Aeroforce gauges

[LS1-5.7]

Well guys & girls they have arrived ! My aeroforce gauges that is :) For those that have them, I can see what all the rave is about as they truly are an awesome bit of gear. The aeroforce guys in the states are first rate and really look after you. For those of you interested I've got pics of the pod I made to house them which in my opinion (and everyone that has seen it) looks better and is a better design than the ones ready to buy for anywhere from $70 to $300. Total cost of this one $25 but a fairly high labour intensive time over a 1 week period. Total cost under $500 and 100 times better than hsv or other single function gauges !

[Mohit]

Expecting my gauges to come in tomorrow for my VYII SS auto. Can't wait to put them in.

Was it easy to run the cables from the dash top to the OBDII port under the dash without removing any dash panels?

[Spider]

I got my gauge in the mail yesterday :)
Cant wait to install it on the weekend.

[JaMeS_2007]

any pics of your holder ls1-5.7?

[VX_INT]

There bit of a bitch to run the cables.... Have to run them down the left then around the back.

[VyLS1Berlina]

There bit of a bitch to run the cables.... Have to run them down the left then around the back.

I ran mine down the drivers side with no problems !

[Kushy]

You got any pictures mate?

[crtx]

where did you guys get these from?

[VX_INT]

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/ls1berlina/12112009253.jpg
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/ls1berlina/12112009254.jpg
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/ls1berlina/12112009255.jpg
http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu180/ls1berlina/12112009256.jpg

[WOMBIE]

where did you guys get these from?


I like them in the blue......... http://www.aeroforcetech.com/

[Mohit]

VX_INT, how did you run the cable from the gauges to the OBDII connector under the dash? Did you have to remove any part of the dashboard to do this?

[VX_INT]

Na didnt have to remove nothing. I run it down the left side then around the back to the OBD2. I used a length of wire taped to the end of the cable, made it easier to feed it down.

[Rub]

it would be nice to be able to put these somewhere on the VX...

I might have to put them on the bonnet :lol:

[Mohit]

Just received mine can't wait to put them in

[Evman]

There bit of a bitch to run the cables.... Have to run them down the left then around the back.

I ran mine down the front right of the centre consol. You can run a coat hanger down some gaps and it pokes out down the bottom (almost a straight line). Tape the gauge ends to the wire then pull back up :) Less than 5 mins ;)

[phantom_ss]

do you guys order off the american site and get them posted over or do yas buy it off the australian dealers?

[Evman]

America mate. The Oz distributor is a rip, especially with the dollar as high as it is :)

[adamonimac]

A quick question for those who already have the Aeroforce gauges.... What parameters can it display without any extra sensor kits? (VY SS)

cheers

Adam

[Evman]

The only things you may want to be able to read is fuel pressure and wideband. Everything else is covered.

[Spider]

it would be nice to be able to put these somewhere on the VX...

I might have to put them on the bonnet :lol:

Here's an idea but it depends how you feel about pillar pods.
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=1617816&postcount=7

[APCLB]

When does the "group buy" start again? :)
Anyone need a still in the box VZ binnicle only? Sell or swap.....(for VY)

[cashie]

I ran mine down the front right of the centre consol. You can run a coat hanger down some gaps and it pokes out down the bottom (almost a straight line). Tape the gauge ends to the wire then pull back up :) Less than 5 mins ;)

I did the same thing both times I've installed them, but I used a piece of coax cable...

[daskip]

im in for a group buy

[LS1-5.7]

Pics of the pod will be coming very soon. The easiest way to run the cable is to remove the instrument cluster surround (2 screws) and then you'll see a nice sized hole looking from the drivers seat to where the top dash plate sits. Make sure you pull the fuse box panel under the steering column down and move the steering column to the lowest position. All up takes about 30 mins including tidying up the cable behind the dash :) I would suggest to all who have/are getting these gauges to buy a sun shade screen for the windscreen as the direct sun will not be too kind on the gauges especially in 40 degree heat !
Adam, they will display everything your ECU gets including oil pressure without any additional senders. I've got mine set for oil pressure, coolant temp, battery voltage and air intake temp. The combinations and different options are endless.

