30K to spend on R8 Clubsport...What would you do........

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People,

The wife has pretty much sighed off on me spending 30K or so on our 2005 HSV R8 Clubsport.

Doesn’t want to turn the home into a 3 car out fit, so stuck with the Clubby.

But I like the VZ style and solid build.

Im in Gippsland ( S E Vic ) and would look at getting the work done in Melbourne.

Will be a daily driver so reliability a must, nothing to highly strung, must run on premium un leaded, realize the drive line may/will need to be replaced or strengthened.
But like all of you lot am a HP junky, bigger the better, and torque is our friend and we need lots of friends.

The old girl is a…………

6 Speed manual.

Stock as a rock.

What would you get done…………..

And importantly by whom……………..

Very serious about this not just pissing into the wind.

Un loaded some property recently so am doing OK and don’t want to hit 65 and say “ shit should have just done it “

Please let us know what you think……………..VB

[bigdogdazza]

Best answer I can come up with is slip the 30k to me and I will let you know what I come up with!
:jester::jester::goodjob:

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Best answer I can come up with is slip the 30k to me and I will let you know what I come up with!
:jester::jester::goodjob:


I will run it past the miss's, but the hoops I had to jump to get the nod, don't hold your breath..........Harrr Harrr...... The miss's has had 20 years in finance,
she love's to turn $1 dollar into 2 I love to turn $1 into nothing.......VB

[Brandonsdad]

You could feed a small country with that much money.

So youve had this car for a few years, Im guessing, its stock as a rock, and out of the blue you want to spend 30 grand on it?

Get it lowered and cam it.

[timy]

hahaha lowered and cam.. love it, maybe he can have my spare OTRCAI too?? i'll hook ya up.. lol.. stroker with an aps tt kit.. would have to be very close to 30 g, prob even a little over lol..

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You could feed a small country with that much money.

So youve had this car for a few years, Im guessing, its stock as a rock, and out of the blue you want to spend 30 grand on it?

Get it lowered and cam it.

VESS60,

Read the introduction, think it answers a few of your questions.

1/ Car is low enough.

2/ I think you could come up with a few better suggestions than a CAM.

[GR346]

Any hints on what sort of car you want, FI, stroker etc????? I can thing of a crap tonne of things to do to a car for 30 large.
I would have to agree with the above suggestion of a nice stroker though :goodjob:

[Brandonsdad]

VESS60,

Read the introduction, think it answers a few of your questions.

1/ Car is low enough.

2/ I think you could come up with a few better suggestions than a CAM.

Hey, it doesnt say that it has been lowered.

Cammed Twin Turbo then. Parachute at the back too.

[bush_basha]

408, 427 stroker, twin or single turbo kit, or even blower, exhaust to suit, upgraded clutch, maybe even gearbox, stronger axles, bigger brakes, tailshaft upgrade, upgrade shifter (rip, billet, harrop, B & M), harrop diff cover, coilovers, the list is endless and anything can add up quick,

[MTC]

Where Chev's in Carrum Downs, What custom exhaust, clutch, harrop supercharger & you will still have plenty of change from that 30k :goodjob:

[JET-33]

30k :shock: :shock: :shock:

:bow:

cya at chevs :yup:

[LSXMAD]

700hp lsx 454 $22,500 to your door. nice street package turn key!

[185iboy]

30k is easier to spend than 2k, can't be too hard to think of something


Nothing too highly strung you say so you'd probably want to avoid a wild stroker with a 240+ cam if it's a daily. From what I've seen anything 350rwkw+ is a definite handful for a daily. If it was a weekender I'd say twin turbo or 427...

If it was me I would think about a good head, cam, otr, exhaust, intake manifold, tb. Factor in clutch, fuel system, harrop trutrac, axles, brakes etc. You'll still have about 10k to play with after that I'd get the guards pumped and some 19x10's out the back.

Hp-f, Autotechnique, Chevs - Heard heaps of good things about these 3

[gts071]

Well without being stupid what do you want or think you want?

FI may be the best option for economy and reliability for daily duties.
So a forged rebuild of your current engine and something like a HTV1900 or HTV2300

Maybe a LS3 or even LS7 and throw some of these babys on or heck even a turbo or 2!

Find a sponsor and talk to them as there are way too many options to list and it all comes down to what you want. Take a car or 2 for a drive N/A vs FI to see if you like one over the other.

[statesy]

LS9!!!!! could be the first

[Scott@VCM]

Well without being stupid what do you want or think you want?

HTV1900 or HTV2300



Good response :)

The 1900 is the go. 2300 would be overkill ;)

I wish my minister of finance would give me 30k to spend on my car! :goodjob:

[132OFT]

+1 for LS9, however I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be the first.

