Which break pads. Bendix Stealth or Ferodo Formula's.

[Francis knight0]

Hi guy's just wondering if anyone has any good or bad thoughts about either going Bendix or Ferodo.

I was going to try the Bendix Stealth or Ferodo Formula's.

Just after a higher quality street style pad but not sure what the general thoughts are on each one.

[GenReaper]

Bendix are the go, depends on your driving style to what pad.

Ultimates are for higher speed stopping power at higher temps.

Titanium strip heavy duty would be the best bet.
Easy to bed in and work great, i would recommend these and use them on my own car.

[Nidz]

Never seen Bendix Stealth's until now.. Checked out the site.

http://www.bendix.com.au/StealthAdvancedTechnology.aspx

Are they much better than Ultimates? Cost much more? They sposed to be quieter and less dust..

[Stelth]

The Ferodo 2500 pad is designed for track and road and i would think a much higher performing pad then anything Bendix had to offer.

[Ron SS]

For good road pads, hard to go passed the QFM-HPX pad. No dust, no squeal, great stopping, and combined with better brake fluid, has good fade resistance. Flyer here: http://www.qfm.com.au/images/QFMFlyer.pdf

[LS1 VT]

The bendix stealth pads are just an updated CT pad designed for everyday driving. minimal dust usually pretty quiet and sold at the same price as CT's were being sold at. i think you will find the formulas will be more expensive as they are a performance based pad they will be a bit harder and possibly a little bit noisy. i guess you need to consider what you do with the car. do you tow a trailer? do you drive it hard? personal opinion for a street car that is driven normally would be the bendix pads

[Jarhead]

The Ferodo 2500 pad is designed for track and road and i would think a much higher performing pad then anything Bendix had to offer.

+1

Bendix ultimates are crap. There simply is no other way of describing them. The problem is that Bendix is the major supplier to many franchised brake outlets and their marketing is very good - much, much better then their product.

If you are chasing a pad for everyday driving then the titanium strip Bendix will do the job. For ANY type of performance driving I would stay clear of Bendix pads altogether. Excessive brake dust, torturous squeal, warping rotors - these are all the joys awaiting those that use ultimates. I have had the misfortune of using them on 2 cars. I thought the first was a one-off bad experience. Fool me twice, shame on me!

The Ferodo formula 2500 or even 2000 are significantly better then Ultimates. I had a set of Ultimates on my XY GT and I cringed every time they squealed. The brake shop replaced them for free the first time and the second pair did the same thing. These were with new DBA 5000 rotors so it wasn't a case of new pads on old rotors. The second set were just as bad after a few hundred k's. I had the national sales manager for Bendix personally inspect my car the second time. I got my money back on the pads and labour but I still couldn't tolerate the squeal.

I can't emphasise this enough. Use EBC greens or reds, Ferodo 2000 or 2500. The reds and 2500 are more for semi track/street. They will require some heat in them before they operate at 100% efficiency. Even if the sales guy offers you the Ultimates for FREE, turn him down and buy EBC or Ferodo - the difference really is that big.

One final thing - every time the topic of brake pads comes up there are invariably some people that say they use Ultimates and they find them good. These people do not drive/brake hard enough to warrant performance brakes. If they did the Ultimates would glaze up and squeal like a stuck pig.

Good luck with your choice.
:soap:

[vuss383]

+1

Bendix ultimates are crap. There simply is no other way of describing them.

One final thing - every time the topic of brake pads comes up there are invariably some people that say they use Ultimates and they find them good. These people do not drive/brake hard enough to warrant performance brakes. If they did the Ultimates would glaze up and squeal like a stuck pig.

Good luck with your choice.
:soap:

Well Fuk Me Swinging ...... Damn I must be stupid . I have been a fan of the Ultimates for many years & have never had said issues you have explained above . Maybe it's because I dont drive hard ... :rofl: .... if pulling up from speeds in excess of 200 kph time & time again is not driving hard enough I don't know what is .

Maybe , just maybe , you didn't use the Ultimates as they were intended to be used . In saying that I also run them on the street & have never had said problems . Yes they are dusty , but what pad isn't these days since the asbestos has been removed from their formula .

Just my personal take .

Troy

[Jarhead]

Well Fuk Me Swinging ...... Damn I must be stupid . I have been a fan of the Ultimates for many years & have never had said issues you have explained above . Maybe it's because I dont drive hard ... :rofl: .... if pulling up from speeds in excess of 200 kph time & time again is not driving hard enough I don't know what is .

Maybe , just maybe , you didn't use the Ultimates as they were intended to be used . In saying that I also run them on the street & have never had said problems . Yes they are dusty , but what pad isn't these days since the asbestos has been removed from their formula .

Just my personal take .

Troy

Hey Troy,

Not intending to start a brand war. I have no affiliation with any brand mentioned in my post.

I am simply giving my personal experience with these brands of pads. You have used Bendix and are clearly an advocate. I have used them on 2 cars (3 sets in total) and each set has performed the same - shithouse!

To use an analogy, if all you have ever drunk is cask wine then it may be difficult to accept that there may be better wines on the market. It may be difficult to accept that what you have experienced is in fact the very bottom rung of product on the quality ladder. Now plenty of people drink goon-bag and are quite happy with the product. Doesn't mean that there isn't a better product out there.