[RB26DETT]

I installed mine under the stereo in my VT.

I need to get a bit more angle on them though, as I cant see all the writing on the top of the gauge.

[ti0350]

Definately want to get a set of these for my SS just gotta save up the $$$

[Mohit]

I've got mine set for oil pressure, coolant temp, battery voltage and air intake temp. The combinations and different options are endless.
Just put mine in tonight and i have the same parameters being displayed on my gauges. Still need to run the cables behind the dash will do that later on tonight. So far very happy with these gauges.

[DC347]

When does the "group buy" start again? :)
Anyone need a still in the box VZ binnicle only? Sell or swap.....(for VY)

What is the differance between the vy and the vz (size??) Will the aeroforce guages fit and how much do you want for the binnicle

Cheers Chris

[Mohit]

Just put mine in tonight and i have the same parameters being displayed on my gauges. Still need to run the cables behind the dash will do that later on tonight. So far very happy with these gauges.
Just finished installing the gauges in my car. Here's a few pics that might help others when installing theirs (excuse the crappy mobile phone pics):

After you have popped the dash top cover off, poke a cable down the right side until it comes out the bottom. I removed the plastic trim piece on the side of the centre console to make it easier.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce01.jpg

Tape the ends of the OBDII cable to the cable you you have just poked through your dash and pull the whole thing up out of the top of the dash.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce02.jpg

The OBDII connector is under the fuse panel under the steering wheel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce03.jpg

Here's the end result. Will take some better pics on the weekend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce04.jpg

[crtx]

i'm keen for a group buy also did you guys get the interceptor model?

[DaveVESSV]

Hi
Do these gauges work on a 07 ve ssv?
cheers Dave

[toey]

if you get these gauges and the wideband kit can you use this to log afr's on hp tuners or efi live??

[bewsa cv8]

Does anyone know about group buys? i think it sounds like a great idea..

[phantom_ss]

id be up for a group but thats for sure! if i knew the process of one i would start and organise it myself

[LS1-5.7]

Ok for those that wanted to see the pod here are some pics.
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/13112009599.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/10112009578.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/13112009600.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/13112009602.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/10112009585.jpg
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd330/bendy173/13112009606.jpg

Like I said, $25 in parts and a few late nights with some determination but well worth the effort. :smilesandbanana:

[VX_INT]

You can get HSV binnacles for $100.....

[VZMY06SS]

I have a set of these at home and have been trying for months to get them to fit into my VZ SS. The VZ gauge pods are too small to fit these size gauges, but the VY pod is the wrong shape for the space given on models with climate control.. I have tried to tweak the VZ pod, but I can't forsee being able to make the holes big enough without ruining how it would look..
Has anyone else had the same issue?

Steve

[APCLB]

What is the differance between the vy and the vz (size??) Will the aeroforce guages fit and how much do you want for the binnicle

Cheers Chris

Im sure the VZ is shorter than the VY mate. $80 would seal the deal. Prefer swap if possible.....

[Mohit]

I have a set of these at home and have been trying for months to get them to fit into my VZ SS. The VZ gauge pods are too small to fit these size gauges, but the VY pod is the wrong shape for the space given on models with climate control.. I have tried to tweak the VZ pod, but I can't forsee being able to make the holes big enough without ruining how it would look..
Has anyone else had the same issue?

Steve
Check this thread as it has been done in a VZ as you can see from the pic below: http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showpost.php?p=968349&postcount=68

http://www.spectrewars.com.au/images/images/uteimages/Aeroforce%20002.jpg



One thing i've noticed with these gauges is that their display gets affected with extreme sun light/heat. Today was a very hot and clear day in Melb and the car was parked outside in the sun for a few hours. When i turned the car on the the display was a bit lighter (greyer) than usual. As it cooled down the display went back to the normal black. So if you're parking in the sun make sure you're carrying a windscreen sun shade in the car!

