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Tre-Cool
25-04-2013, 02:00 AM
Raced VE tonight at WAW, this time on 17" slicks, all runs start in 2nd gear

1st run - 11.315 @ 131.96 - lots of wheelspin - only run i used the 2-step - 2.040 - 60"
2nd run - 10.401 @ 133.92 - nice run - 1.666 - 60"
3rd run - 10.402 @ 132.74 - hit limiter between 3rd,4th - 1.602 - 60"
4th run (after burnouts) - 10.278 @ 135.74 - 1.647 -60"


http://youtu.be/jEhLNiX5HVU

Full weight, besides rear seat cushion and boot carpet removed, (but i make up for the weight with the methanol/water tank in the boot)

this is a completly STOCK 6l80e AUTO

sportwagon
25-04-2013, 04:10 PM
Raced VE tonight at WAW, this time on 17" slicks, all runs start in 2nd gear

1st run - 11.315 @ 131.96 - lots of wheelspin - only run i used the 2-step - 2.040 - 60"
2nd run - 10.401 @ 133.92 - nice run - 1.666 - 60"
3rd run - 10.402 @ 132.74 - hit limiter between 3rd,4th - 1.602 - 60"
4th run (after burnouts) - 10.278 @ 135.74 - 1.647 -60"


http://youtu.be/jEhLNiX5HVU

Full weight, besides rear seat cushion and boot carpet removed, (but i make up for the weight with the methanol/water tank in the boot)

this is a completly STOCK 6l80e AUTO

Very nice dave getting closer to that nine,had to laugh at your clip as i saw the white car in the other lane disappear in the distance.

Alex(AUS)
25-04-2013, 06:16 PM
Raced VE tonight at WAW, this time on 17" slicks, all runs start in 2nd gear

1st run - 11.315 @ 131.96 - lots of wheelspin - only run i used the 2-step - 2.040 - 60"
2nd run - 10.401 @ 133.92 - nice run - 1.666 - 60"
3rd run - 10.402 @ 132.74 - hit limiter between 3rd,4th - 1.602 - 60"
4th run (after burnouts) - 10.278 @ 135.74 - 1.647 -60"


http://youtu.be/jEhLNiX5HVU

Full weight, besides rear seat cushion and boot carpet removed, (but i make up for the weight with the methanol/water tank in the boot)

this is a completly STOCK 6l80e AUTO

Well done Dave!!! That is super quick!!!

Alex

Tre-Cool
25-04-2013, 11:03 PM
Cheers Guys, i have no doubt it would run a 10.2 as that was what i was aiming for. Sadly i only managed to get in 4 runs because it was pretty packed, so im heading back to the track friday night hoping to go quicker again with the prepped track and will see if i can turn up the power a little more with the water/meth spray.

I have a few vids of the night on youtube, but to save you from looking this is my helmet cam footage of one of the 10.4 runs.

http://youtu.be/mouU1zn57H4

sportwagon
26-04-2013, 07:37 PM
Cheers Guys, i have no doubt it would run a 10.2 as that was what i was aiming for. Sadly i only managed to get in 4 runs because it was pretty packed, so im heading back to the track friday night hoping to go quicker again with the prepped track and will see if i can turn up the power a little more with the water/meth spray.

I have a few vids of the night on youtube, but to save you from looking this is my helmet cam footage of one of the 10.4 runs.

http://youtu.be/mouU1zn57H4

How much did the slicks help your 60 foot time dave.

Tre-Cool
28-04-2013, 11:00 PM
i think the best i have done on the 20's was a high 1.8. i was doing flat 1.6's. on a proper racing night i believe that would be 1.5's.

I didnt race friday night as i was in hospital to have surgery the next day. (fckin kidney stones)

sportwagon
02-05-2013, 07:41 PM
i think the best i have done on the 20's was a high 1.8. i was doing flat 1.6's. on a proper racing night i believe that would be 1.5's.

I didnt race friday night as i was in hospital to have surgery the next day. (fckin kidney stones)

Fckin kidney stones had 4 of them in 2009 not much fun didnt have surgery just took 3 months to pass them so i know how you feel.

mentallydull
14-05-2013, 10:43 AM
Weather dependant, Ill be heading to Whoop Ass Wednesday tomorrow with the hope to get a bunch of runs in b4 the end of the season.

I had my car in for a service with WA Performance yesterday and got Mitch to run it up on the dyno because I havent been running the mph the car should. It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car. Incredible. Anyway, Ive got a VCM now and there is only a small difference between bonnet open and closed. The AFRs are also running really lean in the bottom and top end so Mitch is goin to have a look at them b4 I hit the drags tomorrow.

With any luck Ill be able to run my first 12 with mph in the range 112-115 rather than an underwhelming 107mph for a cammed car with over 300rwkw.

Tre-Cool
14-05-2013, 12:33 PM
Weather dependant, Ill be heading to Whoop Ass Wednesday tomorrow with the hope to get a bunch of runs in b4 the end of the season.

I had my car in for a service with WA Performance yesterday and got Mitch to run it up on the dyno because I havent been running the mph the car should. It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car. Incredible. Anyway, Ive got a VCM now and there is only a small difference between bonnet open and closed. The AFRs are also running really lean in the bottom and top end so Mitch is goin to have a look at them b4 I hit the drags tomorrow.

With any luck Ill be able to run my first 12 with mph in the range 112-115 rather than an underwhelming 107mph for a cammed car with over 300rwkw.

care to share the original brand otr?

lmoengnr
14-05-2013, 12:53 PM
Weather dependant, Ill be heading to Whoop Ass Wednesday tomorrow with the hope to get a bunch of runs in b4 the end of the season.

I had my car in for a service with WA Performance yesterday and got Mitch to run it up on the dyno because I havent been running the mph the car should. It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car. Incredible. Anyway, Ive got a VCM now and there is only a small difference between bonnet open and closed. The AFRs are also running really lean in the bottom and top end so Mitch is goin to have a look at them b4 I hit the drags tomorrow.

With any luck Ill be able to run my first 12 with mph in the range 112-115 rather than an underwhelming 107mph for a cammed car with over 300rwkw.


VCM or Duspeed?

mentallydull
14-05-2013, 03:45 PM
care to share the original brand otr?

The original was Orssom and I now have a VCM.

mustanger
14-05-2013, 04:06 PM
Weather dependant, Ill be heading to Whoop Ass Wednesday tomorrow with the hope to get a bunch of runs in b4 the end of the season.

I had my car in for a service with WA Performance yesterday and got Mitch to run it up on the dyno because I havent been running the mph the car should. It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed.

.............45kw :doh:.............:popcorn:

Wonky
14-05-2013, 04:14 PM
It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car. Incredible.

Bloody hell!! With my DUS OTR I actually gained 1.4 rwkw - see post #290 of http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?127842

mentallydull
14-05-2013, 04:31 PM
Bloody hell!! With my DUS OTR I actually gained 1.4 rwkw - see post #290 of http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?127842

Very interesting Wonky. Tell me, in that post, are you saying that the VCM was making 260 bonnet up and 270 bonnet closed?

Wonky
14-05-2013, 05:46 PM
The line you're referring to is I assume "Interestingly Chev said one time previously he put a DUS on a VE and got 270rwkw, then tried the VCM one as that's what the owner wanted. Consistent 260s! Closed the bonnet - 270!"

To be honest given it was getting on for 3 years ago I can't remember for sure but knowing the way I write it would have meant that the VCM one couldn't match the DUS' 270 with the bonnet up, I'd assume getting mid/high 260s, but managed it with the bonnet down. If it had been 260 I wouldn't have referred to it as 260s. :)

sportwagon
14-05-2013, 07:15 PM
Weather dependant, Ill be heading to Whoop Ass Wednesday tomorrow with the hope to get a bunch of runs in b4 the end of the season.