If you can pull up from 200km/h repeatedly using ultimates then good for you. You never qualified your remark with ever having used another brand so I will assume you haven't. Accept for a moment that if you did then maybe, just maybe, you will find that other brake pads perform much better.

One thing that I didn't mention before that still makes me laugh to this day. The Bendix rep that assessed my car after repeated issues said as we pulled up, " that's how racecars sound when they pull up. If you want performance you need to accept some squeal. Just turn up the radio - that's what I do".:vpo:

For what it's worth, the reason I went Ultimates in the first place was that the car had Bendix pads in it when I bought it. It hadn't been driven in years. Apparently it had the asbestos ones in it and they did perform quite well. Now I'm no expert on what difference this made or when they started removing asbestos from the formula, but the current crop doesn't cut the mustard - sorry.

[Smitty]

+1

Bendix ultimates are crap. There simply is no other way of describing them. The problem is that Bendix is the major supplier to many franchised brake outlets and their marketing is very good - much, much better then their product.
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The Ferodo formula 2500 or even 2000 are significantly better then Ultimates. I had a set of Ultimates on my XY GT and I cringed every time they squealed. The brake shop replaced them for free the first time and the second pair did the same thing. These were with new DBA 5000 rotors so it wasn't a case of new pads on old rotors. The second set were just as bad after a few hundred k's. I had the national sales manager for Bendix personally inspect my car the second time. I got my money back on the pads and labour but I still couldn't tolerate the squeal.

I can't emphasise this enough. Use EBC greens or reds, Ferodo 2000 or 2500. The reds and 2500 are more for semi track/street. They will require some heat in them before they operate at 100% efficiency. Even if the sales guy offers you the Ultimates for FREE, turn him down and buy EBC or Ferodo - the difference really is that big.

One final thing - every time the topic of brake pads comes up there are invariably some people that say they use Ultimates and they find them good. These people do not drive/brake hard enough to warrant performance brakes. If they did the Ultimates would glaze up and squeal like a stuck pig.

Good luck with your choice.
:soap:
+1
absolutely agree....... stay away from Bendix
and I say that having tried several of the Bendix pads (with the Ultimates lasting 5 days
before they were replaced...coz they squealed and groaned and were a black paint can on the wheels :flipoff:)

I used FF2000 on my previous VT SS and VX SS with slotted rotors and they were awesome!
I am using DS2500 on the race car (which do a great job of pulling up the VK)
and I will be going FF when the front pads play up on the SSV (the factory pads with the large
rotors are not too bad seeing i am as i wont be doing track work in the SSV)

[bsbozzy]

I had the Ferodo TS2000's on with slotted rotors, now I have Bendix Ultimates on with normal rotors and cant tell any difference between the 2. The Ferodos and slotetd rotors were installed and bedded in by my mechanic, I did the Bendix.

I get no squeel out of either combo and both leave quite a bit of dust, you should expect that from a performance pad.

[Francis knight0]

I'm just looking at the DS range now, my worry is will they perform poor in cold conditions and not work as good as standard until hot.

[gavlotic]

+1

I have ultimates on my ute - no probs. stops when i want to without an issue. I had nothing but ultimates on my old VS bt1 and I had that for 8years - never disappointed me on that car either.


Well Fuk Me Swinging ...... Damn I must be stupid . I have been a fan of the Ultimates for many years & have never had said issues you have explained above . Maybe it's because I dont drive hard ... :rofl: .... if pulling up from speeds in excess of 200 kph time & time again is not driving hard enough I don't know what is .

Maybe , just maybe , you didn't use the Ultimates as they were intended to be used . In saying that I also run them on the street & have never had said problems . Yes they are dusty , but what pad isn't these days since the asbestos has been removed from their formula .

Just my personal take .

Troy

[Nidz]

Your all trippin'... I use ultimates on slotted rotors and bar upgrading to bigger brake package I don't see any issues with them.. They brake hard like they are sposed to and don't get fade when going down twisties.. They survived the BawBaw cruise no problems.. Yeah they are dusty but I haven't had any problems.

[max350]

I have no experience with the bendix pads but I do run the Ferodo track/street spec pads and over a standard pad they are excellent. Great performance, no noise, and I have very little issue with dust.(wash your car more regular if you are getting black wheels, once a week will do it).

[Stelth]

I'm just looking at the DS range now, my worry is will they perform poor in cold conditions and not work as good as standard until hot.

For legal speeds they work great dead cold !

[Red Beard]

I'm getting some Stealths fitted to the front tomorrow, $160 fitted, $240 if you include machining the discs, which it does need. I'll pass judgment after I've driven on them for a couple of weeks.

The problem is though, I can't compare them to anything recent. I've had the car 2 years and this is the first time I've changed the pads, so I don't know what was on there already, and my previous ride was a Pathfinder, which I had for 4 years (90k), and never had to change the brakes pads at all.

[pmac]

Bendix ultimates are crap. :

couldnt agree more, i had ultimates and the minute i hit the hills and got some heat they were weak, i then got ferodo formula 2000 and for the short time i had with them, i found the preformance to be miles ahead of the ultimates

[vuss383]

I guess as with any product it's a case of each to their own . Looks like there are many commenting here that have had success with both products . I put in my opinion on what I found with the said product & have never gone into what other product I use .

Troy