ve sv6 clutch problems

[david6509]

has anyone had any problems with the dual mass fly wheels in the ve sv6? my car has ony done 9000km and the clutch is rooted. holden want to charge me $600 to get my car back as well as 3 grand for a new clutch, cause they believe i miss used the car, i dont do burnouts and do stupid things. any information would be helpful as i am in the middle of a fight with them and they are reviewing my case. i have found an after market clutch for $1800 NPC but would prefer to keep the money in m
my pocket.

[moconn20]

you dont have to do burnouts to destroy a clutch, you could just be a crappy driver?

[Djbarnstar]

If they are anything like the ones behind the V8, then they are crap to start with. Holden will do anything to get out of replacing it on warranty. Keep at them dude. Good luck. Also there are a few MASSIVE threads on the VE v8 clutch and their woes. Maybe have a look there for inspiration?

[vzss05]

Depends on your dealer, I had clutch and flywheel replaced last week last week on my SSV under warranty, had done 28k on it

[moconn20]

Depends on your dealer, I had clutch and flywheel replaced last week last week on my SSV under warranty, had done 28k on it

Yes but your 31, the Op is on P's... I'd say this has quite alot to do with the different responses from dealers.

[vzss05]

Yes but your 31, the Op is on P's... I'd say this has quite alot to do with the different responses from dealers.

Also has to do with I've been servicing the car with the same dealer for five years and have built a good relationship with them.

[planetdavo]

ANYONE who comments on a clutch issue by accusing a dealer of trying to avoid a claim is simply a stirrer looking to create trouble (or make themselves look like a hero on this forum).
Many different things can cause a clutch to fail, and to think you can diagnose it over the internet shows a serious lack of knowledge on the subject of clutch failure.
It is NOT in a dealers interest to p!ss off a customer by rejecting a warranty claim if they can avoid it, but if the cause is obvious, Holden (the company- not the dealer) will refuse to pay for it.

[david6509]

i have done a bit of research and they have a dual mass fly wheel in them, if you google search them they are crap and are only put in to reduce vibration correct me if i am wrong and have been told they fail under towing or weight and i do cart around a few things in it. i have called a few places and they reckon scrap the clutch system and change it to a solid fly wheel. holden are reviewing my case i shall let u guys know how it goes. any feedback is welcome to fuel the fight. i am very disappointed with holden:flipoff:

[ova400]

I can see what PlanetDavo is saying and also your point that the clutch should have lasted longer than what it did in your instance, but you have to remember they are only built to withstand 'normal' driving conditions. If you overload your car, might still be safe, but manuals have a lower towing capacity for certain reasons (the clutch for example). You really need to find out what they think is actually wrong with the clutch not just it needs replacing, then go from there.

As you say though, the standard ones are pretty rubish, so you maybe wiser just to pay for the NPC clutch and be done with it, even if they fit it so the $600 (i assume labour cost)to get gearbox out isn't wasted.

All the best though

[Buckd1ch]

Im assuming this NPC clutch your getting is from Hi-Torque or PowerTorque? I got an NPC in my vx ss a few months ago from Hi-Torque and could not be happier, taken everything ive thrown at it so far. Its probably worth your while scrapping the stock crap and putting something strong into it for piece of mind. Also my stock flywheel was still in decent condition, so instead of getting the billet one i retained my stock flywheel and got it done for 1200 instead of 1800. I didnt really need the new flywheel as im not making 10000000rwkw as im sure you are not either. Just my 2 cents.

Tim

[david6509]

Im assuming this NPC clutch your getting is from Hi-Torque or PowerTorque? I got an NPC in my vx ss a few months ago from Hi-Torque and could not be happier, taken everything ive thrown at it so far. Its probably worth your while scrapping the stock crap and putting something strong into it for piece of mind. Also my stock flywheel was still in decent condition, so instead of getting the billet one i retained my stock flywheel and got it done for 1200 instead of 1800. I didnt really need the new flywheel as im not making 10000000rwkw as im sure you are not either. Just my 2 cents.