I had my car in for a service with WA Performance yesterday and got Mitch to run it up on the dyno because I havent been running the mph the car should. It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car. Incredible. Anyway, Ive got a VCM now and there is only a small difference between bonnet open and closed. The AFRs are also running really lean in the bottom and top end so Mitch is goin to have a look at them b4 I hit the drags tomorrow.

With any luck Ill be able to run my first 12 with mph in the range 112-115 rather than an underwhelming 107mph for a cammed car with over 300rwkw.

Im heading down to the motorplex tomorrow for a few runs as its my last chance this season come and say hi , im easy to spot as theres not to many other black ve calais wagons in the lanes.

markone2
14-05-2013, 07:24 PM
The line you're referring to is I assume "Interestingly Chev said one time previously he put a DUS on a VE and got 270rwkw, then tried the VCM one as that's what the owner wanted. Consistent 260s! Closed the bonnet - 270!"

To be honest given it was getting on for 3 years ago I can't remember for sure but knowing the way I write it would have meant that the VCM one couldn't match the DUS' 270 with the bonnet up, I'd assume getting mid/high 260s, but managed it with the bonnet down. If it had been 260 I wouldn't have referred to it as 260s. :)

VCM worked wonders for me in a stocker...........and no way known would it pull 260rwkw on a Mainline........just my take ;)



http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?163722-Willowbank-in-the-Senator




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mentallydull
14-05-2013, 07:51 PM
Im heading down to the motorplex tomorrow for a few runs as its my last chance this season come and say hi , im easy to spot as theres not to many other black ve calais wagons in the lanes.

Yep will see how I go. Ill be there in my VE SS Ute silver with my cousin and brother. Fingers crossed its a quiet night.

mentallydull
16-05-2013, 12:27 PM
So yesterday my car went in to WA Performance and a huge thanks to Mitch for the retune. The car made another 5kw over the original tune which was 315rwkw yesterday. The car feels and sounds a lot stronger in the top end now.

Great conditions for the drags last night in Perth with cold temps and clear skies. I managed 2 back to back runs of 12.6 @ 184km/h (2.1 60 footer) which is streaks ahead of my previous best of 13.0 @ 173 (2.0 60 footer) with the old tune and OTR. The best bit is there is in the region of 0.2-0.6 sec worth of improvement in those times if I can learn how to drive and do a 1.8 or 1.9 60 footer. The best time for a VE SS Ute with similar power to me in this whole thread was a 12.6 so I'm pretty stoked that this car has already run a 12.6 and in theory capable of 12.0-12.4.

Happy days :driving:

Wonky
16-05-2013, 04:25 PM
VCM worked wonders for me in a stocker...........and no way known would it pull 260rwkw on a Mainline........just my take ;)

I have no idea what mods that car had and it was probably an M6. Both my A6 cars pulled 260rwkw on Chev's Dyno Dynamics dyno as bolt ons and the ute (all 1940+kg with driver) did a 12.8 (stock stall, not drag tyres) which says to me it's not a happy dyno.

Wonky
18-05-2013, 06:01 PM
It turns out that the OTR I had was robbing the car of 45kw with the bonnet closed. With the bonnet open on the dyno it was producing food numbers but with it closed it was severely restricting the airflow. I still cant get over how much power it was sucking out of the car.

I was sure I had a post quoting figures on the Orrsom OTR on my previous SSV sedan which indicated that yours must have been installed incorrectly to lose 45rwkw :shock: and I just found it!

See http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?89689&p=1114846&#post1114846, in particular the sentences "As a matter of interest Chev then tried some runs with bonnet down and then bonnet down and cover off the OTR. Made no difference to AFRs and the kw only varied by a little as normally happens in different runs with no changes at all."

Tre-Cool
18-05-2013, 06:09 PM
im back home for the last 2 waw meets, so hopefully i'll get a few more runs in the ve. highly doubtful but i'm aiming for a 10.1 or better going to play around with the stall convertor programming and loose a bit of weight out of it.

sportwagon
18-05-2013, 08:29 PM
im back home for the last 2 waw meets, so hopefully i'll get a few more runs in the ve. highly doubtful but i'm aiming for a 10.1 or better going to play around with the stall convertor programming and loose a bit of weight out of it.

I hope they do some track prep,i was there on wednesday and with no andra meets anymore and 2 weeks of no waw due to rain i seriously struggled for grip usually my 60 foot times are between 1.78 and 1.9 and on wednesday all 4 runs between 2.0 and 2.3, i havent had a 60 foot time over 2.0 for 2 years or since i started running on ets.

mentallydull
19-05-2013, 03:02 AM
I was sure I had a post quoting figures on the Orrsom OTR on my previous SSV sedan which indicated that yours must have been installed incorrectly to lose 45rwkw :shock: and I just found it!

See http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?89689&p=1114846&#post1114846, in particular the sentences "As a matter of interest Chev then tried some runs with bonnet down and then bonnet down and cover off the OTR. Made no difference to AFRs and the kw only varied by a little as normally happens in different runs with no changes at all."

Not having a go at you at all wonky but the orssom otr i used to have was installed by 1 of the workshops that helped in the initial design and testing of that particular otr. Apart from that, itd be pretty hard to screw up installing it. If you were wondering, yes the rubber seal on the bonnet was cut in the required place to allow air into the otr. I always had an incling that it may have been not the best design around but I still went with that brand to begin with because i think I had read that thread regarding the testing you are talking about. However, the proof was infront of my eyes when I watched it get dynoed with bonnet up and down last week, 2 runs of each for consistency, and I have the dyno print outs to prove it. The afrs were very lean with the bonnet open, and even leaner with the bonnet closed. I also have that dyno print out. Now that I have the VCM OTR i have run 12.6 @ 184 with a 2.1 60ft time compared to my previous best of 13.0 @ 172 with a 2.0 60 ft time. Thats enough proof to me.

I would like to know how chev managed to test it with little difference in power.

Tre-Cool
19-05-2013, 08:28 AM
I hope they do some track prep,i was there on wednesday and with no andra meets anymore and 2 weeks of no waw due to rain i seriously struggled for grip usually my 60 foot times are between 1.78 and 1.9 and on wednesday all 4 runs between 2.0 and 2.3, i havent had a 60 foot time over 2.0 for 2 years or since i started running on ets.


yeah my old man raced his car this week and said it was a bit slippery. yet he till ran a new pb of 9.87 @ 145mph. im using slicks on the ve too, so that helps

Wonky
19-05-2013, 06:44 PM
I would like to know how chev managed to test it with little difference in power.

I was watching while he did it - only a kw or two difference with the bonnet down from memory, certainly not even 5kw or I'd have noted that in the post back then. As I said above, my Dus Mk 2 actually gained a little with the bonnet down. :goodjob:

Tre-Cool
23-05-2013, 12:50 AM
ran another 2 x 10.2's tonight.

this was the quickest @ 10.232

http://youtu.be/7nD7Ztkmtks

jaykay
24-05-2013, 03:13 PM
Congrats to Eddy and the team at Active Automotive....Eddy ran a 9.897@138.46 with 1.474 60' and 0.238 reaction time in his blown E3 GTS...the first positive displacement blown VE to run a 9.......:bow::bow::bow:

markone2
24-05-2013, 10:58 PM
Congrats to Eddy and the team at Active Automotive....Eddy ran a 9.897@138.46 with 1.474 60' and 0.238 reaction time in his blown E3 GTS...the first positive displacement blown VE to run a 9.......:bow::bow::bow:

Now that is moving......job well done imho

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Rocksteady
25-05-2013, 08:39 AM
Holy crap! 9's in a positive displacment blown Ve!!
Is that a HTV charger??
I was about to chase this time in the coming weeks I'm sure ill have it nailed time will tell

That is great work any details on the car????

white lie
25-05-2013, 09:23 AM
Holy crap! 9's in a positive displacment blown Ve!!
Is that a HTV charger??
I was about to chase this time in the coming weeks I'm sure ill have it nailed time will tell

That is great work any details on the car????