[BLOWN_VXSS]

Do I need wide band o2s to monitor air fuel or can I fo it with standard o2s?

[OVZ-346]

ive wanted one of these or a scanguage for a while but cant get happy with where i would put either in a vz ss

i hate pillar pods.... given the fact i own a plastic welding and repair company i might just make myself something that hopefully looks factory once i work out which way i want to go... this thread has given me a few pointers

[Nidz]

They look pretty good.. Earlier models like VT-VX don't have the space for the dash mounts.. Can you run a single gauge instead of double? Can you get all the same features as a scroll through function? What beenefits would this have say over a scangauge besides the aesthetics?

[Mohit]

They look pretty good.. Earlier models like VT-VX don't have the space for the dash mounts.. Can you run a single gauge instead of double? Can you get all the same features as a scroll through function? What beenefits would this have say over a scangauge besides the aesthetics?
Yes you can run just the one gauge. There are single and double A-pillar gauge mounts available for Commodores. All features will be the same as when you run 2 gauges you are running 2 separate gauges.

[Evman]

Nidz -

Certainly can run a single gauge mate. The only benefit of having the dual gauge setup is that you can monitor 4 parameters at once. The scroll through feature will still operate. From memory (rough memory at that) you can pre-program 8 parameters for this. I'd say aesthetics are the main advantage over the scangauge. I'm very glad I got my gauges. If nothing else it gives you a better idea about what's going on with your car during your drive cycle :)

http://aces.rwkw.com/Random/Aeroforce03.jpg

Well under $500AU delivered, but remember the HSV pod is about $200RRP.

[luke355]

Guys,
Just to add to this thread guys I emailed Todd at aeroforce regarding buying some gauges direct he said that they won't be doing that as they have a distributor in oz being xtreme auto gauges however Ive been emailing a company in the USA called gmi sales ( just google it) and he's been helpful and added an option on the website for us Aussies to choose metric I just ordered a dual setup and the total with priorty shipping is $466 aus. Hope this helps anyone who wants there gauges cheaper.

[DC347]

Guys,
Just to add to this thread guys I emailed Todd at aeroforce regarding buying some gauges direct he said that they won't be doing that as they have a distributor in oz being xtreme auto gauges however Ive been emailing a company in the USA called gmi sales ( just google it) and he's been helpful and added an option on the website for us Aussies to choose metric I just ordered a dual setup and the total with priorty shipping is $466 aus. Hope this helps anyone who wants there gauges cheaper.

Just ordered mine from GMI fingers crossed.

[8throttlebodies]

Guys,

Here is my install into a VT-VX Console. This was done by myself and best mate over a weekend. Other forum members (Beno and JBondSS) helping out (chief technical advisors) as usually.

Went a bit further than just the scan gauges tho.

Let me know what ya think...

Ignore the tape of the far right gauge. I have the bezels on them now.

Ended up repainted the silver bezels to be black to match the AFR gauge and contrast against the "spray pack" silver finish.

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l313/8tb/14112009315.jpg

Happy to help with questions.

[BLOWN_VXSS]

8throttlebodies, noticed you also have an air fuel guage and wondering how you went about wiring up. Did you wire to 1 of the oxygen sensors and did you need to change to wide band sensor or does it work fine on a standard sensor. Mine have been replaced however I'm sure they aren't wide band.
I'm thinking about a air fuel guage....

[8throttlebodies]

8throttlebodies, noticed you also have an air fuel guage and wondering how you went about wiring up. Did you wire to 1 of the oxygen sensors and did you need to change to wide band sensor or does it work fine on a standard sensor. Mine have been replaced however I'm sure they aren't wide band.
I'm thinking about a air fuel guage....

Its the PLX SM-AFR - Widband O2 senor and Gauge.

I welded a new bung in the exhaust, and fitted a WB02 permanently to the car.

Pretty easy install, my brother did all the wiring and did a top job of hiding it under the centre console. Also installed my MVPI Pro box for HPT as well, which the WB plugs into.

