Red Light\ Speed Camera Combos - Listing of the first 50.

[Raptor6L]

Hi All

Here's a listing of the first 50 Red Light cameras that will be upgraded to also be Speed Cameras. I can't seem to find any info to say whether or not there will be the usual 3 posted signs before these fixed speed cameras or not?
http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/ab207/Raptor60L/RedLightSpeedCameras.jpg

Here's the link (http://www.smh.com.au/national/red-light-cameras-to-be-updated-20091123-iz8d.html) for the full article in SMH.

I know for sure that the one on Pennant Hills Rd is up and running as i've had two drivers tell me that the flash went off when they went thru the intersection. I'm assuming that they were just testing as neither has seen a fine as yet.

Cheers
Chris

[kompiler]

Do the speed camera portion of these only activate on Orange/Red lights or are they active 100% of the time.

The article didn't seem to clarify this.

Cheers
Komp

[Raptor6L]

I'm under the impression that they are on 100% of the time, so if you speed thru a green light - you get done. Having said that i can't seem to find anything in print to say that that is the case. If it is i believe they also need to erect 3 speed camera signs in the lead up to the camera position, but like i said in the op, can't find info on that either. :confused:


Cheers
Chris

[Namheul]

We recently got one of these near our house (in VIC) and it is active 100% of the time. I got flashed going through it, but no fine.

[Hi Octane]

The camera listed @ Caringbah has'nt been there for about 3 years....

[Raptor6L]

The camera listed @ Caringbah has'nt been there for about 3 years....

Gannon's Rd........umm, yeah it has....and still is. I live right near it.
It's positioned near the Mobil servo.

[BECAUZ]

may as well say goodbye to my license now.

[Buckd1ch]

I always thought orange light meant back to 2nd and floor it:1peek:. Going to be a hard habit to break :P

[theVman]

I always thought orange light meant back to 2nd and floor it:1peek:. Going to be a hard habit to break :P


It will catch a lot of people out thats for sure.

Interesting idea - has merit I guess as some of the infrastructure is there mind you still lots of work to get operational unless they dont have to cut the road up anymore.

[Moodles]

How much over the limit do you have to be to get a speed ticket with these cameras?

[HSV Listy]

They have them up here. Speed and red light. They are on speed alert all the time and active on orange for the red light camera part.
Not that it makes a shread of difference up here as most cars doing the wrong thing are not registered and the people driving them dont pay anyway.
I do hope it works and people do start learning

In Darwin this is what traffic lights mean

Green go as fast and as close to the car in front to try and get through the light
Orange means green so you just do as per above,
Red means better think about slowing down but, oh bugger it she will be right so keep going and wait for the red light camera bill and not pay it,
3 or so seconds of red means, I better stop because the car in front of me has stopped
Then Red light to Green means give way to the other people going through the Red light from the other lanes. Give way to the red light runners and not to the right.

Per speed/red light camaera they get on average 60 speeders a day and 80 red light runners.
There are huge signs up yet people just keep going through without a care in the world.
I can not remember exactly the numbers caught but it was in the NT news not long ago. I could be a bit out but I am accurate with what the lights mean

[Hi Octane]

Gannon's Rd........umm, yeah it has....and still is. I live right near it.
It's positioned near the Mobil servo.



Shows how much care i take, Ah well hav'nt had a fine yet so must be driving ok....

[BECAUZ]

Is the very first location , Cumberland hwy - St Johns Rd , Canley Heights up and running yet? Or the Cumberland Hwy - Cabramatta rd west , Cabramatta West.?

Im worried I may have gone through it on a yellow a little over the speed limit which i think was 70 on the way to dus'.

[Raptor6L]

Is the very first location , Cumberland hwy - St Johns Rd , Canley Heights up and running yet? Or the Cumberland Hwy - Cabramatta rd west , Cabramatta West.?

Im worried I may have gone through it on a yellow a little over the speed limit which i think was 70 on the way to dus'.

Canley Heights is on, the rest are on trial.

Article1 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/traffic-cameras-in-tight-focus-across-nsw/story-e6freuy9-1225822332574)
Article2 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/its-a-tax-on-stupidity-and-plenty-are-going-to-pay-it/story-e6frezz0-1225822291382)

[BECAUZ]

Canley Heights is on, the rest are on trial.