[BR05CK]

Good response :)

The 1900 is the go. 2300 would be overkill ;)

I wish my minister of finance would give me 30k to spend on my car! :goodjob:

+1 for a 1900 and i'd recommend Autotechnique SE of Melb. Just go and have a talk to the boys have a look in the showroom and dynocell. They always have tuff cars in there to look at.

I would go Engine $15k Driveline $5k Rims and brakes $10k
Easy spent:)

[Wonky]

See http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=113996 (last few pages in particular re brakes and blower - plenty of change from $30k and it really goes awesomely and stops just as well), http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=123937 (overkill for you but shows what can be done - he is expecting 500+rwkw), http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=123995 and http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=123269 amongst others. :bow: If you want turbo probably better elsewhere as Chev much prefers blowers.

[XUV]

Get the HTV 1900 blower and a matching exhaust , dyno'd and tuned .

give the mrs 10 grand back , as a good will gesture ( but really to turn into 20 grand )

and you shall have power and harmony .

[2 cylinders shy]

HSV AP 6/4 Piston Kit 7k
+
Rebush, Springs & Koni Shocks, Whiteline Swaybars. 3k
+
Harrop Lsd & Diff cover 2.5k
+
Full Defillipo Exhaust, 1 7/8 4-1 and twin 3"
+
Touch up front bar/bonnet/car park scratches if its getting a bit tired 1K
+
Fuel Sytem Upgrade To cater for 2K
+
A rebuild of your motor and or a Harrop Blower. 12-22K

=:bow::bow::goodjob:

[Gen4 6.2L]

have a look at Katech performance's crate engines.

[SS Enforcer]

Get a 416 stroker built for it then put a Mall wood clutch in it new pipes and your diff rebuilt. A good OTR and a tune and that should see you spend $30k .

The stroker will have excellent drivability especially if you stick with a small to mild cam but produce plenty of power and not be over the top.

Go and have a chat to a few of the Melbourne sponsors and see what they recommend.

cheers

[Evman]

+1 for 1900 and associated upgrades.

I'd go a full difillipo exhaust, suitable clutch (Chev would have a better idea than me), ripshifter, suspension upgrade to whatever tickles your fancy (coil overs are a bit overkill IMO but others can justify them), new wheel/tyre package and that will have plenty left over for anything else Chev recommends/requires along the way.

Did I mention you should go to Chev's?

[pink_bits]

i have a ls3 427 which has just been finished from one of the best builders in the good old USA you can have it for 15,500 to your door its up to you.....
Call me if u like 0430853023
Cheers Simon

[neaty383]

I've been similar path over past 12 months ... my advice to you for 30K is:

- exhaust/headers
- heads and cam (22x range)
- harrop 2300 blower

Use left over on clutch, maybe k-frame and tarting the engine bay up.

Will get you high 300rwkw's (close to 400 anyway).

My advice, take it to HPF and get them to do it all.

I've dropped about double that in the past 12 months and most of my work has been at HPF and I trust them and they do a good job - and I keep going back to them now for everything.

[jonesy_87_]

Full exhaust
OTR
Tune
Cam/Heads
Clutch
Ripshift
Coilovers
(Maybe supercharger/stroked option?)

[macca33]

I'd choose a nice FI friendly camshaft, BIG exhaust with 1.7/8" primary pipes into hi-flow metal substrate cat converters then twin 3" cat-back.

Fit a Harrop 1900 supercharger.

Obtain a nice set of BIG brakes.

Good clutch and RipShift.

ENJOY the car immensely.

Be well under your 30k limit, with a super-strong and tough street package.

As mentioned - any of the sponsor workshops in / around the Dandenong hub are great. I've had positive personal experience with Chev's and Horsepower Factory. Both mobs provide dependable and trustworthy service.

cheers

[BLACKVE]

How many km's the car done???????? If it's a daily a few i'd guess.


LS3 crate motor, twin turbo kit and fuel/clutch upgrades. Will drive like a stocky for the wife and no attention from the FUZZ

[Duck73]

Ive had 3 forum sponsors do work on my cars and i wouldn't go any further than The Horse Power Factory , they have great service , knowledge and are the best to deal with.

They sorted all my car problems out with ease and no fuss.

Talk to Matt or Rob and they will lead you in the right direction.



Cheers Duck...

[Nosreme]

Cammed supercharged:)

[Gen4 6.2L]

I think it costs around 30k the Street attack 500 from katech, it's a 500ci 600hp N/A crate engine fully emissions legal with a billet block.

http://v8tvshow.com/images/stories/HPPImages/Street_Attack_500.jpg

[Rub]

or check out

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/gascrate.php

http://www.mastmotorsports.com/images08/index/top.jpg

[Swordie]

I’d go the 3rd car if that’s what you really want. The Monaro would be my choice, use this as your base.

[duke5700]

Well I have spent a little more than the 30K you want to but I certainly have done some things twice as the first product didnt quite live up to my expectations...

But if It was me and I was starting with a fresh canvas...