8tb

[Evman]

You can get a wideband sensor kit for the aeroforce gauges :)

[Toddler78]

You can get a wideband sensor kit for the aeroforce gauges :)

go on:)........

[Evman]

go on:)........

Allow me to elaborate... :lol:

Wideband kit (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_sensors_wideband.html)

Fuel and oil pressure kits (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_sensors_oil.html) (oil pressure is already read by OBDII, so only fuel pressure is the applicable one... for most of us anyway...)

Boost/vacuum sensor kit (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_sensors_boost.html)

Temp sensor kits (http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_sensors_temp.html) (air and fluid)


The two analog inputs can be configured through menu choices. A linear conversion can be entered so that an analog signal connected to the gauge can be read in appropriate units. These inputs are handy for pressure signals such as those from MAP and oil pressure sensors, analog outputs from Air/Fuel ratio kits, etc. These signal can then be read and recorded along side the other parameters obtained on the vehicle's bus.

[DC347]

Forgive me if this is a stupid question but just ordered some from the US and they are asking if I need " Can Bus Comunication protocol"??? HELP!!! please.

[Sixes350]

Someone told me that for my 04 VY SS that it is a Non Can . . . I hope they are right

Also, where is the cheapest place I can get a HSV VY Binnacle from?

[Sixes350]

You can get HSV binnacles for $100.....

Where from???

Also, I just purchased my gauges from GMI

[luke355]

mine just arrived today from GMI took 15mins to fit them and they work perfect just gotta figure what parameters i want.

[neaty383]

Has anyone fitted these gauges to an LS3 based setup? The local distributors all suggest on their web site that LS1 and LS2's are supported but no mention of LS3. However, LS3 is vaguely mentioned on some US based forums.

Anyone here mated a LS3 to an aeroforce gauge?

[LS1-5.7]

Ok, so it's been a while now and time for an update. I have noticed a few niggly problems and am wondering if I am alone with this "aeroforce" experience.

Firstly, the gauge display washes out fairly quickly with any sort of heat although it has been admitted that they will by aeroforce themselves.
Secondly, I've noticed that sometimes the gauges take a fair while to boot up, eg 1,2,5 minutes or longer. I think it has something to do with how long after the ignition is turned on you crank the engine.

And last but not least, one of the displays lost the lower left quadrant of illumination on the screen, although a superfast response via email from Todd in the states and 5 minutes with a soldering iron fixed it.

Apart from the above, still very happy with the package and the gauges make you very aware of what is happening inside the engine and give you the best early warnings available.

Anyone having/had these issues ?

[NIXON]

How did you guys go with the oil pressure. Did you need a new oil sender adaptor?

[JaMeS_2007]

yeah mine dull out in the heat of the day but have always come back good. thats the only issue i have with them.

and for the oil pressure the scan gauges plug straight into the OBD II plug so it sends out what the computer is telling it.

[Toddler78]

Ok, so it's been a while now and time for an update. I have noticed a few niggly problems and am wondering if I am alone with this "aeroforce" experience.

Firstly, the gauge display washes out fairly quickly with any sort of heat although it has been admitted that they will by aeroforce themselves.
Secondly, I've noticed that sometimes the gauges take a fair while to boot up, eg 1,2,5 minutes or longer. I think it has something to do with how long after the ignition is turned on you crank the engine.

And last but not least, one of the displays lost the lower left quadrant of illumination on the screen, although a superfast response via email from Todd in the states and 5 minutes with a soldering iron fixed it.

Apart from the above, still very happy with the package and the gauges make you very aware of what is happening inside the engine and give you the best early warnings available.

Anyone having/had these issues ?

mate if you can can you elaborate on the fading display/not heat related.

ofthe last few weeks I have noticed that my left guage(secondary guage) is alot lighter then the right one(as if it was heat related) if you can give me an idea as to the fix before I email Todd that would be great

[Mohit]

I've found the gauge display will wash out a bit when exposed to heat (eg. parked outside on a hot day). A windscreen sun shade should help reduce or eliminate this problem.

