the V8. Read it in the V8X magazine).

but Murphy, please dont go, you know you love it on the red side

and with Lowndes, Ford can keep him for all I care, arrogant IMO

Pav023
18-10-2009, 09:51 PM
For once Pav I find myself agreeing with you....
Think I might need a bex and a lie down. :confused:
Whilst it would be sad to see him leave the red team we need to even up the numbers in the comp. As it stands I would say its close to 2 out of 3 cars being red next year.

cheers
Carby650

For once, lol :D :D

Pickles
19-10-2009, 08:09 AM
Can't see it happening.
Cheers, Pickles.

Grinded
19-10-2009, 09:42 AM
I have an article here that quotes craig lowndes as saying he didn't want to shift back to holden, but he wants to stay with 888. When he resigned with 888 they mentioned nothing about a move to holden at the time, but apparently whincup knew about it...I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to go back, and I don't blame him for wanting to stick with his team over a badge..

Maybe murph is in the same boat? Its about a team winning. If I was racing a holden and came dead last, I wouldn't get out of the car all happy because a holden also came first. Teams win races, not brand.

SHANESVZSS
19-10-2009, 10:03 AM
id take murph over lowndes anyday! murphy has (so far) been very loyal to the red corner unlike lowndes who just goes where the money is and is in my eyes a die hard ford man..

HSV590
19-10-2009, 10:26 AM
id take murph over lowndes anyday! murphy has (so far) been very loyal to the red corner unlike lowndes who just goes where the money is and is in my eyes a die hard ford man..

Why pick on Lowndes, any race car driver will go where the best drive is and where they can get the best pay packet...It's a JOB guys, believe me, Murph, Tander or any Holden guy would race a Ford if the money was right. I'm sure most of you are LOYAL to the company you work for, get offered big bucks to go to the opposition most will take it..

VY18s
19-10-2009, 12:09 PM
thats right, 10 Fords and 20 Holdens for next year. but its not Holdens or V8 Supercars fault that Ford dont seem to care about racing and their V8 road cars (from what I have heard Ford might be ending the V8, but keep FPV with the V8. Read it in the V8X magazine).

but Murphy, please dont go, you know you love it on the red side

and with Lowndes, Ford can keep him for all I care, arrogant IMO

Yeah I agree. It's really Ford's problem that they're going to be outnumbered next year. Just like it was their problem after the AU's first year of winning 1 race, and deciding not to do anything about it. I don't feel sorry for Ford to be honest. They're always made out to be the "good" side, and quite frankly it's annoying. If they're not as interestied as Holden is why not just pull out all together?

Anyway I would hate to see Murphy go to Ford, but I wouldn't stop being a fan of him. Even if he did go to Ford Holden have still got the better deal.

Ford gets a bloke that has only driven well at Bathurst the lasts few years, and not a championship in his career.

Holden gets a team that won 3 Bathursts in a row, and the championship last year aswell as winning the most races this year, and currently leading the championship.

I'm sorry, but Ford would need alot more than Murphy on their side if they hope to counter the potential AU era MKII.

U.S.S_XR8
20-10-2009, 10:16 AM
Aren't Holden only supporting 2 teams (888+HRT) financially next year like Ford? I remember there was talk of teams like BOC not hearing if their money contract was being re-newed for next year.

Murph in a Ford?? hmmmmm Believe it when i see it, but this article back on the 17th adds more to AA


Earlier this week an article appeared in a publication known as “AutoAction” that Kiwi driver Greg Murphy may make the unprecidented switch from Holden, which he has driven through-out his entire career, to Ford in a bid to front what is being called a Super Kiwi Team.

For many years there have been little that New Zealand V8 Supercar race fans could cheer on, for the past decade they had Team Kiwi Racing – which went bankrupt earlier this year – and the Kiwi’s had Greg Murphy, however the last two years have seen a number of drivers come from the wilderness to make a name for themselves in the V8 Supercars field.

From Shane van Gisbergen, and Jason Richards, to Fabian Coulthard and Daniel Gaunt, not to mention the fall of Team Kiwi Racing but the rise of Tasman Motorsport which last season saw Greg Murphy team up with Jason Richards in an all-kiwi combination that came second at the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000.

However rumors were rife earlier this season that Tasman Motorsport was infact losing alot of money, that they would struggle to make the grid come 2010, a position the team has long denied – in what looked to be a replay of the Team Kiwi Racing saga.