Tim

yer well unforutenly i have to change the fly wheel to a solid mass fly wheel, which i have been quoted on by a guy in archerfield for the npc kit 1800 fitted, holden have told me they wont cover the clutch and its a disapointment seeing as this is my first holden and the car has only done 9000km, i only carry around 400-500kg which is within the cars ability. as holden will not cover the clutch i am hoping they will at least cover the $600 fee to get my car back, so i can afford to get my car back up and running.

[AQICLS3]

Ok i had the same issue a few years back......when i went back to the dealer they told me it was abuse so i said thx very much i will get an after market clutch. They then told me i had to pay for the labour, I said you should have told me this at the start. They agreed and i drove of no bill. So what I am saying did they tell you that if the clutch was not covered under warranty that you would have to pay for the labour? If they didnt they can not charge you now.

[david6509]

I can see what PlanetDavo is saying and also your point that the clutch should have lasted longer than what it did in your instance, but you have to remember they are only built to withstand 'normal' driving conditions. If you overload your car, might still be safe, but manuals have a lower towing capacity for certain reasons (the clutch for example). You really need to find out what they think is actually wrong with the clutch not just it needs replacing, then go from there.

As you say though, the standard ones are pretty rubish, so you maybe wiser just to pay for the NPC clutch and be done with it, even if they fit it so the $600 (i assume labour cost)to get gearbox out isn't wasted.

All the best though

as i said in the post before the weight i am carrying is within the specifictions of the vechile, they tell me that i have been miss using the car cause i am a p plater but the dealer guy acted stupid saying the v6 clutches arnt affected rung customer care and they told me different. then rung the dealership back and he said o i think we have done one.

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Ok i had the same issue a few years back......when i went back to the dealer they told me it was abuse so i said thx very much i will get an after market clutch. They then told me i had to pay for the labour, I said you should have told me this at the start. They agreed and i drove of no bill. So what I am saying did they tell you that if the clutch was not covered under warranty that you would have to pay for the labour? If they didnt they can not charge you now.

they said that it would most likely be under warranty. a mistake on my behalf:bawl: what aftermarket clutch did u put on and how much was it?

[pmac]

Be patient and very persistant

and keep contacting holden customer service
the more you become a annoyance, the quicker they want to get your case sorted

[GODSMACK]

It is NOT in a dealers interest to p!ss off a customer by rejecting a warranty claim if they can avoid it, but if the cause is obvious, Holden (the company- not the dealer) will refuse to pay for it.

Perhaps you should have a read of the "Rate your Dealer" thread, you might learn something...

[david6509]

Be patient and very persistant

and keep contacting holden customer service
the more you become a annoyance, the quicker they want to get your case sorted

my case has been reviewed twice and no luck all i can say about holden :flipoff: they shouldnt have put such a dogey clutch in the car. if anyone
can sugest a good place for clutches around archerfield?

[ova400]

NPC is at Archerfield and they certainly do good work.

[moconn20]

my case has been reviewed twice and no luck all i can say about holden :flipoff: they shouldnt have put such a dogey clutch in the car.


I havent heard many complaints about the v6 clutches... the one in my previous sv6 ute had no issues at all.

[david6509]

I havent heard many complaints about the v6 clutches... the one in my previous sv6 ute had no issues at all.

did u carry a load or tow something constantly? thats when they fail

[moconn20]

yeah carried a fair few loads in it, no worries.

[planetdavo]

Perhaps you should have a read of the "Rate your Dealer" thread, you might learn something...
The day the pack of whingers on the internet that never accept they cause anything to fail start being honest with themselves will be the day earth freezes over. The rate your dealer thread has some legitimate posts, and some fully crock of sh!t posts from people that thrash their cars, then cry into their cornflakes and rant all over the internet when warranty is rejected, as it should be rejected. Being an "enthusiust" doesn't mean you get EVERYTHING the way YOU want it you know.
Perhaps you can learn something too. :)