Article1 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/traffic-cameras-in-tight-focus-across-nsw/story-e6freuy9-1225822332574)
Article2 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/opinion/its-a-tax-on-stupidity-and-plenty-are-going-to-pay-it/story-e6frezz0-1225822291382)

Wouldnt be any other way. The one i think i may have gone through and its the only operational one.

Thanks for the bad news raptor. Fingers crossed!:hide:

[BOOGER]

They're a bloody stupid idea and no more than a revenue raiser I’ll give you one example why which actually happened to me. I had a green light and proceeding through the intersection, out of the corner of my eye I noticed a car come at the intersection pretty fast on the red. I turned to look and thought nup, he’s not stopping so floored it to get through. Sure enough he didn’t stop, straight through the red. Luckily he missed, just. Had there be a red light/speed camera there I would have been done speeding and for what, saving my own life. No amount of cameras would have stopped that accident had I not sped up.

[M&Ms]

Is the very first location , Cumberland hwy - St Johns Rd , Canley Heights up and running yet? Or the Cumberland Hwy - Cabramatta rd west , Cabramatta West.?

Im worried I may have gone through it on a yellow a little over the speed limit which i think was 70 on the way to dus'.

I can tell you the Cumberland Hwy one is up and running... I know someone who's just lost the last points on his licence because of it, and is now without a licence for 3 months (Now has to use Sydney's hopeless public transport network to get to work)

Welcome to Nazi Australia, 2010 everyone!!!!!:flipoff:

[SS Enforcer]

The one at Beecroft rd and the Pacific hwy will become a new record earner I predict. It is just 6 metres past the school zone which begins right at the lights. Just before xmas hols I watched as nearly every car passing got knocked off for speeding as it's comming from a 70 zone into a 40 right at the traffic lights going downhill. Come the start of the new school year it won't be long before every car that regularly goes past it will get pinged.

cheers

[fireguard]

Why get so worried about these speed cameras, simple fact is, if you are not speeding you won't get done.

there should not be a need to speed through the intersection at all, when the light turns orange you either have enough distance to stop safely or to get through without speeding.

And it is not just revenue raising, how many accidents occur when a person runs a red light whilst speeding through, i know quite a few did in Adelaide when i was living there!

[BOOGER]

Why get so worried about these speed cameras, simple fact is, if you are not speeding you won't get done.

there should not be a need to speed through the intersection at all, when the light turns orange you either have enough distance to stop safely or to get through without speeding.

And it is not just revenue raising, how many accidents occur when a person runs a red light whilst speeding through, i know quite a few did in Adelaide when i was living there!

I'll refer you back to my post a few posts back. These cameras are supposed to keep us safe and keep us from killing ourselves, apparently there's no such thing as safe speeding. If I'd heeded this BS advise I would have had some halfwit t-bone me. As you say, a lot of people die as a Consequence of speeding through a red light but how many people have saved themselves by speeding to avoid a collision?

[Drumo]

Is the very first location , Cumberland hwy - St Johns Rd , Canley Heights up and running yet? Or the Cumberland Hwy - Cabramatta rd west , Cabramatta West.?

Im worried I may have gone through it on a yellow a little over the speed limit which i think was 70 on the way to dus'.

Cumberland Hwy/St Johns Rd is definately operational. Guy in front of me got done coupla weeks ago.

[fireguard]

I'll refer you back to my post a few posts back. These cameras are supposed to keep us safe and keep us from killing ourselves, apparently there's no such thing as safe speeding. If I'd heeded this BS advise I would have had some halfwit t-bone me. As you say, a lot of people die as a Consequence of speeding through a red light but how many people have saved themselves by speeding to avoid a collision?

SO because you avoided ONE collision everyone should speed through intersections to possibly avoid a crash, yeah great advice right there....

[BOOGER]

SO because you avoided ONE collision everyone should speed through intersections to possibly avoid a crash, yeah great advice right there....

I think you've completely missed the point but I'm sure your attitude will change when you see someone driving straight at your drivers door!!

[VYTonne]

Trouble is most State Govts are looking for quick fixes & like to be seen as doing something...Most of us wise to that they do F**k all & look for an easy money spinner @ the motorist expense..too easy. None of these fixtures have saved any lives on our roads cause most that do don't have any regard to rules or regs. anyhooow.
When will most wake & realize more road users need better services, slower the speed more gridlock..shouldn't we be moving our motorists through the cities & suburbs more freely without restriction? How much are these problems costing both industry & the end users trying to do their jobs in earning a living? :flipoff:

Cheers
VYT

[kpop]

would like to check back in 12 months and see if the crash stats had dropped, and if not, would they remove the cameras since they do nothing. i bet not.