Maggie 2300 I believe

Rocksteady
25-05-2013, 10:17 AM
Anyone know any other specs about the car?
That's a quick 60ft is the car stripped? Very impressive none the less
What tyres?

white lie
25-05-2013, 04:56 PM
Couldn't tell you anything about it, but going by the FB pics they put up, it wasn't stripped. Didn't see inside but could clearly see the passenger seat.
Very unassuming for a 9 sec car, looked like a regular VE GTS on slicks!

Rocksteady
26-05-2013, 12:06 AM
Man those guys know how to get them hauling!!
If anyone else or active can shed some specs of the car would be great!

Tre-Cool
26-05-2013, 03:59 PM
im just curious to know if it's still running the factory auto or a turbo 400.

Oversteer
26-05-2013, 04:27 PM
im just curious to know if it's still running the factory auto or a turbo 400.

What gearbox are you running...it hauls off the line!!!

gaz05
26-05-2013, 04:31 PM
Yes good effort, the good "ruler" shows about 850hp for a full weight VE.

markone2
26-05-2013, 06:53 PM
Can I ask ? :hide: A3 / A4 or A6.......if the later I'll be banging down your shop door at 7.00am Monday morning sharp :driving:


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Tre-Cool
26-05-2013, 11:01 PM
What gearbox are you running...it hauls off the line!!!

mines still a factory 6l80 with a convertor.

markone2
27-05-2013, 09:54 PM
mines still a factory 6l80 with a convertor.

This I know...but my question was directed at Active, imho you have the quickest street driven A6 in Aus .

sportwagon
27-05-2013, 10:21 PM
The last time i spoke to ed from active was @the motorplex late last year and i think it was still a6 back then.

jaykay
29-05-2013, 08:31 PM
Can I ask ? :hide: A3 / A4 or A6.......if the later I'll be banging down your shop door at 7.00am Monday morning sharp :driving:


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http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fyoutu.be%2FqANyfbz_d6Q&h=MAQGwaahzAQFpHHgZHu36YnCHlSv7o5utatYowKdfgNaWhQ&s=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qANyfbz_d6Q&feature=youtu.be

jaykay
29-05-2013, 09:20 PM
Thanks Ed.....

markone2
29-05-2013, 09:25 PM
Ok I count 3 ..I was only asking.... but no-one wanted to reply :shock:

whitels1ss
29-05-2013, 09:29 PM
Ok I count 3 ..I was only asking.... but no-one wanted to reply :shock:

Yeah I counted the same Mark, I hope somebody can answer, I have been wondering as well?

jaykay
29-05-2013, 09:29 PM
Ok I count 3 ..I was only asking.... but no-one wanted to reply :shock:

I sent a message asking but didnt get a reply Mark......then I found the video on Facebook today

jaykay
29-05-2013, 09:51 PM
Ok I count 3 ..I was only asking.... but no-one wanted to reply :shock:

416 stroker with maggie 2300 and turbo 400....

markone2
29-05-2013, 10:10 PM
416 stroker with maggie 2300 and turbo 400....

Thankyou, .................

Tre-Cool
30-05-2013, 03:51 PM
416 stroker with maggie 2300 and turbo 400....

ah, so it's no longer a 6.2 now, well that makes me feel better about being a few mph slower. haha

markone2
30-05-2013, 06:23 PM
ah, so it's no longer a 6.2 now, well that makes me feel better about being a few mph slower. haha

. imho your still a mile in front with a car than can be driven from Perth to Brisbane in comfort , (without 500K worth of shares in Shell ) , ever tried an* instant up your 1/4 mile with a 2 / 3 speed Auto.*..I have and would never savage any VE of my own that way..an that’s coming from a 6K TC A4 convert.


Just my take ..keep it going mate , there is more than one Aus Tuner who has been left in your backwash via that A6 ...Damn fine thing your doing . :thumbsup:


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white lie
30-05-2013, 09:37 PM
416 stroker with maggie 2300 and turbo 400....

...And also up for sale.

jaykay
30-05-2013, 10:04 PM
...And also up for sale.

How much ?

white lie
30-05-2013, 11:53 PM
Couldn't tell you JK, I'm not in a position to make an enquiry. You'd have to speak to Ed ;)

50SHADES
27-08-2013, 06:21 PM
Eds GTS ran a 10.12@139mph with the A6 still in place with a stock converter and diff gears fitted

markone2
27-08-2013, 07:49 PM
Eds GTS ran a 10.12@139mph with the A6 still in place with a stock converter and diff gears fitted

No it Did Not .

Front the full build . / dyno slip + Time slip

Please , don't hide

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markone2
27-08-2013, 08:45 PM
Eds GTS ran a 10.12@139mph with the A6 still in place with a stock converter and diff gears fitted

Still waiting


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katlad
27-08-2013, 09:06 PM
Here is my last run @ Heathcote, nothing special about the e.t but the mph is awesome, had 3 runs in both lanes.

Ran 132mph, 132mph then 131mph.

Broke a rocker assembly & 2 valve springs on this pass.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/katlad/Heathcote7-7-2013_zpsbc8701ff.jpg (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/katlad/media/Heathcote7-7-2013_zpsbc8701ff.jpg.html)

Wonky
28-08-2013, 12:25 AM
Bugger about the damage though Paul! :nutkick:

katlad
28-08-2013, 08:52 AM
Bugger about the damage though Paul! :nutkick:

Yeah I know Wonky, coulda been worse & bent a valve, it was a $2,000 day as it was.

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 10:15 AM
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/edtime.jpg

Couldnt find the run from the following wednesday on my ipad, this is all I have.
Sorry for the delayed response princess i only log in once a day.

416ci LS3 stroker with a Magnuson 2300

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 11:51 AM
Still waiting


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Still waiting

Tre-Cool
28-08-2013, 02:31 PM
I finally managed to get my matching 17" ally rear drag rims for my ve ordered last week. so once the new season starts I'm hoping to get a high 9. new 3.27 diff and E85 tune, should see to it. :-)

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 02:34 PM
Only 1 week to go now! Cant wait

whitels1ss
28-08-2013, 03:04 PM
The suspense is killing me....:popcorn:
Only 1 week till what mate?:lmao:

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 03:06 PM
I finally managed to get my matching 17" ally rear drag rims for my ve ordered last week. so once the new season starts I'm hoping to get a high 9. new 3.27 diff and E85 tune, should see to it. :-)

Until the season starts ^

whitels1ss
28-08-2013, 03:09 PM
Only 1 week to go now! Cant wait
I just had a look at the car you just added to the "Garage" on here, I like the front grille, very unusual:goodjob:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/garage_vehicle.php?do=view_vehicle&id=121
I also saw your car on Active's facebook page as well, do you work there?
You seem to know a fair bit about them.

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 03:14 PM
I just had a look at the car you just added to the "Garage" on here, I like the front grille, very unusual:goodjob:
http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/garage_vehicle.php?do=view_vehicle&id=121
I also saw your car on Active's facebook page as well, do you work there?
You seem to know a fair bit about them.

I left a couple of months back and gone back to my trade. Awesome place to work, some amazing cars come out of there

whitels1ss
28-08-2013, 03:19 PM
I left a couple of months back and gone back to my trade. Awesome place to work, some amazing cars come out of there

Yeah they have a great reputation, I am sure they would.
I saw all your stuff was done there and I guessed.:lol:
So what are you doing now then? Another tuning shop?

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 03:23 PM
Yeah they have a great reputation, I am sure they would.
I saw all your stuff was done there and I guessed.:lol:
So what are you doing now then? Another tuning shop?