Also you don't need another sensor/sender for oil pressure. The oil pressure is displayed as one of the parameters.

[LS1-5.7]

Toddler, the display issue on one of the gauges was due to a dry joint at one of the contacts for the display. Had to pull the gauge apart and resolder but it's easier than resending to the states. If you have one that's lighter than the other and the illumimation setting is the same on both gauges eg: 1,2 or 3 then maybe you have a pair of mismatched gauges. Aeroforce do try to ship twin gauges that are similar in display colours but have led me to believe there is some variance across the range.
I have to admit mine are not 100% identical either but very close and not enough to warrant sending back for the same result.

Mohit, I use a sunshade every day regardless of the outside heat but I've noticed they will wash out a little even when they've been on for over an hour or so in 25 degree heat. The direct sunlight while driving seems to hit them the hardest but they've never been illegible. All in all a livable problem considering.

[Toddler78]

cheers for that info I will email Todd,

I have had my guages for over 2 years now and it has only rencenlty happened and is dependant on the voltage running through the guage

[Sixes350]

No problems with mine. Have the dash mat to stop any excess heat getting onto the gauges (plus stops the glare from the dash)

[S2VYSS]

What do they display? Just whatever the pcm monitors?

[VZMY06SS]

Yeah, pretty much. I would compare their usefulness to the EFI live scan tool, just a more easy to view while driving and alot less useful for data logging.
They are a handy bit of gear but are guarenteed to distract you while driving for ages after you get them. I'm still trying to figure out a way of fitting mine into my dash, as the VZ (with climate) console lid is a different shape to VY and VZ without climate meaning that I can't use a standard pod to mount them..

Steve

[Sixes350]

My mate has a VZ and I got a whole new climate dash fascia off ebay. All I wanted was the pop out cup holders as one of mine was busted. Anyway, should be putting the fascia in his as it will mount up and have the VY binnacle in it to mount the gauges.

[toey]

Yeah, pretty much. I would compare their usefulness to the EFI live scan tool, just a more easy to view while driving and alot less useful for data logging.
They are a handy bit of gear but are guarenteed to distract you while driving for ages after you get them. I'm still trying to figure out a way of fitting mine into my dash, as the VZ (with climate) console lid is a different shape to VY and VZ without climate meaning that I can't use a standard pod to mount them..

Steve

pm sent regarding mounting solution for vy/vz's

[S2VYSS]

What stuff does the pcm monitor? Sorry for being a pain

[Toddler78]

What stuff does the pcm monitor? Sorry for being a pain


to name a few off the top of my head

rpm
speedo
oil pressure
coolent temp
intake air temp
battery volts
knock retard
short fuel trims left bank and right bank
long fuel trims left and right bank
o2 sensor voltage
throttle %
manifold vacum
auto trans temp (if auto)
also has a programable shift light
will record information
will show DTC's and clear them

[Sixes350]

This has the info your are looking for :)

http://www.aeroforcetech.com/products_interceptor.html

[VX2VESS]

what is the difference between VX and VE scangauges?

I Tried the VX Scangauge in the VE doesn't even light up.

[Toddler78]

what is the difference between VX and VE scangauges?

I Tried the VX Scangauge in the VE doesn't even light up.


taking an educated guess but I think that because the VE is can-bus
the scan guages will get their info a dfferent way to the older style

[VX2VESS]

taking an educated guess but I think that because the VE is can-bus
the scan guages will get their info a dfferent way to the older style

So is it the gauge that need to be changed or the wiring on the plug is a different order?

[Red CV8 R]

I have noticed alot of you guys have black surrounds on your gauges, I have only seen silver bezels before. Is this an option when you purchase the gauges or are you guys sourcing these seperately?

[JaMeS_2007]

yes it is an option when ordering the gauges

[adamonimac]

yep, its an option. Be aware that if you order from the Aust dealer the dont keep them in stock so will take 3-4 weeks to get them in..........