[SS Enforcer]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/traffic-cameras-in-tight-focus-across-nsw/story-e6freuy9-1225822332574

A NEW digital "safety camera" being trialled in Sydney is catching speeding motorists once every four minutes.
The Daily Telegraph yesterday observed 13 drivers being photographed for speeding at the intersection of Pennant Hills Rd and Beecroft Rd, Pennant Hills between midday and 1pm.

In fact, there were eight vehicles snapped by the camera in just 19 minutes, between 12.41pm and 1pm.
...

Thats the one I mentioned earlier once the school zone is operational it will nick EVERY car comming down the hill into the school zone.

[bad88u]

will all these red light speed cameras be updated on the gps (navman) maps like the fixedspeed cameras?

[Highway]

Anyone know out of all the GPS brands available which one has the most regular updates for red light/speed cameras ?

I think I will have to upgrade from my old one very soon.

Mike

[aw55um]

ive seen a few pretty bad accidents from people realising there is a speed camera and quickly jumping on the brakes (if they didnt they probably would have still legally went through the intersection) and causing big rear enders, about 5 cars slamming into eachother all because one guy panicked. That is just as dangerous as going through a redish light. IMO. but it dosn't make money for the government so they dont care.

[jrckelley]

To all that say, "if your not speeding you dont have any thing to worry about".

How do you know your not speeding??? by looking at the speedo right. Going through a intersection (traficlights ) is probably not the best time to be looking at the speedo to make sure your not doing 6kmh over the limit (60mkh is safe but 66 isnt???)) - looking at the intersection would be a safer idea.

if a road needs a speed camera, put in a speed camera, away from the intersection and sign post it (so people slow down - thats the idea right?)

[vedelta]

Picton Road the stretch connecting Wollongong to the Hume Highway deserves to be on that list. With frequent accidents causing fatalities due mainly to speeding, they should install speed cameras at each 2km posts to stop the carnage once and for all. Sounds crazy though at least people will pay attention and for those speeding will PAY dearly. They proposed to lower speed limits from 100km/h to 90km/h but even that won't stop people from speeding.

[SS Enforcer]

ive seen a few pretty bad accidents from people realising there is a speed camera and quickly jumping on the brakes (if they didnt they probably would have still legally went through the intersection) and causing big rear enders, about 5 cars slamming into eachother all because one guy panicked. That is just as dangerous as going through a redish light. IMO. but it dosn't make money for the government so they dont care.

I have stomped on the picks in a petrol tanker and swung the trailer around almost 90* to avoid a red light snap. On quite a few occaisons I have had cars nearly hit me after I jump on the brakes on the amber especially in a B Double apparently the beak doesn't care if the truck is 25 metres long if you drag your trailer across on the red you get nicked. So most drivers I know go steady through intersections and always stop on the amber even if it causes an accident.

cheers

[VYTonne]

Besides School zones I fail to see any valid point installing these devices, to mine it hasn't proved it can save a life.
There will always be morons with no regard for the law & be snapped by these all day.:flipoff:

Cheers
VYT

[DuffMan]

yes, something must be done to stop these crazy, out of control motorists who contributed to the second LOWEST road toll in 60(?) years for 2009 :confused:

I'm sure giving motorist yet another thing to concentrate on instead of the road ahead will work out just swell. Instead of going with the general flow of traffic, you have to have your eyes glued to your speedo, the traffic lights and the cars around and ahead of you.

Given the already sub-standard skills of many Sydney drivers, I'm sure this will work out well. Good job state government :goodjob:

[saaz]

Anyone know out of all the GPS brands available which one has the most regular updates for red light/speed cameras ?

I think I will have to upgrade from my old one very soon.

Mike

Laser Navig8r range has Speedalert, which is usually updated monthly, and you can report new cameras and other chnages online for the next update. harvey Norman has then, at the moment they are on special, sometimes as low as $90.

[V6Sucka]

In some way, I can only see these as being a good thing.
Primarily for the simple reason being, that so many damn people run red lights these days.
Is their bloody time more important than anybody else's that they have to run the reds, thus delaying traffic from the opposite direction.
I've sat at lights that have barely allowed 3 cars across, not because of short changing, but because of vehicles running the red.

It's bloody annoying.