Nah back in the mining industry. Unfortunately not a lot of money to be made playing with cars lol

markone2
28-08-2013, 07:02 PM
Whilst there is no doubting your sincerity to those good folk who built and tuned your VE,( it’s all over the Net ) ,I believe your labouring under a grave misapprehension when it comes to what the VE 6 speed Auto can 60ft at on the stock converter , put in Layman terms a 1.61 60ft ,minus the services of a High Stall is but a flight of fancy imho, even allowing for the highly abbreviated time slip .

Most certainly beyond my humble reckoning given The Black Maloo requires the services of a 5K Vigilante in front of that same A6 …..Simply to run 1.7’s

There is a well Known VE A6 running 10.2’s over in WA……..might I suggest you ask the good chap what High Stall he utilizes ( for a damn near identical time slip) , for factory stock it is most certainly not. Not hard. He’s already posted in this thread.

ittwgn
28-08-2013, 08:18 PM
:popcorn: ...

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 08:21 PM
I'm telling you, that the GTS had a stock stall at the time of that time slip being printed, I can vouch for his having worked on the car, and driven many road km in that car also. I can also tell you that I have also driven 3 other Active blown combos at the drags with stock converters, all running in the 1.6s on radial tyres too champ.
Just because you find something impressive and hard to believe in your own small mind, does not mean the person PROVING these facts is a liar. Short of taking the gearboxes out of these cars to prove to someone on the other side of the country, I don't see what other evidence you need to see. I'm not here to defend myself (or eddy) for that matter to someone such as yourself. Would you like to see the other time slip of a stock 6.2 bottom end Maloo running 1.65 60 ft on radials? Or would you prefer to just call me a liar again and save me the hassle

ittwgn
28-08-2013, 08:24 PM
hahaha 60ft wars against markone2 bring it on !!!!

whitels1ss
28-08-2013, 08:27 PM
:popcorn: ...

:yup:I think we are going to have some entertainment this evening:lmao:

markone2
28-08-2013, 08:31 PM
I'm telling you, that the GTS had a stock stall at the time of that time slip being printed, I can vouch for his having worked on the car, and driven many road km in that car also. I can also tell you that I have also driven 3 other Active blown combos at the drags with stock converters, all running in the 1.6s on radial tyres too champ.
Just because you find something impressive and hard to believe in your own small mind, does not mean the person PROVING these facts is a liar. Short of taking the gearboxes out of these cars to prove to someone on the other side of the country, I don't see what other evidence you need to see. I'm not here to defend myself (or eddy) for that matter to someone such as yourself. Would you like to see the other time slip of a stock 6.2 bottom end Maloo running 1.65 60 ft on radials? Or would you prefer to just call me a liar again and save me the hassle

I can save save you all the hassles, simply get Active to post there build sheet and stand behind it, after 1400+ runs over 1/4 mile I am not stupid *50SHADES* Gav or what ever your moniker is ..can I ask..ever put your hands on the tools in the workshop sunshine?

As for 1.65 on Radials :rofl: try 1.41.....should have done your homework !!!!



:popcorn:

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50SHADES
28-08-2013, 08:44 PM
I never claimed 1.41? Maybe you should read my post again. I told you I regularly race an LS3 Maloo with a stock converter that runs 1.65 in the 60 foot on radials, a feat you previously claimed was " a flight of fancy imho"

If Active want to back this up to satisfy your criticisms is up to them, I no longer work there so cannot speak on their behalf.
Kudos to you for having raced before! I also have run in excess of 170 passes this year alone in over 10 different LS engined combos. This isnt to mention the amount of passes I have also done in the last 13 years i have competed. Unfortunately i havent bothered to count each time slip to back up a pointless internet argument. Clearly evidence isnt enough for you so this is where I bow out.

ittwgn
28-08-2013, 08:53 PM
so what are the secrets to get them to hook up so well with a stock stall in a fullish weight car ??!!!! many here would like to know !!!

SSZ.
28-08-2013, 08:58 PM
I was there that night and dam it flys...

Wow 1400+ passes didnt no how much you knew qas messured by how many runs you've done at the strip...

If thats how it works watch out cos ive done alot more than 1400

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 09:00 PM
From what i have experienced, the hi stall cars are too aggresive off the line with a hi stall, and near on impossible to hook up cleanly. The stock stall tends to "drive" alot better off the line, allowing the car to build speed before maximum torque comes in. The Maloo was simply a matter of traction off, leave it in D and drive it. No 2nd gear starts, no manual shifting

markone2
28-08-2013, 09:27 PM
From what i have experienced, the hi stall cars are too aggresive off the line with a hi stall, and near on impossible to hook up cleanly. The stock stall tends to "drive" alot better off the line, allowing the car to build speed before maximum torque comes in. The Maloo was simply a matter of traction off, leave it in D and drive it. No 2nd gear starts, no manual shifting

Thankyou for that :thumbsup: Never heard so much dribble since I 1st became a member here.perhaps you miss read my previous post, BUT its me who regularly pulls 1.4’s….NOT you………and all on MT Drag Radials

Observe...then perhaps you can give me some advise on how to launch a car driven to and from the track ....Gav

2521

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50SHADES
28-08-2013, 09:38 PM
hahaha guess what mate, the "dribble" you just read works, in fact it works well enough that some people find it hard to beleive :)
I never doubted the honesty of your times, nor do I care what you have run after 1400+ passes
I congratulate you on your 1.41 60 foot time well done! Your life is complete, I wont ask for your birth certificate or blood type before I believe your claims, or bring your honesty and integrity into question. I believe you have those bases more than covered!
Just for shits and giggles there is some proof of how well my dribble works, LS3 with cam upgrade and blower. No stall, no diff gears and 18 inch radials.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/5c77ad4bbe09ac6f69eb01b0092d0e4a.jpg

DaggaZ
28-08-2013, 09:48 PM
From what i have experienced, the hi stall cars are too aggresive off the line with a hi stall, and near on impossible to hook up cleanly. The stock stall tends to "drive" alot better off the line, allowing the car to build speed before maximum torque comes in. The Maloo was simply a matter of traction off, leave it in D and drive it. No 2nd gear starts, no manual shifting


Mark helped me setup my statesman for the strip.

After installing a high stall i managed to wipe of almost a full second of my 1/4 mile time.

As for the hi stall making it difficult for getting off the line what a crock of BS! if anything it makes it easier (with changed diff gears) as it doesn't try to chirp the wheels from the mismatch of rpm every gear change.

50SHADES
28-08-2013, 09:53 PM
an IRS car with nearly 600rwhp with 600ft/lb torqe on a radial tyre isnt going to hook up. A Magnuson 1900 blown L98 ute with a hi stall A6 ran 11.4 on 245 radials, swapped back to a stock stall ran 10.80.
Going by your logic are you saying the Maloo should run 9.5 with a hi stall?

markone2
28-08-2013, 09:55 PM
hahaha guess what mate, the "dribble" you just read works, in fact it works well enough that some people find it hard to beleive :)
I never doubted the honesty of your times, nor do I care what you have run after 1400+ passes
I congratulate you on your 1.41 60 foot time well done! Your life is complete, I wont ask for your birth certificate or blood type before I believe your claims, or bring your honesty and integrity into question. I believe you have those bases more than covered!
Just for shits and giggles there is some proof of how well my dribble works, LS3 with cam upgrade and blower. No stall, no diff gears and 18 inch radials.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/5c77ad4bbe09ac6f69eb01b0092d0e4a.jpg

Surely you must have asked yourself what the car was capable of with the correct set up?

ps.where is Active.........after all they do know your driveline setup

ps....I do admire you dedication to this thread after *Bowing out at 8.44pm *

Most Most admirable indeed.