It was at the Supercheap Auto Bathurst 1000 last weekend, where Greg Murphy and stand in endurance driver Mark Skaife were cruely robbed of their combined tenth Bathurst victory that Tasman Motorsport were in trouble, and not just in trouble they were struggling to make sure they would see out the remainder of the season.

The AutoAction publication, which entered stores on Wednesday, are claiming that Tasman Motorsport in an attempt to save face have approached Paul Cruickshank Racing, a fellow Kiwi, in an attempt to form a two car Ford based outfit which will be nicknamed the Super Kiwi Team.


Artist Impression - O.Real Designs.
http://www.sports-force.net.au/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Murphy_ford_sgr_2010-300x109.jpg

If a merger were to go ahead between the two outfits it would mean two New Zealand team owners, two licenses allowing them to run two cars, the ability to retain Fabian Coulthard who is believed to already be under contract with Paul Cruickshank Racing, as well as the ability to retain Greg Murphy who is under contract with Tasman Motorsport – in which he is one fifth of the ownership panel.

This would see Greg Murphy race in a Ford Falcon, rumored to be prepared by Triple Eight Racing this season before their decision to switch to Holden next year was finalised, after almost two decades racing Holden Commodores.

Despite being the face of Holden in New Zealand it is believed that Murphy would jump ship to the Blue val if a competitive drive was on offer, something he has not had since the K-Mart Racing days where he won three Bathurst events, and a strong competitior for the championship.

Fans are split as to whether they would still support Greg Murphy if he makes the move as both teams remain tight lipped over the current rumors.

Hamico
20-10-2009, 08:55 PM
Does Murph have any contractual obligations to Holden in NZ ?

This would be the only stumbling block if he does...

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QIKMIK
20-10-2009, 09:35 PM
He's their big HSV man. They had a Murph Edition VZ Clubby.

Mick

iloveholden
21-10-2009, 01:39 AM
He's their big HSV man. They had a Murph Edition VZ Clubby.

Mick

Didnt Murphy also advertise the new E2?

HSVDKB
21-10-2009, 07:26 PM
He's their big HSV man. They had a Murph Edition VZ Clubby.

Mick

And a VE version, I have build #2 of 51 built

VW Golf R32
21-10-2009, 10:55 PM
Greg Murphy in a Ford? It will never happen.

hqracer
22-10-2009, 11:38 AM
He has a VY HSV Murph, VZ Murph and VE HSV Murph. Cant see him going to Ford. His reputation in NZ would be destroyed.

Also can mention the fact he is the Club Patron of the NZ HSV Owners club.

Rat Pack
22-10-2009, 10:49 PM
I have an article here that quotes craig lowndes as saying he didn't want to shift back to holden, but he wants to stay with 888. When he resigned with 888 they mentioned nothing about a move to holden at the time, but apparently whincup knew about it...I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to go back, and I don't blame him for wanting to stick with his team over a badge..

Maybe murph is in the same boat? Its about a team winning. If I was racing a holden and came dead last, I wouldn't get out of the car all happy because a holden also came first. Teams win races, not brand.


I don't believe that he knew nothing about a possible move to Holden. I know for a fact that he was aware that 888 were considering the move back in March this year.

seldo
22-10-2009, 11:17 PM
Sorry - this whole thread is bullsh**. It won't happen.

rgmast
23-10-2009, 06:56 AM
I have an article here that quotes craig lowndes as saying he didn't want to shift back to holden, but he wants to stay with 888. When he resigned with 888 they mentioned nothing about a move to holden at the time, but apparently whincup knew about it...I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to go back, and I don't blame him for wanting to stick with his team over a badge..

Maybe murph is in the same boat? Its about a team winning. If I was racing a holden and came dead last, I wouldn't get out of the car all happy because a holden also came first. Teams win races, not brand.

Craig would be spewing cos of the pay cheque he would of been receiving from Ford now ceases :bawl:

mikek73xu1
28-10-2009, 06:40 PM
Greg Murphy will be at Supercheap next year in flash newly built by 888 chassis.

VY18s
30-10-2009, 11:17 PM
Craig would be spewing cos of the pay cheque he would of been receiving from Ford now ceases :bawl:

It wouldn't have made a difference mate. From next year onwards manufacturers can't contract drivers. I'm pretty sure Lowndes, and Courtney are the only two drivers in the series that get pay cheques from their respective manufacturer.