1) The brakes on the car will be quite ok being an R8, however I would invest braided brake lines throughout and AP600 fluid. I think the HSV pad material is quite close to Ferodo D2500 pad which is quite good for the street. If you want a little more than something like the DS3000 series style pad material but it will need to be warmed up before its effective. So really race track use only.

2) Diff - Harrop Tru-Track, Billet stub axles, CV's and outer hubs + a 1 piece carbon fibre tailshaft. $6K Aus or there abouts.

3) Gearbag - leave it stock but fill it with mainlube and fit a shifter of some kind. I have a ripshifter and its fine. Billet is another option but I have never driven one. $700

4) Clutch - this will depend on power - I have only driven Tex cars so can't comment on Malwood or the like. I have a Tex Tripple plate - Price I can't remember $2500 maybe

So far you have spent a little over 10K on parts without fitting for a pretty stout driveline.

20K left for engine and fuel system. It really isn't enough to go crazy but it will give a nice package.

Despite what alot of people carry on about adding forced induction etc etc will reduce the life of the engine, double the power half the life expectancy. If it last longer than that your doing well. Forged engines take time to warm up in the morning. Due the style of metal used to build a forged engine the metals expand at different rates. So piston move around in the bores a little. You have to wait till the metals are up to temp. It can be painful for some driving the car as a daily.

20K including fitting leaves you kinda in no mans land, It would build a stout n/a motor but not build you a forged 8 with some kind of forced induction. You could bolt on a ASE turbo kit and normal boost levels have a fairly long living and powerful engine but if the bug bites you will be looking for more and not have the engine capable of it.

In your situation I would get an ASE-TT 750 kit and, one of their twin walbro surge tanks, with a intank walbro as lift pump, dual factory feed lines and a return with a fuel reg of some sort, also fuel rails and injectors - $13500 or there abouts.

If your going to put it round a race track at any time, one of their power steering and engine oil coolers as well. $1500

Dual 3" exhaust plus cats.

Use the rest to get it put in and tuned and it would be a fine machine.

See you at the 50K mark once the bug has bit and you have a dedicated 408 stroker and turbos to match...

EDIT: Don't forget suspension from 3K to 8 or 9K for a GTP spec system. It just doesnt end does it?

[Hoangkar]

im pretty sure i would go the LSX 454 alway can bore out to 511ci
+1 on the LSX 454

[feistl]

duke5700 speaks much sense.

Everyone here saying go for turbo 454ci engines etc... thats not really a great idea. It will make an awesome dyno monster, but not really good for the street. Fuel usage would be insane as well...

To the OP, im currently upgrading my VX and am in the process of doing the following...

Harrop Trutrac + Sports Cover + 3.91:1 gears + CV + Tailshaft + Mainlube oil
T56 MM12 + Twin Plate Clutch + Mainlube oil
6 Pot PBR -M Series Brakes, DS2500 Pads, Braided Lines + Race Fluid
4 into 1 Pacemaker Extractors + 4.5" Racing Cats + twin 2.5" Stainless Steel Exhaust System
RE55 Semi Slicks (or similar, havnt purchased yet)
PWR Alloy race radiator + Engine Oil Cooler
Power Steering Cooler
Tein Coil over suspension

As for the engine, Well when i purchased the car was/is running a 383 Stroked LS1 (Forged Internals), Cam, Exhaust, MAFless tune, OTRCAI etc etc

Its making around 330rwkw. Its not a 10 second car, and the power isnt "insane" but it will/is very streetable, and should be bulletproof. Making 400-500rwkw is easy enough (to actually make the power), but doing it reliably and putting the power down is a different story.

I also think that much power is harder to control on a circuit etc... So a well balanced car is a better idea IMO. Plus a 500rwkw car with stock driveline/brakes will be slower on a circuit than a 300rwkw track built car.

Add to that a few interior upgrades, perhaps cosmetic (I spent $1300 at final inspection on a full car detail) and you'll have one awesome ride.

Just my opinion though... I prefer a "fun" car to drive, not a dyno braging engine with wheels...

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To all who have replied to my post " Thank you all very much ".

The amount of information supplied by you all is very much appreciated and taken on board.

I have already spoken to several of the forum sponsors and there desire and professional manner is excellent.........Not a grunt or a " Yerr mate " or " Na mate " to be found, all very helpful and forth coming with suggestions and information.

Its a bit of an even race between the N/A and Blower camps.

Not much on the Turbo charging front.

I must admit that the old school in me dose lean towards the stroker option, but after discussions with the Professionals it appears that forced induction offers the best bang for your buck !!!!!

Decisions, decisions.

Once again thank you all for your time and effort......Please keep the information coming.......... VB

[XUV]

Its a bit of an even race between the N/A and Blower camps.


also depends what you want people to say when you open the bonnet .

[UTESRULE]

did the shops say no on the turbo option or was it ur option on it