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markone2
28-08-2013, 10:03 PM
an IRS car with nearly 600rwhp with 600ft/lb torqe on a radial tyre isnt going to hook up. A Magnuson 1900 blown L98 ute with a hi stall A6 ran 11.4 on 245 radials, swapped back to a stock stall ran 10.80.
Going by your logic are you saying the Maloo should run 9.5 with a hi stall?

so enlighten me . if a full weight 368rwkw ute can run 10.3's , then WFT is your 600rwhp driver playing at ????....FFKS my full weight L98 ute ran a 10.8 on 20 inch street boots , with plently of observers

SSZ.
28-08-2013, 11:03 PM
What is your problem markone2 can you not fatham the fact that someone else has achieved this time on a standard converter because you could not. just deal with the fact there are faster cars out there than yours.

Your not making yourself look any better by belittling someone elses knowlage because your insecure about your own achievements

SSZ.
28-08-2013, 11:10 PM
Nothing but a keyboard warrior

whitels1ss
29-08-2013, 05:58 AM
Nothing but a keyboard warrior

markone2 is nothing but a "keyboard warrior"?

I think you might find there would be quite number of people who have seen him do this stuff in real life quite a number of times
(in his own cars and he has also helped in the setting up of many other people's cars) who may not agree with you on that comment mate.;)

SSZ.
29-08-2013, 09:31 AM
Well good on him for that does he want a medal????

No one is questioning if he has done something that a bunch of ppl have done before.

What i am replying is that whilst infront of his keyboard he is quick to fire away and cut other people down on the achievements they have made or have proof that they have been involved with, but in real life face to face he would crawl back into his box.

Thinking he is atleast in his own mind still lord of all that is ls1.com.au wick is farkall

GTS_365
29-08-2013, 12:43 PM
So the last couple of pages has turned into a 1550kg L98 powered vu ute with a 6000rpm stall VERSUS a full weight stock stall VE HSV weighing almost 1900kg. They simply cannot be compared...350kg difference is always a .7 / 7 mph advantage.
A 1.6 60ft on a stock stall sounds very impressive though, that supercharger must make a lot of down low torque and lots of top end power. Well done.

GTS PAUL
19-09-2013, 04:26 PM
http://youtu.be/ArIZEd6xgGM

Last night at Willowbank ran a PB 11.56@125.75MPH on Street tyres.

Cheers Paul

whitels1ss
19-09-2013, 07:03 PM
Good work Paul:goodjob:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArIZEd6xgGM&feature=youtu.be



http://youtu.be/ArIZEd6xgGM

Last night at Willowbank ran a PB 11.56@125.75MPH on Street tyres.

Cheers Paul

mentallydull
04-10-2013, 12:36 AM
Anyone been running times at kwinana?

SSZ.
17-10-2013, 08:27 PM
seen eddy from actives running 10.9s in his vf gts last night

whitels1ss
17-10-2013, 08:37 PM
Here is a VF which has run a 10.37



http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UU6Q574rcsAviOMxjCwAUqbg&v=7OFZVpfO5NE

Tre-Cool
17-10-2013, 08:41 PM
if there running 134mph and crossing the line in 4th with 3.73's they must be doing some serious revs.

even mine at 136 with 3.46 gears is near on 6800rpm. thus i've gone to 3.23 gears.

im heading down next wednesday to see if i can get my 9.99 or flat 10.

SSZ.
18-10-2013, 06:35 PM
that is a workshop car from the shop over here that everyone knows and hates... formula tech

it has the built and blown motor out of one of his ve's in it so realy it would be a ve powered vf.

pritty sure it was a 427ci + blower and full slicks

SSZ.
18-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Brett is currently fighting for the record of biggest pole smoker in wa he is going head to head with faraone...

ittwgn
18-10-2013, 07:42 PM
farkin makes me laugh how the guy lines him up in the video like the pro's do just to run a mid 10 !!!!

Tre-Cool
18-10-2013, 08:58 PM
that is a workshop car from the shop over here that everyone knows and hates... formula tech

it has the built and blown motor out of one of his ve's in it so realy it would be a ve powered vf.

pritty sure it was a 427ci + blower and full slicks


haha. it's unfortunate i can't line him up on a waw due to him having his own lane. could show him what a little 6.2 can do.

VEJerry
20-10-2013, 08:07 PM
Car seems to run well...good job blokes.

I haven't read the thread but did see a bit of banter further up the page...that's a good ET for 134mph, i assume its fairly light?

I did see M12's comments and Mark whilst you certainly have a handle on how to get a good 60 out of the IRS cars wouldn't you agree its certainly easier with less power than more in some cases? These shitters aren't cut out for 1.4 60's with 600 rear wheel off the line...keen to hear your thoughts on this.

Tre-Cool
20-10-2013, 09:02 PM
Realised that with all my shit talking, I've never actualy posted my timeslips for all to see. So here we go.

http://www.torqueup.com.au/downloads/VESS/timeslip/ve-10.285.jpg
http://www.torqueup.com.au/downloads/VESS/timeslip/ve-10.270.jpg
http://www.torqueup.com.au/downloads/VESS/timeslip/ve-10.232.jpg

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 02:47 AM
Raised the bar a little higher last night, nearly got my 9 second pass. haha

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/VESS/timeslip/10.009.jpg

The_Senator
24-10-2013, 02:47 PM
10 THOUSANDTHS off a 9.999 pass... That's haulin ass!!

Congrats Dave... No one can knock that you've done it all yourself.. Got your hands drity, tuned and put serious numbers on the board..

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 03:24 PM
10 THOUSANDTHS off a 9.999 pass... That's haulin ass!!

Congrats Dave... No one can knock that you've done it all yourself.. Got your hands drity, tuned and put serious numbers on the board..

Cheers mate. I got the video online now. It would of been a 9 too but it just tagged the limiter on the 3-4 change.


http://youtu.be/Oz8IE2P-qF8

Wonky
24-10-2013, 03:28 PM
Fark that's quick! :bow::bow::bow:

team illucid
24-10-2013, 04:49 PM
How good does it sound too ... The whine is where it is at.

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 05:49 PM
Drivers view


http://youtu.be/YlKmWzLc2Lc

dyno junkie
24-10-2013, 06:53 PM
We'll done Dave, almost got that 9.

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 07:34 PM
We'll done Dave, almost got that 9.

Cheers. I think i now have the quickest stock 6l80 in australia, if not the world... I'm looking for other results. (not that it means anything of course) lol

Alex(AUS)
24-10-2013, 07:49 PM
Cheers. I think i now have the quickest stock 6l80 in australia, if not the world... I'm looking for other results. (not that it means anything of course) lol

Well done Dave!

Not using meth any more? How do you deal with the injector ECM limits?

Alex

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 08:38 PM
Well done Dave!

Not using meth any more? How do you deal with the injector ECM limits?

Alex

I removed the meth tank for the new surge tank and twin 044 setup. IAT's were a bit killer though, good thing is the e85 helps out a bunch anyway.

Injector limit is not really an issue. i just deal with the available spark map available, which is roughly half of what i had before. beefed up the numbers for the torque model calculations and away i went.

I've got a tip to try out to get some resolution back, but im not in a hurry to test it out yet.

sportwagon
24-10-2013, 08:52 PM
Raised the bar a little higher last night, nearly got my 9 second pass. haha

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/VESS/timeslip/10.009.jpg

Thats a certain 9 if you had the weather we had there last week and the track had some more rubber down for traction,well done dave are you still running the standard A6.

Tre-Cool
24-10-2013, 09:03 PM
yep, $1500 wrecker special. :-)

didnt even drop the oil out of it when i put it in. just topped the converter up.

white lie
24-10-2013, 09:50 PM
Well done Dave, just keeps getting better and better. Need a chute soon?

What size/type of injector do you run?