So even if Lowndes did stay with Ford next year his personal contract, and payment he recieves would still cease.

JLR
31-10-2009, 07:24 PM
Greg Murphy will be at Supercheap next year in flash newly built by 888 chassis.

Rusty and Murph in 888 chassis......... sounds good to me!

ivorya
02-11-2009, 02:39 PM
now this would be good :woot:
Be good for the sport as Holden have the tripple 8 brigade
come on murph you know you want to

Another rumor i've read is that young Moffat has already been signed to Supercheap Racing.

I guess we'll all find out when the silly season finishes although i'm finding the rumor mill much more entertaining than the racing this yr..

HSVDKB
05-11-2009, 11:57 AM
Unless Greg Murphy is lying he will be in a Holden next year. Below is a quote from an email he mailed out today.

"How are we all Guys?

I know it's an anxious wait to find out what is happening in 2010 but, as I said in my last release, "There is a lot of things going on behind the scenes to get sorted out for next year", so at the moment I'm focussing on the next 3 rounds of the season.
I can only tell you that I will be driving a Holden next year!"

V8BEER
06-11-2009, 02:28 AM
Good to hear. But someone has to go to ford, with only 10 frauds next year, its a bit lop sided. I want holden to beat more frauds than that . . .

Carby650
06-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Good to hear. But someone has to go to ford, with only 10 frauds next year, its a bit lop sided. I want holden to beat more frauds than that . . .

Fraud have got what they deserve IMHO.
I read an article recently where one of the Head's Of at Fraud flew over for Bathurst and besides most likely spending the night crying in his Moet he had a meeting with all the Fraud teams. The abreviated version of this meeting is that they have admitted that they have F*cked up and acknowledge that they are revisiting their sponsorship policy. Along the lines of they might be better off putting there sponsorship $$$$'s back into racing rather then spending it on sponsoring golf , tennis the Ballet ect. I wonder how many thousands of dollars the paid consultants to tell them that. :confused:

cheers
Carby650

Evman
06-11-2009, 09:30 AM
It's very possible that the cancellation of sponsorship was to free up funds to help keep Ford Australia afloat. If that was indeed the case, then it certainly wasn't a f*** up on Ford's behalf. Sinking the company into trouble (or further into trouble) to win a few races that have little to no effect on vehicle sales anyway, would be a f*** up. Just another point of view anyway ;)

ova400
06-11-2009, 03:55 PM
Newest rumor from AA is that Murphy could drive for the Kelly brothers replacing Jack Perkins who doesn't have sponsorship to retain him there at the moment

Carby650
06-11-2009, 06:04 PM
It's very possible that the cancellation of sponsorship was to free up funds to help keep Ford Australia afloat. If that was indeed the case, then it certainly wasn't a f*** up on Ford's behalf. Sinking the company into trouble (or further into trouble) to win a few races that have little to no effect on vehicle sales anyway, would be a f*** up. Just another point of view anyway ;)

Here we go found the article.
AA Oct21-27. page 4 A short snippet of the article around my point.
"In a private meeting with the other Ford team principals at Bathurst, Burela declared that the company was staying in V8 supercars beyond its existing commitment to the end of 2010. He also made it clear that racing would be restored as a major marketing platform for Falcon and indicated that a review of Broadmeadows sponsorship strategy from 2011 would result in wider support.
....... Burela revealed that Dearborn chiefs had directed that the company should sponsor racing ahead of othr sports like cricket or golf."

From that I can assume that (and you may say I'm wrong) Ford have effectively admitted they f**ked up by ripping money from motorsport sponsorship whilst retaining heavy sponsorship of other forms of sport

cheers
Carby650

Regul8
06-11-2009, 06:51 PM
Dont believe the hype .. this will never happen

V8BEER
07-11-2009, 02:47 AM
Newest rumor from AA is that Murphy could drive for the Kelly brothers replacing Jack Perkins who doesn't have sponsorship to retain him there at the moment

Interesting, Murphy back with Rick, cant see him turning his back on his old mans team though

mikek73xu1
07-11-2009, 07:15 AM
Interesting, Murphy back with Rick, cant see him turning his back on his old mans team though

His old mans team isn't go be in existence next year .....