[brycieboy]

i ordered mine from the au dealer and it came in a week. and was cheaper than getting it from the states.

[Sixes350]

You will need a CAN type gauge for it to work on the newer type vehicles.

[Sixes350]

i ordered mine from the au dealer and it came in a week. and was cheaper than getting it from the states.

12 days I had mine delivered from the states and saved $150 over what the Aus dealer wanted

[VKPWR]

I ma just about to purchase dual aeroforce gauges..

question:

can yo have Black data text and green backgournd or only dark green text with the green background?

want it to match my dash

[cashie]

I ma just about to purchase dual aeroforce gauges..

question:

can yo have Black data text and green backgournd or only dark green text with the green background?

want it to match my dash

Yes, you can reverse the text.

http://users.tpg.com.au/cashmore/Gauges%20On.jpg

http://users.tpg.com.au/cashmore/Gauges%20Console.jpg

[VKPWR]

cool, so is that text black? or really dark green?

[Toddler78]

looks pretty black to me

[Evman]

It's almost a perfect match for the Commodore displays :yup:

[VKPWR]

Is that all you have to do?? No power wires? no grounds??
Just finished installing the gauges in my car. Here's a few pics that might help others when installing theirs (excuse the crappy mobile phone pics):

After you have popped the dash top cover off, poke a cable down the right side until it comes out the bottom. I removed the plastic trim piece on the side of the centre console to make it easier.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce01.jpg

Tape the ends of the OBDII cable to the cable you you have just poked through your dash and pull the whole thing up out of the top of the dash.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce02.jpg

The OBDII connector is under the fuse panel under the steering wheel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce03.jpg

Here's the end result. Will take some better pics on the weekend.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/SS/aeroforce04.jpg

[Evman]

It's all powered off the OBDII port and as a result turns on when you turn the car on, and off when you turn the car off :)

[t33d3]

pretty sick how you get a range of difrnt info on them but im more of a fan of the original r8 gauges tbh

[LS1-5.7]

Got any blaaaacker ? :)

[str8up]

Hey guys, could someone do me a favour and show me a photo of what the current gear display looks like with an auto?

I have got a ls1 and 4L60E in my GU Patrol ute, but I cant get the surround to show the gear selection. Hoping these should do the trick.

Also can you get them to show up when you have a fault? Same as the engine check light would?

Cheers,

Trent

[str8up]

Anyone?

I just dont want to buy them and find out they're no good for what I need...

[Tuned_LS1]

So when ordering on the site, As I want 2 gauges, do I select "Dual PT series GM gauge" ?

My Cars a VY SS, all help appreciated!

And will this gauge holder work with them? Thanks guys! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140564490886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[blnls1]

So when ordering on the site, As I want 2 gauges, do I select "Dual PT series GM gauge" ?

My Cars a VY SS, all help appreciated!

And will this gauge holder work with them? Thanks guys! http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140564490886&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Yes "duel PT series" and make sure you tell them you need the metric.
Yes those gauge holder work. I have the same one.

[Tuned_LS1]

Yes "duel PT series" and make sure you tell them you need the metric.
Yes those gauge holder work. I have the same one.

Awesome, Thanks mate. Ordered! and so much cheaper than the Aussie dealers too!

[Tuned_LS1]

I ordered mine took over a month to arrive, but well worth the wait! I initially had them in a SS inductions Binnacle, but was terrible, so bought a genuine HSV one instead.

http://i55.tinypic.com/33wpbaq.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/2wgtdg0.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/25fpz52.jpg

Cheers,
Nathan.

[munz]

how do I order the metric version as there is no option??

[JET_VUGMH]

Just order them, they go by what country your order was placed in as to whether imperial or metric is sent out.

[bonners]

Jet, I'm not sure thats entirely true. I'm sure we had to ask for metric when we did our group buy. If you order, it can't hurt to send an email quoting your order number to verify it is metric you want

[Sixes350]

Correct. Send the dealer an email to confirm what you want.