Tre-Cool
25-10-2013, 01:55 AM
Well done Dave, just keeps getting better and better. Need a chute soon?

What size/type of injector do you run?

needs a chute at 140mph. using xspurt 1000cc injectors

sportwagon
25-10-2013, 07:23 PM
If you go sub 10 wont they boot you dave ?.

Alex(AUS)
25-10-2013, 08:11 PM
I removed the meth tank for the new surge tank and twin 044 setup. IAT's were a bit killer though, good thing is the e85 helps out a bunch anyway.

Injector limit is not really an issue. i just deal with the available spark map available, which is roughly half of what i had before. beefed up the numbers for the torque model calculations and away i went.

I've got a tip to try out to get some resolution back, but im not in a hurry to test it out yet.

It would be good to see the fuel setup.

Which torque model calculation table are you referring to?

Alex

Tre-Cool
25-10-2013, 09:35 PM
It would be good to see the fuel setup.

Which torque model calculation table are you referring to?

Alex
in the ecu there are tables for torque calculation that affect the reported torque figure to the tcm. as my vve numbers are now half of normal values i need to essentially double them up and them some to get a decent reported figure.

Surge tank holds a good 6-8litres and has 2 x 044 pumps that feed a single -8 line.

http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/VESS/VE-Surge.JPG


If you go sub 10 wont they boot you dave ?.

That's the plan. then i dont need to take the car back. :-)

SSUte01
25-10-2013, 10:10 PM
Kudos! That's a brilliant effort. Out of interest, what sort of TCM reported shift times are you getting for the 1-2, 2-3 and 3-4 shifts.

Tre-Cool
26-10-2013, 03:20 AM
Kudos! That's a brilliant effort. Out of interest, what sort of TCM reported shift times are you getting for the 1-2, 2-3 and 3-4 shifts.

I work off the logs and the time it takes from the tcm reporting its changed gear to the rpm actually dropping. Generally around the .9 second mark.

I also launch in 2nd gear. 1st gear would be pointless.

one of my runs that night had me wheelspin off the line and go straight into 3rd gear and it still ran 10.9 @ 136. That'll teach me for trying to start my burnout in 3rd gear with the stock lsd.

SSUte01
26-10-2013, 08:57 AM
Again, well done. The 6L80E can be a very good thing when the effort is put in. Are you sure it's 0.9 sec, it sounds far quicker than that on the video, I would've thought more like 0.2 or better?

Tre-Cool
27-10-2013, 12:23 AM
Again, well done. The 6L80E can be a very good thing when the effort is put in. Are you sure it's 0.9 sec, it sounds far quicker than that on the video, I would've thought more like 0.2 or better?
Yeah 0.2 would be how quick it is. the 0.9 is the time reported in my logs from the point it says it's gone from say 3rd to 4th and the actual rpm dropping. the transition as it were from each gear is very quick.

What's also interesting is the fact that even though im doing 1.5 - 60's it's doing this without full throttle, as it appears the ESP system is pulling the throttle back.

Example: 10.009 Log
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/VESS/timeslip/10.009-log.JPG

Tre-Cool
27-10-2013, 12:34 AM
10.035 Run
http://www.vyssute.com/downloads/VESS/timeslip/10.035.png

50SHADES
05-12-2013, 09:21 AM
Had a successful night at WAW with my daily

12.610 @111.66mph
1.995 60ft

Pretty happy with full stereo, no cam or converter, 20`s
Confident of maybe another 1/10th just in the shift points

The_Senator
05-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Nice work, Gav.....

Less "dusty" track and some cool night air and that time will be better again..

SSZ.
05-12-2013, 01:26 PM
Do you didnt gav ...!!!STOP HIDING!!!. hahaha

good job mate.

Drizt
05-12-2013, 02:58 PM
Had a successful night at WAW with my daily

12.610 @111.66mph
1.995 60ft

Pretty happy with full stereo, no cam or converter, 20`s
Confident of maybe another 1/10th just in the shift points

What mods mate? Oh and car?

The_Senator
05-12-2013, 05:22 PM
Gav's car is a VE SS Series 2... Auto

OTR.. Tune.. Exhaust... That's it.

Drizt
05-12-2013, 06:22 PM
Damn, that is plenty rapid for those mods.

Wonky
05-12-2013, 11:06 PM
Damn, that is plenty rapid for those mods.

Agreed! Bloody quick! :burnout: What tyres as they obviously grip well! My cars have never cracked a sub 2.0 60ft, though I hope to whenever I end up going next with some MTs.

SSZ.
06-12-2013, 09:21 AM
Achilles ATR Sports. is what i put on it last time for him i think

The_Senator
06-12-2013, 10:33 AM
I too am running the ATR SPORTS and have a 1.9 60 footer.. For a cheaper tyre, they grip up really well...

Dave (tre-cool) also ran them on his VE to a get a 10s pass - so they can't be too bad!

Tre-Cool
06-12-2013, 01:00 PM
there are a surprisingly good tire for the price, they get real sticky on the dyno after a couple of pulls too.

my ve is retired from racing now, it's going back to stock to be sold. got 2 dedicated drag cars to finish off.

blackvussii
06-12-2013, 01:40 PM
I have them on my ute and reckon they are great for the money.

Rick Crawford, a tuner in the states who does a lot of work on G8s went 10.59 NA last week. He is a big advocate of small cams and has done a lot of R&D on l92 heads. Think his current one is around 223/231.

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DSrW _n_cFjOA&ei=dUWhUqDGHYirkQWtwoCYCg&usg=AFQjCNHijEphaIFAgafMIkVgEoi-a30qCA&bvm=bv.57155469,d.dGI

50SHADES
06-12-2013, 03:19 PM
Dave, were you running the older ATR sports or the Sport 2?
Looking forward to a night with a bit cooler air too, would be magic to see the mph in the 112`s

sportwagon
06-12-2013, 07:43 PM
there are a surprisingly good tire for the price, they get real sticky on the dyno after a couple of pulls too.

my ve is retired from racing now, it's going back to stock to be sold. got 2 dedicated drag cars to finish off.

Have you given up on that 9 dave after coming so close.

Tre-Cool
06-12-2013, 07:52 PM
Have you given up on that 9 dave after coming so close.

same motor is going into a ve dragcar shell, just not made my mind up on keeping it blown or going turbo's. have told my brother that if he builds a 402 for his ve, he can use my blower. (car is at my place anyway, so i can drive it. hehe)

Xjas
08-12-2013, 08:32 PM
Finally got my lazy ass to the test and tune today at Eastern Creek.

Ran a best of 12.763@113mph, pretty happy with the result since I haven't drag raced for nearly 10 years and its my first time racing a manual.

Car specs are;
Full weight 2008 VE SSV M6
VCM OTR, 214/225 cam, headers, cats and a 2.5 inch cat back with stock rear cans, 10% UDP, everything else stock including clutch.
Bridgestone Potenza 245/40/19 tyres.

Should also add the car has XA coilovers.

Wonky
09-12-2013, 04:52 PM
Dave, were you running the older ATR sports or the Sport 2?

+1

In my reading on reviews on them they're not generally regarded as a good performance tyre, but I guess stickiness for drags and performance are two different things? :confused:

Tre-Cool
09-12-2013, 05:00 PM
mine are the original ATR Sport.

mentallydull
21-12-2013, 05:13 PM
I ran a bunch of 12.7s @ 181kmh at WAW a few days ago and was pretty happy with my gear shifts and consistent times. It was 22 deg with a 5kt breeze that night and my best is a 12.607 on a 24 deg night with a similarly shit 2.1 60fter.

2009 Ve ss manual Ute with the ssv 19s on it. 315rwkw last time it was on the dyno. It has king super low springs in the front and just lows in the rear with the matching Monroe shocks. The rear springs are NOT the load bearing heavy duty option.