mrzee
07-11-2009, 10:18 PM
Fraud have got what they deserve IMHO.
I read an article recently where one of the Head's Of at Fraud flew over for Bathurst and besides most likely spending the night crying in his Moet he had a meeting with all the Fraud teams. The abreviated version of this meeting is that they have admitted that they have F*cked up and acknowledge that they are revisiting their sponsorship policy. Along the lines of they might be better off putting there sponsorship $$$$'s back into racing rather then spending it on sponsoring golf , tennis the Ballet ect. I wonder how many thousands of dollars the paid consultants to tell them that. :confused:

cheers
Carby650

A bit late, the horse has already bolted. The most successful Ford Team over the last few years has already gone. Ford lost the plot when they made the Turbos their hero cars rather then a big V8.

Ford seem to forget they are trying to get teenage boys to want their cars when they grow up, i've wanted a v8 since I was about 12 can't say I've lusted a rice cook though

VY18s
08-11-2009, 06:20 PM
A bit late, the horse has already bolted. The most successful Ford Team over the last few years has already gone. Ford lost the plot when they made the Turbos their hero cars rather then a big V8.

Ford seem to forget they are trying to get teenage boys to want their cars when they grow up, i've wanted a v8 since I was about 12 can't say I've lusted a rice cook though

Ford lost the plot when they made the AU.

V8BEER
11-11-2009, 06:05 AM
His old mans team isn't go be in existence next year .....

Yeah I heard they were in money troubles, hence the start of this whole post, if they do fold, I could see Murphy at the Kellys and then skiafe with him at the enduros or F#$k it just give him the fourth seat in the team :rofl:

mikek73xu1
11-11-2009, 06:13 AM
[QUOTE=V8BEER;1624686]Yeah I heard they were in money troubles, hence the start of this whole post, if they do fold, I could see Murphy at the Kellys and then skiafe with him at the enduros or F#$k it just give him the fourth seat in the team :rofl:

Word on the street is definitely Murphy to Supercheap - it all fits in, Murphy has driven a Supercheap sponsored car before and him and Ingall get on.

andrewslr
11-11-2009, 07:13 AM
Just to add more to the speculation, in an interesting chat yesterday with someone who has loose connection with Murphy Motorsport, that Murph and the Enforcer will be teaming up in 888 Commodores.

Not sure where that leaves Lowndes and Whincup??

As I say just more speculation

falcom
11-11-2009, 08:16 AM
Just to add more to the speculation, in an interesting chat yesterday with someone who has loose connection with Murphy Motorsport, that Murph and the Enforcer will be teaming up in 888 Commodores.

Not sure where that leaves Lowndes and Whincup??

As I say just more speculation

888 will be making Commodores for Supercheap.

So Lowndes & Whincup will be in 888 Commodores.

Ingall & Murphy(if rumour is true) will be in Supercheap Commodores built by 888.

mikek73xu1
11-11-2009, 11:49 AM
888 will be making Commodores for Supercheap.

So Lowndes & Whincup will be in 888 Commodores.

Ingall & Murphy(if rumour is true) will be in Supercheap Commodores built by 888.

It is common knowledge that 888 is supplying chassis's to Supercheap [Paul Morris Motorsport]. PMM are going to supply 888 with engines.
So we know for sure Ingall will be in a 888 chassis and its very probable Murphy will be there too.

V8BEER
12-11-2009, 05:44 AM
Cool, the two most out spoken blokes in V8s together on the same team :rofl:

acessv
16-11-2009, 05:22 PM
Oh well here's my 2 cents.

Paul dumbrell ---FPR---Dad bought 3rd licence.

Jason Bright---Brad Jones Racing.

Murph Senior bought Wilson Cruickshank licence, Greg spat it with his dad and is now in talks with Kelly Racing.

Only time will tell.

mikek73xu1
19-11-2009, 07:29 AM
Well its been confirmed - Murphy to partner Ingall at Supercheap.

falcom
19-11-2009, 09:17 AM
Well its been confirmed - Murphy to partner Ingall at Supercheap.

Where did you get this info from?

v8 ute
19-11-2009, 09:22 AM
Murph is definantely at Paul Morris/Supercheap

mikek73xu1
19-11-2009, 09:59 AM
On our TV3 news last night.

falcom
19-11-2009, 10:29 AM
Thats good news for Murph. He should finally be in a good car.