My 60s were pretty much all 2.1s and I'm really struggling to find any extra speed in my launch. What 60ft times r achievable for my car at full weight 1770kg on Kumho ku39 tyres? Through reading in hear, 1.8 and 1.9s shouldnt be hard? I've done a few 2.0s but they r few and far between.

Thoughts and personal experience from guys running street tyres (standard 245s) on a Ve ss ute?

Wonky
21-12-2013, 07:15 PM
My A6 ute with approx 280rwkw has never done a sub 2 sec 60ft due to wheelspin. Admittedly in getting on for 5 years it's only been to the track (Heathcote) twice. First time pre cam with 260rwkw running on new Falken Azeni 245/18" (supposedly semi slicks) it did a best 60ft of 2.02 with a number of 2.02x/2.03x/2.04x 60ft and a worst of 2.18 in about 10 runs, though I suspect I may have "forgotten" a run or two. :D Best run of 12.83@111.6mph.

Next time was on half worn Bridgestone VE SS 18" tyres with small cam into a headwind with almost identical results (12.83 @ 111.?mph) then 2 runs with my road tyres (Kumho KU31 275/30/20) which gave me a 12.96 (I think) but at 114.?mph. 60 footers on the Bridgies were again 2.02/03 at best from memory and worse with the 20s obviously (don't remember what though). It was spinning tyres most/all the way through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and even on the change to 4th! :eek:

I've had some MT E/T Streets for about 6 months now so must get to Calder soon (apparently much grippier track) to try them - will hopefully then get a sub 2 sec 60!

macca_779
21-12-2013, 07:48 PM
My A6 ute with approx 280rwkw has never done a sub 2 sec 60ft due to wheelspin. Admittedly in getting on for 5 years it's only been to the track (Heathcote) twice. First time pre cam with 260rwkw running on new Falken Azeni 245/18" (supposedly semi slicks) it did a best 60ft of 2.02 with a number of 2.02x/2.03x/2.04x 60ft and a worst of 2.18 in about 10 runs, though I suspect I may have "forgotten" a run or two. :D Best run of 12.83@111.6mph.

Next time was on half worn Bridgestone VE SS 18" tyres with small cam into a headwind with almost identical results (12.83 @ 111.?mph) then 2 runs with my road tyres (Kumho KU31 275/30/20) which gave me a 12.96 (I think) but at 114.?mph. 60 footers on the Bridgies were again 2.02/03 at best from memory and worse with the 20s obviously (don't remember what though). It was spinning tyres most/all the way through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and even on the change to 4th! :eek:

I've had some MT E/T Streets for about 6 months now so must get to Calder soon (apparently much grippier track) to try them - will hopefully then get a sub 2 sec 60!

Wonk have you ever dropped your pressures? To give you an idea. I picked up 4 tents at Temora when I dropped mine from 42 to 30

Wonky
21-12-2013, 10:07 PM
Wonk have you ever dropped your pressures? To give you an idea. I picked up 4 tents at Temora when I dropped mine from 42 to 30

We were running around 20psi from memory.

mentallydull
22-12-2013, 03:28 AM
My A6 ute with approx 280rwkw has never done a sub 2 sec 60ft due to wheelspin. Admittedly in getting on for 5 years it's only been to the track (Heathcote) twice. First time pre cam with 260rwkw running on new Falken Azeni 245/18" (supposedly semi slicks) it did a best 60ft of 2.02 with a number of 2.02x/2.03x/2.04x 60ft and a worst of 2.18 in about 10 runs, though I suspect I may have "forgotten" a run or two. :D Best run of 12.83@111.6mph.

Next time was on half worn Bridgestone VE SS 18" tyres with small cam into a headwind with almost identical results (12.83 @ 111.?mph) then 2 runs with my road tyres (Kumho KU31 275/30/20) which gave me a 12.96 (I think) but at 114.?mph. 60 footers on the Bridgies were again 2.02/03 at best from memory and worse with the 20s obviously (don't remember what though). It was spinning tyres most/all the way through 1st, 2nd, 3rd and even on the change to 4th! :eek:

I've had some MT E/T Streets for about 6 months now so must get to Calder soon (apparently much grippier track) to try them - will hopefully then get a sub 2 sec 60!

Cheers for your thoughts Wonky. I have been running my rears at 28psi then dropping to 26psi with no great 60ft times thus far. Next time I will start at 30psi and see how i get along. My car is manual also which throws a huge amount into it in terms of getting it off the line. So easy to either bog it down or just light it up. It's hard to get that perfect medium.

On another note, if you are spinning your tyres through all the gears Im sure you would pick up oodles of time by not letting that happen. If I let mine bog down in 1st gear, it will not spin up other than a chirp into 2nd and my car has 315rwkw. Plenty of grip at the track however on the street, depending on the road quality, it will light them up at about 4000rpm in 1st.

Drizt
22-12-2013, 08:09 AM
Wonky perhaps you need Chevs to change the auto tune to prevent / lessen the wheel spin between ever change.

50SHADES
06-01-2014, 05:43 PM
Dropped my PB again at the FAST Saturday meeting. My ATR sports are pretty much shagged now. Last run was in 20 degree heat.

12.57@111.11mph with a 1.960 60 foot time

Still unopened A6 L77, OTR and full exhaust, GTS diff. Full weight (stereo on board, spare, 3/4 tank) makes 280rwkw

hyperss82
18-04-2014, 08:40 AM
Ok so first time out with new set up ve ss ute
Head and cam t400 4500 stall and 3.7 gears
Ran a best of 11.8@114
More in it with a 1.8 60ft
Just need to sort shifts out I think it's ruining my mph

50SHADES
08-09-2014, 12:55 PM
Recently had the Alcohol table trimmed in my VE Flex Fuel. Running United E85.
Made similar rwhp as before (370rwhp) but gained a bit of torque in the mid range (2500-4500)

Ran another PB of 12.48@109mph
60ft 1.90

Still unopened L77 auto, full weight, cheap 275/30 R20s and 3.7s

50SHADES
12-09-2014, 10:11 AM
Another PB. Added a Hi Stall from Allfast over the weekend. Made an awesome difference to the 60ft. Run was with 245/40 R18 Et Street Radials
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/IMG_20140910_222347.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/2flygav/media/IMG_20140910_222347.jpg.html)

dyno junkie
20-09-2014, 07:44 PM
Ok so first time out with new set up ve ss ute
Head and cam t400 4500 stall and 3.7 gears
Ran a best of 11.8@114
More in it with a 1.8 60ft
Just need to sort shifts out I think it's ruining my mph




Why would you put a three clunker into a fairly standard late model car?

whi739
23-09-2014, 10:21 PM
Why would you put a three clunker into a fairly standard late model car?

Chucking a th400 (3 speed clunker) even in the most basic package can make it an animal.

I changed to a 3speed a few years ago in my VE, cam only 6ltr and ran 11.2's@123 which I thought was a pretty great bang for buck mod.

Still have a 3speed in it now with a 403ci GTX45 and have seen a best of 9.7 @ 149 with a lazy 1.75 60ft and weighing 1920kg.

So a converter and th400 can really get them moving.

Sometimes the older tougher stuff just cant be beaten.

dyno junkie
27-09-2014, 09:23 PM
There are several low to mid 10 second VE's still using the factory A6.
I do understand the need to change out gearboxes in high powered cars but not in 10-11 second street cars!

katlad
28-09-2014, 08:06 PM
Haven't posted in this thread for a while.

Ran a pb a few months ago.

11.1 @ 126mph.

Since then my bog stock 6l80e has given up after 7 years & 9 months.

Ran this time with stock 6l80e, 3000 converter, stock 2.92 diff, stock shocks & ET's.

Car is making 456rwkw on e85, still need a touch better 60ft for a 10, but with a built trans I think it should do it.

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w277/katlad/Calder260514_zpsdb996bca.jpg (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/katlad/media/Calder260514_zpsdb996bca.jpg.html)

Here it is, last run against the blue ute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSJ7fCgG-E&feature=player_embedded

whitels1ss
28-09-2014, 08:47 PM
Haven't posted in this thread for a while.

Ran a pb a few months ago.

11.1 @ 126mph.

Since then my bog stock 6l80e has given up after 7 years & 9 months.

Ran this time with stock 6l80e, 3000 converter, stock 2.92 diff, stock shocks & ET's.

Car is making 456rwkw on e85, still need a touch better 60ft for a 10, but with a built trans I think it should do it.

Love your work mate:goodjob:

Wonky
28-09-2014, 09:48 PM
Awesome Paul!! :bow: :bow: :bow:

50SHADES
30-09-2014, 02:08 PM
2 weeks ago fitted a largish cam and DOD delete kit, touched up the heads slightly. Fitted a FAST 102 and Nick Williams 102 TB. E85 tune
First pass was 11.52@117.8mph. Every run after that the shifts were starting to flare and could not nail a decent pass.
Trans is getting some attention now, tempted to drop back to 3.45 diff gears to save the 4-5 shift before the line.


http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/20140917_220849_1.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/2flygav/media/20140917_220849_1.jpg.html)

whi739
04-10-2014, 11:43 AM
Took the VE ute down last weekend after getting it all ANDRA tech'd however only was allowed one full pass as I hadn't got my ANDRA licence yet.

Still very happy with a new PB of 9.5 @ 148.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUH7xTnLUBY&feature=youtu.be

GTX45 - VE SSV ute, Full weight(4300lb) 403ci LQ9, Standard L98 heads,
GTX45 turbo, 4" dump to twin 3", Th400 auto, TCE converter, 3.27 diff gears - 800rwhp+

jc_sv8
19-10-2014, 11:55 PM
Has to be seen to be believed...

262mph on what has to be called a wet track!

w3D1OBSExas

Wonky
19-10-2014, 11:59 PM
Faaaaaaaaaaaark!!!!!!!!!! Not really a VE though. :)

Xjas
23-10-2014, 02:11 PM
Ran a new personal best for this car last night at WSID.

12.589@115mph, 1.91 sixty footer.

VE SSV M6, full weight including half tank of fuel and full size spare.
Full exhaust, OTR with MAF, 217/225 camshaft, 4.10 gears and a truetrac.
Bridgestone potenza tyres at 34psi.

GTS_215
29-10-2014, 11:24 AM
Took my VE GTS LS2 A6 to Calder a few weeks back in street trim. It has 1 3/4 4 into 1 Hurricane extractors, 100cpi cats and some crappy twin 2.5" catback, VCM OTR (with the MAF) and a tune by Millsy.

60ft 2.027
ET 13.12
MPH 108.6

I only had two good runs, the other being 13.15 at 108.4mph. It will be fitted with a small cam in a few weeks and will head back to hopefully break into the 12's.

debencha
02-11-2014, 01:31 AM
took my ute to heathcote last sunday it has hsv headers xforce 2 1/2 and duss otr .oztrack mail order tune auto 08
13.66 at 105 mph .2.1, 60 foot ,happy enough with that

50SHADES
14-11-2014, 11:26 AM
I figured on Wednesday I would give street tyres a shot at the Motorplex. Cheap and nasty Doublestar 275/30 R20`s and ran 11.990 first pass
http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z139/2flygav/20141112_181216.jpg (http://s188.photobucket.com/user/2flygav/media/20141112_181216.jpg.html)

sportwagon
14-11-2014, 04:38 PM
Thats a good 60 foot time for streeters,well done

Xjas
20-11-2014, 08:02 AM
Ran another personal best last night at WSID with the addition of some drag radials.
12.288@114mph, 1.80 sixty footer.

Although I was eventually hoping to get the car into the 11s I dont think its going to happen without adding more power, the only other left I can do is remove some weight, I can maybe remove 80-100kgs but that wont be enough I think.


VE SSV M6, full weight including quater tank of fuel and 2 full size spares (I have to swap to drag radials at the track).
Full exhaust, OTR with MAF, 217/225 camshaft, 4.10 gears and a truetrac.
M&H 245/45/17 drag radials at 23psi.

Tre-Cool
22-11-2014, 11:09 AM
I did this one a few weeks ago in my dad's old car I tuned for the new owner.
VE SS A6
1.8 - 60"
11.2 @ 124mph

Stock Convertor, 2.92 diff. has a Cam & MP2300

http://youtu.be/fCwYhvpgais

lmoengnr
22-11-2014, 02:48 PM
I did this one a few weeks ago in my dad's old car I tuned for the new owner.
VE SS A6
1.8 - 60"
11.2 @ 124mph

Stock Convertor, 2.92 diff. has a Cam & MP2300

http://youtu.be/fCwYhvpgais

Very impressive!

Xjas
05-03-2018, 07:39 PM
2010 VE GXP Maloo LS3 A6.

12.556 at 114mph (in the right lane, it only does 112 in the left for some reason), 1.93 60 foot.
DA; 1000ft.

Mods;
3.45 diff, OTR, LS7 MAF, deep trans pan and a tune, on drag radials. Stock everything else including exhaust and convertor.
Car weight;
4000lbs including driver and half a tank of fuel, no spare.

More to come, my trans tune is a little off still.

Xjas
24-05-2018, 10:01 AM
Got down to the track again last night, it was super busy and the workshop wars crap ment I was only able to get 3 runs in but still managed a new PB for the GXP.

12.34@115, 1.91 sixty foot, same mods as above.

Cooler air and faster gears shifts certainly helped, I think thats as fast I can get it to go with the current mods, will have to get orgainsed and do a cam and exhaust over the winter.

QIKMIK
12-07-2018, 06:55 AM
NSW Owner's Club hosted a private drag day last Sunday. Managed to reel off 27 runs without incident.

5417

The best was 12.734@113.26mph with a 60' of 1.985. Full weight VE Senator Signature with DUS OTR, JTG LPG system, HM 1 7/8" headers, 200CPI cats, HM 2.5" bi-modal on street rubber (Kuhmo KU39@25psi). All tuned by Luis at APS in Frankston.

Mick

whitels1ss
12-07-2018, 02:34 PM
Far out.... 27 runs in one day is a huge number :shock:

The car looks great Mick! :cheers:

Xjas
23-05-2019, 12:29 PM
2010 GXP Maloo A6.

Now has heads, cam, converter, throttle body and manifold, DPE exhaust.
Still weighs 4000lbs.
Made 486rwhp.

First trip to the track with this combo and only got two full runs in for the night, best was 11.46@122 with heaps more in it, could only manage a 1.700 60 foot.

Xjas
20-11-2019, 06:22 PM
2010 GXP Maloo ute.

Same mods as above with added wave track diff and POS stall converter adjusteded up in rpm.

11.30 at 121. 1.67 60 foot.

Conveter was built for my combo to be 4500, turned out to be stalling at 3400, had it adjusted by 800 rpm and it now stalls at 3700, think it might be scrap metal and I'll try someone else.

Wonky
21-11-2019, 04:50 PM
What brand converter? I'll possibly always stick to stock converter for my needs as a daily but just in case want to know what brands to avoid. :)

That's a decent 60 ft! What tyres?

Xjas
22-11-2019, 07:41 PM
Its a Dominator converter, very disappointed in it.

I think the sixty foot is rubbish, this combo should be capable of low 1.6s or even high 1.5s with the correct stall speed, the tyres are M&H 275/50R17, they are 28 inches tall so they are a track only deal as they send the ABS nuts but with the right tyre pressure it dead hooks every time.